Remember how Chris Cilizza, William Bennett and others were pumping Obama up on CNN and MSNBC? Well, they're doing it for Bush now. Except they refer to Bush as "The President". Told you people; They wanted Obama for Bush. Luckily, Hillary is up 40+ in Kentucky and up in double digets for Puerto Rico. Hillary isn't that far behind in Oregon it's like 10 pts.

Unless MI and FL votes are considered, there's always going to be an asterisk next to presumptive nominee Obama's name.

Context defines rules ... when the context changes, the rules should too. DNC felt they'd scheduled in such a way that a nominee would be clear early on. That didn't happen. To refuse to seat delegates in the closest race in American politics is ridiculous.

Sara, love your "context defines rules"!

With Obama in the White House God Bless America will not be a phrase, but will become a prayer.

Posted by: informed democrat

Wow, for someone considering themselves a informed democrat, that has to be single handedly the most biased, moronic posting this week. Tell the truth, you're just a republican troll worried about Hillary losing, because Obama going to empty a lot of republican seats if he wins.

There's lot that Sen. Barack Obama has in common with George W. Bush. Bill Clinton is abslouetly right to point out that it was always the Republicans who get blamed for this sort of thing, for placing more and more barriers on people's right to vote in a democracy such as ours. Sen. Barack Obama not only manupulated causues with a help of small groups of zealots, but also effectively blocked the re-vote of Florida and Michigan. And when it comes to disenfranchising American voters─ no other person knows more about this subject than our former Vice-President Al Gore. It is ironic we just witnessed the same thing happen to Hillary Clinton, that happened to Al Gore in November 2000. I amazed that the preventing Michigan and Florida vote thus disfranchising millions of Democratic voters reminds me of the Supreme Court Handing over Florida vote to George Bush. In this new era of new politics that's promised by Sen. Obama, can this really happen, or is this politics as usual-- circa Florida 2000? And as usual the whole Washington media establishment was silent, more or less abandoning their responsibility of safeguarding the rights of the people to vote in a democracy such as ours; neglecting their role to say the obvious. The fact that Sen. Obama’s lawyers had successfully block the re-voting of Michigan and Florida. Mr. David Brooks points out in his (3-25-08) column in The New York Times “Obama lawyers successfully prevented re-votes in Florida and Michigan.” This important statement was buried in otherwise as usual pro Obama piece that sees things for Sen. Obama’s favor in an obviously stalemated Democratic primary contest. But what disturbed me was the fact that David Brooks and other political writes in the media establishment seemed to have little regard for democratic process? The more Sen. Obama strains to speak of his new era of politics in America, less and less of it seemed real. Sen. Obama should practice what he preaches so blatantly and the presidential primary campaign is a good place to start…I think Al Gore should endorse Hilly Clinton.

Come on Hillary leave the dirty Democrats in the dust, run Independent. They did nothing for me after a lifetime of being one of them. You don't owe them a thing. Hillary or McCain

UNBELIEVABLE! Hillary agreed to the sanctions when the determination was made by the DNC and now she wants to change the game?!! I too am upset by the delegate loss from MI and FL, but the onus is upon the state party machines for ignoring the warnings from Dean and company if they chose to move their primaries ahead! Let's place the responsibility for this fiasco where it belongs... Any attempt to fairly distribute these delegates now can only damage this party further.

Remember when Bill was complaining in NH about Obama not getting vetted by the media. He is right afterall...If only these Rev. Wright, Ayers, Rezko issues were brought up before Iowa, Hillary should have been the nominee by this time.

Remember when Bill was complaining in NH about Obama not getting vetted by the media. He is right afterall...If only these Rev. Wright, Ayers, Rezko issues were brought up before Iowa, Hillary should have been the nominee by this time.

The party leadership of Michigan & Florida knew the party rules when they advanced the dates of their primaries. Obama, rightly following the rules didn't even appear on the Michigan ballot. The Democrats, ever spineless, are for some reason terrified of a convention where something is actually decided. Conventions have decided candidates for many years now. They have become so boring of late that they are not worth watching, except perhaps for a few key speeches. Let the process work. Let the primaries be run. Let the Credentials Committee decide if the Democratic Party will follow its own rules. Let the delegates vote. The proceedure has been in place for years now. I'm no Hillary fan but at least she has backbone.

