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Elizabeth Edwards Considers Pre-North Carolina Endorsement

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April 29, 2008 4:00 PM

ABC News' Karen Travers and Teddy Davis Report: With a week to go before the North Carolina primary, two key Tar Heel State endorsements still remain unclaimed: John and Elizabeth Edwards.

The Edwards' have stayed on the sidelines of the Democratic nomination battle since he dropped out of the race in New Orleans in January.

But in an interview with MSNBC on Tuesday, Elizabeth Edwards said she would not rule out making an endorsement before next Tuesday's primary.

"I'd be surprised, but things can happen any day. Never say never," Mrs. Edwards said from Orlando, FL where she is vacationing with her family. "My current inclination is not to say any more than I have said and John would have to speak for himself but as I said he's also on vacation."

In the past, Mrs. Edwards has said she endorses Clinton's health-care plan but remains neutral in the presidential race.

Mrs. Edwards said she did not think endorsements from Democratic Party notables like her husband and former Vice President Al Gore would have the effect of uniting the Democratic Party in this bitter nomination battle.

"If we thought that somehow there was a partial bloodletting that an endorsement would solve, that would be reason to do it. I don't think Vice President Gore or my husband think their endorsement would change that dynamic."

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Ok. This is basically a Clinton endorsement. She is DYING to endorse.

Elizabeth Edwards should endorse. But make it clear John is not.

This is fair. Obama cant freak out over that.

Elizabeth Edwards is basically using the same language that Jimmy Carter is.

So why not just endorse ? We all know Carter endorses Obama.

Posted by: tomdavie | Apr 29, 2008 4:12:55 PM

The pun is not done in good taste.

Hoosiers for Hillary!

Posted by: rockthebleachers | Apr 29, 2008 4:17:32 PM

If forer Sen John Edwards is sincere about the things he said during this campaign and also during the 2004 campaign, he would be able to see clearly which candidate will truthfully support the vision that he has for our country.

One candidate lies without any reason.
This candidate believes that she is entitled to the presidency of the U.S.A. because of who she is.
She has shown that she will do and say anything to achieve her goal.

The other candidate is new to nationwide politics but sincerely believes in the goodness of the American people. This candidate has made some mistakes in his campaign but his sincerity cannot be questioned.

He has inspired millions of American to become involved in the political process.

Whatever your choice Sen Edwards, do what you think will be better for all Americans.

Posted by: brnman | Apr 29, 2008 4:21:29 PM

Would Elizabeth's endorsement really matter that much?

Posted by: Wendy | Apr 29, 2008 4:22:36 PM

While Sen. Edwards is a certainly a notable endorsement, and Elizabeth Edwards would make the news with hew own endorsement, comparing either of their endorsements to VP Gore's endorsement reminds me of the days when Isiah Thomas would compare himself to Michael, Larry and Magic in B-ball. Sure he was a great player, but please.

Posted by: chris rand | Apr 29, 2008 4:24:59 PM

Do endorsements really mean much? EMK and john Kerry both endorsed Obama and he lost Massachusetts. I think voters aren't stupid and can make there own decision. If I were the Edwards' right now I would be holding fire. There is little point right now jumping on either bandwagon when I think the picture will be a lot clearer after Indiana and North Carolina. If Obama wins Indiana you may well finally see movement amongst the uncommitted super ds. If Hillary wins Indiana and does better than expected in North Carolina, then you may get movement away from Obama.

Posted by: markymark | Apr 29, 2008 4:25:42 PM

Sen Edwards spoke to the POOR. He spoke out against poverty and the lower class. This is strictly Clinton territory.

They overwhelmingly approve of Clinton over Obama.

Posted by: tomdavie | Apr 29, 2008 4:26:49 PM

Obama wont win Indiana . He may even lost north Carolina now.

The North Carolina guv endorsed, and survey usa just did a poll at 5% for Obama. It was 26% two weeks ago.

This is a state he should win by 20% .

