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Clinton Rips Media's 'Double Standard'
April 08, 2008 6:47 PM
ABC News' Teddy Davis Reports: Asked about press accusations that the only way she can win is if she's "willing to win ugly," Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., told NPR's "All Things Considered" on Tuesday that she has faced "something of a double standard" throughout her presidential bid.
"Senator, I want you to react to something that I keep hearing among voters, and increasingly among people who cover the campaign -- both those who are reporters and those who speak about the campaign on television, on radio -- the statement that the only way that Hillary Clinton can win is if she’s willing to win ugly," NPR's Michele Norris told Clinton.
"When you hear that," Norris continued, "what does that mean to you? How do you react to that?"
"Well, I don't know what it means because there is no way for Senator Obama to win unless he also obtains a significant number of superdelegates," said Clinton. "I understand that there has been, throughout this campaign, something of a double standard. I accept it; I live with it."
Asked what the double standard is, Clinton at first demurred.
"Well, I think that it's pretty obvious to anybody who has followed it," said Clinton.
When Norris followed-up again, saying, "Just in case it's not clear to someone, I don’t want to assume. I just want you to tell me what you think the double standard is because I don't want to assume," Clinton unloaded.
"No, but you know – for example, why is the question directed at me?" she said. "I mean, neither of us has the number of delegates to win. It is a problem for both of us. And Senator Obama's supporters refuse to support a revote in Michigan, which I thought was rather odd for the Democratic Party to be against another vote. Senator Obama's supporters wanted to end this contest and short circuit it so that the votes of the people in the next upcoming contest wouldn't count because he has a slight lead. And it's by no means definitive. It would have been like calling the championship game last night with two minutes left to go because somebody was ahead. And that’s not how it turned out."
Audio of Clinton's interview is available on NPR's website.
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Clinton keeps touting double standards because it allows her to rewrite the rules constantly change her strategy. She will win at all cost regardless what it will do to the Democratic party.
On one hand she states the people should decide by voting, but then switches to acknowlege that the super delegats will decide, and that the delegates should decide whom they think will be the best candidate regardless os what the popular vote will be.
If they way she runs her campaign is a sign of how she would run the country that is something the US does not need.
Posted by: michelle | Apr 8, 2008 6:59:01 PM
How is the following, then, not a double standard... HRC told all who would listen that the nominee would be chosen after Super Duper Tsunami Tuesday of 5th Feb. What about disenfranchising all the voters who were going to vote after that??? Typical Clinton doublespeak.
Posted by: Martin | Apr 8, 2008 6:59:44 PM
I think the title of this is misleading. Senator Clinton did not "rip" anyone, but boy could she if she wanted to.
She happens to be right about this. Neither one of them has enough votes to win and can't without supers. Sen. Obama's lead is very small, why doesn't the media ask him how he can win?
Sen. Obama is playing VERY UGLY politics and has been for sometime. Witness another surrogates comments about Senator McCain today. This stuff happens week after week but the media gives him a free pass.
Maybe the voters are getting ahead of the media - look at the new SurveyUSA poll out today in PA - Clinton up by 18. Survey USA poll in NC - Clinton down by 10 when she has been down by 22 or 23. I am NOT cherry picking polls. If anyone who reads this knows anything about polls SUSA has been the most accurate this election save Missouri.
Posted by: Kris | Apr 8, 2008 7:00:52 PM
What is she talking about? She is not making any sense anymore. She's ranting and raving and whining about everything now. Oh, no, she's gonna start crying soon... Poor, poor commander-in-chief wannabe.
Posted by: Adi | Apr 8, 2008 7:03:16 PM
Hillary is not getting it, again. People are telling her to get out of the race because she is behind in popular votes, delegates, and number of states won and there is no way in hell she'll be able to make up for it in the remaining races. Come on, Hillary, this is not a double standard; it's the reality. I know, the Clintons have issues with reality but some people are really good at seeing things for what they are and they just won't stop.
Posted by: mabs | Apr 8, 2008 7:07:29 PM
Hillabeans: Do you want some cheese with that whine?!