IF THEY VOTED IT SHOULD BE COUNTED! TO ALL THE OBAMA FANS SHUT THE HELL UP! IF IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND HILL SUPPORTERS WOULD HAVE TO GET OVER IT! REGARDLESS IF HILL LOSES OR WINS THESE PEOPLE GOT OUT AND VOTED AND BET YOUR BUTT IF YOU DON'T COUNT THEM OBAMA OR HILARY WILL LOSE TO MCCAIN PERIOD! GROW UP DEMOCRATS! THIS IS ABOUT ELECTING A DEMOCRAT NOT A REPUBLICAN AND IT WAS A REPUBLICAN THAT MADE THOSE RULES AND ALSO IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE AND OTHERS MOVED THERE DATES UP WHY DON'T WE TAKE AWAY THEIR VOTES!

Barack Obama himself, but now playing the role of George Bush in the sly with such skill! Sen. Barack Obama obviously has so much more in common with George Bush than meets the eye; it is said they are even very distant relatives; well, I'm not surprised! And as usual the whole Washington media establishment was silent, more or less abandoning their responsibility of safeguarding the rights of the people to vote in a democracy such as ours; ditching their role─ to say the obvious. Sen. Obama’s lawyers had successfully blocked the re-voting of Michigan and Florida. I amazed that the preventing Michigan and Florida vote didn't seem to bother anyone in the whole Washington media establishment one bit; not even that MSNBC motor- mouth Keith Dobermann. In this new era of new politics that's promised by Sen. Obama, can this really happen, or is this politics as usual-- circa Florida 2000? The more Sen. Obama strains to speak of his new era of politics in America, less and less of it seemed real. Sen. Obama should practice what he preaches so blatantly and the presidential primary campaign is a good place to start…I think, it’s only just that Al Gore should endorse Sen. Hillary Clinton.

While I have sympathy for the voters in Michigan and Florida, I feel their just anger is headed in the wrong direction.

Citizens in both states should not be angry at the DNC. The DNC created primary guidelines that everyone agreed to abide by, including the Democrat leaders in MI and FL. If the voters in these states lose their primary votes, its not the fault of the DNC, but instead the fault of the individual Democrat leaders in those two states who decided they could 'break the rules.' If I were a resident of either state, I would vote out any and all Democrat leaders who voted to move the primaries before February 5th.

Bill Clinton is trying to play this off as a fault of the entire democrat leadership, when quite actually, the leadership of these two states is solely to blame.

The Clintons are now a danger to the Democratic party and are trying to place a wedge in it. Funny since Hillary also voted for the February primaries.

They broke the rules. They pay the price. Nobody can take away their votes in November, and that is the utmost importance.

Will someboby please explain to me why a Loser like Howard Dean became the head of DNC...YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Ok, do not count the vote and I will be the first person to cross over to McCain and vote for him in November.

So will millions of angry disenchanged people in FL and MI.

Welcome McCain!

Count the votes and convince the superdelegates to vote for Clinton. It's the only change Democrats have to win in November and save the Supreme Court. Obama is a fraud.

Something else I just discovered today...the latest mathmatics:
http://12counts.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/why-obama-wont-count-the-votes-hillarys-winning/
Obama, you and your campaigners are cheating!

FAT ASS BILL IS AT IT AGAIN. SPREADING LIES, SAYING ANYTHING HE HAS TO TO GET HILARY ELECTED SUCH AS HIS POSITION ON FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN. HE CONVIENTLY FORGETS THAT HILARY VOTED IN FAVOR OF NOT SEATING THE MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELAGATES (WHEN SHE WAS AHEAD IN THE RACE) BECAUSE THESE TWO STATES CHOSE TO HOLD THEIR PRIMARIES EARLY.

ALSO, LETS NOT FORGET THAT ON 10/10/07 HILARY STATED, (REGARDING THE MICHIGAN PRIMARY) "IT'S CLEAR, THIS ELECTION THEY'RE HAVING IS NOT GOING TO COUNT FOR ANYTHING."

YOU CLINTONS, ALL THREE OF YOU, DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT PEOPLES VOTING RIGHTS. ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS WINNING THE WHITE HOUSE ANYWAY YOU CAN.

WELL, ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. HILARY WILL BE LUCKY IF SHE GETS ELECTED DOGCATCHER. HER POLITICAL CAREER IS OVER, BILLS LEGACY IS IN RUINS AND POOR CHELSE HAS TO LIVE WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT HER PARENTS ARE SLIME.

REGARDING THE FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN VOTERS WHO ARE NOW COMPLAING...THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS MADE A DECISION, RIGHT OR WRONG AND THEY MUST NOW LIVE WITH IT. THE HELL WITH THEM.

SEAT FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN OR LOSE IN THE GENERAL TO MCCAIN!

The Clintons are silly. Can you imagine after a ball game is lost you argue that you got more cheers and the rules are not fair and that you should be declared winner despite loosing it on the scores? Just plain silly. What they are doing is a national embarrassment and disgrace.