Are we all just stunned that this guy has been a heartbeat away from the presidency for the last 7-8 years.

How did that happen?

We elected him. Deal with it.

But I don't disagree with him.

Plain talk: however we got here, race is the topic. All sides have something to say about it. It goes better if we don't demonize each other.

That is precisely what Black Liberation Theology does to whites. No matter the outcome of this election, this topic isn't going away, so Senator Obama can deal with it, or let it pass.

It is his choice.

We can vote for him considering his ongoing association with communities of this belief or not.

That is our choice. Welcome to America.

The Wright comments and Obama's support of them for 20 years will run 24/7 the moment he is nominated.

Obama is totally unelectable.

What a tool - offensive hyperbole from a former marine - vs torture.

Thats right I forgot - validating the torture and oppression over freedom of speech (despite how vile) is his modus operendi.

Will be pleased to see you in the defense stand - as a war criminal.

Yeah, which is worst Cheney: the comments of the minister? Or, sending men and women in harms way for a war that should have never been fought?

This goes to show that senator will be the nominee and will win the white house in 2008.

First of all this war criminal can't call anything appalling. It's appalling what he and Bush are doing to our men and women in uniform, not to mention the Iraqi people.They fit right up there with Saddam,when it comes to genocide. They should be put on trial for crimes againt humanity.
NO MORE REPUBLICAN EVER!

Obama 08!

The Obamamaniacs thought this was going away. It will be more of the same in November if he is the Democratic nominee.

Does Cheney really think anyone gives a damn what he, President Bush or Hannity have to say about anything?

Cheney, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY APPALLING.
You make me sick. The nation will dance when your gone.

J, I personally hope it stays in the headlines until June. That way come November it will be a dead issue - the polls show 87% of the voting public has seen the video or heard the quotes YET Senator Obama is still here.... Please keep running this in the headlines now while it clearly doesn't impact Senator Obama. That way it will be dead in time for the general election.

Even Cheney sees that Obama sucks and is
a racist liar .

Obviously, Cheney is a freak, but be warned Democrats.. this is the kindof crap we'll be listening to all fall long. Rev. Wright's greatest hits will be splattered all over TV 24/7. I hope you guys who signed on to the "yes we can" train are ready, because it's gonna get ugly. We adults tried to tell you... putting up a novice against these guys will get us no where.. but you bought the hope on a stick. All I can say is.. Good Luck.

As Rev. Wright isn't running for President, what he says and does is of no concern. But I am interested in the crimes Cheney has committed.

i agree. Obama will be shredded by the republicans...

If the thoughts of Rev. Wright are those of Sen. Obama, then I strongly disagree with both of them. They have a right to their opinions and I will defend that but if Obama believes what Wright says then he is not fit to be the President of the United States.

Cheney is the biggest piece of crap to ever walk the halls of the white house period......

I think Cheney weighed in today because Collin Powell totally PRAISED Obama.

I say keep this in the headlines. By the time the Fall comes around people could care less.

My mom is already tired of the subject.

Sar, first i was stunned, then i thought of my preist and said, "eh, whatever". I never bothered to listen to the whole sermon. Then i got an email from a friend with a link to the ENTIRE sermon and he asked that everyone listen to it. He is nto that liberal of a person. So I thought "odd, He doesn't seem like he'd support this" but he is a very intelligent guy so i indulged himn and I listened to the WHOLE sermon and after I did, sorry to break it to ya, but I think the Rev made some very very godo points about what a Christian is and how, and this is Rev WRight's quote in those sermonds "VIOLENCE BEGETS VIOLENCE" "HATE BEGETS HATE"....did you listen to the whole sermon? No. Obviously, I can tell. YOU don't understand his point. His point was that he was concerned that we will be damned for what we do. HE was not calling for God to damn us. ANTBODY who actually listend to it would understand that. but hey, nto like a rightwinger to be informed so keep up the steriotpye of the obtuse uninformated ignorant rightwinger. IT works so well for you people. why let a little thing like the truth stand in the way of a good right winger rant, huh??? never has before.

Rev. Wright has been a top advisor to that Obama
dude... Why isnt that relevant?