And, Kris, you are certainly cherry picking polls! Polls continue to trend single digits for Clinton in PA and high teens to low twenties for Obama in NC. And PA polls are generally trending downward. Who knows where things will be at the end of next week, after the PA Debate. Could easily be an Obama win -- nail in the coffin, that!
Obama 2008 -- Yes, WE CAN!!!
Posted by: Jackt51 | Apr 8, 2008 7:12:29 PM
Well when 30million of us vote for MCcain you will get it what the double standard is.
Posted by: Bishop | Apr 8, 2008 7:12:36 PM
Obama gets constantly bashed by Hannity and Combes, Karl Rove, and other jerks - He's not complaining!
Posted by: Sherrie | Apr 8, 2008 7:12:55 PM
I detest Bill and Hillary Clinton. But, I do have to admit, she is getting the short straw in media coverage. So much is out there about Obama that isn't being reported. So very much.
But at least Hillary is staying in and, in so doing, is shredding the party. Good news for people who care about issues rather than assertions.
Posted by: Surelock Homes | Apr 8, 2008 7:15:55 PM
To bad must of her supporters not just think but know there is a double standard new susa poll clinton up by double digits over Obama.
Posted by: Bishop | Apr 8, 2008 7:16:31 PM
Whether Jimmy Carter in 1976 and Hillary or Obama in 2008, I don't see the difference in any of these three presidential candidates. If we elect a Dem in 2008 we'll be in the same mess in 2012 as we were in 1980. I still remember 20% interest rates, the 400 some American hostages in Iran, and America the laughing stalk of two-bit dictators all around the world.
Posted by: Jeff Jorgensen | Apr 8, 2008 7:19:07 PM
Hillary,
Please continue to stand up for all the voters. Obama has not lifted a finger for Michigan or Florida voters. We know that you care about all Democrats.
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Obama needs to apologize for Rockefeller's statements!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | Apr 8, 2008 7:19:08 PM
The double standard is if Obama had lost 11 straight contests EVERYONE would be yelling for him to get out. Instead everyone gave Hillary the benefit of the doubt and said it was ok for her to continue.
Posted by: Rob, Indianapolis, IN | Apr 8, 2008 7:19:34 PM
See like Gorgon said, Hill and Bill need an enemy to run against. This way you can decry the unfairness, generate sympathy AND avoid talking about what you believe in.
And it is all important to avoid talking about who you are and what you stand for.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | Apr 8, 2008 7:22:34 PM
I just saw Obama questioning General Petraeus. His stance on Iraq sure has changed. He's sounding more and more like McCain. I wonder why his followers aren't noticing that he's abandoning them.
Meanwhile, Hillary looks like she'd been rode hard and put away wet.
Posted by: S | Apr 8, 2008 7:22:49 PM
Actually, the multiple standards are with Hillary. She changes her math formula weekly and moves the goal posts several times each quarter.
Posted by: Sara | Apr 8, 2008 7:23:30 PM
This race is to close for any one to be trying to force some one out.
Posted by: Bishop | Apr 8, 2008 7:24:50 PM
don't talk about Obama. You folks ruled us for hundreds of years, now its our time to rule you. Don't hate, appreciate.
Posted by: power | Apr 8, 2008 7:24:50 PM
Obama or his surrogates tried to short-circuit the race....
Everyone knew neither candidates will gain enough delegates before convention....
It is undeniable fact...
So let the whole process go thru itself, and let all arguements be put on the table...
Based on all the results and arguments, people will judge who will be the best candidate for Dems.....
Please do not break the RULE and do not steal...
If you earn the title in the end, it will be yours.....That's it!!
Posted by: True Truth | Apr 8, 2008 7:25:26 PM
It makes me laugh when I hear Obama's people talking about following the rules. I do not know if they remember but Al Gore won the popular vote in the election of 2000, and he did not become Preident of the United States due to "The Rules", the electoral college, instead we got George W. Bush and look how that turned out!!
When all is said and done, and everyone has voted Hillary will have more popular votes but Obama will have more pledged delegates. Obama will end up being the Democratic Nominee because Americans are "obsessed" with rules, and the next President of the United States will be John McCain, sad, sad, sad.
