bill she lost more than half her lead. She went very negative, including using a guy who used to work for you and a guy who wanted to work for you as moderators of a debate. She used Rev. wright, bitter and race as reasons not to vote for Obama, none of which have anything to do with the issues. She came out for the war in Iraq, preemptive strikes in Iran, and no solution to social security, economy or education. She lied about Bosnia, taxes and experience in the White House. her time on your coattails needs to be over. and just when was the last time she fired a gun or went to church?

Better cover your rear end in NC Obamabots. If he loses there heis finished. kaput.

Better cover your rear end in NC Obamabots. If he loses there heis finished. kaput.

Sure she did -- and I've got a bridge to sell you!

And, Geevil, YOU WISH!!!

Obama 2008 -- Yes, WE CAN!!!

For goodness sakes, the Clinton campaign ran a sleazy and a dishonest campaign, including push polling. Who still believes anything they have to say?

I do believe Hillary could solve most of our problems and that is why I will vote for her.I think this thing with Wright is justy putting it out there to det it out of the way before the GE good acting on both OBama and Wright's and MSM. But it still won't go away .Obama the arrogant is a better title for him.

Positive? Well now we know what Bill considers positive.

Then he goes and panders with a couple short term fixes for energy crisis. Same old, same old. We have been playing this game since the 70's. Oil just keeps going up and up. By the way how much is this oil going up because of the falling dollar, that is directly tide to the deficit? Explain to me how lower taxes is going to balance our budget?

bill anb your wife the most lier people i never see in my life time

Billy----- she does not even know how to spell POSITIVE near mind practice it.You and she make a good pair .Both are liars,don't know right from wrong and will do and say anythiing to get back your power.You are sicken......

I believed in Bill, and I believe in Hil! He did a great job running this country with his head and his heart, and Senator Clinton will do the same.
Noone is perfect, not you, not me, not the Clintons, but she is suited to run the country, despite her imperfections. What matters is that she wants to make the country a better place! I would love to have a debate in 8and a half years about whether she was a better president than her husband...

wow what cloud is he on she wasnt negative...please once again lets pass the buck again,
i hope she loses big the Governor had it sort of right she is powerful..cause that is all she can think about is the POWER.
OBAMA 08

EXCESS PROFIT FEE???
WELL GUESS THE PRICE OF GAS WILL GO UP AGAIN. THE GAS COMPANIES WILL ALWAYS PASS THE FEES ONTO THE CONSUMER.
THEY WILL NOT GIVE UP ON PROFITS.

C'mon Bill KEEP "speaking your mind" out in public. You do a GREAT favor for Obama, EVERY time you open your mouth. If you really wanted Hilliary to win you would STFU!!! Obama has learned his lession and gagged Wright; What's Hilliary's excuse for not gagging you!?!

Hillary 08 ...

It is nice to see Bill supporting Hillary.

Hillary has a lot to offer. Obama has not offered anything. Substance!

Exit polls in PA placed the blame 66% on Hillary and 50% on Obama for the negative campaign. Now Bills advisors are counseling the campaign, and Bill as chief advisor is telling Hill to hit harder, sharper, sooner, and meaner. Bill is so yesterday ....

If Wright had not been affecting Obama's poll numbers then he would stayed quite about his recent comments. The reality is that the internal polls showed Obama melting faster than snow in Miami! This thing started on Friday and it took them till today to see the effect it was having and now they are trying to stop the bleeding! Well it is too little too late and Hillary will keep it close in NC and win in IN. By the end of this process she will have the popular vote and the superdelegates will come over to her because they know she can beat McCain, that gives her the edge!

Rise Hillary Rise!!!!

Hillary won in PA, and she'll win again in Indiana. She may even win NC, after the staged Wright speech at the National Press Club, and the carefully scripted Obama denouncement repeat (courtesy of Axelrod).

Great strategy to win over blue-collar white voters, Axelrod. Too bad it backfired.

RISE HILLARY, RISE!!

