Im voting for Mcain if Obama is nominated.Thats a fact.

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Oh sorry I'll vote for Huillary then. Note

Many of us have a deep respect for Senator Clinton. However it is undeniable she has not only run a more negative campaign than Obama but is also promising more to each voter segment than Obama.
This in and of itself is not troubling. After all we all want very much the nominee to promise and deliver on programs which will help our nation.
The problem with Hillary is that her promises have now entered the territory of pandering. The difference between the promise and the pander is that the ladder is a "disingenious promise"
For example, Hillary knows the "gas tax" holiday doesn't make economic sense but also it will never become a reality under of her terms of windfall profits provisions and countless other qualifiers. And it certainly will not happen anytime soon.
Similarly Hillary has promised voting rights to Guam in an attempt to scare up a few more votes. Something she has had thirty years to fight for had she been sincere!
In sum, this is why people don't trust her because the longer her campaign goes on the more she seems to prove she's the "say anything, do anything" to get elected candidate rather than the one who will honestly deliver.

Oh I forgot, patriotism isn't his thing. He went to Harvard instead of the military. Nice touch to his PR guy, he sure looked good at his photo shoot playing basketball in a USMC t-shirt. But, of course, you sure wouldn't catch him pandering. Well, there was that time he decided to not be friends with his minister any longer when it finally dawned on him he was losing the white vote. And then there was that time in San Francisco when he was speaking honestly to his wealthy peers about the lower class folk in rural america. Oh, we probably shouldn't forget about the illegal immigrants he wants to give driver's licenses to, some found that to be pandering. But other than that, I'm sure he would never pander.

God help this nation if you less educated white people, are so misinformed that you continue to let the Clinton's and the real elites use you as race baiters, and dumies to further pad their pockets with your working class tax dollars.

I cannot believe after all these years you continue to let your values blind you from the greed of those real elitist pigs. The nerve of you all, to not except the fact that Barack Obama is a part of you too and if you paid attention to what's happening to him, then you could understand just how very racist this country really is and it will never change, if you continue to allow those white supremists to use you.

This new story about Magnequench is deeply troubling and implicates both the Clinton and Bush administrations in the drain of critical military technology and jobs to China.

What’s worse is that Hillary Clinton is dishonestly, or perhaps unwittingly, using the example of Magnequench in her campaign.

It was the Clinton administration that let the sale of this key American company to China occur. It also looks like high level Clinton supporters facilitated the sale. This was a company that was based in Indiana.

The video in this article is very disturbing.

www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4757257&page=1

Obama is just disappointed he didn't propose the gas tax holiday first.

People from the midwest (Read: Hoosiers) travel during the summer. Many vacation at the ocean (Read: North Carolina and the Outer BAnks).

Not only do consumers benefit from the temporary rollback of this tax, but so do the thousands of workers and small businesses that rely on tourism.

I've got an idea: Write President Bush and get him on board. This might have an effect on his popularity ratings!

Go Hillary!!!!!! We love your fighting spirit!!

JH, what Hill is not saying is the fact that she is pushing like McCain to take money from somewhere (road and bridge safety funds) and use it to buy your vote. Could you imagine that somebody will tell you: I will give you money to buy gaz but I will take it from your fuding to be used to make your roads and bridges safe, what that person is telling you? I will make money available to you but your safety on the raod or on a bidge is not my problem. Hill and McCain are not thinking clearly, what they need is your vote. Period. The rest they do not care about you or your safety or the safety of your family. God save America from Hill and McCain. God bless America and God bless Obama. OBAMA08.

I still find it hilarious that Obama proposes NOTHING AT ALL , but has the gall to rip Clinton a new one because she actually TRIES to do something?

Lol. I have never in my life see a candidate who just rips apart someone elses plan , but himself has NO PLAN .

Obama says: Getting nothing is far better than getting a little.

Voters think that a little is better than nothing. They aint liberal elitists .

Saving $70 dollars over 12 weeks means that you're buying approximately 32 gallons of gas per week. If you assume that a car gets 20 miles to the gallon,this means that you're driving about 92 miles per day. Seems high.

The $0.30 figure seems more reasonable. If you drive on average 30 miles per day, you'll buy about 14 gallons per week and the tax holiday would save you $30 over 12 weeks (or about $0.36 per day).

Or course, either of these calculations assume that the price of gas actually drops by $0.18, which most people agree wouldn't happen.

Senator Clinton's statement looks to be incorrect.

"It's not just Obama, its virtually every economist in the country that says the gas tax holiday is dumb. She knows it too but she also knows pandering works with her uneducated, low information voter base."

Truer words were never more spoken. Amen Bob, DC. But I'll go even further, not just every economist in the country, every economist in the world knows this is a dumb idea!

Gasoline is averaging $3.86 per gallon way up here near the Canadian border in NY. The "politicians" are talking about suspending both federal and state gasoline taxes. That would be a savings of $$ per day in my case..not pennies per day. Those taxes are supposed to be for road repair. Have you watched the news lately? The roads nationwide are falling apart. Why pay the taxes for nothing ! I'll use that extra money that I'd be saving on gasoline and put it towards the $4.06 per gallon (right now) that it costs for Fuel Oil to heat my house ! As far as that $1200 rebate for married folks they're sending out now...that will be going to BIG OIL to fill my fuel tank. An empty 275 gallon tank at $4.06.9 per gallon =$1118.97. Enough heat for a month and a half ! So much for me stimulating the economy !