Posted by: Gabriel | Apr 8, 2008 7:27:16 PM
If you continue to live in the past how can you go into the future.
Posted by: Bishop | Apr 8, 2008 7:30:41 PM
I'm sure there will be lots of studies in the future regarding the media bias and the ridiculous press coverage of this campaign...
Imagine an Axelrod campaign that constantly slanders and attacks Hillary...who is also attacked in profane ways from obama's pulpit....and the media is accusing the other side of kitchen sink tactics....I even saw Chris Mathews saying he was having a physical reaction to Obama's speeches...and Roland martin insisting he would get all Blacks to vote against hillary if she won the nomination...
You guys have to be kidding! Ask Lou Dobbs if anyone has noticed?!
And apparently the media thinks they can do what they want....the public has no right to know...just a right to be influenced by a large number of hacks. Talking Heads need to turn on the TV and look at the angry and unethical attempts to sway this election...from unacceptable language to unbelievable favoritism. These are the same people who sold us the Iraq War...and now we get Obama.
Sad thing it just might work
Posted by: Jackie | Apr 8, 2008 7:30:50 PM
They do this EVERY TIME they are down and Obama is pulling ahead...they get the PRESS to attack Obama FOR THEM, by crying BIAS!
I hope the Press doesn't fall for THIS AGAIN!
Posted by: Carl | Apr 8, 2008 7:32:27 PM
Case in point....Clinton says there is a double standard and she's used to it....Headline reads Clinton Rips Media...
Obama questions Crocker gets Iraqis and Iranians mixed up....where is the headline?
Posted by: Jackie | Apr 8, 2008 7:33:00 PM
I love Hill to death, but one must wonder why is it that when she is asked a direct question about her thoughts and choices on certain topics, that she throws in Sen. Obama?
Posted by: Sally | Apr 8, 2008 7:34:43 PM
Sure looks like Penn's PR firm has some folks posting HERE! Planting ALL KINDS of filthy seeds. Disgusting.
Posted by: Carl | Apr 8, 2008 7:35:01 PM
I agree democrats have only 1 shot at the white house Hillary
Posted by: Kevin, fl | Apr 8, 2008 7:37:24 PM
Sherrie
I agree .Fox has been bashing him left and right. But if you listen they were pumping her up early on. Es. after Mitt and Guillinni dropped out. Hanniety wants the Republican to go after Hillary ..He knows the republican party will draw even with Hill voting for the war. If Barack wins he has that over McCain
Posted by: Lauren | Apr 8, 2008 7:40:49 PM
This much is evident: the supposed disagreement between Sen. Clinton and Former President Clinton on both the Colombian Trade Agreement and urging President Bush to boycott the opening ceremonies in Beijing are politcally convenient maneuvers to illustrate the plausibility that Sen. Clinton actually opposed NAFTA while she was activelly petitioning for its safe passage. The problem Sen. Clinton faces in her fading presidential bid is that after 7 years of Bush, Americans are no longer as ignorant about the candidates as she needs them to be.
Posted by: H. Aslan Aslani-Far | Apr 8, 2008 7:42:23 PM
Sherrie -- be honest now. Do you really watch FOX news that much? Why would a FOX-hater do so? Or maybe, you're just making his up.
Posted by: Aston | Apr 8, 2008 7:43:44 PM
LOL
Obama has been the ugliest, low life candidate I have even seen in a presidential election. Is it OK for him to do dirty tricks but no one else?
What a double standard.
Clinton would be winning, if it was not for the DNC and Democratic powers playing God and political fixers. Denying Florida and Michigan their right to vote. Swaying delegates by using their powers and whatever other pressures they applied.
Obama has used every dirty trick in the book so far. He probably made some up on his own.
Is it ok for him because he is a man or because he is Black?
He has cast blame, mislead, spewed mis truths and leaked lies.
He has demanded records to be released and when nothing came of them, he is demanding more records (since that is what got him his US Senate seat with no competition).
He has played games with foreign governments to play political games for a vote.
He has Lied to the American people over and over again.
He has lied on or about his best friends, his own family.
He has taken a God Damn American comment and called America Racist. When he should of been calling for and giving a Patriotism then.
