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April 10, 2008 4:56 PM

Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., vented frustration that the Democratic Party has failure to come to a resolution about how to handle the convention delegations in Florida and Michigan.

"I really don’t understand why the Republican Party very clearly decided what they were going to do, and the Democratic Party can’t decide," Clinton said at an airport in Pittsburgh, going further than she has in the past in her critique.

Clinton then turned on her opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., saying, "He doesn’t want the votes to count. Sen. Obama has been very very clear -- do not count those votes or come up with some kind of resolution which disenfranchises people."

An exasperated Clinton burst into a fit of laughter, after being asked twice about the Colombia trade deal and a possible conflict of interest involving her differing opinion with her husband on the matter. When asked if there was a conflict of interest specifically with her husband receiving $800,000 for speaking engagements ostensibly in support of the trade deal and Clinton giving her own money to her own campaign, Clinton burst out laughing.

"And how many angels dance on the head of a pin?" she asked. "I have really nothing to-- I mean, how do you answer that. I am against the Colombia free trade deal. It doesn’t matter who talks to me. It doesn’t matter any circumstances. I’ve been against it, I am against it, I will be against it."

Clinton criticized President Bush for his Iraq position, saying, "The president refuses to face the reality that we are confronted by in Iraq."

She continued, "The president is asking the American people for time and patience. The American people are saying he has had enough of both. Our troops have done all that has been asked of them and more. It's time for the president to answer the question being asked of him in the wake of the failed objectives that were laid out to be met by the surge. What is the exit strategy in Iraq?"

When asked if she would be willing to go against advice from military commanders on the ground when she is president to follow an Iraq withdrawal plan that she has laid out as a candidate, Clinton said, "Let me just describe for you the way our system works. The policy is set by the civilian leadership. The president of the United States sets the policy. Our military, thankfully so, carries out the policy that is set. You ask the military for their best advice about how to implement the policy you have set."

Clinton was asked if she agreed with Elton John that misogyny had played a role in this campaign. Clinton said, "Look, you can’t ignore that gender and race are embodied in our two candidacies. We are who we are. And that produces reactions of all kinds from people. But at the end of the day, people have to decide who they think will be the best president."

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Somebody should call her on this Florida & Michigan matter. When she was up by 20 points she agreed to omit Fl. & Mi. The time to question the judgement of the DNC was then not now. Weren't there votes in the general just as important then as it is now.

Posted by: Charles | Apr 10, 2008 5:04:41 PM

US$ 800 000 Colombian money in Bill's pocket for speaking for another NAFTA+, Hill is unelectable, and every day is a demonstration of that reality, she has to live with her unelectable status, pack and go back to Bosnia where the snipers are waiting for her. Nothing substantive in this speech, a typical Hillary talk. The writing is on the wall Hill. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.

Posted by: BKMC | Apr 10, 2008 5:05:14 PM

She should join the Republican party if she thinks they are so wise. What a pathetic loser she is becoming.

Posted by: Bob, DC | Apr 10, 2008 5:21:40 PM

A lot of us are equally frustrated. This country needs someone who knows what they are doing, not another amateur who is afraid to make a decision because it might come back to bite him on election day. If she has the nomination "stolen" from her because of the extreme press bias this year, and the dirty tricks thrown (albeit in a very clever way), she should run as an independent. Bet the DNC know it alls would not like that!

Posted by: dwc | Apr 10, 2008 5:25:15 PM

A few months ago, Hillary was adamant that Florida and Michigan election results would not count because they violated DNC rules.

Now she's adamant the votes have to count as is.

Hillary voted for Iraq, now she's against it.

Hillary was on the board at Walmart and was there for several meetings where Walmart execs ripped union workers. Now, she supposedly supports them. (Lots of video of Walmart exec comments while Hillary was there in 86-92).

Hillary held a pro-NAFTA meeting, but supposedly has been against it.

Bill takes money from Colombia to help fund Hillary's presidential run, but Hillary's against them?

Posted by: Debbie | Apr 10, 2008 5:30:29 PM

You white people have already lost. Obama will win because it is time for us to rise up against those who have been holding us down for so long.

Power to Obama

Posted by: Momo | Apr 10, 2008 5:30:38 PM

What are the important policy differences between Clinton and Obama?

