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Teamsters Prez to Obama: 'End the Mystery' on NAFTA Meeting
April 08, 2008 1:56 PM
ABC News' David Wright and Sunlen Miller Report: On an Obama campaign conference call today, the president of the powerful Teamsters union disputed Sen. Hillary Clinton's, D-N.Y., assertion that both Democratic presidential campaigns had rogue advisers on the issue of free trade but that her campaign dealt with the issue more effectively than Sen. Barack Obama's did.
Teamsters General President James Hoffa Jr., an Obama supporter, was asked to respond to Clinton's attempt today to draw a connection between her former chief strategist Mark Penn's recent meeting with Columbian diplomats where he discussed lobbying efforts to secure a free trade deal that Clinton opposes and a disputed meeting earlier this year between Obama's senior economic adviser Austan Goolsbee and Canadian diplomats over NAFTA.
In that meeting, which the Obama campaign initially denied ever took place, Goolsbee reportedly told the Canadians that Obama's tough rhetoric on NAFTA was mere political posturing. After Canadian officials leaked a key memo that called into question the Obama campaign's repeated denials, the campaign acknowledged the meeting but denied Goolsbee ever said any such thing.
"I haven't met Goolsbee, but evidently he's the top economic adviser," said Hoffa, in response to a question from ABC News. "I think he should basically come up and say what he believes and what he believes he's going to be advising Barack Obama about. And Barack Obama should do the same thing. Let's end this mystery about what happened."
Hoffa added that he doesn't think Obama is going to distance himself from Goolsbee "but he should certainly clarify whatever happened at that meeting," Hoffa said.
"We agree," wrote Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in an email. "Sen. Obama and his campaign have routinely dodged questions about the multiple stories they've told with regard to l'affaire Goolsbee. Sen. Obama should come clean about why his top economic adviser told the Canadians to dismiss his NAFTA criticism as political rhetoric before he has his campaign launch attacks."
On the Obama call, another Obama supporter Rep. Ryan Dvorak, D-Ind., quickly chimed in immediately following Hoffa, asserting the Obama campaign had no need to revisit the Goolsbee situation.
"I'm pretty sure it was clarified at the time," Dvorak said. "Goolsbee and the Canadians both, at the time, denied that the conversation took place the way it was characterized. So I'm not sure there was as much there as there is with the Mark Penn situation."
For his part, Hoffa too dismissed Clinton's suggestion that the Goolsbee and Penn matters are equivalent, noting that Penn was a paid adviser who stood to profit from his lobbying efforts on behalf of Colombia. Goolsbee, he asserted, was an unpaid adviser to the Obama campaign.
"There's no comparison," he said. "But, you know, I've asked Barack Obama about this. He says I'm committed to this issue."
Goolsbee's meeting with officials at the Canadian consulate in Chicago -- and the Obama campaign’s less than forthright handling of it in the week preceding the Texas and Ohio primaries -- may well have hurt Obama in those crucial contests. But Goolsbee, a University of Chicago economist, remains Obama's most trusted adviser on economic issues, although he has had a lower public profile in the campaign ever since the controversy.
Penn was Clinton's chief campaign strategist until he was stripped of that title this weekend. He continues to hold an advisory role in the campaign – involved in daily conference calls and polling – but other campaign staffers have now been promoted to handle strategy.
Hoffa's demand for further clarification on the Goolsbee matter was obviously not the headline the Obama campaign was hoping for from the conference call.
In a subsequent call held moments after the Hoffa call signed off, deputy Obama campaign manager Steve Hildebrand said, "I don't think that President Hoffa was aware that the campaign already clarified what occurred. He did send out a clarification a few minutes ago and if you didn't get it you can ask President Hoffa's office to give that to you."
Hildebrand went on to say: "Mark Penn was working for the Colombian government, Austen Goolsbee was not, he had one meeting. So that's been clarified now, I don't think it's an issue that is even closely aligned, Sen. Clinton's campaign can continue to push around what they want, but the facts are the facts."
UPDATE: Following the conference call, the Obama campaign distributed a statement from Hoffa.
"To clear up any misunderstanding about my statements, the Obama campaign and Austan Goolsbee have already clarified Professor Goolsbee's meeting with representatives from the Canadian government, and as confirmed by the Canadian government, Sen. Obama's position on NAFTA has not changed. As I said on a conference call with reporters earlier today, Sen. Clinton has a credibility problem with the working men and women across this country on the issue of trade. This problem is only underscored by Mark Penn's continued role in her campaign."