He Stands up for and forgives The man who condemns The United States. But he continues to blame you for being racist and blames you for slavery.
Today he did not care about the people of Iraq, the government of Iraq, he only cared about a day to pull out, and the cost.
No one can catch up to low life ugly political tricks when it comes to Obama he owns the market on that one.
Posted by: seah | Apr 8, 2008 7:46:07 PM
If it had not been set up from the begining maybe people would not be so mad.Fl. and MI Dean knew that Clinton would win them why should we count IA. and SC they went ahead to. and NH and NV
Posted by: Bishop | Apr 8, 2008 7:46:09 PM
Bishop
Get your facts straight. IA, SC, NH and NV did not overstep the limits. Or do you even know what those voting limits were? (I thought not)
Posted by: Aston | Apr 8, 2008 7:49:16 PM
I understand that there has been, throughout this campaign, something of a double standard. I accept it; I live with it."
The double standard exists when you try to move the goal posts.
When you offer the runner up second fiddle. When you tout Shame on you Barack, when in reality you are doing the same thing.
Selling out the Party with Pumping up McCain.
In the begging delegates count when your behind they don't have to be loyal to the voters. I want you to say to those who support you , You can leave my side and switch to Barack if you want...But we all know you would never say that.
You would be shaming him if he was to do that.
Knowing Fla. and Mich. wont count . You seemed okay in the beginning with that . But your behind now we are disenfranchising the votes, If they voted for Obama you would not be saying this.
That is your Double Standard
Posted by: Lauren | Apr 8, 2008 7:49:52 PM
Yesterday, Obama again said he would talk to Iran. Of course, in typical Obama style, he mentioned nothing about what he would say. But, what more would one expect from a left-wing puppet?
Posted by: Surelock Homes | Apr 8, 2008 7:51:47 PM
Well rip is wrong. But would you rather read the words.
Clinton whines about Media's Double Standard?
Posted by: Lauren | Apr 8, 2008 7:53:06 PM
Just for the sake of argument SEAH, I see you say that he has used dirty tricks during his campaign, however you have failed to list any examples. Do you have any substance to back up your argument?
Posted by: Sally | Apr 8, 2008 7:53:43 PM
Why bother to interview the woman when she doesn't answer a single question?
So what IS the double standard Hillary?
You still want to claim it's harder to be a rich white woman than a black in America?
Posted by: Pundit | Apr 8, 2008 7:55:09 PM
Mabs: Obama can't win without superdelegates, the same as Hillary!
Posted by: russell | Apr 8, 2008 7:55:10 PM
Apparently not, can you point out something that I can read to find this valuable info? ASTON
Posted by: Sally | Apr 8, 2008 7:56:40 PM
.6 of a percent is hardly a "lead".
As of today:
47.0 Percent voted for Hillary
47.6 Percent voted for Obama
Obviously there IS a double standard.
Hillary gets the negative press
Obama gets the positive press, even when it is about something negative.
Either way, ONE of them better win in November.
Posted by: mwf | Apr 8, 2008 7:56:54 PM
For Hillary: Obama will not win PA,Oh,Fl in the general election! He can not win working class voters and is a sure loser, why shouldn't the superdelegates pick someone who can win in November against McCain! If it's Obama v. McCain, we might as well start calling McCain Mr.President, why wait!
Posted by: russell | Apr 8, 2008 7:59:25 PM
No one will seal the nomination without the help of SD...That is the fact..
Obama can convince SD to pick him based on his lead on delegates and states, maybe popular votes (still questionable)...
Hillary can convince SD to choose her based on her wins on the most big blue states and electability...
It is a fair game and everyone is entitled to present their best case to seal the seal...
So please be fair and be patient...
Posted by: True Truth | Apr 8, 2008 8:00:08 PM
No one will seal the nomination without the help of SD...That is the fact..
Obama can convince SD to pick him based on his lead on delegates and states, maybe popular votes (still questionable)...
Hillary can convince SD to choose her based on her wins on the most big blue states and electability...
It is a fair game and everyone is entitled to present their best case to seal the deal...
So please be fair and be patient...