Posted by: Just curious | Apr 10, 2008 5:32:19 PM

From the beginning Hillary has said the FL and MI should count.

Hot For Hillary 2008!!!!!!

Posted by: Sammy | Apr 10, 2008 5:33:20 PM

Take it to the floor Hill!

Obama can't win without MI and FL. There is no point nominating him if it can only happen without 2.3 million demcratic votes being couonted.

No Point!

Posted by: s.b. | Apr 10, 2008 5:33:55 PM

I feel like with the race as close as it is and nobody seeming to budge one way or another...Florida and Michigan need to be seated in some way...not necessary how the results were but...some how.

After this Democratic Party, the DNC needs to look at how insane the format or the primaries is... splitting delegates. The ONLY thing I will ever agree in regards to the Republican party is the "winner" takes the state primary format. This race was interesting, now its just getting old...every little thing is scrutinized.

Posted by: Mo-Jo | Apr 10, 2008 5:36:50 PM

I'm not a Hillary fan and I don't think MI and FL should be counted. Still, she has a point -- the DNC should make a decision and stop acting impotent.

Hmmm -- maybe they're not acting.

Posted by: Surelock Homes | Apr 10, 2008 5:38:03 PM

Obama is the scariest person that has ever attempted to run for office. He has no experience, he admitted him self in 2004 that he was not experienced enough to be the President. He has only been in office for 2 years and he already has more baggage than any other candidate. Worst of all he is a racist. How did he get this far??

If he is the Dem nominee then I will be voting McCain 2008!!

Posted by: Josie | Apr 10, 2008 5:38:57 PM

Hillary: it's not that the Democrats can't decide what to do about Florida and Michigan, it's that they DID decide and you don't agree with the decision. Go out and win the rest, and you'll get the nomination. Otherwise, sink peacefully into the sunset while you work to make the Democrat nominee become the next president.

Posted by: Bob A. from Buffalo | Apr 10, 2008 5:45:43 PM

Uh, calm down Iraq_Vet

I love Hillary to death, but I think people are criticizing her for being a hypocrite.

And if I were a Vet I would be more upset that she was lying about being under sniper fire, and then joking about it during Jay Leno. I think that what our Soldiers fight for is a very serious and heartfelt devotion to American. Not to be made as a "misspoken" joke by Clinton.

Posted by: Sally | Apr 10, 2008 5:47:12 PM

s. b., You're right! Hillary has never wavered in her stance that Florida and Michigan delegates should be seated. it's also completely unconstitutional for the nomination to proceed without them.

As to misogyny in this campaign, the overt vitriol heaped on Hillary by the press during this presidential primary season is reprehensible.

Posted by: Emily | Apr 10, 2008 5:49:11 PM

What is she talking about - the Democratic Party decided months ago what they were going to do - they were not going to count the votes in Michigan and Florida and they were not going to seat their delegations based on those votes. So, what is her gripe here!

Posted by: Paul | Apr 10, 2008 5:51:12 PM

Excellent points, mixed-american!

Posted by: Emily | Apr 10, 2008 5:53:44 PM

The Colombia deal reminds me of the banktuptcy bill. She voted for it but was really against it.

With Colombia trade, she's against it but really for it.

Posted by: Judy | Apr 10, 2008 5:55:49 PM

Hillary should be called out on her latest lies about Michigan and Florida like the way she was called out on her lies about Bosnia. She is getting a completely free ride from the press about this Michigan and Florida issue. If she can only win in states where she is the only one on the ballot she is not going to be a viable candidate for general election.

Posted by: cala | Apr 10, 2008 5:56:09 PM

i share hillary's frustration
look she does not need the money, the fame, or the headaches that will come with the job of rebuilding this country. she already has a job. her life will not be in a shambles if she loses. this leads me to believe that she must believe in her heart that she can improve our economy, end the war and bring healthcare to all. otherwise she would have thrown in the towel a long time ago. i cannot help but believe that much of this hillary bashing is first and foremost sexist in nature. the idea of a woman at the helm is just too much for white men to handle. it is time for a woman president, yes this one. my personal experience with female friends and comments regarding hillary is also revealing-some are so oppressed by men that they believe that only a man can lead, some hate their mother's and project this 'woman in authority issue' onto hillary.

