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Bill Clinton Joins Hillary Chorus Reaffirming Call for Two Oregon Debates

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April 26, 2008 11:11 AM

ABC News' Sarah Amos reports: In case the people of Oregon weren't entirely sure how badly Sen. Hillary Clinton wants another chance to debate her Democratic opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, President Bill Clinton was in town Friday to remind voters about just that fact. Campaigning in the small coastal community of North Bend, the former commander in chief pointed out how badly Hillary wants not just one, but two Oregon debates.

"I wish that we could have debates on all this," Clinton told the crowd during one of his long policy discussions. "And Hillary has proposed that Oregon should have two debates, one on the issues generally and one on you, on rural life in America today and what should be done. And if you agree you oughta make your feelings known, either on her Web site or some other way," Clinton said.

The push for another debate is just the latest in a long line of subtle, and not so subtle, hints Hillary, Bill and every other surrogate they can find have been laying down on the campaign trail. Sen. Clinton has put forth debate challenges in North Carolina, Indiana and Oregon, for those keeping count.

The former president spoke to a packed high school gymnasium in the coastal Oregon community. It had been more than 40 years since anything related to presidential politics had rolled through their neck of the woods, and the crowd was clearly excited to be a part of the never-ending presidential story line.

Clinton has been accused of many things during the course of this campaign season, but not knowing his audience rarely leads the list of charges. Friday night was a perfect example of why Clinton can connect with almost any American, as he launched into an in-depth discussion on the fishery issues that plague the Northwest.

"Now the administration has taken a curiously hands-off position on this while the salmon population keeps going down. I don't know if you remember this, but this started eight or nine years ago when I was president. There was a weird coalition of salmon fishermen in Washington and Oregon and Canada against Alaska because the population was moving so far north. We gotta bring back the population, it's gotta be the product of a stakeholder decision that you make. If you can get everybody together, which she will try to do, and convene people, she will support whatever comes out of involving all the stakeholders to bring the population back. This is a worldwide problem. Ninety percent of the world's fishing centers are understocked today. And fish are the main source of protein for poor people all over the world. This is a global crisis that you have a bad local case of. And she is determined to work with you to resolve it and reverse it," said Clinton, earning a thunderous applause from the audience. 

But perhaps the loudest applause of the night came not from Clinton's words, but from his actions. The combination of Clinton's hour-long speech and a gym packed full of warm bodies was more heat than many in the room could handle -- former president included.

"You won't be offended if I take my coat off, will you?" Clinton asked the crowd as he tossed off his suit coat in the middle of his speech. The audience erupted into a mixture of applause, laughter and inaudible catcalls that only Clinton himself seemed to hear.

"You oughta.... That's not good," a chuckling Clinton said in response.

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NO MORE FREAKING DEBATES!!!!!

Posted by: FOLLOWINGtheRULES | Apr 26, 2008 11:30:24 AM

Wise up ,the reason she wants debates she is out of money and this is FREE air time....Same ole crap lets move on and they each tell their tales by themselves....Billy can go home>>>>>>

Posted by: h | Apr 26, 2008 11:34:46 AM

21 debates I think is more than plenty.

Posted by: CC | Apr 26, 2008 11:36:56 AM

Wishfull thinking on the Clintons part.
there won't be and OR Contest. This thing is over in two weeks, which ever way it goes.

Obama08

Posted by: Thinking | Apr 26, 2008 11:39:06 AM

She's broke.

Free air time.

Sad.

Posted by: Dann | Apr 26, 2008 11:39:39 AM

There have been a lot of debates, I have watched them all...That being said, there haven't been that many with just Obama and Clinton, the earlier ones didn't really count in my opinion as they were usually just playing nice, and they didn't showcase the ineptitude of Obama. Clinton has put up with endless character assassination, bias, and just mean spirited treatment in debates and interviews. No one was ruder than Chris Matthews and Tim Russert. But Obama gets the gloves off treatment just one time, and he runs away like a scared rabbit. Personally, I want to know how a candidate reacts under pressure and in a hostile environment, I don't want to wait until he is meeting with Iran to see if he is immature enough to show his unease with finger gesturing or platitudes. Mr. Obama needs to grow up, he acts like a petulant child when things don't go his way.

Posted by: dwc | Apr 26, 2008 11:44:09 AM

They have only had three or four debates against each other.

That's not enough.

Debates with ten people in them a year ago don't count.

He is not going to be able to say inthe general he wont debate.

It's another electability issue.

Posted by: s.b. | Apr 26, 2008 11:46:12 AM

FRESH FROM UPI:

Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama's avoidance of future primary debates shows he wants to engage voters rather than discuss policy, observers say.

Posted by: Aston | Apr 26, 2008 11:50:42 AM


Democrats: Nominate Obama. Please!

