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April 25, 2008 12:32 PM

ABC News' Eloise Harper Reports: Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., has been focused on two themes in the days since the Pennsylvania primary: an urgent plea for voters to donate to her campaign via the official website and calling for another debate.

As the campaign marches on, Clinton has mentioned the need for a debate with Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., twice on Friday morning during a speech she gave in Jacksonville, North Carolina, and once on Thursday evening while stumping in Ashville and Fayetteville, North Carolina.

While in Jacksonville, Clinton took several minutes to talk about her ad campaign and managed to work in a debate challenge to Obama. She told voters to ask her anything – even "ask why Senator Obama won't debate me."

"While Senator Clinton is focused on debating debates -- except, of course, for the one in North Carolina that Senator Obama accepted and she didn't or the previous 20-plus debates they've already had -- Senator Obama is focused on finding real solutions for our families like making energy more affordable and securing our energy independence. The difference in this election couldn't be more clear," Obama campaign spokesman Hari Sevugan told ABC News.

North Carolina is yet another state where jobs and health care are huge priorities to voters, and yet they were topics that were saved for last.

Even when she was in Indiana on Wednesday, Clinton took out time to make a debate challenge to her Democratic opponent.

Not since the famous line where she shamed Obama and then said "Meet me in Ohio. Let's have a debate about your tactics!" have we seen this kind of push from Clinton to put the boxing gloves back on.

A Democratic debate was scheduled in North Carolina for April 27, but debate sponsors cancelled the event last week. North Carolina Democratic Party officials announced that "time constraints and logistical issues associated with such a large, national event" were to blame.

Another reason: the tone and the backlash of the previous ABC News debate, party officials said.

This had sparked a fury of harsh, accusing statements between the two Democratic contenders because at the time, Clinton was committed to participating in the debate but Obama had not confirmed.

It's clear Clinton believes her performance in the ABC News debate leading up to the Pennsylvania primary last week put her over the edge in the Keystone state and she's hoping for a repeat performance in North Carolina -- an upcoming primary where Clinton admits she faces an "uphill battle."

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Do or Die time for Hills in da last big state left on the calendar.

Bill Says she gotts to win here or she's doomed, Doomed, DOOMED.

Posted by: The Commander Guy | Apr 25, 2008 12:40:12 PM

Obama is afraid to misspeak now.
He only gave written scriptspeech at a truck stop and only invited journalist allowed to ask questions.

Don't even expect him to have a live debate .

Posted by: crisis08 | Apr 25, 2008 12:50:29 PM

It's time for Obama to play with the big boys or get out of the race. He's already known as a whimp and an eletist. His actions just keep confirming that opinion.

If he can't handle a debate with Hillary, he will be completely swamped by McCain. McCain is greatly respected for his wisdom and courage.

Sounds like Obama's tactics of hoodwinking the Democrats have hit a snag--HILLARY CLINTON (The only Democrat with SOLUTIONS)

Posted by: Ben | Apr 25, 2008 12:53:26 PM

Obama can't debate or win the GE so the supers are are going to make the right choice for all and I guess the people on the down ticket in NC will pay a price for endorseing Obama.

Posted by: Bishop | Apr 25, 2008 12:57:45 PM

Rick,

Thanks.
Usually National Enquier is a good source .

Posted by: crisis08 | Apr 25, 2008 12:58:30 PM

I think his advisor told him to keep quiet now after he misspoke about his bitter speech.

Posted by: crisis08 | Apr 25, 2008 1:01:37 PM

Yesterday, on The View, Sheri, a black woman, said she wanted Obama so her son can see a President that looks like him.

Gee...I'm a whie woman. I guess I'll have to keep that in mind when I vote in Indiana and in November!

Posted by: Nancy | Apr 25, 2008 1:02:40 PM

crisis08, the only one who is afraid to mispeak is Hill the Bosnian General. She mispoke about Bosnia, Obama has not been close to that verb. Anybody who is putting money in Hill at this stage is wasting his/her money. Hill needs it to pay her bills but not for a campaign which came to an end. There is no need for another debate. No more bitter personal attacks and character assassination. Let us leave voters talk and vote. God bless America and God bless Obama.OBAMA08.

Posted by: BKMC | Apr 25, 2008 1:04:14 PM

Nancy,

Yes, I got irritated also when I heard that comment.
So, the goal is because he is black and they want to make it like a history?