Posted by: sonia trevino | Apr 10, 2008 5:56:28 PM

The only thing that was agreed to regarding regarding MI and FL was that no one would campaign there. The only one who did campaign in FL was Obama (with television ads that ran constantly, especially on MSNBC). Of course there has to be a way of settling this, in a way that clearly respects the will of the voters of these states.

Posted by: svsolis | Apr 10, 2008 5:56:55 PM

re: my previous post; correction and my apologies 'some white men'.

Posted by: sonia trevino | Apr 10, 2008 5:59:24 PM

Pelosi for queen of the United States!

Be a good democrat -- vote early and vote often.

Posted by: S | Apr 10, 2008 5:59:59 PM

Calm down, people. Just wait for less than 2 weeks and we will know who is the true winner...

If Obama can win Penn, then he will be the next president no matter you like or not...

But if Obama can't, then it just proves again he cannot win the big states, big white states...

He will be fixed into his own pattern and will lose his MO.....The chance he can convine other half of Dems and unite party will be ZERO......

Posted by: True Truth | Apr 10, 2008 6:00:00 PM

Can you just imagine if democracy was still in effect....Hillary would be ahead. You have to wonder why the crap with Florida and Michigan. If the tables were turned and Obama was the one wanting the votes, those delegates would count. I am glad Hillary has spoken out on this, she has a right to. Obama made a decision not to have his name on the ballot and the DNC could change their minds and just pay for the recount, but they know that this would help Hillary, why would they do that? I hope Hillary pulls out a win and Obama goes back to the Senate with his racist tail tucked between his legs.

Posted by: Kris | Apr 10, 2008 6:02:10 PM

Clearly, a lot of posters here are mislead on what the "pledges" regarding MI and FL were... the only commitment either candidate made was to not campaign in those states. The DNC does not govern the elections in the states and the MI and FL elections have been certified. Both candidates stated the voters should not be disenfranchised and that the nominee will ask that the delegates be seated at the convention.

The only candidate of all the candidates that violated rules was Obama by running ads in FL but one of his cronies at the DNC said he could. He chose to make a national ad buy instead of a state or regional buy which was cheaper to target SC. He clearly made a decision to try to get around the rules since that was way more expensive and a poor executive decision. His campaign encouraged voters in MI to lie or be unethical in their voting by encouraging them to vote in the republican primary. A revote would not have allowed the cheaters to vote in MI so he blocked it even after he said he would agree with whatever the DNC decided. (They authorized the revote along with the state committee and Clinton.) He even refused to put up half the cost even though Clinton agreed to do so.

I agree with her position. The constitutional rights of voters in MI and FL were violated by the DNC not treating all states fairly. (Two other states who moved their primaries up prior to Feb 5 were not punished.) The court cases regarding MI and FL are still in process. Additional ongoing cases include the Texas caucus investigations and now California investigations.

Clearly the DNC is lacking and the RNC is more competent to run elections. Of course this was engineered by the RNC to divide the party as much as possible and hope for crossover votes out of anger at the DNC. The dem voters and the stupid incompetent DNC keep falling for these RNC tactics over and over. It is no surprise most of our Presidents have been Republicans since Kennedy.

The incompetence of the DNC and its wing control are the two reasons I refuse to support/join the Democratic party. I also refuse to support/join the Republican party with all its corruption and wing control. I am a proud Independent who has always supported Democratic and Independent candidates. It will be a sad day in November if I have to vote for McCain.

Posted by: DCVoter | Apr 10, 2008 6:02:11 PM

Man, the Obama racists are in rare form today. It's funny what people say behind a keyboard. Let's look at the facts without all the distractions. All three candidates are good Americans who want the best for the country (in their view). McCain was the default candidate because all the others were truly unpalatable to the Republican establishment. He's going to be forced to run as a classic (Bush) Republican or sacrifice the support of the republican's most loyal and active constituency, christians. Hillary underestimated Obama and has not run a good campaign by most measures. She keeps inflicting damage on herself because of her exaggerations and Bill's big mouth. Obama has run a very good campaign even though he has some racial baggage he's going to have to deal with. He has out-organized Hillary and has beaten her to the punch. If not for the endearment of the Clinton name to the democratic party, this race would have been over months ago. I predict Obama v. McCain in the fall with Obama winning by about 5-10% nationally. I think the country really wants a new direction and McCain won't push away from Bush forcefully enough becasue he's afraid of the conservative backlash. See? That's how you post without insulting, being conspiracy theorists or name calling. I think we should all strive to be more civil.