Posted by: tomdavie | Apr 29, 2008 4:28:56 PM


Why is Mrs Edwards telling this and keeping every one in suspense? She was impressed with Clinton's health plan and said so publicly. now this! So everyone knows her influence has decided the Edward nomination-- what its going to be! It is a shame! Obama deserves better from Edwards! He brought in a new front, new generation, new hope to this generation...this lady is selfish!

Posted by: kim | Apr 29, 2008 4:33:54 PM

If Obama doesnt win NC by 20% , he should drop out.

Posted by: tomdavie | Apr 29, 2008 4:35:02 PM

No way NC goes for Hil' tomdavie. He will pull it out, regardless of all the distractions. He'll weather the storm.

Those for Hillary should think twice about her tactics. She is a liar, just like her husband. Face it, ok? They'll do ANYTHING to win this. How shameful.

Posted by: noway | Apr 29, 2008 4:35:34 PM

brnman whined: "One candidate lies without any reason.
This candidate believes that she is entitled to the presidency of the U.S.A. because of who she is.
She has shown that she will do and say anything to achieve her goal.

The other candidate is new to nationwide politics but sincerely believes in the goodness of the American people. This candidate has made some mistakes in his campaign but his sincerity cannot be questioned."


LOL!!!!! HEY, KOOL-AID!!!

Posted by: tony | Apr 29, 2008 4:36:16 PM

I'm not sure if these endorsements matter much over the short term, but I think the more you hear someone is being endorsed, the better their name and desirability looks. This is why the media go on and on and on about Obama's endorsements but barely give any attention to Clinton's - especially her black endorsements.

Posted by: tony | Apr 29, 2008 4:38:50 PM

Every day the comment boards for any article about the campaign show that the party is becoming hopelessly divided and with venom that assaults the eyes and ears.

How is any of this ranting supposed to promote any agenda for positive change?

This party cannot defeat McCain in November unless it is united AND substantially increased in numbers.

That is the only factor that any democrat should be focused on.

Posted by: Irene | Apr 29, 2008 4:41:18 PM

I don't believe endorsements sway people one way or the other. Everyone gets all excited when someone endorses Hillary and Obama, like these people are gods or something. They are just ordinary people, no different from us.

Posted by: lisa | Apr 29, 2008 4:41:18 PM

I agree, what a slimy pun indeed on that first comment. It should be removed from the comments.

I wish that the Edwards would endorse Hillary Clinton. But it is enough that Jeremiah Wright and Barack Obama are joined at the hip. Some spiritual mentor!

Posted by: Fred C Dobbs | Apr 29, 2008 4:47:34 PM

So you all are free to express your opinions and preferences, but Ms. Edwards needs to keep her powder dry?

This is someone who has done far more for the party than any of you ever will. She gave months and years of her life to serve on the frontlines of the campaign in 2004 for a presidential candidate who stunk on ice. She gave years of her husband being on the campaign trail, as a standard-bearer for the party.

But she should just keep her big trap shut. That's very nice. And very Democratic.

Fact is, you don't know a thing about this party and its openness. Yes, it's messy. That's what's allowed a snake-oil salesman like your candidate to move to the front of the line. But be assured we are in the process of rectifying that problem now.

Posted by: commonsensenj | Apr 29, 2008 4:50:03 PM

tomdavie:

You are so class-less and clueless that the Clintonistas should run you out of town on a rail!

As a former Edwards supporter, I'll be shocked if he endorses Clinton. But, politics is politics.

But Clinton is NOT the candidate of the working class.

If the Edwards are smart, they'll wait until after NC, to avoid feeling bad when Clinton drops out of the race after losses in NC and Indiana.

Obama 2008 -- Yes, WE CAN!!!

Posted by: Jackt51 -- Vietnam Vet and Proud Liberal | Apr 29, 2008 4:56:34 PM

I wish Mrs. Edwards would endorse HRC. Obama has been so damaged at this point that I truly think he is unelectable. His credibility is gone. 20 years is 20 years. He is just now outraged? Not until Rev. Wright insulted him is he able to see the light? Please! His campaign knows full well that Obama had to come out today and scream outrage. Too little, too late. If he had a report card right now, it would look like this:
Judgment = F
Credibility = F
Impostor = A+
Accepts responsiblity: F
Sincere: F
Requires too much supervision: Check
Anxious to please: Check
Inconsistent: Check
Exhibits creativity: Check
Excessive talking: Check
Distubs others: Check
Capable of better work: Check
Recommend student quits throwing everyone under the bus as soon as they something that offends HIM.