Warren5678 - get a life and stop being coy. This is a real world and a real electiona and you want to write fairy tales that are about nonsense. I think the Disney site is at another URL>>>>

Sad how Bill Clinton has completely destroyed his legacy. Soon he'll be known primarily as the guy who tried to sabotage President Obama's campaign.

Emily and Russell, I'm sorry byt somehow the script that they gave you from Hillary's campaign and the list of articles to comment on accordingly have over lapped. Your affiliation with therir campaign is showing. Oh well!

In terms of the idea that Bill Clinton is putting out there, its reflects views I expressed before. These are ClintRovian tactics. Do these things yourself and have the gall to point your finger at the other guy and say he is doing it. You force people into cognitive disonance. They either have to believe you or reject you completely. If you are a former President or in the case of Rove and Bush, you are the President, you can cause people to doubt themselves and their own senses. I don't think this is going to work much longer. Especially not at the levels that it is being used. Its every conversation and discourse now. What? We don't do that only the ugly other side does. We are nice people!

I still believe the truth is that Obama was born to lead America at this time. The important question is - will America take up this generous and much needed opportunity?

The way for Democrats to win in November is to harness the dramatic movement for change that Obama is leading and that is critical to America's future. Many now can see that this is a movement by the grass roots, not just a bunch of words from Obama as some would have you believe. If Clinton got on the bus instead of throwing herself in front of it, all the more powerful. She will not do this until she understands that playing the race card (make no mistake who has played this card) will not be enough.

Hillary's way to the nomination even with leverage on the party establishment is predicated on character assassination. Obama's character is good and she can't dredge up any real issues- Wright and Rezko and a slip of the tongue about guns and religion that is based in truth are not real character issues. So she has, in addition to playing the race card and the patriotism card, initiated and perpetrated all this chatter about guilt by association. She is trying to find or rather create as many such things as she can, however obtuse, and thread them together and say it makes a pattern. Now this has given license to the fools, the bigots and those afraid of change as well as the Republicans.

America will get what it deserves out of this election - if its garbage in then its garbage out. America deserves better, and if it truly sees the reality of the situation, it will elect Obama. If it does not, it will get one of the other available status quo options.

I invite, Americans to look at the prospects for America and Americans as a whole nation.

I couldn't agree more with "geevill".
The obama supporters will go nuts if Hillary wins in N.Carolina.Now that she's got the backing of their governor,hopefully she can pull off wins in N.Carolina and Indiana.I heard some of the superdelegates on some of the morning,political news shows this past Sunday saying that Indiana would be the tie-breaker.So,even if she just wins Indiana next week,then goes on to win W.Virginia,my home state of Kentucky,Oregon and Puerto Rico,the super delegates will have to see that she is the stronger candidate.Even an MSNBC news anchor said she was the stronger candidate and we all know that MSNBC is in the tank for Obama.I agree with "Ken in Texas" that Bill Clinton was a good president and I believe Hillary will be even better.I am looking forward to that debate in 8 years!!!Obama can only blame Rev.Wright if he loses the nomination,that man is no friend of Obama's.He was only trying to make things worses for Obama by speaking at the press club on Sunday.It was a good thing for Obama to completely denounce Rev.Wright and his comments today,I just think he should have cut all ties with that man sooner.

Obama has done nothing than prove that he too is the status quo. Even his spiritual mentor of 20 years has expressed this sentiment. He has based his campaign on hope, change and judgment which has been squandered in the past month. This is his election to lose now. We'll see how it rolls in the remaining primaries.

Bill, you're a fabulous speaker, and Hillary is a terrific fighter. Obama's campaign chief, Axelrod on the other hand, likes to think he has strategic acumen.

THE WRIGHT STRATEGY


The plan hatched by David Axelrod unfolds...

Axelrod: I just talked to Jeremiah, and he’s prepped and ready for the National Press club speech.

Obama: Good.

Axelrod: Okay, we need the blue-collar white vote, so you need to denounce Wright again, and that'll take care of the white vote.

Obama: What about my strong hold on the black vote? How do we keep them satisfied?