Posted by: Travis | Apr 10, 2008 6:05:16 PM

BKMC,
Why is Hillary unelectable? Because you say so?

According to the headlines on MSNBC right now McCain has erased the 10 point national poll lead that Obama previously held. McCain has barely lifted a finger and he is already giving Obama a crushing blow.

I will totally enjoy the beating that the Obama zombies are in for should Obama prevail in the nomination. In that scenario you will be crushed like crunching cockroaches being walked on by an elephant.
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Obama, stay tuned for the final episode!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Apr 10, 2008 6:05:32 PM

sonio trevino, that is the last part of your losing scenario including Elton John's message who was regurgitating the same spin, accusing people of being sexist. That is seriously a very wrong characterization of the situation. Hill the Bosnian General is nobody's mother here. We respect women but we refuse to see sex when it comes to decide on work or leadership. She is not the best candidate for the job, that is a fair judgement. Look at her campaign and how it was mismanaged. Because of her excellent managerial skills she will not have the possibility to manage a Rhumshop in the Caribbean. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.

Posted by: BKMC | Apr 10, 2008 6:07:09 PM

DCVoter,
My apologies to you. I know you are using logic and rationale to appeal to the better senses of people. I'm not seeing much responsiveness in the better sense domain, so I know I'm taking cheap shots. Keep up the good work though, I admire your steadfastness.
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Hillary stands up for all voters!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Apr 10, 2008 6:07:47 PM

Do your homework. The document she signed stated she wouldn't campaign in MI and FL AND the delegates wouldn't be seated.

This is a primary, the DNC can make what ever rules they want. The Supreme court has ruled on this.

And for those who think Bill taking $800k and agreeing to LOBBY CONGRESS on CAFTA won't effect her decisions is highly deluded.

The Clintons are crooks, selling us ALL out.

Posted by: Len in WA | Apr 10, 2008 6:09:05 PM

In Dec 2000 wasnt all the Democrats yelling COUNT THE VOTES, now 8 years later the Democratic party is disenfranchising 2.5 million voters because of RULZ.

Posted by: toby | Apr 10, 2008 6:09:21 PM

i am a yellow dog democrat but this year if obama is the nominee, i vote mccain. obama frightens this white man and his ferocious wife scares the heck out of me.

mccain wins and we democrats shoot ourselves in the foot again by nominating the most difficult to elect in a national campaign: a woman and an african american.

Posted by: ron | Apr 10, 2008 6:09:47 PM

Travis

Maybe that's a politically correct post but it still shows your bias. A few facts would be needed if you want to make a valid point. No assertions, please.

Posted by: Surelock Homes | Apr 10, 2008 6:10:07 PM

svsolis, understand the facts.

Obama requested permission to run a national ad. Obama received approval to run that national ad. That 'national' ad was =gasp= national, so therefore it was run in every state!

Running a national ad and campaigning physically in the state....that which he pledged NOT to do in the states of MI and FL, just as hillary pledged not to do....are two entirely different things.

Obama was not permitted to campaign in MI and FL.

I say give the shrill the FL win, just because all names were on the ballot (oh yeah, that's fair). And I say do a 50/50 split on MI (yeah, this one was fair too). Maybe they should just strip the superdelegates who may have had anything to do with this mess, and then call it a day.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | Apr 10, 2008 6:13:27 PM

Len - the pledge does not state the candidates agree to not seating the delegates... it says they agree not to campaign... I guess you ignore the truth in that both Obama and Clinton stated in 2007 that the MI and FL delegates should be seated at the convention and both would ask for it at that time. The court challenges are ongoing... the credentials committee has yet to decide and Dean has already indicated that at least FL will be seated and has reserved hotel rooms for its delegates... it is always a good idea to do your own research and filter through all the BS of blogs and the MSM.

