No he just sat in the mans church he was Obama's pastor like an Uncle it is really insulting to think you can fool people with bs. Gov. of NC is to endorse Clinton.

Obama wanted Wright to speak for him for twenty years as his pastor. He wanted Wright to speak for him as his friend, "uncle," and spiritual advisor during his Illinois and US senate campaigns and for the first year of this presidential primary. He wanted Wright to speak for his children by baptizing them. He wanted Wright to speak for him by marring him to Michele. Suddenly now, when he could lose the nomination, he says Wright doesn't speak for him.

I think this IS a strategy between Wright and Obama. Funny he says, " you can see we are not coordinating with him." As they say in the movies, this is to easy, too pat. This way, Obama can distance himself from current remarks and take the heat off of his 20 years when he listened to other remarks. After seeing how Obama's campaign started the whole race thing, I don't put anything past his campaign.

Rev. Wright should shut up, period. In fact, someone needs to go hide that MOFO in a cage. Anyway, we'll see what happens. I have become sick of this entire Presidential campaign. No wonder hardly anyone i know gives a f*ck. The media and that bastard, Rev. Wright, have turned this thing into a soap opera.

I really don't think the president can bring that much change in Washington the whole place needs cleaned we should vote everyone that has been there since the sixty's and seventy's out.

Mr. Obama has been an active member of this cult
for 20 years and is clearly still under
its influence.

WOW...the more I read these blog comments, the more I realize there are many disillousioned Americans out there than I thought.
If you do not like Obama, then simply don't vote for him, but it is counterproductive to spend countless hours saying "how could sit in church and listen to these hate sermons", when most of the persons speaking against Wright probably have NEVER heard of him until recently.
To be responsible is to form an opinion of someone based on the facts that you have grown to know and not just pieces of the facts that you have been fed.

There is nothing hateful about what Wright says. It is probably offensive to some, which is understandable, but sometimes the truth does not come in a comfortable cute package.
I've found more hate-filled anti-American words in these messages boards than in the snippets of Wright's speeches. The fact that we do not embrace differences (whether it be diffrences in races, cultures, backgrounds, environments, and/or opinions), is what still feeds many of the problems in America...

@ rs: You may be right. This could all be an attempt to galvanize black voters to support Barrack. The problem is that many African American parishioners and pastors are now saying today on the various news shows that Wright is divisive, and that Barrack's association with him creates doubt as to his viability as the democratic nominee. Even if Obama does "disown" Wright, the damage has been done.

The only reason this is still in the news is because you at ABC news and the other television, radio and news papers will not let it go away. I am watching ABC world news with Stephanapolis and listened to the clips he play of Rev. Wright and am sickened by his lame attempts to make the Reverends statements seem controversial and inappropriate when they clearly are not! Let it go it is not important to this election. Or lets start hearing about McCains association with his controversial religious supporters! Thank you.

Obama is not being judged as an
average american but righfully so
as an applicant for Commander in Chief...

That is why we are hard on him
and why his unusual profile
and hypocritical passive behavior is high cause
for concern.

Okay, let's try this again. The author of the above article says that Wright "argued" that many critics have not heard all of his sermons and that the media have twisted his words. This is yet another example of the mainstream media's duplicity. First, can anyone doubt that a great many people (including among Wright's critics) have not heard his entire sermons or even anything from them other than the brief snippets we've all heard? Second, can anyone who listens to extended excerpts available on the Internet have any doubt that the meaning of the brief sound bites we've all heard has been misrepresented?

ebony say - "Obama is not being judged as an average american but righfully so
as an applicant for Commander in Chief..."

This is a fair point. Obama is way ahead and the only way Hills can win is by burning down her own party and swiping the nomination in the smoke filled room.

So there are going to be more stories on Obama.

How many stories are there about Mike Gravel? Not many, because he does not have a chance to be president.

Eb's other sentence is vacuous, however.