Axelrod: Don’t worry! African American’s will believe what Rev. Wright’s gonna say about you only distancing yourself for political purposes. That'll appease all of them in North Carolina and Indiana.

Obama: Cool, then we're all set. Hey, what was that cabinet post Jeremiah said he wanted after I’m elected?

Can't win 'em all Axelrod.

Rise Hillary, Rise!

Bill, why did 70% of the Pennsylvania voters say Hillary attacked unfairly.

Hillary is now the front runner, so it's time for the media to review her last 6 weeks of campaigning. They need to point out all the lies and flip flopping they are doing.

The media should also question why Hillary can't stand on her own merits. She has Bill run around playing the good/bad cop every other day?

Since Bill is getting more media coverage than Hillary, maybe the debates should be between Bill and Barack.

mceversole -- I agree with most of your last statement, but don't think Hillary will win Oregon. The rural areas are probably too sparse to overcome the numbers in the urban areas. However, I did see that the Register Guard (Eugene) was calling for Obama to engage in a debate. If he can't appease one of the most liberal papers in the state, that could be a sign of defection from his candidacy.

Dan -- By what standards are you making Clinton the frontrunner in this race? As most Obama supporters like to point out, he is ahead in pledged delegates, states won and popular vote (excluding MI and FL). That sounds like the definition of frontrunner.

"Obama's character is good and she can't dredge up any real issues- Wright and Rezko and a slip of the tongue about guns and religion that is based in truth are not real character issues. "

C'mon, Paul. How many times can two men have so called slips of the tongue before you realize that they have no character?

Rise Hillary, Rise!

Rise, Hillary, rise? Sounds very stupid.

Hillary will win based on people's belief that she is the best equipped and uniquely qualified to tackle our nation's critical issues from health care, the economy, education, the Iraq war, etc. She is ready to deliver solutions for our nation. She is the one to win the General Election this fall against McCain.

Clinton/Edwards 2008!!!

Hillary has been positive especially during the last few days when Rev Wright was speaking up... I think that Hiollary just tells it like it is and Obama thought he had it and didnt have do say anything himself but let his surrogates be underhanded to the max

"Rise, Hillary, rise? Sounds very stupid."

That's the same way the Obama camp feels about "change we can believe in" now.

Like I predicted. It seems like the only thing that has remained consistent in all this is ............JERIMIAH WRIGHT.

He has said the same things all along. He has not wavered one bit.

Its OBAMA who has given 4 different versions of how he feels about it, and believe me, every version that contradicts each other will be used against him.

Now, and even more so if he is ever stupidly the nominee.

By the way. I forgot to mention. If Obama becomes the nominee, it will be the first time in HISTORY they handed the nomination over to the guy who LOST every major primary.

Its Hillary who should feel cheated here.

LOM
You said it right! I think Edwards will seal the deal

Yea Obama has contradicted himself with todays speech and the speech he gave on race

tomdavie: Obama is ahead, Clinton is behind. In your fantasy world she is ahead.

LOM: No, your wrong on that point.

If Obama wins the nomination, then he wins it. The rules are the rules and that will be what is dealt. The downside to this outcome, however, is that he is simply unelectable and John McCain will be our next President. I suspect there are a fair number of superdelegates that know this otherwise, the floodgates would have opened by now. What happened to the 50 SDs that were ready to pledge their support after Ohio and Texas? Obama is having a difficulty garnering the support of white blue collar workers which is an obvious important voting bloc in the GE. So, if the SDs really want a viable chance this fall to take back the White House, they will need to back Clinton, which they can do because the rules are the rules.

tom -- That was such a compelling argument. You're right, I was wrong by design. I was making a point that you were wrong. Can you tell me from where the term "Rise, Hillary Rise" was coined? Or do you like making stupid statements to "prove" your point?

LOM: How is Obama unelectable when he is beating Mccain in the polls int he following swing states and red states: Indiana, Colorado, New-Mexico, Nevada, Virginia, Iowa, Georgia, Missouri, and Oregon. Looks like he is electable...