Posted by: Bea | Apr 29, 2008 5:01:45 PM

"If Obama doesnt win NC by 20% , he should drop out."


hell no!! clinton should have dropped out long long ago. she didnt deliver on feb 5th like she hoped and dreamed and believed she would.

Posted by: crystal | Apr 29, 2008 5:02:17 PM

Even though I support Obama, I fear Edwards will throw his support behind Clinton because he is jealous of Obama over the fact that he is close to winning, while he himself has ran several times, and lost.

Posted by: ray | Apr 29, 2008 5:02:56 PM

she endorses the HRC health care plan, because it does what her husband's plan would have done. Drop BILLIONS into the pockets of insurance companies while not doing anything to address actual health care.

Posted by: Louis | Apr 29, 2008 5:03:34 PM

well depends on what the meaning of is is.
I have listened to this and that about both Democrats. You are all making my choose much easier. At least with McCain I know what I am getting. Your Dream Candidates both have baggage. You are all doing everything you can to sway us to go back to the known. If you think that Ms Clinton is going to skate with just the things she and her Hubby Bubba have done in the last year I must tell you you are WRONG. Rush is right get Hillary in so the can take her out. You guys just aren't very smart. You let your best Candidate be harpooned by the Republicans and Clinton. Thanks for the help go McCain at least you know where he stands. Sound Familiar?

Posted by: Independent | Apr 29, 2008 5:04:20 PM

"No way NC goes for Hil' tomdavie. He will pull it out, regardless of all the distractions. He'll weather the storm.

Those for Hillary should think twice about her tactics. She is a liar, just like her husband. Face it, ok? They'll do ANYTHING to win this. How shameful."

very true

OBAMA 08!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: criss | Apr 29, 2008 5:05:15 PM

If this is an endorsement for Senator Clinton, I cannot think of one that means as much as this one! I am crossing my fingers and praying for her!

Posted by: cbl | Apr 29, 2008 5:06:00 PM

I saw one comment here where the poster said that "American voters aren't stupid". While it may be that most voters aren't stupid, there is clearly a solid group of voters that candidates believe are stupid. Just look at the rediculous slogans and sound bites comming out of the campaigns. Any rational person would see these campaigns as insulting to our intellegence, but the campaigns keep on doing and saying the same stupid things.

This media fixation on the Bosnia sniper lie, or Rev. Wright, or whatever the latest juicy is, is a commentary about the media and candidate's feeling about how stupid we are. Anyone remember the debate a couple of weeks ago? That was a true insult to the intellegence of american voters. It was interesting that initially many voters complained about the debate, but within a day or two the anger at ABC broke down into name calling of the candidates.

Listen to the candidates, consider their positions, judge how likely they are to actually change the way Washington works, forget the sound bites, that's an intellegent voter.

Posted by: captbilly | Apr 29, 2008 5:06:19 PM

If Edwards endorses Clinton, he will lose all of his credibility. The Clintons are the people that Edwards has fought his whole life against, and do not mirror his values.

Posted by: ron | Apr 29, 2008 5:08:17 PM

ROTFLMAO, There is a voter who believes that there is one candidate who lies for no reason. I wonder if his candidate lying for how many reasons and what reason ? Come on, people. We are not borned yesterday. We do not call them politicians for a reason. This is outrageously idiotic!

Posted by: mtr2311 | Apr 29, 2008 5:08:44 PM

I'm thinking about coming out with my own endorsement in the near future.

Posted by: k-man | Apr 29, 2008 5:08:51 PM

tomdavie

wake up from your dream of hillary being president. this country is ready for a woman prez but not Hillary. shes a liar, shes proven it and people are so dumb to believe anything else she says.