Okay, let's try this again. The author of the above article says that Wright "argued" that many critics have not heard all of his sermons and that the media have twisted his words. This is yet another example of the mainstream media's duplicity. First, can anyone doubt that a great many people (including among Wright's critics) have not heard his entire sermons or even anything from them other than the brief snippets we've all heard? Second, can anyone who listens to extended excerpts available on the Internet have any doubt that the meaning of the brief sound bites we've all heard has been misrepresented?

Obama says Rev. Wright does not "reflect my values or concerns" --- if this is so, why did he spend 20 years in this church and why would he have his children listen to this type of hatred for America each Sunday? This did not just happen overnight--you can listen to this type of sermon (they are taped) for years!

We are facing critical changes in our country. Obama is not the man to fix these cracks---his very speech and actions are encouraging huge cracks and dividing this country. Obama doesn't have to wear the American Pin out of "respect". Obama can forget to place his hand over his heart "out of respect",these are just symbols important to some, others do not care. He can have laspes of memory when it comes to his close friend Rezko (on trial for fraud), or lapses of memory in meeting a billionaire from Iraq at Rezko's home before his funding began to run for Senator of Illinois, he can condemn, denounce or "reject" constantly things that do not make him look good but when all is said and done ---you are known by the company you keep. We all know now that Rezko was the largest donor to Obama's senate campaign and Rezko even broke federal laws by giving money to another individual to say it was from him to make sure that Obama had more than enough money to win---more will likely come out in this trial---generally people that are this devious have a lot of skeletons in their closets. So if Obama is the nominee and more comes out he will never be elected. John McCain will be elected --the war in Iraq will continue, the problems facing us today will continue, American's will have no health care (even Obama's plan fails and millions of Americans (your families, friends and neighbors)will still be without health care and in a nation as great as ours this is deplorable and unacceptable.

It is too late for Obama to distance himself from the Wrong Reverend Wright. The American Public will not buy it this time. Obama's achilles heel is that he allows a problem to get to critical mass before he addresses it. Pleaae, no more speeches, no more denials about Wright not being a reflection of the type of man he is. It is just not believeable. Obama should have known what kind of man Wright was anyway, when after offering spiritual counseling to the Clintons, he then used what he knew about them to create a sermon about them. That's your karma, Obama, coming back to bite you in the butt.

A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08

Wright is only Obama's former pastor because he retired....not because Obama had left the church or anything...

You know I kind of feel sorry for all of the hopeful optimists who have been bamboozled by Obama, but I have even more sympathy for his two young children who have been sheltered by a church of hate for so long and then being exposed to a media blitz that includes their father, mother, and pastor that paints Obama as a liar, a mother who is bitter and insensitive, and a hateful racist pastor who hates the US.
I would not want my children exposed to such filth in the first place, but to know the kind of humiliation and torment they would have to endure when such information became public is unspeakable!
Shame on the Obama's for attempting to pull the wool over America's eyes...shame on them for subjecting their innocent girls to such torture!

how can anything obama does be called
positive "leadership"....///

His whole campaign has made me and my family ill...

Any and every white candidate with a similarr relationship with a "white" Wright would of been driven out long ago by the media, Obama, Sharpton, Jackson and the rest.

it is 100% because of obama's past actions that
Mr. Wright's smut is on American
television...

Mr. Obama is very bad news...

Lol Omentum:

Such intense denial!

Are you actually attempting to spin that Obama and his family attending Wright's sermons for 20 years had absolutely NO influence on his thinking whatsoever? And that now Wright is involved with some conspiracy just to bring Obama down?

That is some funny stuff!

Just for the record I am a registered Liberal who supported Obama in the beginning until I read about his ties with Rezco, Ayers, and what he subjected his children to at Wright's church. Not to mention the 21 debates he had to prove himself nationally and failed miserably. I was severely disappointed. Yes for those who still support him they continue to be bamboozled, conned, manipulated however you wish to phrase it. The case against Obama in higher office becomes clearer and clear everyday!
I will vote anyone else other than Obama.

