That wimp Obama refuses to debate Clinton but makes time for that Obama Infomercial - otherwise known as "Meet the Press" tomorrow.

This is the "sweeps" period. As a Clinton supporter I'm not advancing NBC and plan to protest Obama's unwillingness to debate. I won't be watching tomorrow. I hope other Hillary supporters will tune in instead to Clinton's Town Hall on ABC - where she isn't afraid to speak to real voters.

With 95% of the vote counted, according to a CNN tally, Obama had won 53% against Clinton's 47% in Guam but this does not tell the whole story. Guam has 13 delegates of which 8 get 1/2 vote and the other 5 are SD's. Of the SD's, one is committed to Clinton and the other 4 are uncommitted. If the Guam pledged delegate allocation is all or nothing then Obama would get 4. That would bring the tally to Obama 4, Clinton 1, and 4 undecided. Given the fact that Guam is an island territory with close roots to Hawaii (Obama's birthplace and home until adulthood), it is surprising that Clinton did so well among its voters in a caucus. In no way was it considered a significant victory for Obama and the SD's may tip it to Clinton on behalf of the interests of its voters. Obama is opposed to allowing Guam residents to vote in a Presidential election whereas Clinton is in favor of it (wants Guam to be able to become a state.) Both are in favor of reparations paid by the US Govt (from its Japan reparations) to Guam residents who were held hostage by Japan.

Exactly how can Hillary claim she pays her bills? How many colleges and small businesses does her campaign owe? She talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk....again

The Rev. Wright issue involves character, judgment, and racism. For example, I am against what the KKK stands for, but they have a right to their twisted opinions about race. However, I would never vote for a member of the KKK for President, because racism is a deal-breaker for me. Likewise, I respect Obama''s right to belong to a racist black liberation theology church for 20 years, and consider its racist pastor his "mentor and spiritual adviser," but I''m sure as heck not going to vote for him. I think that''s one of the reasons so many millions of Hillary Clinton supporters have said that they would rather vote for McCain than Obama. Racism is wrong, period, no matter who practices it.

Her collection facing, 10million dollar debt campaign sure did one heck of job modeling her father's middle class values. I have know idea who this woman is. The pistol packing hometown girl from Scranton. The middle class value preserving girl from Illnois. The go to Southern Belle in Arkansas or the Yankee cap wearing city girl in New York. Will the real Hillary please stand up?

Oh and yes Obama did vote for the gas tax in Illnois and then repealed it later because it wasnt saving the consumer any money. That is why he doesnt support it now. Because it doent work. Hillary herself didnt support it in NY because it doesnt work!!

From nytimes today:

"“I was appalled by Hillary going with the gas tax,” said Alice M. Rivlin, a budget director under former President Bill Clinton who supports Mrs. Clinton for the nomination. It “looked like pandering,” Mrs. Rivlin said.

An open letter signed recently by more than 100 economists said the proposed tax holiday would do little to reduce gas prices. In part, that is because a fall in prices would lead to more demand, which would cause prices to return to their earlier level. The result would be that overseas oil-producing governments would get money now flowing to the United States government in gas taxes."

('For Democrats, Instincts Differ on Economics' by D. Leonhardt)

Economists with Taxpayers for Common Sense agree with the short and long term plans proposed by Clinton. They fix the flaws of Obama's former plans. Be wary of Wahsington insiders and ecnomists who work for oil companies signing a letter supporting Obama.

Hillary tell me how you sent those boys to Iraq without proper equipment.

So what happened to the 65% of the vote that Obama was to get in Guam, this major landslide victory.

He out spends Hillary with newspaper ads, tv ads in Guam 5-1, he set up an office weeks ago on the island and this is his best result??

I am waiting to see how the MSM spins this one for Obama, for weeks they were saying this is his now what?

When was she middle class? Brought up in a conservative republican home in a wealthy part of town. Never went hungry, never had to choose work over school. Never had to be her own source of financial support. Has been working toward gaining political power since early college.

Yeah right...she never lost touch...she
couldn't even operate a gas-station coffee machine. Who is the real elitist.
Hillary is as phoney as they come. She said to Bill OReilly that she wasn't trying to be something she is not. What
about running from sniper fire? That is exactly lying about being something you are not. At first she was aggravating...then she and her campaign were sort of funny and entertaining..now
it has become pathetic to the point that I think she has lost her mind!!!

How many vote Obama won Guam by lol

Obama got 65% of the vote landslide lol

5-1 out spent Hillary in Guam lol

Big, big, win for Obama lol

"I feel your pain" "I feel your pain"
sound familiar?

I hope Obama is breaking out the bubbly now that sure is a huge smashing victory in Guam. MSM for weeks were calling it his place it was going to be a blow out, my my what went wrong??

