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Celebrities Turn a Critic’s Eye to Selecting New Obama Ad
May 12, 2008 7:36 AM
ABC News' Lindsey Ellerson Reports: Ben Affleck, Oliver Stone, Matt Damon, Naomi Wolf, Julia Stiles and other eye-grabbing celebrities joined together with the progressive group MoveOn.org to select the newest entry into Barack Obama’s ad campaign.
Judged as most compelling and representative of Senator Barack Obama’s message, just one day before the West Virginia Democratic primary, MoveOn.org is announcing the winner of a pro-Barack Obama ad contest created for the general public to try its hand in presidential politics.
The winning ad: “Obamacan,” illustrates a message Obama has continuously endeavored to clarify through this election season, that he has the ability to unite the country more effectively than his Democratic rival Senator Hillary Clinton. Illustrating his ability to unite historically disparate parties, the ad tells the story of a Republican veteran under former President Ronald Reagan and the first President George Bush and steadfast believer in national security turned Barack believer. The closing words of the television spot: “I’m a life-long Republican and I’m voting for Barack Obama.”
Watch the winning ad HERE.
“Obama’s candidacy is rallying people from across the political spectrum to end this war and take on our challenges at home--fixing our economy, getting all Americans healthcare, and powering our nation with clean and affordable energy,” says MoveOn’s Executive Director Eli Pariser.
MoveOn.org, which endorsed Obama in February – the first time the organization has endorsed a candidate in the Democratic primary – orchestrated this contest to shed a creative light on the Senator’s candidacy.
Click HERE to watch all 15 finalists.
This contest seems to cater particularly to a large demographic of Obama supporters: young, energized and web-savvy voters who have been responsive to web-generated election content. While MoveOn.org’s contest may not have generated as much internet attention as Obama Girl – click HERE to watch the latest Obama Girl video – and Black Eyed Peas star Will-i-am’s "Yes We Can” music video since the inception of the contest in late March, the progressive organization has received more than 1,100 entries and 5.5 million people nationwide cast their vote to help select the 15 finalists.
The ads were judged by MoveOn members, as well as the celebrity judge panel based on three criteria: overall impact, originality and positive message. The entries were then posted to the internet and the general public was given the opportunity to rate the entries. Of the 15 finalists, ten were selected by the MoveOn members and the other five were picked because of the amount of clicks they received on the site.
While the contest guidelines were minimal, allowing the producer creative liberties, the instructions clearly indicated the fundamental objective of the entry should be to promote the Senator and under no circumstances, criticize Democratic rival Sen. Clinton.
“Ads should not talk about Hillary Clinton or reference her,” MoveOn’s website specified. “If you mention John McCain, George W. Bush, or the Bush administration, you should only do so in the context of contrasting them with Barack Obama.”
MoveOn.org will spend $200,000 to televise “Obamacan” on the cable channels as well as network TV in the battle ground states, such as Ohio, Colorado and Wisconsin. The producers of the ad, David Gaw and Lance Mungia, both of Monrovia, California, will receive as a reward, a $20,000 gift certificate for video and production equipment.
The organization also awarded prizes to other select ad entries including “They Said He Was Unprepared”, which points out the parallels between Obama and former President Lincoln, as has been noted repeatedly by pundits throughout the campaign. The script reads: “His opponents ridiculed him as inexperienced and woefully unprepared. His only government experience had been serving the Illinois state legislature…He never held an executive or management position of any kind. Yet, this man was elected president, twice. And they said he was unprepared.”
Click HERE to watch it.
“Join Me,” which attempts to appeal to working-class voters with its “small-town USA” feel, showcases an All-American male discussing the importance of “family dinners” and “church on Sunday,” from the bed of his pickup truck. The piece reiterates the ubiquitous theme of change explored in the winning ad, “Obamacan”: the voter has been a life-long Republican but is now crossing party lines to vote for the Illinois Senator. “I’m going to be faithful to my values. Join me. Let’s bring our troops and our tax dollars back home where they’re needed.”
