I think Obama is highly electable. He has energized a whole new generation of dems. And they will still be there voting in Nov. I don't think the superdelegates will go against that.

Nobody can critisize Hillary on her tax returns or what she makes. You don't see Obama or McCain Committed enough to put in their own money. Hillary feels so strongly that she is the best candidate. You have to feel her passion and know that she will do everything she can for the American people no matter what nationality. So Obama and his fans need to stop playing the race card and really start looking at the important issues

Obama doesn't need to use his own money...how much did he raise again. And the only thing Hillary is passionate about is getting back in the white house. It's all about the Clinton legacy, don't be fooled.

Obama is all talk about hope but says nothing about how or what he would deliver. Without his speech-writers, he just stutters and sweats.

Who needs such an inept president?

Even Rush said the other day that he knew some republicans that are voting for Obama. He kept going on and on about how could they do that.

The Republicans are already starting to make mincemeat out of Obama in NC. There is little chance of him beating McCain in the fall. Hillary actually has less ammunition for the Republicans to use.

To Junior2:

Here's something to debate:

1. Why did Obama block a REVOTE in MI? Hillary was ready to go, Obama said no.

I think I know the answer: he was afraid he would be trounced.

2. Why has Obama been running ads in states with open primaries telling Republicans to "vote Democrat for a day"?

I think I know the answer: because he is willfully colluding with Republicans, inviting them to cross-over and inflate his votes in open primaries, so he can defeat Hillary.

These extra Republican votes are not votes for him, they are votes AGAINST Hillary, and will melt away in the general election.

We Dems are going to have egg on our faces in the GE when Obama's "cross-party" support suddenly vaporizes after the Republicans got what they wanted - the defeat of Hillary.

Leaving out MI. and FL. is never going to seem fair to most honest democrats no matter how bad they want thier choice to win this is a plan that Howard Dean and Obama made up before this race started I call it stacking the cards against Hillary from the get go and calling Bill a racist is beyond contemp any respect I had for the Democrtic party is gone I hope they all get voted out.

jkr--

"Hillary actually has less ammunition for the Republicans to use."

seriously?

ROFL.

Seriously???

The electability issue is huge. Howard Dean is facing the reality that they need a strong and fiery opponent against McCain. I think they are slowly coming to the concensus that the person is Clinton. Becoming president is not a beauty contest ie.. popular vote. Obama declines to DEBATE, that is a big no no. It shows them that Obama is weak. They are thinking about November when it comes time to debate McCain. He won't even agree to a face off with Hillary Clinton in Indiana. He will not commit because he knows Hillary will kick his a$$ again.
Dean said the superdelegates have every right to elevate a candidate who is trailing in popular vote. He is gently breaking the news to the Obama campaign.

Oh please, so now you're saying this was fixed from the start. Give me a break. You Hillary supporters are desparate and delusional

kokopelli

Dean also said that it was highly unlikely

Dean's "electability" and "not bound" arguments are essentially Hillary Clinton's current rationale as to ignoing the primary voters.

Dean is politically clever: if Obama wins the nomination, he stood for "electability" as chosen by superdelagates -- not him. He can still approach the Clinton infrastructure and ask for their support.

If Hillary connives her way into the nomination, Dean can still tell Obama supporters his job is to get someone elected.

If the eventual democratic nominee loses, Dean is toast anyway. He cannot seem to be the door closer for wither side, but knows that if the primary voters are enraged he can blame the superdelegates.

The definition of a con artist is someone who can perfectly imitate the actions of an honest person.

The supers are under no obligation to vote according to pledged delegates or popular votes, the original intent of establishing the supers was to prevent red-GOP states and caucus activists from hijacking the party leadership...end then turn around to sabortage us in Nov. Obama is not electable, period. You cannot win without a coalition of all 4 parts that make up the party. Obama is only winning majority of the black votes and let truth be told. I know that some shallow minds are going to scream racism. Obama and his activist supporters has made it imporssible for honest debate and truth about race to be part of this normination process. The supers should vote for party interest and not be imtimidated by the Obama militant machine. Let the supers vote for Mrs. Clinton and ask Obama to join the ticket. 4 years of apprentice as a VP should give him some experience and record to run on. Jumping from state senate to presidency, is absurd and insane.

Obama will be defeated by the Republicans if he is the nominee.

That is why they want to go up against him. He is an easy mark to take down.

The DNC is dreaming about getting him into the white house to use as a puppet. He is obligated to the blacks first, his friends second. He is using the DNC to get the push to try to get there.

To Karma:

I could support either Obama or Hillary in a GE.

To suggest that Obama and Howard Dean stacked the election is delusional.

However, it is not delusional to suggest that Republicans and (Republican) Independent voters who vote for Obama are only doing so for strategic reasons. C'mon. Obama's (admittedly somewhat limited) voting record is among the most liberal in the Senate. He is not an independent, his voting record shows he is a hard-core liberal Democrat. Since when have any Republicans or Independents found that political line attractive? If that were true, Ted Kennedy has missed his chance - he should be running for the Presidency.

The only reason a Republican or Independent would vote for a hard-core liberal Democrat like Obama is...to defeat Hillary.

You can be sure their support will disappear in the General Election. So, please don't bring up Obama's appeal to Republicans or Indpendents as an argument in his favor for the GE.

It may be, as Governor Dean said today, that the superdelegates have the RIGHT to elevate a candidate who is trailing in pledged delegates and the popular vote.

But if they do this, I will be so disgusted with the Democratic Party that I will stay home in November. Which would be something. I have voted in every single election since 1984. My early primary favorite has rarely been the nominee, but I have always accepted the outcome of the primary process and cast my ballot for the Democratic candidate in the fall. But the Democrats lose my vote if THE ONE TIME my candidate gets the most votes and delegates, the superdelegates deny him the nomination.

Harold Ickes is absolutely ruthless. He's in charge of the superdelegates and will intimidate them right to the threshold of career destruction, vendetta, and personal threat.

He has always been the Clinton hatchet man. Halfway between Hillary Clinton and Harold Ickes has always lied plausable deniability.

Watch closely at the superdelegates that are able to resist Ickes' pressure tactics. They will be the ones that have never sold their souls to the Clintons, and belong as part of the post-Clinton era.

Michelle

Only myopic people who cannot see shades of gray vote for their party or nothing. It makes no difference which party they belong to -- they make themselves lemmings.

Remember Harold Ford jr. In TN-2006 senate primary every independent, Dem and Gop voted for him but in general election in Nov-2006, all those folks that gave him the nomination, disappeared. Herold lost the senate race even with a better record and intelligence than Obama. Going from state senate to the highest office in the land is long shot and a very big stretch. It is dellusional for Obama to expect to win any red state in 2008 as a black man.