Posted by: criss | Apr 29, 2008 5:10:22 PM

I was for Edwards from the go but if he endorses Hilly I will vote Rep Big mistake for him unless she picks him for VP even then I won't vote.He has cut his own throat for future chances.

Posted by: h | Apr 29, 2008 5:10:31 PM

Come on Mrs. Edwards, you are a strong, courageous woman, and your opinion does matter! Even if John won't come out and endorse either candidate, you certainly can. Please join Hillary's team and support her for the Democratic nomination!

Hillary 2008!

Posted by: T.D. | Apr 29, 2008 5:11:25 PM

i dont understand how people believe clinton is a candidate for the working class....

when has she ever had to work

they make 109 million and they represent the working class??


GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!


Posted by: criss | Apr 29, 2008 5:15:28 PM

It has to be Hillary. Senator Obama is damaged goods. He needs to go home and work on race relations. I think that is his calling. Let's see if he can unite with Wright!!!

Posted by: sylvia | Apr 29, 2008 5:20:21 PM

Obama "betryed" his 20yrs uncle pastor today officially...He wanted to save some white votes but in the same time, he may have offended his black brothers...He is gambling his political life..

His Uncle Pastor just simply told the truth...

It will be interesting to see how the black votes for Obama in next week.

Posted by: True Truth | Apr 29, 2008 5:23:01 PM

Ummmm... why is it news who Elizabeth endorses (or does not)? The last I heard Liz wasn't a s Super Delegate, or has Hillary managed to have the rules changed and have SDs spouses count as well? Who does Bill Richradson's wife endorse?

Posted by: Brown Mafia | Apr 29, 2008 5:25:02 PM

Oh my gosh...Wright got a tell all book deal and Hillary got two endorsements....Come on Elizabeth and make it three!!!! Go Hillary!!!

Posted by: tina | Apr 29, 2008 5:26:44 PM

True Truth - I was thinking the same thing this morning - how will the black constituents view what Obama said? Is he slapping their faces and saying their votes don't count in order to pander to the white voters who very much object to radical statements? On one hand Obama defended the black church, but at the same time, he disrespected all of the leaders of those churches who are coming out in support of Wright.

Posted by: skeptic | Apr 29, 2008 5:35:00 PM

If Elizabeth Edwards endorses Clinton, it will only be to help her win in NC. If she endorses Obama it will be a statement about integrity and vision. About a new way to govern. About inclusion and conciliation. As Obama responds to the pastor whose motor mouth is so divisive and destructive, Obama again shows his durable authenticity and dignity as well as strength. Just when I was getting discouraged. So if Elizabeth Edwards endorses him, it will be in recognition of these things. If not, we are off to the races with the Clintons getting back into the White House. Horrors!!

Posted by: Gaias Child | Apr 29, 2008 5:55:41 PM

Most of John Edwards supporters are working class white folks, they shifted to Hillary Clinton hook line and sinker. What do you expect John and Liz to do? Endorse Clinton - but of course!

Posted by: Navin | Apr 29, 2008 5:56:31 PM

Something many people forget, Edwards despises Hillary.

Since Obama is far ahead in pledged delegates, Mr Edwards may decide now is the time to stand up and join someone he fought alongside with in this campaign.

Mr Edwards could decide Wright is clearly a lunatic. Mr Edwards could decide to support Obama which would end this campaign.

If Mr Edwards supports Hillary, it will make for an ugly battle this summer.

Posted by: Dan | Apr 29, 2008 5:57:05 PM

Gaias Child,
'As Obama responds to the pastor whose motor mouth is so divisive and destructive, Obama again shows his durable authenticity and dignity as well as strength."---------
------------------
That pastor hasn't changed, you are just seeing the REAL him. Obama is not durable and authentic. He will throw anyone under the bus he needs to. He has not dignity or strength, if he did he would be the nominee by now. People aren't buying what he is selling.

Posted by: J | Apr 29, 2008 6:01:12 PM

Obama got two endorsements as well, one from Iowa, the other from Kentucky.