Hi Dogsoldier-
Again you take everything so literally.. Do I mean Cheny and Clinton hatched the scheme together? No of course not. Do I think they are taking advantage of the momentum and playing off each other and allowing each of the camps to make their arguments for them ? Yes. But the real point you missed is the positions they put forward have no basis in fact.
-Posted by IntelliWhiFeminiWoman

CHENEY war criminal!!!

I think if Obama gets the nomination what we will see if folks looking into those sermons more, and more TV spots will play them in their entirety and once people see that it will be a non-issue. It already is a non-issue with everyone except the far right.

OMG! Cheney and I agree on something.

Vice President Cheney, as to what you have to say about anything....what I would like to say to you is .....so?....

I listened to way more than two sentences.

"YES some of the words in the rev's particular sermon were appalling... "...I actually challenge that thought. I you actually listen to them in the context to which they were spoke they were not. REad the post put up before you. THis person obviously heard the whole sermon. "Violence begets violence" Rev Wright said. "We want revenge, we want payback and we don’t care who gets hurt in the process." Rev WRight said. TOo bad cheney DIDN"T think like Rev WRight!!!!!!! No, I do not mind AT ALL a man who has had a pastor who teaches such things as "Violence begets violence"...no, I don't mind it at all. We could use it!

to the poster with no name - legally, if you own a website with hyperlinks you are responsible for allowing them... in fact, posting hyperlinks without permission is against the law... the larger legitimate sites do not allow hyperlinking so they do not get sued.... hence the reason moderators delete posts with links in them.

After participating in authorizing war crimes as one of the gang of six breaking international law, Cheney is "stunned" by something that someone said? Oh, how shocking!

All the leftist hypocrites cutting down V.P. Cheney without any provable crimes except what's in their imaginations! If he was guilty of any ANY crime whatsoever you can be sure that all those hypocrites would be all over him legally. So why are'nt the scumbuckets inditing him? HYPOCRITES,HYPOCRITES,HYPOCRITES, all of you!

thastar, you didn't listen to the whole sermon. What other excuse is there for you not to understand what he said?

Appalling is You saying "SO?" to our arm troops and us parents who suffer so you get rich! Cheney you are appalling !

what i dont get is y every one is so stuck on the war in iraq. see the problem is that the world needs policed. unfortunatlly its a double edged sword. its a loose loose situation for this great country of ours. see if we do something about it then were starting a war we shouldnt be in and if we dont do anything then were ignoring the problem and we dont care about them. so before we go bad mouthing the people making the decisions maybe we should start with bad mouthing the people that put them there. and also if barak was in office on 911 how do u think he would have handled it. would he have just tucked tail and ran and not stood our ground. the bottom line is that the decision has been made and we should deal with it util the end. support our troops and our elected leaders decision.

I'm a white 48 y.o. woman with a decent job and I was very happy to vote for Senator Obama in the primaries. I'm not against Senator Clinton, although I'm not crazy about her, either. I will gladly vote for either one in the general elections

I do have to say that I pity the next POTUS, no matter WHO she/he is, because they will have a HUGE mess to clean up. And if they don't do it PERFECTLY (and who could?), you know that the die-hard-"excuse-Bush-no-matter-what" crowd will cry and moan and blame them for everything. How sad...

For the first time in my life I agree with Cheney. I hope the world doesn't end tomorrow!

hasn't cheney been indicted in the Netherlands or some such place for war crimes??? I think he will one day be put up to trial. For whatever reason he launched the war, thinking it was easy, getting rich, getting oil...whatever, I believe completley it was NOT for our safety. He used our military like it was cannon fodder. He broke a solemn promise we have with our troops that we would NEVER put them in harms way unless it was totally necessary. Cheney should go to jail. so should bush. WHo knows, maybe someday someone will find some memo, some evidence they haven't destroyed. Maybe one day they will. either way, I don't think God smiles down on them. In this way I think REv WRights IS rights. God doesn't change in what he thinks is right and wrong. if you do nto do God's will, you WILL be damned, no matter who you are.

WestCoastMessenger,
Yes I did indeed post that I have seen the same verbage by you guys on multiple days on multiple blogs; same with Concerned American I believe though Concerned American wasn;'t in the blog we (you, Dogsoldier and I) when I posted that comment. And indeed that would certainly make it appear as if your comments were "canned", "cut and paste" ,"rehearsed" IDK. Dogsoldier did just post recently without a slogan and seemingly in the moment; so I reserve further judgement.
-Posted by IntelliWhitFeminiWoman

That is the first sensible thing that idiot has said.