Seven votes that's it folks, 7 votes more than Hillary lol

Obama won by 7 votes in Guam, they will probably find hundreds of votes for Hillary that the Obama caucus henchmen hid or threw away.

Yeah Hillary is so in touch she can't even operate a coffee machine at 7-11 let alone pump gas. One speech from Bill in China covers gas for the whole Clinton clan and probably the entire senate for the rest of their lives. Hillary is a fraud and a liar.

when Hillary returns to the White House after winning the presidency, mr obama can rest assured that she'll let him have a tour of the White House because thats the closest he'll ever get. Go Hillary!!!!!!!!

Karl Rove said it very nicely the other night, "Democrats have a knack of gathering together, singing Kumbaya together, then walking over a cliff together!" Except Rove left out that Hillary supporters will refuse to walk off the cliff with Obama, Dean, Pelosi and company. We owe a big thank you to Reverend Wright for finally outing Obama as a closet racist. What else is lurking in Obama's closet?

This is somewhat sad, a lot sad. Please excuse my ‘rural’ sense of humor.
Hillary, on the campaign trail the other day, said “bet on the filly”. Of coarse she meant it as a metaphor, about the Derby and her own race. BUT, did ya’ll see what happened?
Big Brown won the race. The filly came in second, broke BOTH her front legs and was killed on the spot…
Ya’ll just think about how that “pertains” to the Democratic race.
Big Brown 08

Independent Voter - You are right, I should include her major accomplishment of beating the RNC machine attackers that spent 40+ million of our tax dollars trying to find and prove wrongdoings by Senator Clinton. The facts are clear... they found nothing. I will give you credit for identifying her misstatements which she has acknowledged. With increasing momentum since that event, it is clear that the voters do not feel it has any correlation to this race for the nomination or the Presidency. She is the most vetted candidate in our history after 29 years of scrutiny. Her negatives primarily relate to the false picture painted by the RNC. One item that comes to mind as I read your screenname and the post was a known fact that most Independent Voters vote Republican. I am proud to be one who is a Clinton supporter.

Pacific News Center Staff Reporter 04.MAY.08
9:30 a.m. Guam - The Democrat Party Nominating Committee said officials will look over the large amount of "spoiled ballots" in the coming days.

At issue is the small margin of victory of Senator Barack Obama. He beat his rival, Senator Hillary Clinton by 7 votes, but well over 500 ballots were deemed invalid during the tabulation process.

Herbie Perez, chairman of the nominating committee, said she will not certify the results because the Committee needs to ensure that all the uncounted ballots were properly identified as "spoiled."

She said officials from the Party and representatives from both candidates will meet probably Monday or Tuesday to address that issue.

Perez revealed she is also looking into the missing ballots.

More than 8,100 were printed in response to reports of shortages at precinct sites. But when the final tally came in, only a little over 4,500 ballots were used. - Pacific News Center - Guam, Saipan, CNMI, Asia-Pacific

DCVOTER is on HIlly pay roll.....Listen to the mess of crap. A win by 7 DC is good as a mile HAHA

The only one that would screw with the balliots DC is your wonderful Hilly and Billy.....Be damn careful what you imply.

@DCVoter:

Your enthusiasm for Senator Clinton is evident, however I think that the argument that she has evaded or defeated the RNC attack machine is incorrect. The argument that all of her "baggage" is out there and that she has been "vetted" is similarly incorrect in my opinion. I do not want to rehash the reasons, as I believe they are self-evident. I do not state this to say "don't vote for her", but rather that the corollary, "don't vote for Obama" is false.

Neither Democrat nominee is a saint, but let's presume for a moment that the Democrats nominated Saint Peter. He would be depicted as a sandal-wearing, tree-hugging, liberal, socialist who wants to tax the rich and has pie-in-the-sky ideals. Then comes the swiftboat ad: "I personally heard him deny Christ three times." The point is that no human is immune from these kind of attacks.

h - you obviously did not read the substance of the article... a "recount" is going to happen because it was too close, 500 ballots were not counted, and nearly half the printed ballots are missing. Neither candidate won Guam so far regardless of the MSM calls. We will not likely know for several days at least. Per all projections and the money spent by Obama with an office in Guam and paid staffers in Guam along with a minority white population in Guam as well as close proximity to Hawaii and Indonesia, Obama should have won Guam by a landslide and it did not happen. Now the facts show we do not know who actually won yet.

Why should Obama have won Guam by a landslide. Not all AA are voting for him. Let's stop making this a race issue please.

@lisa: to some, even when he wins by a landslide, it doesn't count.