If Edwards endorses hillary his entire platform was nothing but a lie. So go ahead John, endorse hillary....

I noticed just how excited all the hillary supporters get over endorsements....especially from those that don't mean anything.

And I'm waiting for the hillary sheeple to tell me how she wins when the republicans come out in droves against her. Remember, bill disgraced OUR house, and now those of you who suffer from selective amnesia want to put them BACK in OUR house. Their permission slip needs to come from the ones who defended them to the end....did you happen to forget who those people are??

Posted by: LA in Indiana | Apr 29, 2008 6:01:33 PM

As an Obama supporter, I certainly respect Elizabeth Edwards to choose to support Hillary Clinton and John Edwards right support her as well if that's what he chooses to do, but just do it already and quit with the cat and mouse game. It's not necessary. Let's just move on with this thing already.

Posted by: chelle | Apr 29, 2008 6:06:16 PM

That 109 million was over 8 years, most of it coming from Bill Clintons book deals. Those 2 have worked their entire lives so who cares how much they make. Both started out somewhat poor and made something of themselves. Get over it.

Posted by: j | Apr 29, 2008 6:06:42 PM

As an Obama supporter, I certainly respect Elizabeth Edwards *RIGHT* to choose to support Hillary Clinton and John Edwards right *to* support her as well if that's what he chooses to do, but just do it already and quit with the cat and mouse game. It's not necessary. Let's just move on with this thing already. - typos....geesh

Posted by: chelle | Apr 29, 2008 6:11:36 PM

hillary can't close the deal because of bill.

And she's already attempting 'back door' deals to try to win this nomination by continuing to work on MI and FL.

she has no intention of dropping out.

Posted by: LA in Indiana | Apr 29, 2008 6:12:26 PM

Justinteim | ,
Because if all this garbage came out in the beginning instead of now the MSM glorifying Obama, she would have the nomination. It's about time they are fair about their negativity against the candidates.

Posted by: J | Apr 29, 2008 6:15:51 PM

I can see the Obama supporters comments coming if Elizabeth states her support for Hillary and not Obama. Who cares? But then, when Ted Kennedy or Carter endorsed Obama it was really important.

Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | Apr 29, 2008 6:20:56 PM

Elizabeth, do the right thing and endorse Hillary before it is to late.

Posted by: Chris | Apr 29, 2008 6:22:04 PM

I do not understand, what these" super people" are trying to say?
To demonstrate their importants?

Ordinary people are making their choices, and those edwards&C - they are playing games .
That is the exact Elitism. Pure Elitism of Edwards to speculate about decision to make.
If You can NOT to make it , how did You pretend to run for Presidency????

Shame on Edwards and NO respect.

Posted by: LINDA,FL | Apr 29, 2008 6:22:52 PM

There is no need to put herself in the firing line!

Obama has just signed his own political death sentence by denouncing Wright, the African-American voters, and his Church!

WRIGHT was RIGHT, Obama IS a POLITICIAN after all... he says what he has to say, to get elected.

It's over, and he needs to step down.

Posted by: GS | Apr 29, 2008 6:26:35 PM

Shame on her. She, out of everyone, knows better and to make a decision based on health care alone shows her stupidity.

Posted by: Brian | Apr 29, 2008 6:27:50 PM

Brian,
Elizabeth Edwards is by no means stupid. Put yourself in her position and the position of many other Americans on the subject of health care. You are showing your stupidity by making such a statement.

Posted by: J | Apr 29, 2008 6:33:26 PM

What is Elizabeth Edward's support help? Not much -- she really isn't significant.

Posted by: A | Apr 29, 2008 6:40:43 PM

Anyone Elizabeth Edwards endorses matters very much to me. Of course, she supports the Clinton Healthcare Plan, Hillary deeply "borrowed" most of it from John's campaign when pressed to adopt one by the poll numbers.
Elizabeth and John love and honor the same things, the same ideals, as I do. They have always addressed me as a peer, valued me, been honest with me, and made their campaign about our issues.
I suspect they will both support the candidate who has and will continue to honor their commitments to us, the ordinary people, and will best represent us and our voice once in office. As a fellow North Carolinian, I care very much what both of them have decided and why. I want to know who they think we, all of us, can best work with to address, define and resolve our present and future problems because they have demonstrated the most understanding of how that SHOULD work so far.