April 8, 2008 in Bush, George W., Kucinich, Dennis, Tancredo, Tom | Permalink | User Comments (105)
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Frankly, I find Penn's meeting w/Colombian officials less disturbing than Goolsbee's meeting w/Canadian officials. Goolsbee conversation was interpreted as meaning that Obama didn't mean what he was saying in public. Penn/B-M meeting w/Colombians was a "how's it going" touch-base w/ a client who has multiple issues in play, including lately how to counter Congressional opposition to the treaty(potentially including HRC). One was a "here's what he says, here's what he means" discussion, other was a "how can my company help you". Penn is in the wrong for having the conflict of interests, but nothing suggests HRC is saying one thing, and doing another on the issue of the treaty.
Posted by: Dennis | Apr 8, 2008 3:08:41 PM
Are we all comfortable with Mr. Obama's assertions that he "lost" all of his records from his time in the Illinois state legislature? Sheesh....I'd love for those babies to turn up. Although the Obamaites would deny that people froze to death on the streets of Chicago because of his "advocacy" to the poor. Wake up! Obama is an empty suit and a liar. Factcheck.org makes it clear that his lies are both more frequent and severe than Senator Clinton's .
Posted by: MGPGH | Apr 8, 2008 3:09:03 PM
jj - What makes you think OBAMA will not make as much money as Clintons make? Infact the last 2 years Obama made more money than what the Clintons made before comming to White house.
Posted by: GS | Apr 8, 2008 3:11:04 PM
Pennsylvania-
You have a chance to end this now!
Hillary Clinton acts like she's above the rest of us and doesn't have to be held accountable for all her poor judgements.
1. Never apologized for sending our troops into war wrecklessly. Now thousands are dead and her excuse is "if I knew then, what I know now."
2. Hillary has never accepted responsibility for all the jobs lost because of NAFTA. She lied about her support and lobbying for it and purposely blocked opposition to it!
3. And now Hillary is claiming she knew nothing about Penn and Colombia. She has a twenty year old relationship with Penn...she must have know what he was up to, and still she doesn't fire him.
4. The Clintons have made 100s of thousands of dollars from outsourcing jobs.
5. The Clintons have entered into shady dealings with middle eastern governments...why shouldn't we believe they would have one with Colombia.
PENNSYLVANIA, YOU NEED TO GET THIS RIGHT!
TO PUT HILLARY CLINTON IN THE WHITE HOUSE WOULD BE A GROSS INJUSTICE.
YOU CANNOT ALLOW THE CLINTONS TO KEEP THUMBING THEIR NOSE AT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!
Posted by: stacy | Apr 8, 2008 3:13:06 PM
It is different in many ways
1 NAFTA is all ready in effect
2 Penn wants to have C.t.d..Hill camp says she against it ..But she has known Penn for Many Years and reportedly asked him is their going to be anything that could be used against me.
3 She hired him on and gave him Advisor position
4 She really didnt out and out fire him she just had him change seats
The problem I believe lies in she was not vocal when Bill signed NAFTA.
by vocal I MEAN WENT TO THE MEDIA
Posted by: Lauren | Apr 8, 2008 3:14:54 PM
This just shows how dumb and uninformed Americans are. The news won't cover it, but the NAFTA issue has already been exposed as a saboteur in the Canadian Government trying to help the Clintons. If Hoffa and the Teamsters could read they would know this already. The issue has been beat to death and is no doubt being brought back up because staunch Hillary supporters are looking at the MARK PENN issue and saying "But, but, but,b b b b but Obama had that Canadian thing! So what about that?"
PATHETIC and SAD
Posted by: ROB | Apr 8, 2008 3:24:08 PM
ROB - Pathetic and sad? Yep, that just about sums up Obama on the NAFTA issue alright. Couldn't have said it any better myself.
Posted by: Dogsoldier | Apr 8, 2008 3:27:32 PM
TRANSPARANCY - NAFTA, Wright, Farrakhan, Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, Ayers, and Obama. Now there's change you can believe in, Wright?
Posted by: Dogsoldier | Apr 8, 2008 3:31:59 PM
.....and while we are revisiting this story about the unpaid advisor let's look again at Hillary's original stand on NAFTA. Don't you people realize that she supported it? SHE JUST KEEPS THE LIES GOING ON AND ON. It's embarrassing.