Watch the ad HERE.
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The "game" is not in the number of traditional party loyalists crossing party lines. It is a small number in either direction. The game-winner is the group of people, sometimes called Reagan democrats, sometime so-called swing voters, or sometime being labeled as poor, less-educated, bitter voters.
Who has the most likely chance gainning their trust will in in November. Simple enough and seemingly obvious enough.
Posted by: tufa | May 12, 2008 7:52:48 AM
Only new and/or young voters will fall for a Hollywood driven promotional piece. Those of us who have been around awhile know empty hype when we see it. It's a shame the DNC insiders don't seem to realize that the majority of voters are not impressed by Hollywood's support of a candidate. How many MoveOn supported presidential candidates have actually won a general election?
Posted by: mhhunt | May 12, 2008 8:04:48 AM
The game is over by Obama rules...he does not need to get the needed amount of delegates, so why have a number that the candidate must reach? He does not need the people of West Virginia, Kentucky, and the remaining primaries---he has declared himself the winner. He does not need the voters of Pennsylvania, New York, California, Texas, Floria, Ohio, the top states. Well guess what he does not need my vote either. We sell "fairness" in American, "freedom of choice" which Obama land has done away with.......
Posted by: Anne | May 12, 2008 8:08:37 AM
I saw all the adds, and I must say, right now i am at a lost for words. I believe, I dont't want to be part of a blue state or a red state, I to be part of the United States. Join me will you, please. I am not the type of person to beg, and i yes, I am an Obama supporter, and yes, I am upset about the things that have been said. But today I just want to say, Please, join me, and be part of the United States. Please!!
Posted by: Sharon | May 12, 2008 8:18:03 AM
Hello, i just wanted to say that here in Europe and in the rest of the world we are just very excited, exilarated i d say that a person of the integrity of barack obama is going to be the next US president. After G.W.B we were not sure how worse it could get!! So perhaps you should give it a second thought all those people who disagree and ponder for a moment that the rest of the world will once again respect and not fear the U.S
Posted by: Tony Lemonde | May 12, 2008 8:46:06 AM
Yes this race is over unless Hillary can dig up more dirt to slow things down again. Being the woman that she is she's looking for something as hard as she can. Who in the world would want an underhanded lying woman like this to be president?
Posted by: Barbara | May 12, 2008 8:58:21 AM
Giving free advertising to Obama in the false premise it is a news story.
Al Gore thought he did not need West Virginia either.
Posted by: geevill | May 12, 2008 9:01:50 AM
Barbara
What's wrong with wanting to win? Doesn't Obama want to win also?
Obama's campaign has tried to dig up dirt too. Obama stays above it all while his surrogates sling mud with the best of them.
So, what's really the difference in the way each Candide acts?
Posted by: T | May 12, 2008 9:04:17 AM
What do I have in common with Hollywood elite? Nothing. Do they influence my vote? No. Will I remember and boycot them? Yes.
Posted by: justme2see | May 12, 2008 9:13:57 AM
Never ever never will I or my family vote for Obama.. Never EVER!
We have all drop the DNC and the Dem party is our history.
Will write Hillary in on the Nov ballot and vote for not ONE other....
Posted by: HP Boston | May 12, 2008 9:17:26 AM
Anne...you have the choice to vote for whomever you please. Just remember you will have a tought time sleping ig McCain gets in...4000 or more young men and woemn dead.BTW..Obama has NOT declared himself a winner, He simply feels it is better to attack McCain instead of Hillary. He has given her credit, and respect on every show I have watched. This more than she has given him.