Posted by: NoNewName | Apr 29, 2008 6:42:57 PM

Elizabeth Edwards is a very erudite individual that can run circles around Obama as far as knowing all the issues and knowing what is best I will wait with bated breathe to hear who she endorses I suspect its Hillary Clinton too along with Gov Easley it will make her at least break even in NC with Obama and thats bad news for him which is good news

Posted by: staniam | Apr 29, 2008 6:55:44 PM

The DCC called to ask me for a contribution today and I let them know my party loyalty is on the line with this. If a handful of party insiders choose to overthrow the will of the electorate, they lose me.

Posted by: seesee | Apr 29, 2008 7:00:28 PM

I hope Elizabeth Edwards endorses Hillary as well. She knows the issues, she is articulate and very intelligent. I have a lot of respect for her and John Edwards.

Posted by: J | Apr 29, 2008 7:04:59 PM

um seesee


its the Dccc and the DNC that are silently trying to close down the process and make Obama the candidate now they are conficted cause they cannot nominate a candidate like that for the general election now I take no glee in it but I cant tell people enough I told you so

Posted by: staniam | Apr 29, 2008 7:05:05 PM

I, too, hope that Elizabeth Edwards endorses Senator Clinton. The tide is turning! Hillary stands for every person who's been counted out, but who wins because she didn't listen to the naysayers...

Posted by: april | Apr 29, 2008 7:05:30 PM

Jim Jones,
Go drink some tainted kool aid with your cult followers. PA showed that he can't win the big states. 7 out of 67 counties is pretty poor. He won't win PA if he is the nominee. Every state with the exception of one or two that had primaries and not caucuses he LOST. To me the caucuses aren't the will of ALL voters.

Posted by: J | Apr 29, 2008 7:22:43 PM

Jim Jones

You probably haven't read the newspapers but this nominating will be decided for the most part by the superdeligates and not the pledge delegates who have pretty much canceled each other out. Thought you'd like to know.

Posted by: A | Apr 29, 2008 7:24:46 PM

Clinton will lead in every poll. Just tell the truth people! The Edwards should follow their heart to speak out to endorse Clinton.

Posted by: D | Apr 29, 2008 7:25:00 PM

If Elizabeth Edwards endorses H.R.C. it will prove one thing. She is a hypocrite. How can someone who ran around the country in the past 2 elections proclaiming she was for the poor and working class people endorse someone who is married to the biggest panderer in political history. H.R.C. has said and is proving that she will do anything to win. The gas tax holiday is pandering and a financial disaster. She couldn't get her health care passed. She was involved in political malfeasance and with 100 million dollars in earnings, not the least concerned with the plight of the ordinary person. It's all about her (and him), and if that is the choice Ms. Edwards makes, then we know a lot more about her true colors tan we imagined.

Posted by: M Weifers | Apr 29, 2008 7:25:22 PM

staniam: the will of the dem majority electorate is w/ Obama. He has won more states, more delegates and the more votes. The only way Clinton gets the nomination at this point is if party insiders overturn the primary contest results. Millions of ordinary people like me have given what we can to support Obama. If the party let's us down (and it is in their hands now) I will no longer support them. ANd as for electability in the GE, Obama continues to outpace Clinton vs. McCain.

Posted by: seesee | Apr 29, 2008 7:32:33 PM

seesee,
That all depends on if they include FL and MI. He is so damaged now if they have him as the nominee he won't win the GE. You need 2025 to win. Neither have that and neither will. You don't win by being ahead. The superdelegates will decide this.

Posted by: j | Apr 29, 2008 7:40:10 PM

Jim Jones -- Then why is Obama (aka Soetoro) sinking like a rock in the polls?