Posted by: True Truth | Apr 8, 2008 8:00:45 PM
Everything in this campaign has been double standard when it comes to Sen. Obama....media coverage, calls to drop out of the race, misinterpreted words, supposed racist remarks, misspeaks, surrogate gaffes, etc. If Clinton does something that can be twisted around, it is highlighted every way possible in the media. If Obama scratches his nose, it is headlined as inspiring and historical. Everything is a positive for him. Information that should be put out in the media are either ignored or passed over quickly, usually substituted for more anti Clinton garbage. I see today the health care story she was being ripped apart for is actually being reported as true now. Do we see any apologies or retractions from the media pundits who were so eager to jump on the story as another negative? I doubt we will. She should stay in this race until there is a vote that definitely chooses a nominee. Hope springs eternal, and there are a lot of people who HOPE the last 10 primaries can turn things around. Hillary was and still is the best qualified candidate for President. Obama needs to go home to Illinois, do what he promised to do (serve out at least 1 term as U.S. Senator) and do his homework on how to actually present his plans for solving problems instead of parroting Hillary's plans and writing more glorious speeches.
Posted by: Deb | Apr 8, 2008 8:04:24 PM
Super delegates will not over turn the wll of the people . You can keep on saying red states blue states. Its the People to whom the super represent.
They will not overturn. Their futures depend on the Party=Party depends on the People.
Posted by: Lauren | Apr 8, 2008 8:06:40 PM
Well why not just wait and see what happens why the rush for her to get out and the double standard is get out get out we have every right to have are candidate in every primary its not like she is behind 600 like kennedy was in 1980 when he took it to the floor
Posted by: Bishop | Apr 8, 2008 8:12:16 PM
WestCoastMessanger, Hill said she is vetted and there is nothing left even not the 109 million. She is wining again and may cry soon and again. If media has something to say is because of her disorganized campaign, lack of visionand leadership. Media has not created the Bosnian Snipers, the Colombian CAFTA, etc, etc. Hill the Bosnian General is doing it to herself, real self inflicted wounds. Period. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.
Posted by: BKMC | Apr 8, 2008 8:14:01 PM
She right the press says about 70% about Obama, 25% about Clinton, and
5% on McCain. There is a double standard going on here and everyone knows it. But they only have on rose colored glasses. The media is so pro-Obama it has become sicking to watch,
Posted by: Melissa | Apr 8, 2008 8:14:25 PM
This Democratic presidential primary may well turn out to be like the Kansas-Memphis NCAA championship game: Memphis 7 points ahead with 2 minutes left, but Kansas tied the game and came back to win in overtime. Amazing, but true!
Watch out for a surprise or two close to the Pennsylvania primaries and beyond.
Posted by: Ottile | Apr 8, 2008 8:21:49 PM
Oh My she had 16 years as the First Lady; 7 years as a Senator. There is no secret that erverything she has done is a run for President. She was widely belived to be the front runner for the last two years. Almost everything she said was reported on.
Now that she isn't winning, she is whinning.
If she hasn't made her case by now she never will.
Posted by: Thinking | Apr 8, 2008 8:23:13 PM
It's NOT a double standard... it is a FACT! Hilliary is behind in delegates AND popular vote, therfor she has NO claim to anything yet. How is this so difficult for people to understand? 2nd place is NOT 1st! Reguardless of one's gender or race. Get that through yer freakin' head Hilliary! Until you have a lead on something, you and Bill should SHUT UP! Enough!
Posted by: ha! | Apr 8, 2008 8:26:04 PM
manda
I think your study is pretty flawed...Obama clearly lost Texas...but his followers shouted down the other voters...signed up people who weren't there and won the causcus.
I'm from Texas and I know what happened here.
Posted by: Jackie | Apr 8, 2008 8:31:16 PM
by the looks of this I think we are past healing telling her to drop out calling her on every little thing has not set well with her supporters so we can debate all night but I think from what I am hearing it won't be a united party. Not counting votes is a big problem for the Clintons supporters.
Posted by: Bishop | Apr 8, 2008 8:33:51 PM
Here we go again. 2 weeks before a vote and she is crying double standard and dragging up MI that SHE agreed to disenfranchise. What she leaves out in that "slim" lead is she can't catch him in elected delegates or the popular vote even with FL and MI.