Posted by: tellthetruth | May 12, 2008 9:46:50 AM
I thought how proud I am to be standing up beside my dad. Never did it occur to me that he would become the gist for cartoonists." (sic). "If you're sick and tired of the politics of cynicism and polls and principles, come and join this campaign." — Hilton Head, S.C., Feb. 16, 2000 George Bush
Posted by: justme2see | May 12, 2008 9:48:56 AM
"I have a different vision of leadership. A leadership is someone who brings people together." — Bartlett, Tenn., Aug. 18, 2000 (Thanks to Tarja Black.) George W. Bush
Posted by: justme2see | May 12, 2008 9:51:27 AM
"The fundamental question is, 'Will I be a successful president when it comes to foreign policy?' I will be, but until I'm the president, it's going to be hard for me to verify that I think I'll be more effective." — In Wayne, Mich., as quoted by Katharine Q. Seelye in the New York Times, June 28, 2000 George W. Bush
Posted by: justme2see | May 12, 2008 9:52:32 AM
I am glad he only needs the mens vote because he won't get many of the women voters who are supporting Hillary IMO
Posted by: Bishop | May 12, 2008 9:55:17 AM
Obama is running on the same type promises Bushie made. Be careful what you believe.
Posted by: justme2see | May 12, 2008 10:02:41 AM
BUSH: That's totally false for him to stand up here and say that. Let me make sure the seniors hear me loud and clear. They have had their chance to get something done. I'm going to work with Democrats and Republicans to reform the system. All seniors will be covered, all seniors will have their prescription drugs paid for, and in the meantime, we'll have a plan to help poor seniors and in the meantime it could be one year or two years.
Posted by: justme2see | May 12, 2008 10:07:14 AM
It's fine if she keeps running to the end, but then they will
move the goal post again to stay in until the convention...
We know the tricks by now...
Posted by: Lawrence | May 12, 2008 10:08:41 AM
Stella: Apparently you don't know the rules on these blogs. Rule One: You can trash Hillary Clinton as much as you want, in the most vile manner. Rule Two: If you wish to make points which are critical of Obama, you must tread lightly.
Posted by: Truth | May 12, 2008 10:11:04 AM
Do the HILLARY supporters actually think - threatening to vote for McCain when Obama wins the nomination actually scares anyone..who cares..for everyone lost, 10 gained..
Posted by: Lawrence | May 12, 2008 10:20:56 AM
Power to the women go Hillary
Posted by: Bishop | May 12, 2008 10:22:40 AM
I think that this is great and exciting that these two candidates, the first female and first African American/Bi-racial man to get this close in becoming the President of the United States. Though I'm very mindful of what these two have accomplished, it is more resounding to know that this candidacy has brought out so many young voters and just voters in general. This is a year that will go down in history. I think the Obama affect has taken everyone by storm moreso, not just because he is African American/Biracial, but the fact that he has the "it" factor that is needed today. He represents not only his black heritage but his white heritage as well. His stance on the issues are similiar to those of Hillary Clinton, but a more resound effect aludes him. He's fresh and his ideas relate across the board to so many. I believe that he can do so much in Washington and I hope that his change can bring us all together instead of it being a divide in this United States. A lot of people don't realize that to divide is to conquer and Washington in it's antics wants this nation to be divided so that it can continue on with it's greed and underhanded ways. Unfortunately, many Americans don't see that we are divided by so many things outside of just race...but we need to strive for a better America and I hope and pray that Barack can justify this.
Posted by: Troy | May 12, 2008 10:23:31 AM
Obama is not my hope my children are.
Power to the Women go Hillary
Posted by: Bishop | May 12, 2008 10:25:56 AM
Lawrence said: Do the HILLARY supporters actually think - threatening to vote for McCain when Obama wins the nomination actually scares anyone..who cares..for everyone lost, 10 gained..
NO LAWRENCE. No one is trying to scare the Obama cultists. Those Democrats who will not vote for Obama will not do so because he is an inexperienced, deceptive, ruthless, divisive, race card playing and racist candidate. We love our families and love our country, more than we love the Democratic Party. It is a matter of principal. If it results in the defeat of Obama in November, should he be the nominee, then all the better.