Emily - a slip of the tongue is not a character issue. Have you never made a comment where you phrased things inappropriately? I suppose Hillary is the only one who does not make such mistakes? What about Bosnia? I won't go on.... You know the rest....

ahead for now Tom but not in a few days shes already leading nationally and its down to 10 pts in NC and shes up 3 in IN its over face it

stanium: down to just ten in NC. Like ten isn't a lot. He's going to win NC, OR, SD, MT, and eiher tie or win in Indiana. The math is still against her.

Tom

Wrong again

Hillary today is leading Mccain nationally by 9 and Obama is withing the margin of error and Obama will not tie In but Hillary may tie NC which will split the delegates... its over :)

@ LOM:

The phrase, Rise Hillary, Rise was coined by Maya Angelou from a beautiful poem she wrote for Hillary entitled, Still I Rise.

its laughable to still brign up the bosnia thing like Obama hasnt been lying even about the existence of Wright and ayers etc

stanium: Polls reflect what is happening this week, and this week only...NOT THE FALL. Even if CLinton wins IN and ties in NC she won't get more than 10 extra delegates. That still leaves her 120-125 delegates BEHIND OBAMA. You need a reality check.

Apparently Obamabots dont know of such poet laureats that reside at Wake Forest University :)

Tom

No she netted 10 with a 9 pt win in PA it will be more than that because NC has 170 delegates at least get your facts straight Obama is history

stanium: Wrong again.. Pennsylvania had 158 delegates, NC has 115 delegates..seems to me like your making up facts on the spot. Go research your lies before you post them.

Tom -- You must take us all for idiots. What "polls" are you using? I did a quick look at pollster at the most recent polling work done. I didn't see any information on Geogia, but in all but one state you listed, McCain is beating Obama. In Colorado, the only state that Obama was "ahead" in the polls, the data showed it was actually a statistical tie, so your above assertion is pretty much a flat out lie.

BTW, Oregon is NOT a swing state. It has voted "D" in the last 5 presidential elections.

State | Survey | Date | McCain | Obama
Indiana | Research 2000 | 4/24 | 51 | 43
Colorado | Rasmussen | 4/16 | 43 | 46
New Mexico | SurveyUSA | 4/13 | 50 | 44
Nevada | Rasmussen | 4/21 | 49 | 43
Virginia | SurveyUSA | 4/13 | 52 | 44
Iowa | Research 2000 | 4/23 | 41 | 49
Missouri | SurveyUSA | 4/13 | 50 | 42

You do know there is this thing called the internet where we can call bull$hit on your lies, don't you?

@ Paul,

Not to belabor a point, but you can't be serious. The tongue slips you attribute to both Obama and Wright are incalculable. So many slips, in fact, that the only explanation is Tourette's.

Emily -- I KNOW that! I was challenging "tom" on his stupid posting.

Funny, isn't Oprah Winfrey's greatest hero Maya Angelou? I haven't heard from her since she was stumping for Obama in California right before Super Tuesday. Hmmmm...buyer's remorse?

LOM: You made a mistake...in your facts Obama is ahead in Iowa. I don't know where tom got his information, but I saw a poll in Indiana last week that showed Obama 49% Mccain 41%.

Dem super delegates wont be foolish enough to vote for DOA candidate, especially with hillary winning the popular vote.

ultra liberal democrats don't care
about all of baracks baggage:

-James Wright's "god damn America" sermon,
-Antoine' Rezco, jailed political fixer, baracks first huge donor

-domestic terrorists Ayers and Dorhn
these guys blew up 25 bombs in the US
-bitter small town Americans, clinging to religion - like a pacifier
-HAMAS in the church bulletin
-he admitted smoking crack / cocaine
-
but mainstreet democrats do care:

see PA OH (hillary clobbered obama)

and if the media exposed the real barack earlier, he would never have won the early states he did...

for 16 months hillary got hammered and obama got a free ride... after some of his skeletons are out of the closet he gets clubbed like a baby seal in PA and OH...

obama smells like mcgovern and dukakis and gore and kerry..

the republican swiftboat machine has baracks number.

kate -- you're right. Obama is ahead in Iowa. I had the numbers, but did miss that in my analysis. Thanks for the catch.