Same thing as before TX and Ohio when she cried but this time? I don't think it is going to work because she has done anything to win including lying time and time again.
Next up? She will try the crying jag...misty eyed..while she talks about pain...but this time? 109 million dollars stands there and he pain dosent compare to the average persons.
What a fake, no wonder her trutst is at an all time low.
Posted by: Sam | Apr 8, 2008 8:38:23 PM
Yes by cheating from what I heard from family.And strong arming voters but if Clinton says anything because she is a womwn she is crying. Texas was a sham
Posted by: Bishop | Apr 8, 2008 8:39:52 PM
Sam - Remember when much of the media was railing (with the Obama campaign) against the release of a photo (for which Barack obviously posed) of Barack in African garb taken during his trip to his late father's homeland (Kenya) a couple of years ago.
What's the problem?
Barack was fully dressed, and he posed for the photo. Publicizing such photos of presidential hopefuls is to be expected. Ask Mike (Tank Man)Dukakis and John (The Duck Hunter)Kerry.
Apparently the Obama campaign and its media allies are playing the race card, by arguing that the release of the photo to The Drudge Report is somehow racist.
Media does not publish a thing about Barack Sr. HAVING BEEN MARRIED when he "married" Barack's mother.
And, of course, not a peep about Barack's ties to Kenyan radical presidential hopeful Raila Odinga, who identified himself as Barack's cousin on his father's side and for whom Barack campaigned in Kenya after he visited Barack in the United States.
Pamela Geller, Israel National News.com, January 9, 2008: "The recent revelations of [Barack] Obama's ties to Raila Odinga in Kenya are disconcerting... because Odinga is behind the terrible violence in his country. It was he who instigated bloody riots and killing after he lost the election. Obama's bias for his fellow Luo was so blatant that a Kenyan government spokesman denounced Obama during his visit as Raila's 'stooge.' And while there are few angels in Kenya, Odinga is the source of great unrest and turmoil; and the [Memorandum of Understanding] he signed with the Muslim Council to institute sharia [Islamic law] is a foreshadowing of a dark fate for Kenya."
Great republican info here and coming to a screen near every American soon and often in the near future.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | Apr 8, 2008 8:40:55 PM
Double standard? THATS RICH!
SHE gives the media the material to report by LYING and refusing to fire Mark Penn and letting her husband off his leash and she wants to BLAME the media for reporting the events SHE sets into motion! The woman is sick.
Posted by: Sam | Apr 8, 2008 8:41:12 PM
Martin - do you understand the part about the delegate count? The part about the magic number being 2025? So if Clinton, or Obama, had 2025 the contest would be over? Disenfrancesment obviously is not at play there. That's like continuing to play Blackjack after you reach 21. When you win, you win. You are making a non-point.
Posted by: presto | Apr 8, 2008 8:44:38 PM
Uh-Oh, here we go! Next, she'll be on t.v. crying!! When she had a double digit lead in Pennsylvania, she was all smiles, now that Obama is closing the gap fast, she's panicking! So now it's fall back to my Ace in the hole--cry and complain that the Boys are beating up on poor little female me!! Really, she is disgusting, and I hope women stop buying into her theatrics! If she can't take it, get out of the race!
Posted by: getreal | Apr 8, 2008 8:46:13 PM
If Hillary had 16 years as first lady, then she would have 1 more year to go and the country would not be in the shape it is.
If Obama is really the new type of politics, he would ask each of his supporters to quit trashing the people he will need to win if he is the nominee. He won't do that, because he has this attack stratgey so that he can stay clean. It's not working, many people are begining to notice that the change party is all about negative comments. They never defend their candidates stands on issues, because the hear the word, but don't understand the actual issues.
He confuses Iraq with Iran and the criticized McCain for a similar mistake with Iraqi sects.
Posted by: Paul from Texas | Apr 8, 2008 8:46:16 PM
omentum why play the race card its not about a black president its about an unfaiar race we are just not ready to believe that are party is not going to count all the votes.