Posted by: crisis08 | Apr 25, 2008 1:06:01 PM

There has been 21 debates. You guys act like they've only debated once.

Posted by: lisa | Apr 25, 2008 1:10:22 PM

lisa - they have debated only 4 times one on one. The other 17 times was in a group with other contenders .. which no one watched.

Posted by: Rick | Apr 25, 2008 1:12:10 PM

BKMC,

I think Obama misspoke about his father came to US , do you remember that?
BTW, I just donated money to her campaign yesterday.

Posted by: crisis08 | Apr 25, 2008 1:12:22 PM

Reports are that Hillary is dropping a great deal of cash in NC. Where is she getting the money - she is already deep in debt. How many vendors are going to be left holding the bag, again? Those little people that she champions she supports? If Senator Obama wins 10% of NC and wins in Indiana or its close, Hillary will need to win the remaining states by 89% -- yes 89%. Senator Obama could sit on his thumbs after May 6 and still win even though he will not! It's over.. the truth is a bit hard to swallow.

Posted by: sandy | Apr 25, 2008 1:12:54 PM

Obama knows he can't win in a debate and everytime he goes one on one with her he shows himself to be, hmmm, how to say this nicely, the lesser intellect.

It is a no win situation for him that all of his advisors have put the kabash on. "Do not open your mouth without our pre-approved script!!!!"

Posted by: Pat | Apr 25, 2008 1:13:36 PM

she only wants to debate because she is losing. If I were Obama, I wouldn't give her the time of day - I would just concentrate on attacking McCain and getting my own points on issues across. She's gone - its just a matter of time.

Posted by: bernadette | Apr 25, 2008 1:13:52 PM

Of course, he won't debate her again, now that the media has stopped treating him like a fragile flower. Senator Clinton will trounce him thoroughly and show him up for the weak fraud he is. He'll probably be asked about Rev. Wright again, too, since another headline is "Will Rev. Wright Be Obama's Demise?" And to that question, I say, "Please, God, yes."

Posted by: Griffin | Apr 25, 2008 1:15:30 PM

She has to win 80% of the remaining delegates in order to beat Obama, wether you choose to believe it or not... it's OVER. She is working to elect John McCain now. Her handler Rupert Murdoch of FOX news would be proud.

Posted by: Zdnet | Apr 25, 2008 1:18:07 PM

He can't refuse to have a debate now but can he escape from McCain later on?

Posted by: crisis08 | Apr 25, 2008 1:18:15 PM

Rick if you and others didn't watch the other debates then that's your problem. I saw every single one that was televised.

Posted by: lisa | Apr 25, 2008 1:18:43 PM

The loser always wants to debate. Do not worry - Senator Obama can handle another debate just fine now that he knows questions will relate to idotic induendos rather then the economy, Iraq, gas prices,....

Posted by: sandy | Apr 25, 2008 1:19:10 PM

Nancy, the funny thing is Elisabeth wouldn't say that since every Pres has looked like her son. Have there ever been a black Pres or was I sleep when that happened. This is history in the making for Hillary and Obama...it's a good thing. Sometime change is good! Get use to it.

Posted by: KJ | Apr 25, 2008 1:21:30 PM

It seems that we are focusing on the wrong issues here to start with. Any one who is perfect is six feet under anyway. The whole campaign has become so off track, who knows what is going on anymore. If we go back to day one and look at how it has all took place, it seems to me that this is not a race among the candidates, but the press. If they are behind the candidate, and they have been behind each one at different times throuhout this race, then that is the candidate who is ahead at the time. The press already has too much control over our decisions today and if that is to be the case, lets at least be fair to both sides and not tip the scales in the favor of one or the other. Lets look at the facts, not he said/she said gossip and then make our own decisions. Was the press behind Bush as well?

Posted by: Anna | Apr 25, 2008 1:21:48 PM

Passing judgement on all black people by something that loud mouth says on the view is very biased. That's like me judging you on everything Rush Limbaugh says.
Next to me Obama looks like a white man.

Posted by: black man | Apr 25, 2008 1:22:24 PM

Senator Obama will handle McCain in a debate. McCain is for Bush politics and has too many 'senior moments' to hold his own. Besides, Lieberman will not be able to be at McCain's elbow to act as McCain's teleprompter.

Posted by: sandy | Apr 25, 2008 1:23:28 PM

Who cares what Hillary wants? I want her to drop out, will she do it?