Can we please get past this fool. What Rev Wright says should mean nothing when compared with the problems facing America. So a preacher says from the pulpit that the American government is to blame for things. How is that different that a pastor blaming gays or sex for hurricanes or terrorist attacks. Please do not try to rationalize. The truth is there is no difference.

Here is how the situation should be handled: The left will not hold McCain liable for his crazy pastors if the Right will do the same with Wright. The fact is that what Wright is saying is no less offensive than that Haege or any other evangelical hate monger.

Please people and media, let the candidates tell me how my gas prices will be lowered, why my house is worth less now than why I bought, it and why this generation will be worse off than thier parents. Let's deal with issues, not the same divisive politics that has run us into the ground for the past 15 years!

Because the Republicans and Hillary as well as the corporate media has nothing to run on other than things like this...

ebony: Don't get too excited about a the NC Gov. going for Clinton. The Governor of Maryland also threw his support behind Clinton, and she was clobbered in his state.

It is a little too late for Obama to dissociate from the Pastor. He had 20 years to do that. The Pastor seems to have a louder voice and control over Obama.

The other probelm is that the Democrats are held to a different standard. If they do not go to church they get killed. If they go to church, they get killed.

Once again, and I beleive I posted this here when this story first broke, if Wright was a white pastor from a white evangelical church, this is a non-story. It looks like the challenge from Obama's speech on race is jsut to hard for us now.

I am getting sick and tired about hearing about Wright 24 hrs. a day...The most laughable thing is whenever Fox News talks baout him, they put uo ELECTION ALERT in big letters on the screen, as if he's the one who's running for president.

The amazing thing to me is that those using this issue to bask Obama have not even taken the time to listen to the whole sermon. While sensastionalist in tone, it was far from hateful or unpatriotic. America was built on the ideals of freedom of speech; how could people expect victims of injustice (slavery) to not hold some degree of bitterness. I believe that many uneducated and older less race tolerant people are using this issue to justify their not voting for African American candidate. Obama is by far the class of the 3 remaining candidates.

Ron,
Governor O'Malley of MD helped Hillary win in NH and PA. and NC is a moderate conservative state unlike MD which is mostly blacks and latte liberals.

and of course MD was pre-Wright. pre-PA debate.

Thanks geevil for labeling my state. Are you from here as well. If you remember we elected a republican gov before O'Malley. Even after Wright and the Pa debate the majority is still behind Obama.

somebody explain to me why the black community chooses to allow such wackos to represent them and guide their spiritual communities instead of leaders like Carver or Obama. Obama has sucessfully pulled himself up by his bootstraps where these wacko pastors remain only by holding the rest of our African brother's down!

Doesn't matter which Democrat wins NC. The state will go to McCain like most of Obama's.

In my view Rev Wright is NOT hurting Obama by speaking publicly. Wright had no choice but to defend himself thanks to corporate media stoking the fire over the last several weeks. Staying underground proved to help Clinton as we saw in PA. The corporate media played a two part attack on Obama. One being the obvious Obama - Rev Wright association and the other being that Obama 'as a newcomer to the Senate' is not as well known as Clinton and needs to be fully disclosed to Americans. Wright is basically stomping on the fire by allowing all Americans a personal view into his life while diffusing the issue from the Republicans in the general election. Wright is also becoming human for all those who choose not see him as human (Invisible Man, Ellison). At the same time Wright is providing full disclosure on his thoughts and ideas for everyone to exploit. In fact, corporate media will have to rewrite the headlines and spin it in a new direction (for better or worse).

Obama represents the power of the people. We will own this government when he gets elected.

Clinton represents concentration of power in the hands of the few.

Wright is just a moth in the wind. He'll be gone tomorrow.

Random thoughts:

Hillary is has sold her soul to the devil and will do whatever - ANYTHING - to win the Democratic nomination (and the General Election).

Obama represents the better part of the Democratic party - our truest selves, our fondest hopes.