Posted by: DCVoter | Apr 10, 2008 6:14:26 PM

I'm sorry to hear you're frightened ron, how sad.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | Apr 10, 2008 6:14:53 PM

Good for you Hillary. It is about time the Democratic Party understands that they cannot violate the rights of the Michigan and Florida voters because of the rules of the Party. Obama did campaign in FL and lost. But as we all know he does not want the Florida and Michigan votes counted because he CAN ONLY WIN BY DEFAULT. Hillary is ahead in most of the states where primaries are going to be run as well as in Puerto Rico. The Democratic Party knows that the people went out to vote and did vote. So, for real purposes, those votes need to be counted because in the real elections those people are real people that will emit real votes and if the party does not count the votes according to the voter's wishes (versus Obama's wishes) the Florida and Michigan voters are going to be very angry. Are any of the bloggers here supporting Obama from Michigan or Florida? If you are, you do not care to count the votes because Obama wins by not counting the votes. So do Obama care about the voters and their wishes or he only cares about his convenience?

Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | Apr 10, 2008 6:16:17 PM

Anyone notice that Clinton picked up three more superdelegates over the past week??

Posted by: Sparkie | Apr 10, 2008 6:18:16 PM

BKMC i do not expect you to agree-but the facts are women get paid less promoted less and fundamentally are at a disadvantage not only in the workforce but in society at large. yes we do need to have that discussion-even if it makes you uncomfortable. i also noticed that in your post you use the term we instead of i -suggesting perhaps that you believe you speak for all men-thanks for making my point.

Posted by: sonia trevino | Apr 10, 2008 6:19:14 PM

Can she just switch parties - from Democrat to Republican - Please!

Posted by: latinovoter1 | Apr 10, 2008 6:19:44 PM

WestCoastMessanger and DCVoter read my email to sonio trevino and you will understand why Hill the Bosnian General is unelectable and sure polls will say the same. By the way, McCain is also unelectable because he still does not know after 8 visits to Irak the difference between shia and sunni, Al Qaeda and Iran. Who will give the responsibility to that person to be commander in chief? Wait when Hill will decide to drop out because she cannot win then there will be a surge in the polls for Obama and a strong one which is different from McCain's military surge in Irak. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.

Posted by: BKMC | Apr 10, 2008 6:21:15 PM

A vote for Obama is a vote for Pelosi.

Obama doesn't have the strength or power base to exert pressure over this woman. She, for better or for worse, can think on her feet. Obama needs somebody to tell him what to think.

Posted by: S | Apr 10, 2008 6:21:17 PM

I have a real problem with Clinton's story about being fired upon when entering a country. She said it was a mix-up. My question is: When was she ever in a situation where bullets were flying? If there was an error and she got the time and place mixed up, then tell me when it actually DID happen. Make sure it can be verified beyond just your lapdogs, too. It is one thing to make a mis-statement, it is another to blatently lie. I think that we have seen during this campaign that she will say and do anything to win. To come out and say that she will withdraw troops from Iraq in 60 days, no matter what, is insane. She cannot know what might happen that might mean that the troops would have to stay and be withdrawn at a much slower pace. However, to try to look like the major anti-war candidate, she is willing to make these overarching statments that either she might not be able to carry out, and thus would be a liar about, or that she would be willing to carry out no matter the damage it might do to the country. She is a scary, scary woman. I am a woman and I am ready, willing and able to vote for a woman for president. However, it can't just be a woman for a woman's sake. It has to be someone with integrity and substance. That is certainly not Clinton.

Posted by: Saywhat? | Apr 10, 2008 6:21:25 PM

LA - the MI certified election results clearly indicate Obama got no more than 40% of the vote. The undecided vote of 40% were Obama, Edwards, Biden, and Richardson supporters. Clinton is being generous by agreeing to give him 40%. Awarding him 50% is unfair to the voters and would be a fixed election result.

Clearly you are not much of an American and are being sexist with your language against Senator Clinton who is also one of the most active and respected First Lady's in our history. She is a true humanitarian respected worldwide. Obviously, you do not recognize that but be an American and show some respect please.

Posted by: DCVoter | Apr 10, 2008 6:23:36 PM

Every voter has his/her own right to vote for what he/she believe in...

Passion to his/her candidate is well admired and it proves a lot of people like to involve the democracy.....

Whether obama can win the majority of American, the Penn will be a good test. If he can win, he will be next president. If he can't, then it just proves he can't get enough white votes to support him...