Posted by: Trudy | May 12, 2008 10:31:18 AM
Just reading the various blogs on the Internet proves Obama could never unite this nation. Hillary supporters shun Obama, and McCain supporters never embraced him.
Posted by: No Can Do | May 12, 2008 10:35:22 AM
Do some of you non-college educated people that support Hillary realize that Barack has won the popular vote? A few of the comments seem to indicate that you do not get this. When someone wins the popular vote it means that more people voted for them than the other candidate. Just so that's clear.
I watched Amy Poehler as Hilary on SNL this Saturday and she was so spot on. I wanted to believe Hilary had ethics, which I did before the election started but it's clear she has very little to none and she's picked up the type of supporters that agree with that sort of stuff. Do we really need that sort of thing in the white house again? Our reputation is so damaged abroad that only someone like Barack has any hope of repairing it in a short enough period of time. You guys don't seem to realize that America is losing it's Superpower status and you're fools if you think other countries don't realize this and are going to try and take advantage.
Posted by: Chris | May 12, 2008 10:38:11 AM
As a Reagan Democrat I will say this, I am disgusted by the way Hillary was treated from day one. Obama better have more substance than his speeched or im over to McCain! An Im no blue collar worker, but a white collar hispanic democrat from NY. Hope Obama's analysit work overtime because if he loses New York to McCain, forget it. The race is over.
Posted by: NYCStylez | May 12, 2008 10:44:37 AM
That's the winning ad?? Geez, it's about as substantive as the rest of Obama's campaign. Matt, Ben and Oliver must have pulled a string of all-nighters to come up with that!
Posted by: WV-DC | May 12, 2008 10:45:38 AM
Boo-Hoo you have to have elected delagates the supers are not really pledged until Aug. And guess what old Barry won't have enough at the end of the next six primary's
Posted by: Bishop | May 12, 2008 10:48:09 AM
Hillary tried. Good bye Hillary. Not much difference between Hillary and McCain. America can put Obama to work. Time for a change.
Posted by: DenisR | May 12, 2008 10:52:11 AM
How can anybody who supports a candidate based on hope rather than details possibly criticize opponents as being uneducated?
Posted by: T | May 12, 2008 10:53:22 AM
This is a perfect example of why I no longer consider myself a democrat. Like Obama, and now these celebrity Move On far liberal supportres, what exactly do I have in common with them? Nothing. How can they relate to my life, my small town community, to my values - THEY CAN'T!! I am so sickened by this campaign. Let's just get to November so myself and thousands of ex-dems can hold our noses and vote for McCain. Sadly, he is more central and seems to represent my family more so than Obama and the Hollywood crowd does.
Posted by: Capu | May 12, 2008 10:53:43 AM
Reading these posts reinforces just how very divisive and noxious Hillary Clinton's campaign has been. Hillary supporters are the nastiest on the internet, they criticize Obama's record and policies without ever having actually listened to or read them, yet blindly support Hillary's every dumb manoever, like summer gas cuts and voting for invading Iraq, while Obama refuses to dupe the American public and spoke out against both. They forgive Hillary for endless lies, even when, asa in Bosnia sniper fire, she even lied about the lie...
They are blind in their support of Hillary, yet rude enough to disparagingly call Obama supporters "cultists"! What a joke. I blame Hillary for creating such a polarized following and brainwashing them to hate Obama.
Hillary supporters should read the overseas posting above..."Hello, i just wanted to say that here in Europe and in the rest of the world we are just very excited, exilarated i'd say that a person of the integrity of barack obama is going to be the next US president."
BTW - proof Hillary supporters don't read, just spew negativity and hate as a reflex...the ad was neither created by Hollywood, nor the Obama campaign. It was a consumer contest run by moveon.org and these were the winners.
Posted by: Truthfairy | May 12, 2008 11:14:53 AM
Capu: I agree with you. It turns my stomach to see Obama struting around Washihngton, hob knobbing with the big [politicians looking like an arrogant Peacock!