@ LOM: My apologies! I didn't realize you knew.

As for Oprah, yes, it's a giant case of buyer's remorse. I suspect the same for many of his early supporters.

Tom
every delegate in every state is not considered equal there maybe just 115 in NC but that doesnt change it for Obama he is gone dont try to rationalize it :) and your polls are stupid btw

Idiot-

Did you say Sen. Obama smoked crack?

More lies from the people who
perfected lying, the Clintons!
Hillary was Never an Underdog in
Pennsylvania!
In fact she had a 20 point lead at one
time and only won by 9 percent of the
vote!
Yeah she was real positive in PA,
especially in the debate when she allowed her lapdog, Stephanopoulus to
bring up the negative stuff about
Rev Wright and Bill Ayers!
Get Real!
Obama will win the nomination and Hillary and Bill can go home and play
Family Feud!

TOm

and anyway those are 4/24 polls I do beleive the date is now 4/30

stanium: Different organizations take different polls. Kate saw the same poll in Indiana that I saw...Obama will rap this up by winning NC, OR, MT, and SD. Clinton can take Indiana. It won't change things. In fact, Obama can just win Oregon and North Caorlina, and still be ahead by over 100 delegates...your logic is failing once again.

In the landmark civil fraud case against Bill Clinton in Los Angeles, where the former President is charged with defrauding a Hollywood dot com millionaire to help Hillary Clinton obtain more than $1.2 million from him for her 2000 Senate campaign, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Aurelio Munoz ruled on Friday, April 25 that Hillary Clinton would not be required to testify in a sworn deposition as a material witness in the case until AFTER the November election!

While Bill Clinton, Chelsea Clinton, Al Gore, Ed Rendell, Barbara Streisand, Cher, Stan Lee, Brad Pitt, Mike Wallace, Larry King et al may be called to testify and be deposed starting in May, Hillary alone has been protected from explaining her role in her husband’s fraud charges.

In an astonishing ruling by the Judge, Hillary Clinton may NOT be deposed about her role in the illegal solicitation and cover up of the largest contribution made to her Senate campaign until after the presidential election.

This is the same contribution Hillary denied knowing about or receiving when Lloyd Grove of the Washington Post asked her specifically about it and her relationship with the donor, Peter Paul, in August 2000.

Equally surprising as the ruling was the judge’s request to Hillary defense lawyer David Kendall to “say hello to his ( Judge Munoz”) friend Bill, also a partner in Kendall’s law firm

Reaganfan

No nomination for Obama now I can pretty much guarantee it he might have to make a deal with Hill now though:)

no crack in the whitehouse... sorry obama.

nope you are wrogn TOm get used to NO hope :) hes at best even with Clinton now that is a fact

tom -- will being ahead by just 100 delegates clinch the nomination for Obama? Why don't you explain for us how our logic works then?

stanium: Where's your proof?

russell said,
"Rise Hillary Rise".
What is she going to do ride on her
Broomstick?

Regarding oil prices, the Gore followers WANT the oil prices to stay high because they want all of us to stop driving our cars. Period. So releasing the reserves, or punishing the oil companies in an effort to get them to lower gas prices are not policies that will be followed by the green movement which actually will include all the candidates. As far as the republican swiftboat machine derailing Barack, he doesn't need their help because he is doing a fine job all by himself by the company he choses to mingle with.

why should I need proof if you dont use any in your logic

I think that Governor Easley made the correct decision in endorsing Senator Clinton. As a citizen of NC I can say that Governor Easley has done a fine job during his eight years of service. I bet that MANY people in states that held earlier primaries wish they knew then what they know now...that Senator Obama is not quite ready to lead this great country. Early on I could have supported Obama if he indeed became the nominee. However, as the months have passed, that feeling has changed dramatically. I bet many who voted for him in the earlier campaigns, now are suffering from "buyer's remorse". Obama is showing that he is not quite ready to be a presidential candidate, and I REALLY blame the press and media for giving him too many free passes. All of these concerns should have been aired much earlier. While I read a few criticisms early on about Senator Obama, it seems most everyone was giddy with praise for him and not interested in thoroughly "vetting" him. Senator Clinton could be an excellent President right now, and with some time Senator Obama could possibly be as well, but he needs some more time to develop and to explain why he continued associations with people/organizations who espoused such disturbing positions.