Obama08

Posted by: Thinking | Apr 25, 2008 1:25:45 PM

Ok,let's have a debate on the economy, Iraq and gas prices.
We'll see what happen.
As I know , he will not reduce the gas prices on the last debate.
what we gonna do about this? People are suffering now. Lots of children have to skip their breakfast.

Posted by: crisis08 | Apr 25, 2008 1:25:51 PM

Hillary had name recognition, a massive amount in her war chest, the Clinton political machine going for her when she started, and an ex-president in her corner. Why hasn't SHE been able to lock the nomination?

Posted by: sandy | Apr 25, 2008 1:26:04 PM

Why do we need another debate?

Supposedly according to ABC, there are no more questions to ask so instead they focused on flag pins, Ayers, Wright, Bittergate instead of issues for the American people.

Why even bother.

Is that all Hillary has?

Posted by: Stacey | Apr 25, 2008 1:26:51 PM

chris 08 god bless you for your donation Hilly will lov you for bailing out her debts of at least 10 mil her own 5 mil she wants that all back in her pocket before she quits and you played right in to her hands congratssssssssssssssssssssss....Nice of you ..

Posted by: honest | Apr 25, 2008 1:29:11 PM

Calli,

Well said

Posted by: crisis08 | Apr 25, 2008 1:29:54 PM

No - but the superdelegates are moving into Senator Obama's camp...drip, drip, drip. He is gaining on Hillary's lead in the superdelegate race and the
superdelegates are smart enough not to throw a whole voting block under the bus.

Posted by: sandy | Apr 25, 2008 1:30:33 PM

If Obama tries to avoid the debate, how can he handles the debate with Mcain if he is the nominee. He is afraid to make a mistake and he cannot handle the tough questions. He has no substance and doesn't underdand the economy. He always copy Hillary economy speech.

Posted by: kathy | Apr 25, 2008 1:32:14 PM

Ben, You might want to learn how to spell.

Posted by: Tim | Apr 25, 2008 1:35:03 PM

Honest,

I don't regret for donating my money to Hillary campaign.
The billionaires donated money to Obama should worry now if he lost.
I know Hillary got little money from her donors not from billionaires, that's why I donate to her.
She appreciates ours.

Posted by: crisis08 | Apr 25, 2008 1:35:04 PM

surprise surprise that obama won't take a debate, one that would surely focus more on the issues this time around. get out of the kitchen, barack, half of the democrats are yearning for a miracle, a Hillary comback to knock that halo off your head.

Posted by: sarah | Apr 25, 2008 1:38:18 PM

Hillary is the RNC smear machine re-incarnate. She cannot carry the red states like Obama has and democrats in states she won always go blue... her 'Go Hillary' party ends early June, maybe she can write a book to pay the debt she's amassed.

Posted by: Brian | Apr 25, 2008 1:39:43 PM

Please.....NO MORE DEBATES!!!! What a waste of time and energy. I don't think I could listen to that woman droan on and on again while evading all questions and issues. Hillary needs to hang it up, it is over, time has run out. She is the female Lord Valdemort --evil, cruel and vile. She has not only failed in her candidacy but demonstrated her ineptitude for management and fiscal responsibility. Give us a break, Hillary. Go home to Arkansas....I don't think NY wants you back either.

PS: I am a WF over 40. I really dislike Hillary Clinton; she denigrates all professional women. I would vote for the devil first --- on second thought, maybe they are one in the same.

Posted by: Wizard | Apr 25, 2008 1:41:33 PM

Isn't it ironic how McCain is expected to stop the Republicans in NC from airing an ad about Obama and his ties to Wright. This of course is a legitimate relationship.

Yet, today Obama's campaign manger states that the racist vote goes for McCain!

Where is Obama's ethics? I don't think he ever had any!

Posted by: Nick | Apr 25, 2008 1:42:42 PM

He doesn't need to debate the press again, they are not running, last I heard.

He has defeated Hillary, and is now running against McCain, Hillary is kind of an itch right now.

Obama08

Posted by: Thinking | Apr 25, 2008 1:43:31 PM

Wizard - I could not agree more! Good post!

Posted by: sandy | Apr 25, 2008 1:44:09 PM

If the nomination is taken from Obama, those 90% of blacks that voted Obama most will likely be to depressed to vote. This equals bad news for the Democratic party. If Obama is elected nominee he has alot of mountains to climb. Either way, I see McCain taking the White easily. Being white and democrat, I'm suprised with myself that I don't feel like thats a bad thing at this point.