In a word

Hillary=FDR & Truman

Obama=Adlai Stevenson

Hillary=JFK and the Kennedy "mafia"

Obama=Eugene McCarthy

Obama=George McGovern

Obama=Dukakis

Hillary=The Clintons :-)

Hillary=The Clintons (& Al Gore):-)

Hillary=Al Gore, but Obama=Ralph Nader & Howard Dean

Obama in the GE = McCain will be elected.

lol Ralph sounds disgruntled.

ormental?
I am curious as to where you buy your brushes or your broads? Wright spake for the black church community yesterday. The pastors applauded him! Usually that is a sign of approval and direction. Until you treat the plague of power brokers who thrive on the continued subjigation of their constituency there will be no progress. The proof of this is reflected in how Obama has been drawn down in this muck

"Any and every white candidate with a similarr relationship with a "white" Wright would of been driven out long ago by the media, Obama, Sharpton, Jackson and the rest."

Posted by: geevill | Apr 28, 2008 7:19:01 PM

Wrong, so wrong. McCain openly sought out and proudly welcomed Hagee's support, yet the media makes nothing of that so called man of God's blatant hate speech. Like so many Obama haters, you, geevill, simply use the same lies over and over. Some of Wright's words may be upsetting when twisted out of context, but he is not a racist, not a hater, not a divider, and that could not be more clear in his sermons. I would go to his church, and I'm a white middle-aged male small business owner and registered Republican who is ashamed of what the Republican party has done to this country. I'm certainly not a Hillary fan, so I have to go with Obama and hope he gets enough support after taking office to start getting things turned around.

oh my Omentum.....lol I had a birthday party yesterday, with a house full of women and men who are voting for Obama. There are so many comments and so many opinions....you might consider my opinion "radical" because I believe Wright is correct, but no one wants to hear the truth.

I believe he had his 15 minutes and its time for him to step off and away.

I don't believe Obama holds Wrights views at all. And I think its sad that people are trying to make Obama responsible for his pastors words. I, and all the people I know, are willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt.

There is a double standard for Obama.

He knows it, and most honest people know it.

Omentum,
Wright just proved Obama's assessment right on.
He said Wright was like an old uncle, who sometimes says things off the cuff. But he said he disagrees with some of what he says.
There is nothing wrong with respecting the man, but not respecting his views or some of the things he says.

The church is more than its pastor.

"Reverend" Wright and his supporters are a sad commentary on liberalism in america. The left has destroyed education in this country and allowed the lowest common demoninator to rise to the pulpit and is now knocking on the doors of power.

Conspiracy theories are the province of the imbecile. But when the mob has a collective I.Q. of 10 they empower the lunatic rantings of someone like "Reverend" Wright.

That anyone could sit and listen to that tripe for 20 years is beyond belief.

Is " Theology of liberation " bad Omen for America ?

Machiavelli,

Obama has nothing in common with Ralph Nader except that both went to Harvard.

Nader did a lot for people (free information act, car safety, clean air and water acts, endless consumer agencies), what did Obama?

Agree, Obama is like Howard but also like his pal Nacy Pelosi.

They drink beer, and eat up her lies!

a,
Obama supporters drink Koolaid not lattes.

LA in Indiana,
That was his name before it was changed. Barry Soetoro.

@magda:

those really were just random thoughts.

I believe the Democratic party is neatly divided between "pragmatists" (sometimes called centrists) who get elected, and idealists (sometimes called the left-wing of the party) who represent the party's best ideals - but who don't get elected.

I mention Nader because I think he stands squarely in the far-left of the party, but because some Democrats voted their "hearts" in 2000 (and voted for Nader), Bush won the election.

I worry we are about to do the same with Obama. ;-(.

The only thing they have been able to "dig up" on Obama is a speech he gave in 1995. Which sounds exactly like what he has been saying in 2008.

So the only thing they have to use is guilt by association.

I hope we will all continue to love each other and to strive to live in unity together -- one people on this beautiful planet. Rev. Wright is so out of touch with nearly four decades of people proactively pulling together, to be there for each other's children, and to be good stewards on this earth. Hillary '08

And thats great Bishop, I feel your pain, as I am already done with the democratic party. Especially after watching hillary clinton tear down her opponent. She's running like a republican so I don't believe she deserves my vote. And I have made the decision to not give her my vote. Even if she steals the nomination, or it is given to her, I will not vote for her.
I don't believe bill clinton deserves a third term.