Hillary understands what families are going through?? Has she lost a home through foreclosure? Lost a car thru-repo? Had her water-lights-or heating cut off?? Ran out of money to put food on the table? Hillary has and never will go through any of this.I have gone through all of the above.Until she does -then and only then can she tell me she knows how I feel.

Hillary understands what families are going through?? Has she lost a home through foreclosure? Lost a car thru-repo? Had her water-lights-or heating cut off?? Ran out of money to put food on the table? Hillary has and never will go through any of this.I have gone through all of the above.Until she does -then and only then can she tell me she knows how I feel.

MIguy I have never said that anyone should not vote for Obama. I have said they should vote for Clinton which is my opinion as her supporter. It is also my opinion that she is more vetted than any candidate in history and I dont think that can be disputed based on the facts of how much money and time was spent investigating her for 29 years. I agree that none of the candidates are angels or perfect. We dont have the luxury of choice of a perfect or totally honest politician - one does not exist. Our legitimate choices in our system limit us to the candidates at present. As always, the voters are faced with choosing a lesser of evils. As for plans proposed, they are 95% the same. As for ways to each candidate plans to implement those plans, there are differences. As for qualifications/resume of each candidate, there are differences. We the voters have to decide which one we have the most faith in to execute their plans in the best interest of ourselves. Each of us has different priorities and we cast our votes based on those priorities. As for the facts, we are seeing a definitive momentum shift expressed by the voters. It will be up to the SD's to make the call on behalf of the party. I personally want to see the reasons why there were discrepancies in Guam and if there was any wrongdoing as well as the results. Until then, one thing is clear - neither candidate won Guam yet.

lisa - Obama is the one who projected a win with 65% of more in Guam. No one is making it a race issue - demographics are valid measures of voter priorities. Obama grew up in Hawaii and spent time in Indonesia. Guam is between them and the population/culture is similar. Obama outspent Clinton 5-1 in ads in Guam and had a full time office there with 3 paid staffers. Clinton had no one working the island and did not visit it. All campaigns including the Obama camp target demographics because each one has their own set of things that matter most to them. I have no doubt the Clinton campaign did not expect a win or even a close race in Guam. The results thus far are surprising everyone.

@DCVoter: Some would say that it is curious that a candidate has been investigated so much. Spin is spin and so is the eye of the beholder. With that said, I'm not disagreeing with much of what you said. However, the "vetting" argument is one not really directed to voters as much as superdelegates and some use the argument as to an overall "electability". My point is the argument does not work on many levels.

@Ernest: I don't know much about "black theology" as you describe it, but I think it is probably narrow to apply it to blacks in general. I think we should all be a little careful when we criticize other's religions (or presume we know what others believe) as we'll wind up as "my religion is better than yours". That's much of the rest of the world and what many of the early immigrants were escaping.

@Ernest: By the way, these posts are short and in no way did I mean or intend that you were making a 'racist' comment. Thought I'd better clarify that.

MIguy - I respect your opinion on electability and disagree. But it does not matter which of us is correct. What matters is what the SD's think. Dean is the one who has confirmed that the electability argument will be considered. If I remember correctly, because the popular vote and the delegate count are likely to be opposing numbers with a race too close to call based on voter preference alone, he said perception in the remaining races (momentum) combined with electability will be the deciding factors. We may disagree with the way electability is determined as do the SD's among themselves. But in the end, a nominee will be selected. We should all be excited about being participants in such a historic race! I keep track of the numbers and analyze them statistically because I enjoy it - personally and professionally. It gets more interesting with each contest. :)

@DCVoter: True enough - it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.

@Ernest & hinnis: respect your opinions, but from my watching/listening I have not seen Senator Obama as a racist. When I hear Rev. Wright and Senator Obama, I hear two different men who speak on race and other issues in completely different ways. Do you really think Senator Obama is a closet reverse racist?

I agree that Rev. Wright seems to be on the fringe and doubt that many of us would vote for him. But ultimately he is not on the ballot and I'm not planning on writing him in.

Actually Obamabots dont respect anyones opinions you dont know the facts go away

MIguy I completely agree with you on Obama and Wright. My thoughts on the superdelegats are that they will go with Obama. And it's not because of race. The Clintons are not well liked in Washington and have been thought of as bullies.

"The Clintons" are not running for office. Senator Clinton is and she is very well liked in Washington by democrats, republicans, and independents. The ones who dont like her are the right wing and the left wing. However, those are minorities in the Senate and the country... 70% of us are centrists and the people we elect reflect those views overall. Time will tell if the centrists of the SD's will override the leftists of the SD's. I could make the same assertion that Obama is not well liked in the Senate but at least I can back it up with an article that chastises him for coattailing democrats and republicans - Dodd is one of the objectors. But I dont think it is even relevant to the nomination race because most voters do not keep up with the politics in politics to realize that Ferraro was right.