When Obama faces Reps, it will be worse because the race issue will definitely be one of dominant issues to him....Not mentioning his least experience...

Posted by: True Truth | Apr 10, 2008 6:24:12 PM

How can a party that has as its name Democratic, not count the votes of all those who are members! The basic premise of a democracy is the right to vote and the right of those votes to be counted. No canidate or committee can negotiate away a basic democratic right, and if they do what person of conscience would not protest such a decesion. I know I can hear the yelling rules are rules, well I think there were rules against black men driking at the same foutain,eating at the same resturant,and going to the same schools as whites. It was the law and everything was done proper and all was legal! Well when people of conscince stood up and said that no law can deny man his fundamental right to freedom then those laws were overturned and peoples rights were restored! I don't care if those votes help Hillary or Obama they should and must be counted who wants to be on the side of disinfranchising millions of people,and who should be elected if they do?

So just to say its right does not mean it is right! Remember the movie Cool Hand Luke? When the guard went to lock Luke up to keep him from running away to his mothers furneral, the gurard says" Luke I am just doing my job you have to appreciate that." Luke says " just because you say its your job don't make it right boss". So just because Obama and others do not want to count the votes does not make it right!

Posted by: russell | Apr 10, 2008 6:25:49 PM

She is losing it.

Posted by: Bob, DC | Apr 10, 2008 6:26:24 PM

Nothing will happen with FL and MI until after all the other states, who followed the rules, have finished voting.

Posted by: Bob, DC | Apr 10, 2008 6:29:08 PM

Obama did NOT campaign in FL.

That is a lie, period. Running a national ad is not the same as campaigning in that state.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | Apr 10, 2008 6:29:44 PM

POOR BABY>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Posted by: h | Apr 10, 2008 6:30:03 PM

sonio trevino, nobody will accept that for the same job there are 2 salary scales, that is discrimination and should be dismantled and that is exactely what Obama will be doing when elected president and you know that McCain will not do it. The term "we" is used to avoid arrogance and being egocentric . Hill the Bosnian General is using the term 'I" and our candidate Obama is using the term "we" and by the way who told you that I am a man? I am a bit surprised? Sexi or color of the skin will not do it to the presidency of the US. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.

Posted by: BKMC | Apr 10, 2008 6:31:47 PM

LA in Indiana - An ad is a campaign appeal for the individual whose ad it is. Or do you somehow think all those Obama ads in PA are not for campaign purposes?

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Apr 10, 2008 6:32:31 PM

Hillary is complaining that the Dems 'can't decide what to do with Mich and Fla"?

Hello...........they already DID decide what to do and that was to strip them of their delegates. That was the decision and HILLARY agreed with it!

She needs to stop trying to change things when they don't work out the way she wants them to. The problem isn't the Dem party; it's her.

And if she wants to get upset she needs to get upset with how she's mismanaged her campaign.

Posted by: korey | Apr 10, 2008 6:33:00 PM

She can whine all the way back to the Senate with a scrunched up face.

She'll be lucky to be able to hold on to her Senate seat when up for re-election.

Most intelligent, critical thinking humans don't enjoyed being blatantly lied to. Additionally, who wants a conniving, backstabbing politician in office who can't manage her campaign and the personnel within it?

If this is experience, then let's stay in kindergarten.

Posted by: Common Sense | Apr 10, 2008 6:33:21 PM

WCM - thanks and dont sweat it. We all fight our battles in different ways. The latest polls are projecting strong Clinton wins in PA and IN. Head to head matchups clearly show Obama losing support among likely voters in both parties... particularly among white males and now females that used to support him. Will the wins be landslides? I doubt it but even a slight loss by Clinton after being outspent 4 to 1 is a clear indication half the country still supports Clinton in the states that produce electoral wins. This is what a lot of Obama supporters dont understand. (It's not their fault they are young and unclear how electoral races work.) Only when the voters in general of all demographics take the time to educate themselves and fight against the RNC machine will the people take this country back from the control of the right wing of the Republican Party.