I too will be voting more McCain in the fall. He is the only one that I believe will be bi-partisian. He is looking better and better to me each day.
He is more of a Moderate than Obama and Hillary.
Posted by: stella | May 12, 2008 11:15:29 AM
WHO IS THE BETTER DEMOCRAT?
McCain or Obama?
Posted by: T | May 12, 2008 11:17:42 AM
McCain is the better democrate. At least you know what your getting.
Obama is a fake and mold of the extreme leftist in this country.
Posted by: stella | May 12, 2008 11:22:19 AM
T - the answer to your question who is the better democrat; McCain or Obama, the answer is neither. But at least with McCain we know he loves his country and is proud of it. I'll crossover for him.
Posted by: Smith | May 12, 2008 11:23:50 AM
Hillary is not electable. She is too divisive, and frankly, very phony.
All her years of experience is limited to being wife of a governor or a president. In that sense Barbara Bush is far more qualified. Give me a break.
Stop the lies and falsification acts.
Game is over.
Posted by: fooled_once | May 12, 2008 11:25:53 AM
stella
Thanks! Everyone should take a second look at this miserable person.
Posted by: T | May 12, 2008 11:33:01 AM
Should Obama become the Democratic nominee, Democrats have a unique responsibility this November. It will be up to Democrats and Independents to shield and protect this country from the most cynical and ruthless politician in modern history. Start now, and tell all your friends and relatives that for the sake of our children and our country, we must stop this inexperienced, deceptive, ruthless, divisive and racist man from taking control of the most powerful country in the world. Band together on the positive mission to stop Obama, NOW. Thank you.
Hillary; first choice
McCain; second choice
Racist and deceptive Obama -- NEVER
Posted by: Emily | May 12, 2008 11:58:12 AM
It's HILLARY, all the way to the
WHITE HOUSE!!!
Posted by: Di | May 12, 2008 12:05:46 PM
Lake Hart: Give it up. You Obama supporters cannot insult and abuse everyone who disagrees with you for months on end, and then turn around and ask for unity. It's too late for that. We have seen you for what you are, and we see your messiah for what he is, and it is not pretty.
Hillary; first choice
McCain; second choice
Racist and deceptive Obama -- NEVER
Posted by: Sally | May 12, 2008 12:13:49 PM
"Give it up. You Obama supporters cannot insult and abuse everyone who disagrees with you for months on end, and then turn around and ask for unity."
Can you give an example of what you're talking about, Sally?
Posted by: T-Bone | May 12, 2008 12:19:42 PM
The media, the DNC and the Democratic Party elite has tried to shove Obama down our throats for many months now. In spite of this, Hillary is still fighting hard to protect this country against the most deceptive and divisive candidate in modern history. Dean, Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry and the rest of the party establishment are going to get a big surprise in November, should Obama be the Democratic nominee, when he is soundly defeated by voters crossing over to McCain from their own party. We Democrats who will not sit idly by and let this dangerous wing of the party seize control will fight on, because we love our families and our country more than the Democratic Party, which is now only a shadow of the party of hope and promise it purports to represent.
Posted by: Susan | May 12, 2008 12:26:42 PM
So it's about the supporters, not the candidates?
Posted by: T-Bone | May 12, 2008 12:33:45 PM
Emily: Great post. I agree completely with you and others who have expressed the same sentiment. We definitely have to protect our country from Obama and his puppet masters. This includes protecting Obama's supporters from him as well since many have been deceived or are in a state of denial.
Hillary first
McCain second
Anyone but Obama third
Obama NEVER
Posted by: CollegeEducatedLatteDrinker | May 12, 2008 12:37:10 PM
Well, its pretty well known that the current Hollywood "celebs" are not very educated. What do you expect from these people who would rather get naked in front of a movie camera for the publicity? Who cares?
