as a democrat u know u can't win in November, WHEN IT COUNTS THE MOST
with out FLORIDA and PENNSYLVANIA

FL AND PA
are identical demographically speaking.
Who is more likely to win FL and all the other big states?

That should be the dem nom, it's our strongest candidate.

Super dels hang thier hats on Hillary WINNING the total vote and the fact that

Barack will be painted quite easily as less than american - wright, rezco, ayers, dohrn, farrakhan, HAMAS in the church bulletin, and the list goes on...

That's why Hillary won't quit and why the superdelegates haven't put Barack Over the Top

Count You Pastor

Scoreboard. Hills is Hopelessly Behind.

She gotta win big today by +300,000 votes or its Fork Time, brotha.

This leectibility argument is funny. It assumes that Superdelegates will overturn the will of voters and hand this nomination to a candidate whose only claim to victory is a subjective argument about being MORE electible. That will have to the a FIRST in our nation's history. Clinton is a fool. She needs to begin to rack up victories in the types of margin that will enable her to EARN this nomination. If she cannot do that, then she should drop out of the race instead of damaging the candidate that seems to have an insurmountable lead.

Again Kevin.

Most of Obamas 'delegates' are directly from red states he cant win in November.

Winning the general election is KINDA IMPORTANT you know.

After today, Obama will actually TRAIL Clinton in delegates from primaries.

Can a republican candidate say 'see!!! I won california and new york in the primary ! as rationalle that he can win the general election?

Not a chance.

And if you think this election will be stolen from Obama and Clinton will win the Presidency without the black vote, you need to have a doctor examine your sanity. If Clinton wins this nomination unfairly, she WILL have no SHOT of winning in November. NO SHOT. If she wins it fairly, well, good for her. She will have my vote.

Name a state that republicans and democrats have a fairly equal chance of winning that OBAMA has won?

Missouri with its big 8 electorial votes? He won by LESS than 1% at the 11th hour ?

Obama is UNELECTABLE .

Your agrument that Obama got millions of votes is kinda tarnished since he had an outright MESSIAH MEDIA SHIELD that he doesnt have anymore.

Hey Kevin.

Your arguments are weak. Do the HOMEWORK FIRST.

- John Kerry won 88% of the african american vote in 2004 against bush NATIONWIDE.

-John Kerry LOST every single african amercan state.

So african americans voting for Obama or not voting for Obama MAKES NO DIFFERENCE IN THE SLIGHTEST.

SD is designed to select the best candidate for the party to win over W.H....especially when the neither candidate has enough delegates by rule to officially seal the nomination...

So please don't crown yourself whithout putting your clothes..

tomdavie

You have a math problem. The issue is not what percentage of African American votes you win. The question is, what will be the African American turnout? If the African American turn-out drops by 30%, democrats will lose every single big state witht he possible exception of California. Do you think a Democrat will win the Presidency after losing New York and New Jersey?

African Americans make up more than 20% of the democratic electorate in New York. Clinton is currently leading Mccain by low double digits. if that 20% stay home, you do the math. Worse still, what if they cross over to Mccain? That will be a more than 20-point swing his way. What about swing states like pennsylvania where blacks make up almost 20% of the Democratic electorate? What about Ohio? What about Wisconsin? Florida? Look, the Democrats will not WIN a single state without black support. THIS IS A FACT.

TomDavie

Scoreboard. One Candidate is winning the lected delegates, and the Other Candidate can't catch up.

As far as your other ideas about the african american vote being unimportant to ol Hills in the Generalif she manages to swipe the nomination at convention ..... she won't win FL, MI, or PA without it. Which all makes her unelectable if she royally ###### of the party's base.

If Hillary wins Penn today, the Dems primary fight will go all the way to convention until MI and FL issues are resolved and satisfied by all the people. Otherwise, Dems will not be united and will be defeated in Nov...

Too bad, the fight will go on.....

Of course we haven't even mentioend young people, or single women that are leaning Obama,. Or white, educated liberal. What about the party activists who are champions at grassroots campaigning? People like me. We are the foot soldiers. We are the rockt hat hold this miserable party together. People are looking at this thing in one direction. Right now the Obama people are not angry like the Clinton people, who are mad because they are losing. But if the possibility even surfaces that Obama might lose unfairly, watch Clinton's numbers against McCain hit the toilet. I, personally, will campaign for McCain just to send a message to the bigots that must have hijacked the Democratic party for Clinton to win.

AA will vote for whoever Dems' nominee is because they have no other choice...They can't afford to betray Dems party...

Blue is still blue, and red is still red..

Key is who can win over the purple ones?

Didn't John Kerry win Wisconsin by less than 10,000 votes. I bet he gotta lottta support from african americans.

There are always anti-Clintons or pro-clintons people out there....

This Dems nomination fight is just simply all about Clintons... Obama is just a Puppet used by anti-clintons...

People know Obama is just a typical black politican who is dreaming of being a president...

That is just simply true....

Obama admitted himself that McCain is better than Bush...

So question to Obama, why will people not vote for McCain other than you since you are still a big unknown and in-experienced to Americans?

Can Americans afford to gamble another 4 years??

Truth

Just about everyone is better than Bush.

Maybe even you.

TCG,

Wish Americans won't be too stupid again to vote another Bush (Dems version) this time..

One of the mostly pasted over issues of the primary race today. What will be the effect of the large number of Republicans that registered as Democrats so they can influence the vote specifically in this primary. Which candidate have they been told to vote for?

Truth

I agree we don't need another Bush. The Presidency should not be inherited by virtue of one last name and family connections.

Beka13,

One correction: it is not Clinton dumping AA, it is AA betrayed Clintons for their American Idol...

Remember Clinton used to be claimed as "first black president" by AA themselves...

Truth

Ability and experience are fine factors to use.

Monumentally screwing up HillaryCare doomed many people to the mercy of an HMO or worse. We can use experience and ability to judge the candidates here.

Truth

It was Bill that had the nickname, not Hills.

Maybe she thought she was entitled to inherit their support.

TCG,

If you look at the voting record by AA this primary, almost 9 to 1 for their half-brother Obama...

Even some Black AA SD's used to endorse Clinton in the beginning betrayed Clinton for only reason that they have to vote for black like his/her districts... It is undeniable AA have voted for skin nothing else...

Truth

Don't understand. Betrayed. Sounds like more entitlement Talk.