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Bill Clinton Says Portland Pundits Are Wrong About Rural Oregon
April 26, 2008 3:21 PM
ABC News' Sarah Amos reports: President Bill Clinton is excited to be courting rural votes across the state of Oregon today, even if the Portland pundits don’t think it will make a difference in the Oregon primary.
Beginning his day in Junction City, Ore. -- a small community just outside of Eugene -- the former president told the crowd how he had read an article this morning saying that Clinton's visit to rural areas wouldn't pay off in Oregon the way it had in other states like Pennsylvania.
"When Hillary's campaign announced that I was going to be speaking all over Oregon and in small towns and rural areas, I heard that some of the pundits in Portland thought I was nuts," he said. "And there's an article, I just read an article in the Associated Press that quotes a Reed College political science professor who says that my coming to see you won't work.
"Now listen," Clinton told a booing crowd. "He said that Hillary's decision to reach out to rural Oregon was -- quote –- 'old politics.'"
The article seemed to both amuse and irk Clinton, who has become the campaign's surrogate for rural America in the past few months.
The AP article Clinton read quoted Reed College political science professor Paul Gronke, who said that he didn't think the small towns strategy employed by the Clinton campaign in states like Pennsylvania and Ohio would work in Oregon because of the differences in demographics and history.
"The old politics sells well in Pennsylvania, because it's an old state," Gronke told the AP, classifying Oregon as a much younger state in terms of history and population.
Clinton clearly took offense to the quote. But he also saw it as an opportunity, using the statement to rally the crowd around the idea that "old politics" meant ignoring rural America -- something he said Hillary Clinton would never do as president.
"Now, Reed College is a great place," Clinton said. "I hope I get to visit there and tell them why they oughta vote for Hillary. But I think that it really matters what happens in rural America. It matters what happens in rural Oregon. And Hillary has offered to do two debates in Oregon -- one completely devoted to rural issues, and I'll explain why in a minute. But I think this is an important issue. Thirty three of your 36 counties are officially classified as rural. If that is old politics, who are we leaving behind in America? That's part of the problem, we've got a government now that's left too many people behind.
"We need to go forward together," Clinton told a cheering crowd. "I think that pretending people in small towns in rural America don't matter is old politics. And I think there's a more important point I'd like to make. This rural/urban/suburban divide in America is bad for our country. It's bad for our country. All these phony divides are bad for our country."
Clinton devoted a good portion of his speech to rural issues affecting Oregon, but also spoke to the crowd about the usual Hillary Clinton talking points, including health care and veteran's rights. Yet as he wrapped up his speech nearly an hour later, he found himself right back where he started -- talking about that same professor from Reed College.
"You can tell that nice fella up at Reed College that you don't resent him for having a nice job and a wonderful school," Clinton said, "but you think we can go forward together. And you know just as much and care just as much about a bright, clean-energy, wholesome future as he does. Let's do this together with Hillary's leadership."
April 26, 2008 in Bush, George W. | Permalink | User Comments (54)
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Or doesn't matter it will be over with by then.
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | Apr 26, 2008 3:31:11 PM
I don't see anything wrong with what Bill Clinton said here. Sounds like the truth to me. A lot of people who live outside the big cities (which is where Obama is drawing most of his support) resent being tossed aside by Obama and his campaign. He can play all of the basketball he wants; if he gets elected, rural Americans, as well as anyone over 50, had better not count on him for anything.
Posted by: dwc | Apr 26, 2008 3:53:28 PM
Classic deceptive Clinton Spin, twisting someone else's words against them. The Reed professor said that Clinton campaigning in rural Oregon would not work like it did campaigning in rural PN, because the state is younger with a different demographic than PN. The Reed proffesor never said that "rural America doesn't matter" as El Clinton twists and lies about it. This is a type of devious lie that only politicians and lawyers see fit to use and abuse, and of course they know better. No ethics whatsoever! The press, as usual doesn't correct him or call him on it, because they risk getting yelled at or belittled by both Clintons. What doesn't matter now is the Clintons- except the damage that they are doing to the democratic party.
Posted by: rco | Apr 26, 2008 3:56:49 PM
Its curious how the Obama cmap has managed to paint Clinton as a racist. He's jsut playing tough politics. He appointed more blacks to the federal bench than all previous presidents _combined_.
Posted by: Raj | Apr 26, 2008 3:58:47 PM
Debate Moderator: "Senator Clinton, do you think Senator Obama can win the National Election this fall against Senator McCain?"
Hillary Clinton: "Yes!,Yes!!,Yes!!!"
Posted by: rco | Apr 26, 2008 4:12:07 PM
The reason they were 'booing' at the beginning wasnt againt Bill Clinton, it was against this notion that Hillary cant win rural Oregon, and they dont matter.
The article CONVIENTLY forgets to mention they were booing the ridiuclous notion -not Clinton.
Posted by: tomdavie | Apr 26, 2008 4:15:59 PM
Does anyone really believe that Bill and Hillary Clinton with $109 million are just average US citizens? Does anyone really believe that Bill who gets up to $400,000 per speaking engagement really thinks the small American matters?
Does anyone really NOT believe that the Clintons are driven by money, greed and power only?