Then, let the circus begin.

Posted by: A | Apr 26, 2008 12:12:26 PM

This race has always been Hillary's to lose and she has done well at that since last fall...lost points in every campaign so far. Do you really think this woman can successfully carry on a winning campaign or be an effective leader? The Clintons don't care about the party or the issues. They care about themselves. They will bring down the party. Nod, Nod, Nod.

Why do people who like Hillary always seem to go to non-issues to dis Obama? Talk about Africa or lapel pins. This election is too important for that.

Posted by: Wagthedog1001 | Apr 26, 2008 12:24:27 PM

As an Obama supporter, I wish he would agree to a debate

But I don't fault him for not wanting to

Unless there's an arrangement of sticking to the issues...

Posted by: Vanessa | Apr 26, 2008 12:25:22 PM


Folks are looking to nominate a Leader not a Fighter.

Hillary likes to fight a lot, and this is really typical old politics!

Why can't she use the time and try to eliminate her highest unfavourable ratings of any nominee in a half a century!

Posted by: Peace | Apr 26, 2008 12:29:34 PM

Hillary needs to stop with the negativity. Even PA voters that supported her felt she was taking it too far. Follow Obama's lead and rise above the cheap political shots. If it goes on then McCain and the GOP will waltz into the White House and we will have another 4 years of blatant corporate greed in the White House and 100 years of our troops in Iraq.

Posted by: Kdem | Apr 26, 2008 12:34:25 PM

If he is scared to debate, so be it. It is understandable because Hillary beats Obama every time.

But the electorate does deserve to hear more about plans to turn the economy around. It deserves to hear the rationale for these plans and a chance to evaluate the strength of character of each candidate.

Make no mistake: the next four years will be hard and require tough mindedness from the chief executive. Sober voters should be stepping back and looking critically at the candidates from all sides and asking who the best hire is. It sounds trite but as someone who leads a team and has to make the hiring decisions, I can say with confidence, these are the most important decisions I make. Get it right and my company prospers. Get it wrong and we fail drop by drop.

Get it right.

Posted by: len | Apr 26, 2008 12:37:29 PM

NEVER rule a Clinton out.

Funds might be down, but she has a remarkable ability to raise them back up again.

She's a "never say die" candidate alright.

We need a President like that. Not one that talks to Ahmedinedjad willy-nilly.

Posted by: John Laws | Apr 26, 2008 12:39:30 PM

Why are people so concerned about "the issues"? Don't you realize the all these empty promises by all the candidates will go by the wayside? The world turns on money, and politicians and even laws are powerless to stop it.

Posted by: xray | Apr 26, 2008 12:43:10 PM

I've bad sobering news for you, Peace. We need a fighter who leads from the front. When making a hiring decision, if I detect elitism or 'too smart to work hard for you' in an interview, that person is checked off the list no matter how good their degrees are. An elitist does more damage to the team than any other kind of puffed up loafer. I can find work for the middle guy, but the guy that is too good to work can't be useful in any way.

Two things I look for:

1. When I propose a problem scenario, they come back with a reasonable answer. If they don't have an answer, they tell me that too.

2. When I ask why they are applying if they have a good job, they tell me they can do better. If I know the place they are working is abusive and they say they would rather work more for less money than get more money but put up with abuse, I put them at the top of the list. Nothing is better than a junkyard dog in an alley fight.

So far, nothing Obama has said or done makes me think he can take the pressure, or will fight when the fight is mean and it hurts. He glides. We don't need a glider. We need a slugger.

Posted by: len | Apr 26, 2008 12:43:42 PM

I know Hillary needs the coverage due to money problems, but really people in Oregon have TVs and computers I hope;and have seen enough debates.After 16 months and 21 debates,if you don't know who you support by now then stay home on election day! believe me she will find other ways to continue to try and bloody Obama up.
PLEASE NO MORE DEBATES!

Obama 08!

Posted by: merle7 | Apr 26, 2008 12:56:22 PM

Irrespective of whether Obama is queried about "the issues" or his personal associations and values in a debate, he loses. When asked about issues, he stumbles, stammers, and contradicts himself. In many instances, he flat out doesn't know the answer. If asked about his nefarious friends or family, he dismisses the question or lies. It's no big surprise he doesn't want another debate. He can't handle another debate, and he certainly can't handle the presidency.
There's only one democratic candidate who can, Hillary.

Posted by: Emily | Apr 26, 2008 1:00:45 PM

No more debates! I want to see the candidates in person not answering idiotic questions from the snarky media people with their own agendas! Please spare us Debates- they aren't even real. Wouldn't you rather go to a Town Hall meeting??

Posted by: Lisa | Apr 26, 2008 1:13:51 PM

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