Posted by: Lou | May 12, 2008 12:50:35 PM
Speaking of issues, can someone explain why Hillary still pushes for a gas tax holiday despite virtually every economist saying it's a bad idea? It's very clear pandering. It's refusal to
She panders to her uneducated base that the experts who spend entire careers studying the subject offer nothing more that "elite opinion". "Elite" mean best, most intelligent, etc. And so we are supposed to reject the thoughts and ideas of our best and brightest? So let's not send our elite athletes to the Olympics. Let's reject economists. Let's reject scientists. Clinton thinks she knows better.
Posted by: T-Bone | May 12, 2008 1:09:04 PM
I'm not for Obama, Clinton or McCain. I'm just making an observation.
Posted by: Jon | May 12, 2008 1:18:24 PM
This is America not Europe.
Ask the Europeans if they think we were the heroes in WWI and WWII that we portray ourselves to be. Ask the Europeans if they still think Americans are rude, loud, obnoxious, and uncultured. Ask the Europeans when the last time they had respect for this country was. Ask the Europeans who the last US President they would have been willing to vote for was.
Who cares what the rest of the world thinks about us? Who cares if we are a superpower or not? So long as Americans are taken care of that's all that matters. Let American hegemony die--the world will be a better place--and we can all get on with our lives.
Posted by: jlynne | May 12, 2008 1:39:12 PM
Think about this people, if Obama is so much for changing Washington politics than why are so many Democratic politicians supporting him. "Yeah, Obama is gonna change things around here! Maybe he will cause me to get ousted from office." The clintons have always been willing to look at how things are done in Washington differently, like having a budget surplus instead of a deficit. That is why Hillary receives so little support from her so called Party. Obama= politics as usual and false promisses.
Posted by: Tom NYC | May 12, 2008 1:44:54 PM
David from Texas..........Well said my man! I'm an African-American supporting Hillary Clinton and I've been sick of the media hype around Obama. He's treated as if he's American Royalty. If you call him out on his platform then you are considered racist. Obama's campaign has used the race card to their advantage numerous times throughout this election.
Posted by: Jason | May 12, 2008 1:54:03 PM
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Posted by: T | May 12, 2008 1:56:07 PM
Barack Obama ...
... full of sound and fury
... signifying nothng!
Posted by: T | May 12, 2008 2:08:20 PM
This would be my First Time I'm Voting Republican if Obama wins the nomination!
Posted by: Truth Squad | May 12, 2008 2:10:07 PM
Truth Squad said: This would be my First Time I'm Voting Republican if Obuma wins the nomination!
I'M WITH YOU. I think there are millions of Democrats who will cross party lines in order to protect this country from perhaps the most ruthless, deceptive and divisive candidate in modern history.
Posted by: George | May 12, 2008 2:13:56 PM
why does anyone have to vote Republican or Democrat ?
Posted by: Big1 | May 12, 2008 2:13:56 PM
I really don't understand why Hillary supporters continue to rant on and on. It isn't Obama who is trying to get Hillary out, it is the news media, because they know the race is over and Hillary is just a distraction. The math is what it is. Even if Hillary wins every delgate in WV and KY, and the DNC seats the FL and MI delegates, Obama will still win the nomination as he will still be ahead in popular vote and pledged delgates. As can be seen by what has happened in the last week, super-delgates are not going to overturn the will of the voters.
Posted by: Dennis | May 12, 2008 2:14:19 PM
Part of the Republican strategy will be to point out that Democrats have held the Congress for two years and have yet to propose an energy policy. They have had multiple opportunities to end the war in Iraq by refusing to fund it but have failed to do so. Both Obama and Hillary were part of that Congress. Hillary has a better chance of surviving the attack because she was working on legislation. Obama has spent most of his time in the Senate running for President. Talk about raw ambition. That fact alone makes McCain a lot easier to swallow.