Machiavelli,

Nader is an independent associated with progressives although he describes himself as a core liberal.

I believe that middle of the road will be the major factor but some will vote for third party candidates.

Good luck with your candidate..

Omentum,

I also believe that the republican party will come out in droves if hillary is the nominee.

bill clinton is the reason we got george bush, and he disgraced the white house. Its funny how most people don't look at it this way, but we vote our president into office, and he has the opportunity to live in the white house, so that house is really OUR house. So who gave bill clinton permission to disgrace OUR house? And why are we the people willing to give him the opportunity to go BACK into the white house? I don't believe he deserves to go back, as he had his chance to make a difference and he did what was important to him, not for the people.

@magda:

I am a MI democrat, i.e. I have no candidate and no say in who the DNC nominates.

I'll be delighted to work on Obama's campaign in the GE if he can convince the Super Delegates that he is the guy to defeat McCain.

I'm just a little bit worried he isn't.

LA in Indiana, I completely agree with you. People really do forget why we got Bush. The republicans hate the Clintons and will never let them back in the white house. And they say Obama is unelectable. They need a wake up call.

Don't be fooled Omentum....the republicans will come out in force to keep their way of life at the forefront. Most republicans have made so much money on the backs of working class families and I don't think they're ready to lose their current status in this country. They're not concerned how we look to the world, as long as their pockets continue to be lined.
I consider myself extremely fortunate, but I have family members and friends that have not be as fortunate, so my fight is always for them.

All those voters that will come out to vote anti Obama, they probably wouldn't have voted for him anyway.

listentotherev and scary... you are two stupid for your own good... when wright says that obama is a politician and has to say what he says, he is not condemning obama, he is empathizing with his situation being forced to distance himself from him... this is more racism!! face it, none of the people on this blog condemning wright and obama are black, they are WHITE... i'm convinced that if jesus were alive today he would be leveled as a 'far left liberal' by fox news and the rest of the pseudo news stations, as well as idiot republicans

white male here voting for obama and not offended one iota by wright... the only thing wright hates is the oppressive policies of this country, and intolerance... i hate those things too... that's what he wants god to damn... and i think jesus would agree

Not one thing Reverend Wright has said (from the ENTIRE sermon) is false. If the media want to call him extreme, that implies they have their own axe to grind. George W. Bush is a War Criminal. We don't need to try and convict him to know that he is a War Criminal; all we have to do is look at the laws on the books and what he did, and we're finished. If I call Bush a WAR CRIMINAL, is that INFLAMMATORY? Is that EXTREME? Can the TRUTH be INFLAMMATORY? WHO SAYS SO? Oh - the CORPORATE MEDIA say so. I get it: if we want UNPREJUDICED NEWS, we will have to get it from OUTSIDE AMERICA. Read the latest version of Ben Bagdikian's "The New Media Monopoly". Read Joel Bakan's "The Corporation" or watch the documentary. HUNDREDS OF BOOKS explain what Wright is saying but NOBODY IN THE MEDIA WILL ADMIT TO HAVING READ ANY OF THEM. All the rhetoric about Wright is a**holes playing on the minds of people they hope they made stupid enough by now (watching the drivel we call "news" in this country for the last 15 years.)

9/11 was an inside job - and 50% of Americans suspect so. Is that INFLAMMATORY? It happens to be TRUE whether my saying so is "extreme" or not.

The real criminals in this country are those who try to stop us from thinking for ourselves: the "fourth estate" is really the "fifth column" - we'd be better off ignoring the Times and Post into bankruptcy, to punish them for LYING to us. N.Korea helpd Syria with a reactor? NONSENSE and B.S. I'll believe it when you PROVE IT - not when you WAVE YOUR HANDS and MAKE SH*T UP. I'm not bothered by Iran AT ALL.