Posted by: DCVoter | Apr 10, 2008 6:34:50 PM

It is totally sad that hillary has turned her 'base' into liars. She has you spewing that crap like its truth. If she was telling the truth I know more women would be voting for her, but they're not, because she's a carpetbagging liar. And that is why if she does somehow become the nominee, she will lose. Two-way street guys.
Understand that over half the country does not want the clinton(s) back in the white house.
bill destroyed the integrity by playing with cigars and monica. We got stuck with bush because of it.
And now he wants to go back???

lol No.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | Apr 10, 2008 6:35:50 PM

She should be kissing Rush Limbaugh's feet and thank him for helping her barely scrape by in Texas and Ohio.

Otherwise, she would have been toast in Texas.

Posted by: Common Sense | Apr 10, 2008 6:36:32 PM

She agree not to campaign in FL and MI. She didn't agree to disenfranchise them.

Further, the Obama campaign opposed revote proposals that had been approved by the DNC. THAT is undemocratic and frankly, un-American.

Posted by: EP | Apr 10, 2008 6:37:30 PM

c'mon dog....I thought at least YOU had some common sense.

Obama has physically spent time in PA hasn't he. Bus Tour, townhalls, rallys....now that is campaigning. Not just running a national ad and not letting the people get to meet you face to face.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | Apr 10, 2008 6:37:32 PM

The difference between the Clinton and Obama supporters is that Obama supporters are always acting like they are entitled to this nomination, for one reason or another. This arrogance will damn his campaign if he ends up running against McCain.

Posted by: Mary Lou | Apr 10, 2008 6:41:21 PM

Is there anything or anyone that Hillary won't criticize? So far she has criticized:

Obama
Bush
McCain
Democratic Party
Republican Party
The Media
The Voters
DNC
Caucuses

and the list goes on...

I've never seen anyone so negative about anything and everything. Is everything Hillary encounters in life so deserving of attack? I wish she had a rational side that would allow her to judiciously open her mouth without spewing hate and criticism. The negativity defines her. When she loses a state primary, she doesn't even thank the state's voters during her stump speech elsewhere that night. Those folks worked hard for her, and then she acts like the primary never happened, or they are a small state, so what? It's pathetic!

Posted by: rco | Apr 10, 2008 6:42:56 PM

Look at what the experience Hillary claims has gotten her into:

Blatant lies
Mismanagement of campaign funds
8 Campaign slogans
Stories she repeats without confirmation
Lots of Duncan Donuts

She couldn't be president of the local PTA, let alone President of the United States.

She needs another 35 years of "experience" to confirm it as real experience.

Posted by: Common Sense | Apr 10, 2008 6:43:10 PM

I've noticed on several occasions that Senator Clinton bursts into laughter when confronted with a question she doesn't want to answer. She did it twice in this interview over the Columbia trade deal. Imagine her doing that when sitting across the table from a foreign head of state.

Posted by: chicagobama | Apr 10, 2008 6:43:28 PM

Hillary is trying to Change Today's Conversation with last month's News. Of course the subject remains the same "Lies". Michigan and Florida should be stripped of their delegates and now they shouldn't. This fits right in with the rash of current Lies we have had to endure from her. I guess this rehash of an old Lie is Miss Remembering a Miss Spoken Miss Step.

Posted by: Fareed | Apr 10, 2008 6:43:54 PM

But Obama has come up with a resolution for those votes but unless they favor Clinton she won't agree..yada yada yada agian we have to listen to this twisting of the truth.
She diesnfranchises those voters then demands they count then demands they count for her or not at all...anyone see a pattern here that would get a normal person locked up for being crazy?
As for Columbioa and the 800 thousand? IF she means it then let her give that money to a charity.....won't happen but hey, her supporters will ignore these facts while they take this country further into debt and disgrace the world over. Hillary is a laughing stock everywhere but here to the women who see their own failures in her actions of clawing their way out of their own mess.

Posted by: Brian | Apr 10, 2008 6:44:09 PM

LA in Indiana - So you are awake? Aren't you supposed to be out there defending my butt or something? Instead you're lying around in bed beating on the Hillary heroes! For shame! For shame!

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Apr 10, 2008 6:44:33 PM

West Coast Mess and DC Voter are certainly showing their true colors today!!! Misstatements and lies are all you have left.

Hillary Clinton will have to win HUGE in PA and Indiana, and keep other races close to even have a prayer of stealing the election.