It's so bad even Chaney is laughing at Obama and his unRev. Wright. "Oh what a tangled web we weave".

Now I am confused.

I thought Rev Wright's remarks in question were just wrong.....but now the only American who embodies pure evil spoken against those statements....thats puzzling because the eveil criticizes only the good...that would mean either Chainy is good and Wright is eviel....or vise versa......but naaaaa Chainy can not be anything but evil.s

Hillary....She stood by her man, she'll stand by you.

i would like to know were mr. obama came from antway. 1 day hes a nobody sen. and the next day hes got good potential to be pres. how the hell did this guy get so popular anyway. is it cuz hes chanting change? what change? im yet to here what changes he will make for the better.

west coast messenger
obama will persevere. so will his campaign will all Americans .
Barack supporters will not waiver.

Cheney is an evil, greedy man. That fact does not in any way change Wright's statements.

One article about the views of the Vice President and the Rightous Indignation Brigade comes out and conspiracy theories abound. In the future please posts links providing proof of your theories. Don't take this the wrong way but posts on par with "Cheney Eats puppies and kitties alive" are much more believable with a reference or two. Let's keep our argument within the realm of possibility and try to keep a civil tongue in your mouth. Anger is fine but, try to back it up with some facts.

Ready?

Go!

OBAMA IS GOING TO WIN !!

THE ONLY WAY TO STOP HIM WOULD BE...

1. TO CATCH HIM ON NBC'S "TO CATCH A PREDATOR"

2. TO CATCH HIM SHOOTING AN ELITIST CONTRIBUTOR, WHILE HUNTING DEAR !!

MY BAD...

CHENEY'S ALREADY DONE THAT AN GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT !!

SO ANYTHINGS POSSIBLE THERE ?

3. TO FIND OUT HE'S WANTED ON FOX'S "AMERICA'S MOST WANTED" FOR SEVERAL UNPAID... PARKING VIOLATIONS !!

OTHER THAN THAT...

OBAMA'S IN THE WHITE HOUSE !!

It amazes me, Chaney and Obama are so much alike and can't stand each other.

I just can't enough of the spelling and grammatical errors in the posts of those that hate Cheney. Clearly products of public education. I'll start listening to the criticisms of the Left once they learn to present them properly. If you want to be taken seriously you need to follow a couple of simple rules.....ah, who am I kidding, who can take these people seriously?

Hey Republicans
Hillary tried and she couldnt do it.
she is much better at than you .
she throws the kitchen sink.

Rev. Wright comments were so bad, they woke up Chaney. This was bad for Chaney, he had 12 more years to sleep, just like Rip Van Winkle.

How many brave American and innocent Iraqi civilians have died because of the Bush Cheney administration. How many deaths is Rev Wright responsible for either at his own hands or by instigating others? If the answer is none who cares whether the most cruel and ungrateful person on earth things that free speech of Wright is appalling. In the scale of 1 to 10. 10 being appalling decisions leading to deaths. Cheney gets a 10

Americans have dealt with this issue ad its over. their are just a few that cant get past it . but in time , when Barack has proven to them what a great president he is it will then be okay.

I AGREE WITH CHENEY ON THIS ONE.
OBAMA'S FRIEND ANTI-AMERICAN PASTOR IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE MAIN STREET AMERICA.
THE PICTURE OBAMA AND THE ANTI-AMERICAN PASTOR ESTABLISHED THE OPINION MOST AMERICANS HAVE ABOUT OBAMA AS CANDIDATE FOR THE NOMINATION OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
OBAMA IS UNELECTABLE IN NOVEMBER.

For all you Obambis. The Un-Rev.Wright story is not going away. In case you aren't aware, the majority of true americans will never abide a person who condones that sort of rant against their country. You can make any excuse you want, the truth remains, Obama didn't condemn Wright for this crap and will forever be guilty by association.

tinkerbell, you got that right! Rev. Wright has saved the GOP MILLIONS. You can't pay for advertising like the Rev. is giving us!

He has enough contact with Hamas through Farrakahn, Davis and Wright.

the bad rev. used his right to free speech, I don't agree with him, but Chaney calling him out is like the pot calling the kettle black...