Hillary is in touch. She puts forth both short-term and long term plans to help every day families combat an economic crisis that's far reaching. The Holiday gas tax is a short-term solution to help Americans to cope in the near-term. She has also developed plans that are designed to impact the problem long-term. At least she has a plan, rather than just opposition.

Obama supported this gas tax twice as an Illinois senator.

What's most important for the coming primaries is Obama's judgment and decision-making skills. He spent twenty years steeped in Black Liberation Theology which is counterproductive to Americans of all races and ethnicities. He chose to stay in the church and to stay closely connected to Wright. It took him twenty years and six weeks to figure out this was a bad connection. Most people believe, as I do, that Obama's latest denunciation of Wright was for political expediency, and not a decision based on a moral imperative or ethical integrity. A leader's ability to make sound decisions and to seek appropriate council is of critical importance. Obama has demonstrated that he isn't, at this time, remotely capable of doing that.

The supers are influenced by a number of factors: their own political post and future support, their political positioning, the party leadership, current and future rewards for their alliance, and electability. This last aspect may well be the most important because it directly affects everything else. It also includes what segments of the electorate will feel slighted if the nominee is not their preference. From this standpoint, the supers need to consider Hilary supporters (many of whom will vote for McCain if Obama is the Nominee) and the Black voting block (who may potentially feel slighted if Obama is not the nominee). It's not an easy decision, and I don't envy them. Still, if Hillary wins indiana (which is likely) and comes close or wins in North Carolina, the supers will have to consider the fact that Obama may not be able to beat McCain. And, if Obama can't beat McCain, everything else is moot.

Bo smells like Dukakis Kerry gore and McGovern

Bo smells like Dukakis Kerry gore and McGovern

DCvoter, Hillary is not well liked in DC

lisa - apparently you dont keep up with politics... take a few hours to research the records and you will see that Clinton has a record of bipartisanship and accomplishments well beyond Obama's... if she were not well liked she would not have that record... in addition take a look at some real news stories about her instead of the propaganda you are sourcing from... the left wing and the right wing are the minority (hence they are wings) and the body of Washington greatly respects her work to the point they publicly honor her and work with her. Obama on the other hand was recently warned about his coattailing by his own surrogates. He is not well liked as a Senator but is well liked within the left wing controlled DNC. Funny thing... voters dont elect DNC officials. LOL

DCVoter -- Your point about "wings" is spot on. Bell curve folks, bell curve.

Mike -- Why don't you tell us how she doesn't have a shot at the nomination? If she didn't have a shot, why hasn't Obama clinched the nomination yet?

This Rev. Wright issue involves character, judgment, and racism. For example, I am against what the KKK stands for, but they have a right to their twisted opinions about race. However, I would never vote for a member of the KKK for President, because racism is a deal-breaker for me. Likewise, I respect Obama's right to belong to a racist black liberation theology church for 20 years, and consider its racist pastor his "mentor and spiritual adviser," but I'm sure as heck not going to vote for him. I think that's one of the reasons so many millions of Hillary Clinton supporters have said that they would rather vote for McCain than Obama. Racism is wrong, period, no matter who practices it.

Ferraro statement, if Obamo was a white male. What if Clinton was a black female where would she be?

James said: Ferraro statement, if Obamo was a white male. What if Clinton was a black female where would she be?

James: If Clinton were a black female with the same qualifications that she has now, she would probably have knocked Obama out of the race long ago. Why? Because Obama would have lost his most potent weapon -- the race card.

If Hillary's last name wasn't Clinton, she would have never made it this far.

She mentioned NASCAR. That alone should be good for a few thousand votes. Man, she's so "in touch" with us voters.

k: You are correct. I remember when Bush ran in 2000 and 2004, I though, who in their right mind would vote for this guy. But, millions did. Smugly, I thought that the Democratic Party was much too principled to make the same mistake. Now, we have Obama. Not only does the Democratic Party have millions of individuals who are willing to entrust the future of this country to an inexperienced charlatan, they also justify racism and the disenfranchisement of millions of voters in Florida and Michigan. I'm not so smug anymore.

K

THe Obama supporters were enabled by mischeivous independant and republicans that switched so they could vote for him in the primary then switch back... we need to have all closed primaries and winner take all delegates in that case Hillary would be the nominee by now

Okay people, lets take RACE and RELIGION out of the equation. From what you have seen in the last 16 months who do you think is more electable and would change the country for the better. Obama is in experience which he admits and Hilliary has all this experience especially with foreign country which I haven't seen, heard of, or can verify. Being the 1st Lady does NOT equate foreign experience. So the question is - who will be able to get more done in the White House. Someone that wants a bipartisan America or someone that wants to maintain government as is.