Posted by: April | Apr 8, 2008 3:40:26 PM
Both the Canadian government and Goolsbee agree that the conversation was not as depicted. The paper acknowledged that it got the tip from a Clinton insider. This was part of the ohio/texas kitchen sink strategy, that is all. The Clinton strategy is simple, if you can't be as good as your opponent, make them look as bad as possible. the truth is optional.
Posted by: Louis | Apr 8, 2008 3:42:02 PM
the president of the powerful Teamsters union disputed Sen. Hillary Clinton's, D-N.Y., assertion that both Democratic presidential campaigns had rogue advisers on the issue of free trade but that her campaign dealt with the issue more effectively than Sen. Barack Obama's did.
More effectively really he is still on the Payroll and still a family friend.
But the former president is a different type of adviser; one with even more influence than Penn, and one who cannot be pushed out of the campaign. In a hypothetical Clinton administration, his voice would likely hold large sway in policy debates. As such, it is important to note that his ties to the Colombia trade agreement have on several occasions put him at odds with his wife's stated positions.
Posted by: Lauren | Apr 8, 2008 3:43:04 PM
LOuis
What paper was that?
Posted by: Lauren | Apr 8, 2008 3:44:24 PM
April - BTW, What IS NAFTA, April? What does it do? What are its obligations? Which of the three countries is the clear winner? Or do you have any idea what you're even talking about? Well?
Posted by: Dogsoldier | Apr 8, 2008 3:46:05 PM
The real Question here should be what does the AFL_CIO think and feel about this?
Where is their response?
Posted by: Lauren | Apr 8, 2008 3:46:54 PM
Obama is a snake in the grass. Watch out or you will be bitten!
Posted by: S | Apr 8, 2008 3:51:58 PM
Obama is a liar period. He's just another politician, that claims to be the new kind of politics. He's not new nor the messiah of hope. Obama is playing the same old dirty tricks to deceive the voters, just like everyone else. Hillary lies but so does Obama, which bothers me more that he comes preaching all the crap about a clean platform and change, but the truth of the matter is that he's far from it.
Posted by: Persio | Apr 8, 2008 3:56:46 PM
Every day I read what others have to say, and I am always amazed by the hate and the insults that come from people that do not personally know the people they speak of. In regards to Hillary, why must people punish her for not opposong the war? It's like being in a marriage and your husband says that you two should do something, and it ends up being a wrong decision, is she not human? Was she wrong for supporting our so called president? Why must people punish her for others mistakes including her husbands, had she not stood by him, every one would still have some thing to say. Why attack her daughter, she was their to answer questions about her mother, maybe she could have responded different, but the fact still remains that it was her family crisis, not ours. Sure he was the president and some say it was our business, but why not stop putting these politicians on a pedestal and realize that they are human and no better or worse than you and I. I support Hillary for many reasons, just wish that we could stop all the judging and realize it is not racism just with blacks like Obama says, racism is every where towards Latino's, blacks, women,etc. Change comes within, not from someone that says or thinks he can change it. I am latina and face many challenges in my life, and it makes me sad that people do not realize what is really wrong here. Hope every one puts personal feelings to the side, and realize that our world is in trouble, and it is us the real world people that knows this better than any one.
Posted by: Diana Salazar | Apr 8, 2008 4:00:44 PM
I'm thinking that Teamster members would rather hear DIRECTLY from Mr. Hoffa that he's satisfied that this issue has been addressed to the TEAMSTERS satisfaction.
We already know that TEAMOBAMA is satisfied with their existing response - they just want the issue to go away.
Teamster members may not be satisfied though with a campaign issued statement. They'd probably like to hear directly from Mr. Hoffa.
Posted by: s. valenti | Apr 8, 2008 4:01:13 PM
I'm thinking that Teamster members would rather hear DIRECTLY from Mr. Hoffa that he's satisfied that this issue has been addressed to the TEAMSTERS satisfaction.
We already know that TEAMOBAMA is satisfied with their existing response - they just want the issue to go away.
Teamster members may not be satisfied though with a campaign issued statement. They'd probably like to hear directly from Mr. Hoffa.
Posted by: s. valenti | Apr 8, 2008 4:01:23 PM
Change we can believe in.
Housing crisis because of preditory loans we need to change them?Maggie Williams
Posted by: Lauren | Apr 8, 2008 4:01:34 PM
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