Posted by: A | Apr 29, 2008 7:43:23 PM

Does Mrs. Edwards even have an endorsement to make that anybody cares about? Ex-Senator Edwards would have an important endorsement and I assume he's a Super-Delegate. Is she? If she's not, what game is she playing? John needs to come out and endorse. It would be important. So what that she liked HRC's HC plan? Last I checked, this was the USA and she will not ever be able to pass a plan mandating the purchase of private market health insurance or garnish my wages to make me do it? What? Sorry, her plan is flawed from the beginning. I don't care how much money she's receiving from the insurance industry who must love the plan! Make people pay me for my product! Too easy. How about endorsing the single-payor plan HR676 that Kucinch supports. It the only true health care plan. Physician endorsed.

Posted by: LFlynt | Apr 29, 2008 7:43:43 PM

Which part of neither can win without the super delegates don't you people get? You don't win just because you are ahead.

There is a magic number that you must hit. Neither can do that. Let's take this to the convention and may the best woman win.

Posted by: J | Apr 29, 2008 7:58:10 PM

Here is what NEEDS to happen. Edwards and Obama make a deal. The deal. Edwards thows his support to Obama, Obama brings Edwards into Obama's "brand" in exchange for the VP spot in 2008. Obama-Edwards wins the white house. 2008-20012 Obama is POTUS and Edwards is VP. 20012-2014 Edwards is POTUS and Obama is the VP. That would make Obama the first Black POTUS and Edwards would be one of the FEW who have been BOTH POTUS and VP. That would be a "win win" for America.

Posted by: MJG | Apr 29, 2008 7:59:24 PM

j: Obama has been polling even or ahead in MI without having campaigned there. Now, Hillary wants to count the invalid MI primary results where Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot, but exclude individual caucus votes in the popular vote total. That isn't 'every vote counts' it's win at all cost and democracy be damned.

Posted by: seesee | Apr 29, 2008 8:01:14 PM

I think Elizabeth Edwards should endorse Obama because if she doesnt,Obama will give her the middle finger, like he did to Hllary

Posted by: Tom | Apr 29, 2008 8:08:59 PM

Jim Jones,
Caucuses aren't in the GE. He has only won mostly caucus states(there are a few where there were primaries 1 maybe 2). Correct me if I am wrong.


Posted by: J | Apr 29, 2008 8:09:22 PM

The Romans and Egptians used to make these kind of deals all the time. Share some of the power by working with others or lose it all by being greedy and short sighted. The DNC needs to setup a deal that involves Obama and Edwards pronto, like yesterday. If the DNC does not do this the Dems WILL lose in November and McCain will be POTUS.

HRC supporter are proud of her and want to see her win. Obama's supporters are proud of him and beleive that he will make change. Both od these factions WILL be hurt when their candidate loses the nonimation. They will NOT vote sigularly or Obama or HRC. Edwards is a good "bridge" to victory for the Dems.

Edwards can head the ticket in 2008, but his payoff could be a win as VP on a historic 2008 ticket AND the Dem nom in 20012 (without all of this 2008 nonsense). Edwards would make this deal in a "New York" minute. The DNC simply needs to present it to him (Edwards).

Posted by: MJG | Apr 29, 2008 8:09:23 PM

My bad, I ment to say Edwards CAN'T head the ticket in 2008.

Posted by: MJG | Apr 29, 2008 8:10:58 PM

see seee,
To bad he took his name off the ballot. Like I said NEITHER can win the 2025. Off to the convention.

Posted by: J | Apr 29, 2008 8:11:32 PM

J - Please go back and read my response to you.

This is the Primary. Primaries have one set of rules as determined by each state and the national party.
The General Election has another set of rules as determined by the constitution and national law.

No one would go out and play Baseball with a hockey stick. This is no different.

Again, Clinton and Obama have each won 15 out of 30 primaries. That means that they are equal in this regard because 15 = 15.

I'm not making this stuff up to cause you to doubt your candidate. Please read the post, follow the link, and count up the wins and losses for yourself.

Here's the link again in case you lost it:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate.counter/index.html

Thanks!