Hillary negatives attacks on Obama is not helping us either. If we continue on this path the GOP will seal the election in Nov.
Obama has promised us a new beginning, a change from the old style of politics, he has promised to tell us the truth and involve us in every process along the way and has demonstrated this, by getting over 1.4 million people contributing to his campaign and speaking the truth on all issues. The truth about the gas tax is a perfect example of a Leader telling his people the truth. Hillary and McCain are the “same old, same old” and will do anything to win. I cannot imagine the supporters of Hillary believing that you are going to save $70.00 over 5 months. Go and read, the hundreds of articles and statistics available on this. You will save 0.18 cents a day and within weeks the price of gas will increase and reduce the 0.18 cents to zero or negative by the end of the 5 months because of the basic law of demand and supply. In addition 13000 jobs will be lost in Indiana and NC and 300,000 overall. Increase damage to the environment and damage to our roads and bridges that rely on these taxes for repairs. So believe the pandering of Hillary and McCain and full your tank and drive, drive all summer. My only hope to you is that you do not fall off one of those bridges that may collapse because no money is left to repair the.

$70 to a widow on a Navy pension is a month's worth of gas if she scrimps and only makes necessary trips. But it's something.

So screw you, Obama.

For my Mom, thanks for remembering when a little means to a lot to the many, Senator Clinton.

I'd like her to explain the math behind the $70 (maybe she has). Like a lot of families, we have two cars. On average we'll fill up 2-3 times a month. So let's say 5 refillings @ 14 gallons @ $.18/gallon = $12.60 per month savings for a two-car family. Yup, I think I'll take that vacation I'd been postponing.

Come on, it's just an excuse for her to repeat an empty political refrain, "Obama's out of touch". It's ugly to watch. At a very visceral level, it's what turns respect for a strong, smart woman into loathing.

It's very simple. For those with money - this sounds like a ridiculous idea. However, all the truckers and low-income families can use the relief - $18 or $30 or whatever it amounts to. For them, it is about John McCain and Hillary Clinton attempting to find short-term ways to offer some relief. They are hurting. No logic about how this does not help much matters to them. They are hurting now.

Those of you (and I) against the long-term merits of the idea don't worry about .18 a gallon. I can afford that, and I can still pay for groceries.

OK- First, it's $70 per FAMILY. That's actually assuming two cars. It's really $35 per car. Second, Obama is absolutely not against a windfall profit tax, in he's proposing one himself. So any post that says otherwise is an out and out lie. Third, as Bob, DC pointed out, you would be hard-pressed to find a single economist that disagrees with Obama on this- but what do they know? And finally, Clinton didn't "beat" Obama to the punch on this. She actually stole the idea from McCain. That is, if they didn't just come up with it in a strategy meeting...
Maybe the problem with America is that we just hate hearing the truth. It's just so inconvenient- pass the Cheeze-Wiz

hey nana, last time i checked, the only person who has cried on the campaign trail is...drum roll...wait for it...hillary. she only wants to debate because she has run her campaign into debt and needs the free exposure. so go ahead with the "wimp" comments. the harsh reality is that the clinton's thought the nomination was "inevitable" and have run their campaign in the same conceited manner.

rst:

Your math is good. That $70 figure is generated from the same Clinton abacus that gives her the lead in the ethereal "popular vote".

I drive a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo. It has a 20-gallon tank. I fill up about once every 12 days, unless I make extra trips.

Using this example, and marking a savings of $0.184 per gallon, I save $3.68 every fill-up.

The holiday runs from Memorial Day to Labor Day - about 13 weeks, or 91 days. Let's say I fill up 8 times in 91 days.

My TOTAL savings is $3.68 * 8 = $29.44. Put another way, that's less than $10 a month during the holiday.

$70? I guess this is the same economic brilliance that produced Clinton's "middle class" tax cut - for everyone making less than $200,000 per year.

Then again, John McCain thinks that no American would take a job picking lettuce for $50 an hour. Yeah, that Obama sure is an elitist...

If Hillary want s to suspend the gas tax, quit talking about it, go to Washington, and introdue legislation. Put your money where your mouth is! I suspect she doesn't want to put it in writing so she can deny later that she supported the idea.

A lot of people are not looking at the bigger picture when it comes to a gas tax holiday. It is not just about average consumers. It is about all of the industry impacts in transportation. I did a bit of research and found the real data that Clinton's short and long term plans are based on. I will try to summarize the impacts here:

Clinton's Short Term and Long Term Plan: gas tax holiday for the summer, windfall tax on oils companies to make them share the burden and prevent new taxes on Americans, possible new regulation on pricing to prevent oil companies from passing these costs on to consumers

Impact: Annual reduction of $9 billion dollars in gas taxes currently paid to the US Highway Trust Fund. This is where our taxes go and under her plan they would not come out of consumer pockets but would be paid for by the oil industry to maintain highways (per economists with Taxpayers for Common Sense).

The impacts are much more complex than just expenses for gas. Any industry using transportation and energy (which is literally any business) can then be more competitive which stimulates the economy leading to lower prices on products and services and more jobs. Combine this with the short and long range plans for green jobs, restoration of our infrastructure, and increased security for our nation and you can see Clinton's plans are not only solid but help secure our futures in many ways. We should not be selecting a nominee based on any single issue - we need a nominee with a comprehensive plan that will bring smart change leading to our return to economic prosperity and peace.