Omentum in 2000 "We're gonna win big"

Omentum in 2002 "We're gonna take back the House & Senate

Omentum in 2004 "We're gonna win big"

Omentum in 2008 "We're gonna win big"

Oops. Not a good track record.

I would like to ask you people who are against the war and sending our youth in harms way if you ever heard of Korea and Vietnam. If you can read check your history books to see that they were started by the democrats. Look at that wall in D.C. at the 50,000 names of the young people that the democrats sent in harms way. In this way, these people volunteered not like Korea or Vietnam. I agree, war is terrible. This country is in bad shape when people have to argue about those two losers (Clinton and Obama) P.S. don't much like McCain, but he's a giant compared to those two.

the swiftboat club is sharpening their tools as we speak and boy do they have allot of material to work with. accept it. obama cannot win without hillary supporters if he gets the nomination accept it and stop trying so hard to alienate us with hateful arrogant statements against anybody that does not support obama.
the wright story is not going to go away accept it-have you not learned anything from your candidate who turned the wright issue in his favor with the speech. you guys are the educated ones remember-us blue collar, uneducated, downtrodden types are too busy working to save you from yourselves.

Omentum, yes I think McCain will be the president IF Barack is the nominee. If Hillary was, then I wouldn't bet on it.

You couldn't have picked a more unelectable person than Barack Hussein Obama.

And for that, I thank you. :)

Omentum, apparently you don't read or get out much.

Africa activists Bob Geldorf and Bono have said Bush has done more than any other U.S. President for Africa.

wow you lose again. Next.

ah, no, i'm not appaulled after having listened the entire sermon. WRight did not ask God to d*mn America. If the tape allowed him to finish his sentence, it was that God will D*mn America if she doesn't treat her citizens properly. If you actually HEARD what it is you are complaining about, you should listen to more than two sentences ofthe sermon. The majority of hte sermon talked about policies of this government that were once thought of as OK. Slavery, Japaenese internment, Indian ethnic cleansing, and he said "GOD does not change. Governments do, Thank GOD." GOD does not change what he thinks is right or wrong, but governments do change what they think is right or wrong and we must be careful what we think is right is today. "we want payback and we don't care who gets hurts in teh process" and he clarifies this to children and citizens in countries we attack. He also said "Violence begets violence" and how wrong is the "Cycle of violence"...he said WE will be d*mned if we act violently, immorally. We don't get ot say "God bless America" and then act immoral and think thati s ok, that God will bless us no matter what we do. "No, no, no" God Dmn America if she doesn't treat her people properly, if she doesn't act morally. So no, if you listen to the entire sermon, the message of breaking teh cycle of violence ,of how God will NOT go with us if we go to the dark side, no, his sermon was not at all outrageous, AND I would MUCH rather have a president who has had such a man, who has preached leaders to be thoughtful and wary of going over to thedarkside, I would EMBRACE having a leader who has listene to such sermonds. Cheney should have listened to such sermons. Appauled indeed!!! appauled that a man is saying that senseless violence is wrong and that God woudl frown on it! yeah, I bet, D i c k, I bet you find that appauling!

It never ceases to amaze me how uninformed democrats are.

Has any body looked closely at McCain? The man is 70 years old, is this what you call a new vision for America or the same old politics that got us into the mess we are currently in. Come on America, for once think and do something different for our children.

Are you not tired of 8 years of Bush/McCain republican leadership. We are trillions of dollars in debt, our Mortgage industry has collasped, Jobs are leaving this country faster then you can say india and free trade agreements. 4028 dead and 26,000 wounded based upon a republican leadership lie ( today this is undisputed), Hallaburton and Oil companies making unreal profits (thanks to the relationships with Caney, Bush and McCain), Yes,all have ties to Bush/McCain and Chaney. While the working people in this country are getting squeezed. Look, if you want to continue to support this type of government, then don't cry when things get worse. The only reason these clowns can lie and cheat the American people is that some of us are too dumb or lazy to do something different.

"Are we all just stunned that this guy has been a heartbeat away from the presidency for the last 7-8 years.

How did that happen?"

Easy, he doesn't have a heart.