Posted by: Jim Jones | Apr 29, 2008 8:22:54 PM

Ok Jim Jones in stupid terms just for you.Caucus states, not all people can vote because of different circumstances because of the limited time frame they are set in, so all the people's voices are not heard.

States like PA,etc you go into a little thing that is covered and you use a touch screen to place your vote (more fair). Get it?
He has only won caucus states with the exception of a couple.

Posted by: J | Apr 29, 2008 8:33:44 PM

After talking with many many early voters who have since changed their minds...originally Obamicans, now Obamacan'ts....it is painfully clear that the caucus procedure has hurt the nomination process. I am wholeheartedly SICK of the Obama Girls and Obama Boys who joined in this rock star movement with little or no education on what it takes to be President - with no more than stars in their eyes for this "Yes we can" crap. It takes more than a wonderful orator, more than a crowd pleaser, more than an inexperienced lawmaker who punches in "present" at a vote. I am tired of "this is what I did in Chicago"...Chicago is not the entire country. It takes a person with steel and resolve, tenacity that doesn't quit, inside knowledge of the Country and politics in order to know how to change things. None of which can be attributed to O. He'd make a good VP for 8 years while he actually truly learns the ropes and then, maybe then, will he be a viable and trusted candidate.

All the "lies" - by both candidates - are probably words taken out of context and blown up by the media.

If the Supers have a brain in their heads, they will refuse to go with the tide of hype and realize that O is just as inexperienced and threatening as Bush. Just because early votes came in on the O side (many of whom have changed their minds I remind you) doesn't mean they should ignore the reality of the future and the damage an unproven leader can do.

Posted by: P | Apr 29, 2008 8:35:23 PM

I certainly hope that she does endorse Hillary. This Obama all of a sudden being outraged is a load of you know what. Are you telling me he sat their for 20 years an didn't notice?
Hillary 08

Posted by: Ken | Apr 29, 2008 8:44:32 PM

Okay, J, I think your post speaks for itself.

Since you are not following the link, here's the summary for you. And it's actually Obama 15, Clinton 14.


Obama Primary Wins (15)
MI, VT, MD, IL, GA, AL, WI, DC, VA, LA, UT, MO, CT, DE, SC
Obama Caucus Wins (14)
TX, HI, WY, WA, NE, MI, AL, ID, KS, ND, CO, IA

Clinton Primary Wins (14)
PA, TX, RI, OH, TN, NM, AR, CA, OK, AK, NY, MA, NJ, NH
Clinton Caucus Wins (1)
NV


Everyone can vote in a caucus. Both parties use them as ways to diversify the selection process in a primary season. It a concept akin to the balance of power set forth by the founders. That's why we have a Senate and House - both the general public and dialed in loyalists get their say in the process.

Posted by: Jim Jones | Apr 29, 2008 8:51:43 PM

P: You're right, education does matter. Check this out:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/106381/Obama-Education-Gap-Extends-General-Election.aspx
http://www.gallup.com/poll/106360/Obama-Dominates-Clinton-Among-College-Graduates.aspx

It's like Obama has convinced the majority of college grads to vote for him because they're dumb.

And Hillary has only convinced those with a high school degree (or drop outs) to vote for her because they're all geniuses.

Great argument. You're definitely backing the right candidate.

OBAMA '08

Posted by: LMNOP | Apr 29, 2008 8:56:18 PM

Jim Jones,
Everyone can vote in a caucus. Both parties use them as ways to diversify the selection process in a primary season. It a concept akin to the balance of power set forth by the founders. That's why we have a Senate and House - both the general public and dialed in loyalists get their say in the process.----------
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That's baloney. What about people who work 2 jobs, the elderly. It is not set up for ALL people to vote. There is a specific time frame you must go to the caucus in which may be from 2-4 hours or more. In states like PA it is open from 7 am -8pm. Which is more fair? Believe whatever you want, you are an ObamaBOT and no amount of explaining will get you to realize it is not the will of ALL voters.

Obama is not electable. Plain and simple.