Posted by: Brian | Apr 25, 2008 1:44:50 PM

If the nomination is taken from Obama, those 90% of blacks that voted Obama most will likely be to depressed to vote. This equals bad news for the Democratic party. If Obama is elected nominee he has alot of mountains to climb. Either way, I see McCain taking the White easily. Being white and democrat, I'm suprised with myself that I don't feel like thats a bad thing at this point.

Posted by: Brian | Apr 25, 2008 1:44:59 PM

This is utter bullcrap. Haven't you people seen/heard enough inane debates? Theres been over twenty of them for chrisake. She needs to get out now before you disapproval ratings go even lower.

Posted by: Matt | Apr 25, 2008 1:47:05 PM

When you are behind you scream like a wet chicken for attention, Hillary. there were 21 debates I saw at least 16. There were 4 with the two of them. there will be maybe 4 with McCain & one VP debate. Get a grip on yourselves, work for your candidate & Vote.
Stop whinnnneing about debates

Posted by: jAYjAY | Apr 25, 2008 1:47:09 PM

Why another debate? There serves no purpose. I've watched almost 20 debates so far, what will be accomplished in another one. Hillary shoul be glad Barack won't stoop to her level of campaigning. She's a proven Boldfaced Liar when it came to Bosnia and tried to blow it off. Her campaign is in Debt, so we know she can't manage her finances let alone a national budget. She continues to contradict herself over and over. She's a professional politician and a good one. But not the one for me!!!

Posted by: Wil | Apr 25, 2008 1:47:50 PM

Guess what Hill? No more debates. You blew it last time. We don't need you and you can't have our guy. Go do your own campaigning. No debates. Everybody but you thinks that 21 was more than enough. You're on your own.

Posted by: karela | Apr 25, 2008 1:48:51 PM

Huh. I wonder why she backed out of the first PA debate then. It's almost like she decides what matters most based on what will benefit her the most rather than having any real conviction. Kind of like how MI and FL didn't matter until they could help her. It's cool though, she's just a sore loser.

Posted by: JR | Apr 25, 2008 1:49:36 PM

Hillary only stirs controversy between her and Obama because that is the only way for her to keep her name in the headlines and in the forefront of voters minds. She has no substance, only schemes.

Posted by: Brian | Apr 25, 2008 1:49:46 PM

With Obama's 11-0 run in March, an insurmountable lead was generated in the pledged delegate totals, Hillary lost the nomination by winning by smaller margins than obama won during that 11-0 run, add to that Obamas periodic wins between the remaining contests and you conclude Obama will end the process with more pledged delegates than Clinton. The remaining Supers are going to side with the pledged totals, Obama has this all wrapped up nice and pretty even if he were to lose the remaining contests. The 11-0 run was a Clinton Killer and I LOVE IT!

Posted by: Bob | Apr 25, 2008 1:51:13 PM

With Rev. Wright's new interview slated for tomorrow on PBS, Obama has more to fear now from debate moderator questioning than ever before. New questions will arise about the relationship, and why Wright said Obama's speech on race was just politics. Obama' performances pale in comparison to Hillary during debates anyway, but now he's very afraid. He knows his appeal is dwindling, and that the tide truly has turned. Participating in another debate will only further highlight his incompetency.
What's an empty suit to do? Stick to the script, and hope.

Hillary, Yes we WILL!

Posted by: Emily | Apr 25, 2008 1:53:04 PM

She's said she will spend her new money campaigning. This suggests she won't be paying her campaign bills. She's in debt the amount or so that she's raised. I'm just wondering if she's invented 80 thousand names and donated the money to herself. Just wondering. It's sort of a trust issue.

Now, obviously she needs free air time. So she can use a "debate" format to be an "attack ad." Even though Obama is a highly skilled debater, he's not got an ugly enough soul to see her coming.

But she's educating him.

Posted by: Gaias Child | Apr 25, 2008 1:53:25 PM

Obama will debate...debate his next opponent, that is. Hillary has become irrevelant and he knows it. The fat lady has sung on the Democratic primary. Need proof?

http://www.411mania.com/politics/columns/73871/Obama-vs.-Clinton:-State-By-State-Breakdown-of-Remaining-Democratic-Nomination-Contests.htm

Posted by: LW | Apr 25, 2008 1:54:00 PM

That was a sweet run and a great day in American politics. Obama could take the rest of the primary off and still beat Clinton, of course he's better than that and so he won't. Tell me again, anyone, how Clinton is not wasting precious time and resources in a narcissistic fit?