I think Obama is much more electable than Hillary. He is just too good on the spot. If people listen to him, they convert. When he is the nominee, you put him up against mccain in a debate, and you will see an old man who is a war mongers and is nearly the identical to george bush isn nearly every policy and a complete breath of fresh air. Obama is too good at talking, too smart, too fluid. He will win, easily. Right wingers will be completely utterly shocked. I've never heard such racist remarks as i have on here, but the far righters do not have the midwest states, they do not have the north, certianly not california nad they won't have florida. the next president will be Obama. YOu racists just need to learn to deal.

OBAMA IS UNELECTABLE IN NOVEMBER.
OBAMA IS FAKE.
OBAMA IS A JOKE.
OBAMA=NO EXPERIENCE.
OBAMA=HOPE.HOPE IS A SLOGAN.
OBAMA=A CHANGE.CHANGE IS A TERMINOLOGY.

MAYBE THE ANTI-AMERICAN PASTOR WRIGHT CAN EXPLAIN TO US BETTER.

DEMOCRATS WILL SPLIT IN DENVER.

STAY TUNE.

domestic, Afghanistan, and Iraq policies may have had some thing to do with this. Policies that Obama and Clinton oppose. So if you anti Obama and Clinton folks get your way, what than? Let me make some predictions. The Patriot Act will be history and Al Qaeda will be free to plot away without fear of the US knowing what they are doing. Once the US has retreated and let Al Qaeda take over Iraq, Al Qaeda can use Iraq's vast oil reserves to fund a nuk. Oh my. Iran will flex their muscles and openly say, yeah we have nuks and if you don't give us what we want, lets say the destruction if Israel, we will nuk you. Oh my. Of course, Obama with his great speaking skills will be able to talk Al Qaeda and Iran out of all this nonsense. He will make a big speech and a lot of people will faint for real when he tells them the way to avoid being nuked is to convert to Islam, bow to Mecca and kill all the gays. Oh my.

Dear Mr. Obama,

Please win the nomination. Please. The economy is weak, the war is difficult, and we need the weakest democrat candidate imaginable if we want to remain in the Oval Office.

You are that guy.

Sincerely,
The Republican Party

realdeal, you people elected bush, twice. have ya seen the approval rating of your guy? Or cheney for that matter? I promise you Rev. WRight's approval rating is higher than cheney's. McCain is on par with Bush on nearly every issue. McCain hasn't a chance in the world. No Repbulican does, really. but certianly not one so prowar as McCAin. We are all SICK ofwar. Sick of debt, and sick of big corporations socializign their LOSSES while wanting freemarket when they ahve huge profits. Gee, we pay for it comign and going, huh??? republican on the national scale have done just too crappy a job. Nobody cares about anybody's pastor. mark my words, there jsut aren't enough people who are MORE racist than they are desperate for a change.

Jo, who cares how long somebody goes to someones church. Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review(Very,Very, big deal in legals circles) and a graduate of Harvard Law school, don't you think he was taught to think for himself. You also must remember, Rev Wright is much older then Obama and has witness more pain as an African American that Obama and many in the younger generation will never understand completely. Don't let the republicans get you looking one way and pick pocet you while you are not paying attention. That how we got Bush and 4,028 dead and 25,000 wounded (you might not be very concerned unless you have a family member over there or is one of the dead or wounded) So don't fall for the Karl Rove tactics which includes the swift boat ( remember they defamed the character of an American Hero John Kerry with a bunch of lies which lead to Bush which lead to this mess), pastor wright crap and who knows what else these A-holes will come up with next. Don't be used.

Cheney is appalled at statements from Rev Wright....

Repeat the sentence, close your eyes and imagine 4,000 caskets draped with flags....the lies...

and he's appalled....

Hey, this is old news, but when Mr. Cheney brought it up, it becames new news again. It is hot like it is just from the oven, so people can enjoy and remember it well.

I WONDER IF THE DEMOCRATS WILL EVER LEARN.
THEY NOMINATE LEFT WING LIBERALS.
THIS TIME IS WORST.
IF THEY NOMINATE OBAMA,IT WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AS WE KNOW IT.

Crock: You apparently have no problem with Mr. Wright's freedom of speech but you draw the line at Mr. Cheney's?? Freedom of speech is for everybody.

As to what Mr. Wright has said, it is appalling. While he has - and should have - every right to say what he thinks or feels, I also have the right to say, vehemently, what I think of his comments and to criticize him for making them. That is what "Freedom of Speech" means.