Someone who has strong opinions (based on FACTS) and they try to tear the guy to pieces. Free Speech is valued in this country My A**. But they wouldn't last ONE MINUTE in a debate with Wright - and they won't offer to debate him either. It's easier to call him names and then go hide, letting the vicious trolls they've created do their dirty work for them. Brown Shirts = Fascism and harassing people who think = Animal Farm.

THAT'S NOT MY COUNTRY.

Obama should suspend his campaign forthwith!!!!! this is a travesty!

Funny to watch the press talk about what Obama can still do to win....it's reaching absurd levels. There is NO way he can win the general. If the Dems nominate him, they better pray to the McGovern Gods to take pity. And interesting that the Obama media (and by that I mean the U.S. press corp) suddenly thinks Wright is an egomanic out to hurt Obama. Just weeks ago, Wright was considered a misunderstood pastor of a church rooted in "black liberation theology" and a person we all needed to just learn to understand. Now that the press club performace threatens to disqualify Obama, suddenly Wright is a nutcase. Why?

Please stop tossing out the comments at folks that they ONLY heard Wrightwrong's "snippets." He is the one who led me to Cone's book on the Black "Religion"........Wrightwrong is a charlatan....if I sat in a pew in his church for SPIRITUAL reasons and listened to his jibberish, I would not have been there for the next 19 years (unlike somebody we all know who sat around for the full INDOCTRINATION)as I would have walked out on him during one of his first year's "snippets." I don't go to church for political ragtime...I guess some do.

Find anything that Wright said that is untrue. You won't. People here who scream IN ALL CAPS about what Wright said and meant have paid attention to Nothing (but Fox, perhaps.)

It's a conflict between people who want to be told by the media how to think, and people who think for themselves. The scary thing is that the people who want to "follow the leader" are growing in number - and they don't care how many thinking people they have to push out of the way to give the leader what the leader wants.

The media LIES to you. The latest story about N.Korea helping Syria with a reactor, for example, is concocted and meaningless, but they keep putting it in the news - the proof? Tourist photos by an Israeli spy, of a place with no fortification and no security? Yet they expect you to believe it really happened. And sadly, too many people do.

The war in Iraq was and remains ILLEGAL under U.S. and International law. Anyone who wants to continue it should submit themselves to the Hague for prosecution. Anyone who wants to continue it should have their head examined - it'll be full of propaganda, often hard to wash out.

I want to know why we have Rev. Wright every word shown 24-7? Is it for Ratings or Brain washing. Hillary and MCcain have said some Outrageous things. And it is swepted under the rug.America home of the Free. Tis, Tis

I am very concerned about the tone of this discourse. That an important election causes flamboyant namecalling and blaming such as written here is no less disturbing to me than the Rev. Wright's divisive comments. We argue about substance, but style and tact--or lack of it-also matter. It matters in human relationships and even more, it seems to me, in public speaking that can be viewed and interpreted so variously.
Rev. Wright is correct that the media picked snippets. But his insistance in repeating these as personal beliefs is not an interpretation by the media. That he defends his style of preaching which is not intended to be tactful by his own admission and then blames others for its misinterpretation is having it both ways. And he gets to call folks who challenge him racist on top of that!
There are many Americans who have watched the complete sermons, as I have, who are media savvy and watched his interview with Moyers on PBS and numerous online videos and commentary by those who agree and disagree with Wright's views. And those educated folks still disagree with one another in what was said and what the truth is!
So when one is dealing with controversial issues and emotional territory, it behooves one to proceed with caution, it seems to me. Rev. Wright's association with Sen. Obama and his personal relationship with him demand some respectful tact. That he chooses to be less than discreet is sad, and I am sympathetic to the Senator in this public difficulty.
That said, Sen. Obama has not proved to me that he can hold back the kind of "black anger" that has circulated in the campaign--first appearing from Jesse Jackson's unjust comments about Sen. Clinton's remarks on LBJ--also played in full on Moyers' program.
There has been a lot of discussion, too, about the negativity between the Obama and Clinton campaigns. Nonsense! They like and respect each other very much, are not easily injured, have proclaimed their support of the other after the nomination is secured! But they both play the political game: "Pick me!"
As Americans we need to become more media savvy, listen to all sides, forego the "my party right or wrong" mindset, and select the person who can protect America, her values, and promote an improvement in the lives of the poor and marginalized. Our new President will appoint judges and represent us abroad. Who can best do all this? I believe it is Senator Clinton, but I have been wrong in the past! All I know is that I will read and view all that I can and make my best judgment. And I will continue to pray for our country and its leaders.