Posted by: JR | Apr 25, 2008 1:54:15 PM

"Hillary, Yes we WILL!"

Does it bother you that your candidate is so unoriginal that she has to rip off campaign slogans from her opponent? Does it bother you that the math just won't let Hillary win? I guess you believe in miracles, but we've had so many this primary season I think the well has run dry. Better luck next time!

Posted by: JR | Apr 25, 2008 1:56:27 PM

Crisis08:

I'm sure Mark Penn is thankful for your donation to pay off the money he is owed!!!

Obama 2008 -- Yes, WE CAN!!!

Posted by: Jackt51 -- Vietnam Vet and Proud Liberal | Apr 25, 2008 2:00:41 PM

poor, poor Nancy what will you ever do when the leader of the free world is a Black man? For as many years as your people have stopped preventing Black people from voting, we have voted for white candidates. But now if we vote for a Black candidate it is called reverse racisim.

Deal with it, your fears of a Black planet are coming true.

Posted by: Chris Calloway | Apr 25, 2008 2:02:09 PM

Bob's right, Calli. Even if she does better than even she expects, she will still need more than 70% of the remaining supers. Tall order when she has only gathered 4% of those committing since early February.

Posted by: LW | Apr 25, 2008 2:06:16 PM

A year ago I would have never believed that there would be so much thinly-veiled racism at work in the primary. Many of you just fear powerful people of any ethnicity that isn't lily-white (redheads too probably). Simply amazing. Boy are y'all gonna be pissed come November.

Posted by: JR | Apr 25, 2008 2:06:21 PM

And JR - When there is nothing left to say of substance, like why Obama cannot debate, Obamadroids resort to their very favorite thing - denigrating a woman, personal attacks, making accusations which have no evidence to back them up, and DIVERTING ATTENTION AWAY from Obama's refusal to debate and refusal to allow MI and FL to vote.

GO HILLARY 08!

Posted by: calli | Apr 25, 2008 2:08:05 PM

It is over! Plain and simple. If Hillary's supporters still want to deny simple math - go right ahead. Yes, superdelegates can change their minds -but as Senator Obama has more superdelegates declare for him, as he continues to build his broader support base, as he raises the kind of money that Hillary cannot, as his camapign contiues to build a 50-state registration drive, Hillary cannot compete. The superdelgates are smart enough to know who the winner is.

Posted by: sandy | Apr 25, 2008 2:08:07 PM

Hillary has not reached 60% in any state save Arkasas.

How's Hills gonna rack up 70% margins from here on out?

Answer: She ain't.

Posted by: The Commander Guy | Apr 25, 2008 2:08:10 PM

Nobody plagiarizes like Obama. Yes, we will trumps yes, we can. What you CAN do is infinitely less important than what you HAVE DONE and what you WILL do.

HILLARY, YES WE WILL!

Posted by: Emily | Apr 25, 2008 2:08:45 PM

71% I believe. After she barely wins Indiana (I'll predict 52-48), and then gets slaughtered in North Carolina (I'll guess 62-38), then it'll be a lot closer to 80%. There's plucky determination and then there is denial.

Posted by: JR | Apr 25, 2008 2:10:13 PM

He won't debate you because he
doesn't have to! Stop Whining, Hillary!
You've lost the war, go home!
Here are some "buzz facts" for you:
Obama has about 140 more delegates than
you, he has 500,000 more popular votes
than you, He has won many more states
than you! Go Home!

Posted by: reaganfan | Apr 25, 2008 2:10:21 PM

Something tells me that Ali Ata will have something to say about Senator Obama very soon.

GO HILLARY 08!

Posted by: calli | Apr 25, 2008 2:10:32 PM

It "trumps" it? How does that justify stealing it? So what if you "can't" as the numbers clearly indicate but you believe you "will"? That's the thing about willpower. It doesn't exist in a vacuum, unlike your thought process. Reality has great power to quash willpower.

Posted by: JR | Apr 25, 2008 2:12:40 PM

And just to restress the point, if Senator Obama wins 10% of NC and wins in Indiana or its close, Hillary will need to win the remaining states by 89% -- yes 89%! Hillary supporters add and subtract all you want, and keep giving away your child's college money (it hasn't helped Hillary much, but it could have helped your children. The reality is she will not win! It is over!