Posted by: Bishop | Apr 8, 2008 8:46:47 PM
Aston...no I saw it...the point is it's OK for Obama to attack McCain or hillary...and the media will back him up...But isn't it strange that everyone is so afraid that Hillary might attack Obama for anything...
He's allowed to calim she's a liar and have his miniter attack her from the pulpit...but she's not allowed to question his experience...
Obama has a glass jaw and everyone's afraid that Hillary might knock him out. What are they so afraid of?
Posted by: Jackie | Apr 8, 2008 8:46:49 PM
Hillary is the ONLY Democrat of any stature who is going to bat for the voters of Michigan and Florida.
If I were an uncommitted super delegate who thought that Florida was in play, I would flat out tell the Obama campaign to put up or shut up.
Florida would be very easy to assess as far as giving 1/2 votes to each delegate, and then base the representation by the number of votes each candidate received.
This 50/50 "plan" from the Obama camp is absurd.
I think if this race was really mathematically over, that Obama would not be such a stick in the mud.
But, Obama's lack of cooperation, although he will tell you just the opposite, is an indication to me that he still is concerned he could lose.
Come on Obama, step up to the plate and be a part of the solution.
This Democrat is not impressed so far.
Posted by: sherr | Apr 8, 2008 8:49:10 PM
getreal - Really? Obama can't even win the democratic primary. Us Hillary supporters are holding him in check. And that's not even counting republicans. Now, if were to lose who do you expect us to vote for?
Posted by: Dogsoldier | Apr 8, 2008 8:49:44 PM
We the Clinton supporters will not give up and will not give in. With media's favoritism, amazing fundraising outcome, backup by all the anti-war.orgs, Obama still cannot convince the other half of the democratic voters. He has already lost!
Posted by: Vickie | Apr 8, 2008 8:52:42 PM
Rob---you have your facts mixed up --Obama has won eleven straight states--not lost.
Posted by: orange cat | Apr 8, 2008 8:58:41 PM
The superdelegates will do what they think will benefit the party. This election is not just about winning the Whie House. Obama has built a much more powerful grassroots organization, because he has experience as an activist/organizer. If he is the nominee, those million-plus will hit the sidewalks campaigning not just for him, but all Democrats. Even if he fails to get the electoral votes to win, the party makes huge gains in Congress and state/local races. And has a youth movement to carry them in 2010 and 2012.
Posted by: rlpete2 | Apr 8, 2008 8:59:08 PM
omentum - Bet you can see the tire tracks from being run over so often.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | Apr 8, 2008 8:59:13 PM
In the face of losing by every measure, Clinton (and surrogates) now argue she is "leading" in states with a greater number of electoral votes--the only votes that will count in November. Frankly, her endless contortions and tortured interpretations of what "leading" means have become a source of daily amusement for me (but unfortunately a frustration for many.)
Moreover, if Clinton were genuinely concerned about voter's rights to vote (MI, FL & remaining contests), she would see the huge irony in her electoral college argument: trying to skip past the voters in the delegate-oriented primary phase and give greater weight & meaning to the electoral college "voters" of the general election phase.
So far, Clinton has not even been able to run a presidential campaign without endless controversy, countless resignations and internal acrimony. And this woman wants to be President of our country?
A wise person once said: When a person tells you who they are, BELIEVE THEM!!!
I must agree.
Posted by: M | Apr 8, 2008 8:59:31 PM
Part of the reason Clinton gets asked is not a "double standard", but because the press and the people recognize that she had all the advantages necessary to win. She racked up a huge lead in superdelegates before voting even began (a real champion of the "voice of the people"), had an enormous advantage in fundraising, party "machines" in key states, DLC backing, and a popular former President supporting her. She should have had a cake walk, even with the potential disadvantage of being a woman.
Instead, her campaign ran off the rails, ignored the caucuses and red states, treated the primary system as a coronation, and has used increasingly suspect dog-whistle politics. And people rejected her candidacy strongly enough that a freshman African American Senator without party ties has whupped her in state after state, and maintains a lead in every metric.