If there were doubts about conspiracy theory, the latest debacle in the Obama vs Clinton is evidence of its reality. Wright(perhaps wrong)is not alone in his perception of America, but he will be left alone when one realises the diabolic plan to uproot Obama's chances. I know Clinton will utter "I had nothing to do with it!" In 20 years we will know the truth. Sorry Obama, you are easily the best candidate for the job, but the Clinton's will not allow it.

"disturbing to me than the Rev. Wright's divisive comments. We argue about substance, but style and tact--or lack of it-also matter."

If the substance isn't correct, the style is irrelevant. Note that Wright's remarks are always labeled, "divisive", "inflammatory", "extreme" -- primarily by the media who have marching orders on the topic: muddy the waters and confuse people.

Divisive: Wright telling some unpleasant truths about American foreign policy to large numbers of people who wish to deny those truths. Whose fault is that? The deniers, I'd say. At least 20% of the people in this country believe what someone else tells them to believe, and they'll fight to the death to be able to be someone else's shill - not a good epitaph for the land of the free and the brave.

Hillary Clinton shows zero evidence of wishing to confront the Republican propaganda of the last 15 years, which means that she is merely a Trojan Horse dressed in Democratic garb (as so many Democrats are nowadays.) She will perpetuate the neocon/PNAC lies that we have to take over the world to defend ourselves from it. She is also a revealed liar and worse than a sore loser.

I believe there has been vote fraud done to keep Hillary's chances alive. I believe that we're watching, in part, a script designed to give people the idea of a "race", when Obama should have been sailing through (based on earlier turnarounds.)

The Fascists are running the show if:
(1) Hillary becomes the candidate instead of Obama, (2) McCain's chances are considered "fair to good", (3) Clinton or McCain win. Fascism comes faster with McCain but it comes for sure with either of those two.

But a President Obama will be no better if he DISAVOWS what Rev. Wright has said: America is in fact a Terrorist State that deserves no better from others than it gives to them. Read Ward Churchill's book "On the Justice of roosting Chickens", sections 2 and 3 listing all the military actions American has undertaken around the world since the 1700s, and the domestic and international laws that were broken in each instance. Take events that we now living might recall: Grenada, Libya, Panama, Iraq I (April Glaspie to Saddam Hussein: "we don't care if you invade Kuwait", so he does, and GHW Bush has his excuse to kick ass the first time.)
How about Yugoslavia (Serbia was in fact a victim of Western propaganda, see Michael Parenti "To Kill a Nation" and Michel Collon "Liar's Poker".) We have supported Israeli GENOCIDE against the Palestinians for FORTY YEARS.

Most of the world has very little to appreciate America for and many, many things to be angry with America about.

So, what's divisive is the jerks who insist on their version of "nyah nyah nyah" to stop people from seeing what Wright is talking about.

This is obviously not a Christian nation or it would not violate the "golden rule" as it does - without conscience and with a sense of entitlement, as in "What's our oil doing under their earth?" and "Why should we have to pay for things we want if we can just go take the stuff by force?" A little tinpot dictator here and there to look out for "OUR" interests, as if ordinary Americans are willing to make slaves of other people. Well, some of us still are, 145 years after 1865.

BushCo hates Hugo Chavez for ignoring the neocon plans for the future. He waved a Chomsky book to show the UN and millions of people went out to read it, good for Chavez. Has anyone here read that book or any of the others I've mentioned?