Posted by: jlynne | May 12, 2008 2:16:10 PM
As a 55 year old white woman, I'm really disappointed in the women who are voting for Hillary solely because she's a woman. Come on people. Obama is obviously the better choice. Although I like Hillary (although she's disappointed me with her tactics lately) this country needs Obama more than it needs Hillary. The day he's elected president, the U.S. will instantly gain back its credibility. Hillary is doing a great job in the Senate and should continue her good work.
Posted by: Julie Bailey | May 12, 2008 2:19:29 PM
I am not so much for Obama, as I am Anti-Hillary.
Posted by: Big1 | May 12, 2008 2:22:29 PM
If it comes down to issues, Hillary isn't doing a good job as a senator either. Why did she have to move to NY and become senator there? The people in her home state wouldn't vote for her.
Posted by: Big1 | May 12, 2008 2:30:28 PM
Hillary Clinton won Arkansas 70% to Obama's 26%.
Posted by: Tom NYC | May 12, 2008 2:34:44 PM
But why did she move to NY to become senator ?
Posted by: Big1 | May 12, 2008 2:36:08 PM
I think what a good portion of the democratic party is trying to say to the other portion of the democratic party is that we don't trust Obama with our country. We are asking to not be called uneducated bigots because we don't feel a sense of inspiration or hope when we listen to Obama. If we could bring outselves to vote for him, we would have ended this election a long time ago but our conscience won't let us. We are all but begging to have a voice in this election but we are hitting a brick wall every time we try to voice our opinions. We can post fact, we can post well-reasoned arguments, we can try our best to convey to Obama supporters that we are sincere--yet we are attacked over and over again. Please understand the division is real--if there is no place for us in the Democratic Party (and that is what we have been told over and over by Obama supporters) then we have no choice but to join the Republicans or write in a candidate.
Posted by: jlynne | May 12, 2008 2:38:46 PM
Come to think of it, Why did I move to New York? Oh Yeah, I love it here..
Posted by: Tom NYC | May 12, 2008 2:40:58 PM
Clinton is very shady and decetful. Both Clintons are and always were. Like I said, I'm more anti-Hillary than Pro-Obama.
Posted by: Big1 | May 12, 2008 2:41:27 PM
jlynne: Good comment. The media, the DNC and the Democratic Party elite has tried to shove Obama down our throats for many months now. In spite of this, Hillary is still fighting hard to protect this country against the most deceptive and divisive candidate in modern history. Dean, Pelosi, Kennedy, Kerry and the rest of the party establishment are going to get a big surprise in November, should Obama be the Democratic nominee, when he is soundly defeated by voters crossing over to McCain from their own party. We Democrats who will not sit idly by and let this dangerous wing of the party seize control will fight on, because we love our families and our country more than the Democratic Party, which is now only a shadow of the party of hope and promise it purports to represent.
Posted by: Emily | May 12, 2008 2:42:40 PM
Maybe you love it there, but that's not why she moved there. It was well known she bought a house there to run for senator.
Posted by: Big1 | May 12, 2008 2:43:52 PM
"That's a pretty flimsy opinion your throwing around. Is that the basis of your choice? Ever heard of issues?"
Oh, issues? Is that what the Hillary supporters are filling this comment section with? The issues... that's laughable. Take off those goggles.
Posted by: T-Bone | May 12, 2008 2:45:31 PM
Big1: Well, then I guess Obama should have run from Hawaii?
Posted by: Truth | May 12, 2008 2:46:02 PM
I just think she likes to manipulate people and the system for her own personal gain.
Posted by: Big1 | May 12, 2008 2:47:56 PM
Since her husband was governor of Arkansas, why wouldn't she just run there ?