To demand that Freedom of Speech be restricted to certain people is the first step to tyranny and tyranny is no sweeter because the tyrant believes he is right. Most of the trants in history - including both Hitler and Stalin - believed they were right.

Every president has his constituency. To win, he has to patch together a broad coalition, convincing enough groups that he's one of them but he always ends up governing with his original constituency. You could say that Bill Clinton's constituency was kind of Yale Law School oriented, smart, liberal, do-gooders. Bush's constituency was the oil patch, big energy, big corporations and big money. Obama has given every indication that his constituency is based on the values of Trinity Church, Rev. Wright and black liberation theology.

Nicholas,

If you checked the history books (since you are into history) then you can understand why Pastor Wright said some of the things he said. Why don't you use your history knowledge to correct some of these anti-Obama people and point out that yes its true the USA at one time was the US of KKK, remember the movie birth of a nation? Oh, you probably don't want to talk history know?

Do the right thing,
No evidence that Michelle Obama is a racist?? Are you kidding???
Just read her college thesis. She is obsessed with racism and expresses her disdain for white people in it. You want more evidence? MSNBC Morning Joe interview (11/13/2007) Michelle: "Black America will wake up and get it. Black people need to vote for Barack." ABC interview: "My husband can change the image of black America." What about her brother, Craig Malcolm Robinson? What was his thesis about? You guessed it!!! "Racism" within the prison community. Looks to me like Michelle is a very angry woman who carries a very large chip on her shoulder towards white people.

Do the right thing,
I'm sorry you can't deal with the facts. Now you have chosen to personally attack me. This is another reason Hillary supporters will not vote for Barack. As to Michelle, her statements definitely come off as racist. What if Hillary had made these stmts substituting white for black? You would be the first to crucify her as a racist. Her one stmt that "Black people need to vote for Barack" makes it seem like they are obliged to vote for him just because he is black. That's not racist? Maybe white people should vote for Hillary just because she is white. How would you feel then? And by the way, my father died of brain cancer, so I definitely did not appreciate your comment. Wake up, pick a person who will best represent all of America. Stop being a bigot!!

kevin how old are you? Powell is old, and if you are calling him old you must be 80, hee hee.

It will be a great moment in American history when a black person is elected president. But it should be someone who is experienced and ready and settled in his identity. Obama's autobiographies show that he is still not comfortable in his own skin, so to speak. He is too caught up in proving he is black enough. He is ashamed of his white relatives. That's why he can never ditch Wright or Farrakhan -- they give him his black creds. I don't believe that deep down he is capable of being president of all Americans. I think he views people as blacks, whites, jews, italians, etc., not as all Americans. It's a subtle but I think key distinction. Race and ethnic groups matter too much to him.

Okay, so Reverend Wright isn't on any ballot that I've seen. So I'm not planning on voting for him as a write-in either.

The torture thing is a huge problem for our country. It wipes any moral authority we have (or had), it is a poor tool for gathering useful information, and it exposes our soldiers to grievous harm. What I cannot for the life of me understand is how John McCain, who was tortured himself, can even stomach being associated with Bush/Cheney. How does he defend these guys? How can he honestly accept their support? The John McCain I knew in 2000 would be speaking up now about this. I guess the new and improved John McCain just cares about winning this time around... How disappointing...

Posted by: Aerin,

You make the same point I was trying to make regarding free speech. Your points are well taken,however, I was not confusing the patriot act with free speech, I simply said and believe that the forces that suggest Obama should not have been a member of that church based upon some of the thing the Pastor said are the same people that are eroding our rights in other areas. If we really believed in freedom of speech and freedom of worship, why is the pastor wright thing an issue and being used against OBama in a punitive manner (trust me when I say that playing and replaying those tapes are soley for the purpose of trying to attack this man).

I wonder if your job sanction you for what your pastor said in church over the past years? When Mitt Romney was running, did you see any tapes of his Pastor on the tube? I think the mormans have some rather different view points as well. They think if you are not a Morman you are going to hell or be damned, So don't try to make this a innocent freedom, public knowledge issue, this is an attack on a black man running for the highest office in the land. That's why his pastor is on TV and John McCains spiritual mentor John Haggee is not (oh by the way, go back and see some of the things Haggee has preached). So cut the nonsense and get real!

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT...SHE STOOD BY HER MAN; SHE'LL STAND BY YOU.