At this point, it is true that the only way she can win is to make Obama unelectable, but he's too popular for little missteps to mess him up. She would have to ruin him, and everyone recognizes it. If she had run a fair and friendly yet competitive campaign, she'd already have lost. And if she tries to ruin him, there's no way they can give her the nomination because more than half the party will reject her.
Posted by: Marla | Apr 8, 2008 8:59:51 PM
Why would you say we are not ready for an african American president I don't believe that. why not just say we are not ready for Obama give me colin Powell any day .
Posted by: Bishop | Apr 8, 2008 9:01:11 PM
Marla - Obama can't even win the democratic primary. Us Hillary supporters are holding him in check. And that's not even counting republicans. Now, if were to lose who do you expect us to vote for?
Posted by: Dogsoldier | Apr 8, 2008 9:01:19 PM
omentum - Is that Obama's "typical white person" grandmother?
Posted by: Dogsoldier | Apr 8, 2008 9:03:54 PM
The nomination of Senator Obama would be a huge mistake. There are things lurking in his background that will eventually come to light just as the Pastor Wright.
I believe the media has been complicit in the holding back of information to control the outcome of the primaries. That is why they were so taken aback when the New Hampshire primary supported Hillary Clinton. I was watching Chris Matthews interviewing some of his talking heads when the results came out.
Mr Robinson of the Washington Post started the race issue when he mentioned the 'Bradley effect'. Chris Matthews went with the comment and the race issue blew up. Of course, they then blamed the infusion of the 'race issue' on Bill Clinton and then Hillary Clinton.
There is definitely bias in the media and a double standard. They constantly use positive words when talking about Obama's errors and inflammatory words when referring to Hillary Clinton.
You only need to read the comments on the many blogs to know that the divide is very wide in the Democratic Party caused, in part, by this double standard.
Posted by: Louise | Apr 8, 2008 9:04:34 PM
It is truly appalling the way the media has handled this primary election! I predict it will go down in the history books and will be preached about in journalism schools as proof of our countries limited hold on a true democracy. I feel the way the MSM has handled this democratic primary borders on propaganda which favors Obama and demonizes Clinton. Also, I believe a new feminist moment will rise out of this truly disgusting show of misogyny.
If Obama gets the nomination it will be just as it is now for Bush- a low approval rating with all that use to support him slowly backing away. At least we know what we are getting with Clinton - a dedicated public servant that will get the job done.
Posted by: Andrea | Apr 8, 2008 9:05:39 PM
omentum - Hillary needs me more.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | Apr 8, 2008 9:05:55 PM
Gotta go.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | Apr 8, 2008 9:06:52 PM
Hillary never takes responsibility. If she Did it a couple of times she might see a big difference.
Posted by: Lauren | Apr 8, 2008 9:14:07 PM
It's a double alright.....
Penn and Bill Clinton!! I'm kind of sick of Hillary creating such distractions. Her campaign has so darned much on her plate right now.
I Love Pennsylvania....lived there quite awhile. But if PA does not open their eyes to what is coming if Hillary (and Bill) are elected.....well then. Look, we all want jobs in Pennsylvania and in the other 49 states as well, but we cannot do it if people are not willing to open their eyes, learn about what trade really does mean to the Clintons ($$$$$$). If you're like me, you're getting tired of beating a dead horse.
Posted by: barbara miller | Apr 8, 2008 9:15:42 PM
When you are trying to take over a country you don't give an inch to many radical's in his life.so the left wingnuts are trying to take the party over I think it could be time for a third party in this country.
Posted by: Bishop | Apr 8, 2008 9:16:51 PM
Hillary is the only candidate who's constistenly whining about something. It's no doubt that in these past few weeks she's had negative press - rightly so since bosnia was a whopper - but now she started whining last week that the BOYS were picking on her and so this weeks theme is the MEDIA and obama supporters picking on her.
I say: GROW UP. If you want to be treated equal than act it. STOP YOUR WHINING. You're just trying to get the sympathy vote and we all know it. You just want the press to back off - guess what it just doesn't work that way.
All of the candidates get the same press coverage in the end. Actually hillary, you end up with the most because of you and the way you run your campaign.
Posted by: jules0123 | Apr 8, 2008 9:17:55 PM