Posted by: Big1 | May 12, 2008 2:51:07 PM
Maybe Obama should have started his political career from Hawaii. Maybe he would have done better by them then he has done by the people in south Chicago. The Clintons have done more for Harlem alone then Obama has done to improve the south side of Chicago
Posted by: Tom NYC | May 12, 2008 2:55:37 PM
Bill decided to locate his office in Harlem to help out the black community. It was a big deal before Obama supporter's labeled him a racist. His goal was to bring economic growth to an impoverished area of NY just like he did when he was governor of AR. If I remember correctly he doubled the gross domestic product of the state of AR while he was the governor--I remember the Republican jokes about it but would have to check the facts. That's why Hillary did well with the black community in New York. I think she received almost every black vote in the district where Bill has his office.
Hillary ran in NY because that is where she and Bill live.
Posted by: jlynne | May 12, 2008 2:59:13 PM
Well, I don't vote along party lines. If I were a Hillary supporter and she didn't win the nomination, I'd write her in. The same for Obama. I'm just seeing a lot of people whining here.
Posted by: Big1 | May 12, 2008 2:59:14 PM
That ad was the best they could come up with?
I guess "hope", "yes, we can" really did get too tired - dream on if you think this guy is going to move large numbers of "white" Reagan Democrats over to Obama.
p.s., the contact lens commercial was better. Boy, those guys were cute!
Posted by: reagan Democrat | May 12, 2008 2:59:47 PM
I lived in NJ at the time, and everyone was questioning why she bought a house in NY, then ran for senator. They didn't live there until she decided to run for senator there. I followed that deal very closely.
Posted by: Big1 | May 12, 2008 3:01:36 PM
Did you follow the controversy over the office space too? That was in the works for a very long time.
Posted by: jlynne | May 12, 2008 3:08:48 PM
I have to laugh at all politicians. They actually except us to beleive that they care and are working for us, but the number 1 person is themselves and what they can do for themselves. That's why there are lobbyists and they aren't illegal (yet). Politicians are like lawyers.Greedy and selfish.
Posted by: Big1 | May 12, 2008 3:12:13 PM
Big1, Are you looking to implant some kind of conspiracy here. Because I don't see what the issue is. People can live where ever they want in this country and run for office there if they choice. I don't know why Clinton decided to run for the NY senate seat, but I am glad she did. Stick to the Sniper fire thing. That is the real Big1
they really got her there, exagerating--bbig story.
Posted by: Tom NYC | May 12, 2008 3:13:07 PM
Sorry, I don't trust her at all. She's very manipulative.
Posted by: Big1 | May 12, 2008 3:14:35 PM
"I have to laugh at all politicians. They actually except us to beleive that they care and are working for us, but the number 1 person is themselves and what they can do for themselves. That's why there are lobbyists and they aren't illegal (yet). Politicians are like lawyers.Greedy and selfish."
Hmm, that's exactly what Obama described as the sentiment is "bitter" statement. But you'd have to read the full answer rather than that snippet to get that context. His answer seems as accurate as you can get in trying to answer the broad question that was posed to him, even if his choice of words in the bitter line weren't completely politically sensitive and safe.
Posted by: T-Bone | May 12, 2008 3:19:16 PM
I didn't see what Obama said. I've felt like this for a very long time. I actually voted for my father in an election because I thought he was more trustworthy than anyone running.
Posted by: Big1 | May 12, 2008 3:21:32 PM
Let's try your argument.
Ignore the words in Obama's books. Ignore Obama's pastor of 20 years--he's out to get Obama because Obama denounced him. Ignore William Ayers--Obama was 8 when he tried to blow up the pentagon--it doesn't matter that he is unrepentant--and it doesn't matter that his wife (also a terrorist) worked with both Michelle and Obama at his Chicago law firm. Ignore Jodie Evans and Code Pink--it doesn't matter that she raised $600,000 for the families of the 9/11 terrorist. Ignore the fact that almost all of his policy positions are taken from Hillary except for his opposition to the gas tax. Ignore the fact that the only piece of legislation that can be tied to him is a pro-abortion bill. Ignore the fact that black legislators have said that their pet projects were hijacked in order to give him legislative experience.
After I've ignored all that, what is left for me to consider?
Hillary has CHIP--if you go back to before this electio