She'll have to win HUGE in all or most of ALL the remaining contests to be able to have a legitimate shot at the nomination.

Neither scenario is likely at this point.

Well, West Coast Mess, at least we'll know what side you're on -- even if McCain doesn't have a chance in hell!!!

Obama 2008 -- Yes, WE CAN!!!

Posted by: Jackt51 -- Vietnam Vet and Proud Liberal | Apr 10, 2008 6:44:58 PM

Right now, I would vote for Obama--yes, that is right dogsoldier--I said Obama. I don't believe that the Pope told JFK how to run the country and I don't believe that Obama is a terrorist in disguise. However, I do think that the tactic used by those who are like you, dogsoldier, does shame our country. If anyone is going to bring our country to ruins, to destroy what we actually have striven to stand for for over 200 years, it is people like you. I wonder every time I see a posting like yours if you are actually someone who hates America, over in Iraq or Colombia or China or even here in the US, and by preying on our weakness and prejudices you are trying to pull us down to your level. You are not what America is about. You are what we need to move beyond.

Posted by: Saywhat? | Apr 10, 2008 6:47:01 PM

DCVoter - Well, they are on Obama juice so its hard for them to realize the world extends beyond their dormrooms.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Apr 10, 2008 6:47:08 PM

Remember fellow posters......

Dogsoldier is an avid pessimist. He knows no hope and prefers to be in the abyss of doom.

West Coast Whatever is on the same team and both are like vultures flying over looking for something to land on and stick those ugly bald heads into.

They're posts are quite entertaining. Just remember that. No serious posts.

Posted by: Common Sense | Apr 10, 2008 6:48:18 PM

Saywhat? - So, where is beyond? Please describe.

Posted by: Dogsoldier | Apr 10, 2008 6:48:39 PM

"...she should run as an independent. Bet the DNC know it alls would not like that!"

Great idea; it will just make it easier for Obama to win. Obama will keep his base. She will keep her base. McCain will keep the Bush 30 percent. The bulk of the rest can be moved by Obama with his excellent political skills and grassroots campaigning. I hope so, please do it Hillary!!!

Posted by: Sidmore | Apr 10, 2008 6:49:24 PM

Obama won 12 states in a row, (where they BOTH campaigned) and I know that is eating you hillary supporters alive.

She is the establishment machine, yet she is behind, and you attempt to belittle Obama's campaign???

ctfu y'all need help!

Posted by: LA in Indiana | Apr 10, 2008 6:49:53 PM

PLEASE RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT HILLARY!

So you can place last among 3.

Posted by: Common Sense | Apr 10, 2008 6:52:46 PM

La in Indiana: If the Democratic party is through with counting peoples votes then I am through with them! You know for a fact if Obama wated those votes to count Jesse Jackson would be down in Fl. taking to the streets, demanding that they be counted! Instead he and Al Sharpton have been down there doing everything they can to deny them! I may have fell off the turnip truck, but I did not fall off it yesterday!

Posted by: russell | Apr 10, 2008 6:53:02 PM

sure enough dog

that's life!

Posted by: LA in Indiana | Apr 10, 2008 6:56:34 PM

It is so ironic that Obama supporters claim to be so smart and when they run out of ideas they resort to calling people names like childern in a school yard! So much for that myth!

Posted by: russell | Apr 10, 2008 6:57:18 PM

My goodness what a whiner! I sure hope she doesn't do another teary-eyed thing, that was so over the top...but she did try to pinch a tear for the camers during the Martin Luther Kind speech. The Clintons are liars, cheats, and biggots.

Posted by: would like some whine with your cheese | Apr 10, 2008 6:57:25 PM

dos ayone know why she still has Harold Ickes as her senior advisor when he VOTED to strip Fla. and Mich. of their delegates?
I could not comprehend why she has him on her team? She is the first one screaming they should count. I woud be firing his can.

Posted by: lauren | Apr 10, 2008 6:57:37 PM

Hillary along with the other candidates agreed that MI and FL wouldn't count for not following the rules.

Now she is manipulating the situation for all she is worth to see how she can twist it to her favor. I wish the DNC would come up with something so we can quit hearing Hillary say she is fighting to the death. She only cares because she believes it might help her.

Counting MI when Obama wasn't even on the ballot would be the height of cheating.