LOM: Being ahead by 100 delegates will clinch the nomiantion because if the superdelegates overturn the will of the voters in smoke-filled back rooms, not only will young voters, and new voters stay home, but a lot of Dems. will leave the party and all chaos will break loose. The Democratic leaders want to win in the fall, and I know that Gore and Pelosi are for Obama. They won't allow Clinton to steal the nomination. All those record turnouts of Democrats will end up being distant memories.

Coming from the right side looking for a breath of fresh air (and some honesty) from the left, I can't tell you how disappointed I've been. Not only the lies Bill AND Hillary throw out there every day but also the lies from their supporters (news is bias towards Obama...come on!). The Dems like to say they're so different from the GOP but you're not. In fact, with all the back stabbing, lying, cheating and deceitfulness I've been seeing I think it's sending this Independent vote back to the right.

MA

Well said! Easley is the modern Jim Hunt!

stanium: I used more than enough proof in my logic...your the one who has been making wild statements that don't make sense to people who are grounded in reality. If you don't have the proof, than don't make up the lies.

@ MA: Well said!

staniam:
I wouldn't bet my house on that!
No Way she will get the nomination!
If she does the Democrat Party will be
destroyed and McCain wins the general
election!
This has become a no-lose situation for
McCain because she has weakened
Obama so much with her "kitchen sink"
campaign that McCain will win the
general against him!
When January 2008 rolls around you'll have Hillary Clinton to blame for
the Inauguration Of President John McCain!

Reaganfan

I am of the 30 percent that will not vote for Obama under any circumstances and Mccain has more experience than Obama and is smarter than Bush so thats ok with me but Hillary will win get readyto lose your house

tom -- do you really think that a margin of less than 3% in pledged delegates is turning over the "will of the people?" There are no back-room deals to be had, this is about electability, the number one priority for the Democratic elite. There is no stealing an election -- that implies that it has belonged to someone.

The SDs can vote anyway they want where they can also use MI and FL votes as a measure of the will of the people.

Why don't you do a little research on how well the youth vote gets out during an election cycle. Not looking so good for Obama...

That's funny...YOU know that Gore and Pelosi are for Obama? You should let the Obama campaign know that because I couldn't find that on his website. He can have Pelosi though--she is enjoying an approval rating lower than good old W right now. That's not something I would brag about.

Tom

Lies are based more in someone elses campaign

stanium,
thank you. it seems there are some on this post who are are belligerent. do you find that to be the case? i prefer to have a civil conversation. is that possible here?

Lom

Thats right Pelosi has sold this country down the river she will be percived as strong comapred to Obama

The Clintons threw Gore under the bus repeatedly...of course he is for Obama. Pelosi's statements make me believe that she is for Obama....the youth vote will get out for Obama because he is a young candidate that they can connect to, not a 72 yr old. Do you really believe that all of the new registered Dems. and party swithchers are for Clinton? LOL! Good one!!

MA

Well I came on expecting to be civil but somehow I knew these peopel would use stuff like this to deflect the wright issue and btw if Hillary gets her populart vote in FL and the supers decide early for Clinton based on the wright thing that would be so sad for the obamabots wouldnt it ?

staniam -- I am with you. I initially said I would support Obama should he get the nomination (and even 'scolded' some folks here for saying they would vote for McCain). However, the more we get to 'know' him, it has become obvious that he is not ready to lead this country. I am willing to vote for McCain should Obama win the nomination because he will be a change from Bush and has the leadership to make those changes. I have survived the last 7 years...I can survive the next 4. People might say I'm selfish for making a statement like that; however, McCain has a track record for proving he can work across the aisle to bring about change. I'd take that any day over the rhetoric that Obama spews.