Posted by: Just the Facts | Apr 26, 2008 4:18:59 PM
This is a harbinger...of things to come... (Clyburn's accusations vs clinton.)
If the Obama camp can play the race card this deftly during the primaries, imagine what they'll do in an Obama administration. All tough questions for the president will be termed "demonizations" or "distractions".
Wake up America. Vote for the strongest candidate who can stop this fanatic goose-stepping. That would be voting for a white guy, not because you should vote against blacks or women, but because its FAR more important to America that the people can HARSHLY criticize their leaders non-stop, DAY and NIGHT. Just like its being done to W and cheney.
Its more important to maintain this freedom than to look for an affirmative action candidate. Electing either will NOT alleviate or even address the structural prejudices against both groups.
Posted by: paul revere ;) | Apr 26, 2008 4:25:17 PM
Too many people still making excuses for Obama's loss in Pennsylvania.
History Fact 1: Oregon in its infancy banned ALL blacks from settling in Oregon. Oregon became the FIRST U.S. state to exclude African Americans other than by ordinary statutory law. In a special election, Oregonians approved the proposed state constitution in which they EXCLUDED free blacks and mulattos by an 8 to 1 margin. Oregon also banned slavery in their state constitution... but that was no altruistic gesture... They just wanted NO blacks in Oregon.
History Fact 2: One black war hero came with his family over the Oregon Trail (1844) and ended up being one of Washington State's first settlers and the FIRST black settler because he was not allowed to own land in Oregon. Ironically... the man's name was George Washington Bush (1779-1863).
Posted by: Nickberry | Apr 26, 2008 4:28:17 PM
You are right, Nickberry! We've certainly come a long way as a more tolerant nation over the years. I'm proud to be an American- we continue to grow and accept everyone regardless of their race or gender- it is a privilege to watch this democratic primary race play out like it has.
Obama '08
Posted by: rco | Apr 26, 2008 4:34:02 PM
Thinking,
Dream on have you seen the polls lately. Clinton is now tied with Obama nationally and is ahead of McCain in most head to head polls. Obama is now behind McCain. If you look at the all important swing states like PA Clinton is up by a significant margin while Obama is down by a significant margin especially in OH, PA, and FL.
Oh right I forgot the people of FL don't matter. Well they do if we want to elect a democrat in November.
Clinton will win IN and will come close in NC, and then Obama will get stomped on in WV, and KY. Leaving Clinton still ahead in the popular vote. If FL is then seated which looks like the DNC will address very soon. They will be very close in delegate count and she will be ahead in popular vote. I heard from someone inside the Clinton camp that she has raised an unprecedented amount of money since Tuesdays win.
GO Hillary 08
Posted by: Michael | Apr 26, 2008 4:40:17 PM
Will you send this big mouth back to where he came from,Who the hell is running for President anyway?????????
Just the facts right n the nail head.....You who switched should made to stay in that party until after the election Nit wits like you keep this thing going.You could care less for Hilly......
Posted by: h | Apr 26, 2008 5:04:57 PM
"Rural" Oregon is a diverse landscape and it is a demographic that differs significantly from "rural" Pennsylvania, Ohio or Arkansas where Clinton has found a base of support.
NAFTA hasn't cost us jobs; lumber mill closures began under Reagan and continued through the Clinton years; the population of our rural counties is growing; we are younger and better educated.
Posted by: TheNumantine | Apr 26, 2008 5:06:30 PM
Obama is pursuing the American nightmare...
Get out of our proud nation!!!
Posted by: roxi | Apr 26, 2008 5:07:10 PM
The reason he won't do well in OR is that it is one of the most educated states in the country and as all polls show, that is not a group Hillary does well with. Only those who can't seem to fully understand what those 2 are about vote for her. Not my take on it but the polls don't lie.
Posted by: Brian | Apr 26, 2008 5:07:45 PM
It is too bad the media and so many "liberal" democrats were so smitten with the Obama Hysteria for so long. He is arrogant run of the mill little if any substance and a big chip on his shoulder(which is odd given his privileged life)nothing. Hillary will win but it has been a long haul.
Posted by: Rick | Apr 26, 2008 5:07:46 PM
Frankly, Obama is not QUALIfied to
be more than a legal assistant.
Posted by: frank | Apr 26, 2008 5:08:31 PM
Bill Clinton, power-crazed prevaricator extraordinaire.
Don't listen to a word the guy says, he's selling a lie every time he opens his sleazy mouth.
Posted by: mg | Apr 26, 2008 5:10:17 PM
If Florida is not reinstated as is, then the Democrats can kiss goodby to their dream of winning the next elections in November. 'Cause contrary to what the elite think, it is still a people's election and democracy must be recognized in all free states. The people of Florida have spoken so let their voices be heard.
Posted by: Paulus | Apr 26, 2008 5:14:12 PM
Tor----what ignorance. Shame on you! Spinning things must be your day job.
People take a day off, it's anyone's right! They did debate over 20 times! The positions on the issues are the same! You can debate yourself to death and he still will be the better choice and the next president. How dare you scoled him on taking a day off!!
Posted by: Andrea | Apr 26, 2008 5:17:31 PM
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