Posted by: sandy | Apr 25, 2008 2:14:49 PM

If Hillary had campaigned in the whole U.S. of A. then she wouldn't be behind and she wouldn't be grovelling to her opponent to give her free air time. 21 debates is enough, as shown by the meager substance left to cover in the last debate.

Obama did not do poorly in the last debate. He was right to show surprise and indignation with the nature of the debate, the nation agreed with him.

Here's a suggestion. Hillary debate herself. At one podium, the candidate who: pushed NAFTA as first lady, ducked snipers, agreed MI/FL wouldn't count, said yes yes yes Obama could win. At the other podium, the candidate who: now "opposes" NAFTA, admits no snipers, says MI/FL should count, and says Obama can't win.

Posted by: JTS | Apr 25, 2008 2:15:12 PM

Let's not forget that the superdelegate count is something like Clinton 256 (and stagnating) Obama 234 (and rising)-he just got Wu's endorsement which means the Portland suburbs will be a breeze. Of course, now the Clinton rallying cry becomes "popular vote!". Worked well for Gore in 2000.

Posted by: JR | Apr 25, 2008 2:17:15 PM

Wow! I was being charitable. 89 percent? You guys have, perhaps, a 5 percent chance of winning this. Why is it more important to persist in foisting this festering, dead carcass of a campaign on us than looking forward to November. I guess it is "all about Hillary" and what she feels she "deserves". *Retch*

Posted by: JR | Apr 25, 2008 2:20:44 PM

Nick wrote:

Did someone just type that if Hillary gets the nomination that Blacks will be too depressed to vote and stay home?

Give me a break.

The reality is that if Obama gets the nomination, Hillary voters will join forces with McCain.

My response:

So the presidency goes to McCain because the democrats are to divided.

Posted by: Brian | Apr 25, 2008 2:21:46 PM

Ben - you live in the same fantasy world as Hillary. Senator Obama does not have to win IN - he only has to come close. He still will garner more delegates then Hillary as he will win NC. 89% is the magic number for Hillary after that -something she has not been able to do except for her high % in Arkansa.

Posted by: sandy | Apr 25, 2008 2:22:57 PM

That's why in two weeks Obama will call for MI and Fl to be seated as is.

Any evidence as to how losing Indiana will lose him the nomination even though he will still be far ahead by every metric? Going with hope? Thought so. He may win anyhow. Not enough racists in Indiana by a long shot.

Posted by: JR | Apr 25, 2008 2:23:37 PM

Anyone Realize that by Crushing Clinton in Idaho 80%-19%, Obama netted more delegates than Clinton will net outta winning Pennsylvania?

It's True. You'd think that Hillary woulda been a bit more prepared for the race.

Guess she wasn't ready.

Posted by: The Commander Guy | Apr 25, 2008 2:23:52 PM

Brian,

An Obama nomination means the presidency goes to McCain becuase the Democrats are TOO LIBERAL.

Posted by: geevill | Apr 25, 2008 2:25:37 PM

Ben...Try this on for reality...

The reality is that he is winning the process.

The reality is that he is winning his party.

Oh, yes...one more reality...reality is much more perceivable when your head is out of the sand.

Posted by: LW | Apr 25, 2008 2:26:07 PM

It is Obama supporters that are living in an imaginary world.

Being slightly CLOSER doesn't count in this contest. That is not how the rules were set up.

It doesn't matter at this point. All this math about which percentage Hillary needs to win is silly. Neither candidate can win the nomination.

Obama has his people out spreading mis-information. It won't work this time.

Posted by: Ben | Apr 25, 2008 2:26:52 PM

I don't understand all the accusations that Barack Obama only offers hope, not solutions.

Either you've never heard his speeches, or never looked on his website. There's also a possibility that you have been only listening to the spin coming out of the Clinton campaign.

Regardless of who wins the democratic primary, we should rally around that candidate--not label them as an elitist with speeches not solutions, nor a shrill old hag foaming at the mouth to get a chance to be President.

Either Democratic candidate would offer a fresh burst of air compared to the current administration/John McCain.

I think that throughout this vicious primary season we have forgotten the real reason we want and need a true change.