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Wright is thoroughly correct in what he says, and the media are making a mockery of journalism by not bothering to understand Wright's point of view. Is America an Imperial Empire? It sure is, and Wright is nowhere near original in saying so. All the lackeys and slimedogs who call Wright's comments "inflammatory" or "extreme" are tools of right-wing propaganda - and the extent to which the media follow the right wing in treating Wright's comments as other than fact-based polemics shows how far gone toward Fascism this country is. If any of the journalists who do news had read ANYTHING about what Wright discussed, we might get better news - but don't hold your breath waiting for the media to do its job. Read David Brock's "The Republican Noise Machine", John Perkins' "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man", and Ward Churchill's "On the Justice of Roosting Chickens" to see that Wright is only one of millions of Americans who know better what is really going on in this country.

You'd think they'd examine the man's beliefs before calling them anything - but no, in this country we are told to feel and react, never to think and reflect. Tell the media to SHOVE IT until they've read some history and see their sordid place in it.

To the politician Obama, I say: keep distancing yourself from Wright's TRUE STATEMENTS and you won't be worth voting for. We want a leader who will SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER - not a Quisling who runs from the truth into Corporate Arms.

Mr. Obama doesn't even speak for Mr. Obama!! His speeches are recycled/borrowed/stolen like his policies for all the issues(which, by the way,change in every state); even as the teleprompters are running Obama chooses to speak " too little and too late!!

Has anyone here read books by Rev James Cone; Rev wrights black theological mentor? Read Rev. James Cone’s books to find out what Rev. Wright believes, preaches and his church scrubbed from his web site. Obama POTUS and Rev. Wright Vice President what a horrible thought. Oh did anyone else see the Los Angeles Times article about Illinois state Senator Obama laundering money $112,000 salary Obama received from a political supporter Robert Blackwell through Obama's law firm to hide the fact it came from Robert Blackwell who received political monetary favors from Obama totaling $320,000 in Illinois State Grants. Obama committed a crime that is illegal Obama and carries a punishment of prison time. Obama supporters, the DNC and Super-delegates. Obama will eventually be indicted and charged with this crime and others. The DNC, Obama supporters and Super-delegates are giving the election to McCain if Obama is the Democratic Nominee for President. It's time for Obama to quit before he gets arrested. The people of the Democratic Party, the DNC and Super-delegates need to unite, vote and support Hillary Clinton for President. Go to Hillary Clinton’s web page read her speeches and solutions for real changes that will benefit all American's. Make donations of your time, phone calls, go door to door and give money generously to her campaign. Hillary has solutions for real substantial changes that will benefit all the people of the USA.

Congratulations. The Right Wing Noise Machine has caused Barack Obama to disavow Wright's statements as false, making him a liar for the first time I have seen. He has now paid the price to become President: kissed the ass of the National Security State and promised that war crimes have not happened (meaning will not be prosecuted) and we can look forward to an Authoritarian regime in this country within 16 years. Congratulations, right-wingers! Your program to get rid of the Constitution is going well.

I believe this is quite an orchestrated plan by Wright and Obama to publically make distance with the rev – to attract the type voters he lost in PA –
This is a way of squashing Obama’s ties to Wright – that have become a political liability- once and for all. Wright is playing along – getting louder and stating all his most controversial arguments…making him seem like a crazy radical and Obama can stand back and say, smugly…Wright is out of control.
No matter how big the ego- no way would Wright jeopardize Obama’s chances to become the leader of the free world – and have a world leader under his guidance. (Wright also gets a national/global audience out of the deal)

I believe it will work…the headlines everywhere already read “Obama puts controversial reverend behind him” …showing the world, Obama isn’t like Wright and their spin is working.

Remember how stunned we were in every community but the African American community when OJ was pronounced "not guilty" how bewildering it was that our views and beliefs were so shockingly different?

I fear, deeply, that if Obama were to win the Presidency, we would see more of this coming to the fore. Decisions and beliefs that we all assumed he would not make, or for reasons we cannot fathom, suddenly, irrevocable thrust upon us...

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