Posted by: James | Apr 25, 2008 2:28:09 PM

Ben-yes they can. When FL and MI are seated, and the gains made by Hillary thereby aren't enough to overtake Obama, what will the excuse be then? Not only will this make Obama seem generous, it will improve his showing in those states come November.

Posted by: JR | Apr 25, 2008 2:30:16 PM

I asked this on another forum but did not get a response. Does someone here know the answer please?

Can someone please tell me what will happen if Obama wins the presidency?

Will he have to denounce his Kenyan citizenship or can the POTUS hold allegience to 2 countries?

Posted by: Mar | Apr 25, 2008 2:32:12 PM

hi nick,

you're right VOTE MCCAIN - Black people will vote McCain as well. Let's hear it for the republicains, by the way i am not depressed - seen to much of the same old thing...

Posted by: karen | Apr 25, 2008 2:33:50 PM

Geevil, you sound TOO CONSERVATIVE.

Posted by: Brian | Apr 25, 2008 2:35:29 PM

Hilary this and Hilary that. Didnt this heffer had 8 years as first lady to implement HER GREAT UNIVERSAL PLAN?.If my man was the president, he couldnt tell me nothing. She is weak as wife, as a woman and she is no leader, if she can't run her house, campaign and man, how is she going to run a country?
Her followers is mistaken leadership with a vengeful, hate person...those are not leadership qualities.
No man is going to publically humiliate me and i stay with him. BUT SHE STAYED FOR ONE PURPOSE, TO GET INTO THE WHITE HOUSE.(now obama, the rookie is in her way)
Democrat leaders are now hearing that HER REASON FOR STAYING IN THE RACE IS NOT TO WIN, BUT TO MAKE SURE OBAMA IS NOT ELECTABLE AND LOOSE THE NOMINATION, AND THEN SHE WILL RESURFACE IN 2012.I hope she has a heart attack and die by then,at that point, GOD WILL BLESS AMERICA, AND RID IT OF ONE MORE EVIL.
Hillary and followers are claiming that obama cant close the deal, WELL, least we forget, she came in this race as the powerhouse, with the known name and money, she should have had the capability to kick obama out of the race a long time ago, not the other way around.
And yes obama had to out spend her to get his name out there.
We need a president that will be promoting peace as we are all sick of of two wars already, not one who wants TO OBLITERATE a country and start other wars and have our country continue be hated....
HILARY I WISH YOU AWAY EVERY NIGHT AND I HOPE GOD ANSWER MY PRAYERS SOON.
YOU HAVE DESTROYED YOUR HUSBAND'S LEGACY and divided the party,,,,to think that prior to your nastiness, i was thinking of voting for you if obama lost.....(IM GLAD I SAW THE LIGHT FOR WHO YOU ARE)

Posted by: Deb | Apr 25, 2008 2:37:47 PM

Mar-You didn't get an answer because it is a silly talking point only parroted by very biased media outlets. Why does this seven matter to you? As an informed voter you of course realize that only citizens of the United States can be POTUS, right? Do you think they forgot to check or something and next January all ceremonies will be called of because of this AMAZING "discovery"?

Posted by: JR | Apr 25, 2008 2:37:48 PM

There can be no 'popular' vote toal in MI - neither Obama or Edwards were on the ballot. Fortunately, they followed the rules set by the party - Hillary did not. Bad move on her part. Probably one reason her 'honesty' and 'trustworthiness' % are at an all-time low - close to Bush's.

Posted by: sandy | Apr 25, 2008 2:39:51 PM

It's funny how the Hillary supporters don't recognize the fact that she can't run an effective Presidential campaign (finances in shambles, past support leaving, LYING).

Posted by: RDA | Apr 25, 2008 2:40:12 PM

HILLARY IS DANGEROUS, she doesn't care who is ruined or if the Democratic party is trashed: she can't handle the fact the Clinton "dynasty" is over...

Their so-called legacy is one of mean-spirited ugliness for personal gain to the Clintons at any costs.

McCain is the only choice over the democratic buffoons.

Posted by: Larry D. | Apr 25, 2008 2:40:21 PM

If one assumes candidates are rational agents acting in their own best interest then two conclusions are to be had.

1) Obama will not let Hillary's cronys in the manipulated propaganda media circus use him as a punching bag again. Lets face it Hanity's Buddy and partisan Clinotista Georgy boy Stephacacalous screwed the pooch.

2) Clinton if elected she will foment racism and work hard to dumb down and make poor as many Americans as she possibly can since they are her "base" her constituents.