Wow! Democratic Party Dinner! I knew Obama had the support of the Party in NC,. but I would have never expected this.

Again. Obama would never give a speech in front of a bunch of Clinton supporters. This is the third speech she has given in front of Obama supporters.

Arent Obama supporters swell? Their way or the highway. But then again, moveon.org and huffington post are going to HANG themselves over Clinton going on Oreilly.

After all these months of utter hatred from the far left wing, how dare Clinton give them the finger (finally).

Chris matthews now thinks fox is in a vast conspiracy with Clinton to harass his beloved Obama.

Has anyone asked Obama if he believes in black liberation theology yet?

Oh i forgot. Thats one of the swift boats they are saving for the general election. One of the many.

Typical Obama supporters. Booing fellow democrats. Hope, change, unity - Obama's new washington is on its way to town. Do not dare to question the messiah of unity, or you will be booed.

Sounds like the BO people have put people out there to cheer on BO and jeer Hillary just like in the debates but it doesn't matter because the people that are not there don't care which is 98% of the people outside of me that pay attention. I talk to people all the time and they are clueless because they don't blog or pay attention to the news channels.

Experience would count if it was all doing things that she said she done,,,She likes to play and hear herself talk big like she was in the middle of these things. ONLY if they are good thing if bad she opposed them.

Maybe Hillary has burned some bridges?

I wouldn't have thought thy would booo her like that, but one never knows.

And you know ... I would rather Barack Obama not go to Fox. I HIGHLY doubt he would get maybe 1 vote out a million by doing so.

One vote is not worth fighting with old Hatchman Hannity. I listen to this guy's radio show during the day in awe of his far reaching witch hunt. He repeats this long laundry list of mindless garbage and then brings in one of his minions to agree with him. And his audience is feeding off that crap.

A shame people cant think for themselves

I watched her speech on C-span tonight. She was terrific and what I saw were people cheering her with signs and shouting her name. ABC is so biased its pathetic!!! Shame on you!! Go Hillary go!!

Hillary in 2008!!

The reaction of the crowd at this event is reminiscent of the behavior of Senator Obama's supporters when I attended the Democratic caucus here in Texas to support Senator Clinton.

For those of you who found the behavior of the crowd at this event humorous, you exemplify the image people around the world have of Americans as rude and obnoxious people.

Much to our discredit, social grace appears to be all but dead in this country.

Georgia,

Don't you find it starnge that Clinton doesn't appeal to the other half of the Democratic Party?

I think it is a matter of half of us not listening to the other half.

Thanks for your input but I voted Obama

s.b. people have been booing and demonstrating about what they believe in for many, many years.....the wars, abortion, etc. They are not behaving like children. They have the maturity to speak up for what they believe. And it's call freedom of speech.

rs, don't you find it more than a little odd that the chanters of HOPE, CHANGE, UNITY, don't really convey it to the other half of the Party. That should tell us that it is all about theatrics or make believe. Grab your soundbites and go for it. If you say it often enough, it becomes theology and truth. Until everyone discovers the emptiness beneath. Bring out Deval Patrick again, because I liked his delivery better. Words....just words....We hold these words to be self evident....that "you can fool some people some of the time; you can fool all of the people some of the time, but, you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Sooner or later, "the chickens come home to roost!" Was that what Rev. Wright was preaching? Pray tell us some more about black liberation theology, maybe we could be converted.

Mathematically, Hillary can't win. Seems pretty cut and dried at this point. So I'm confused what you Hillary people are so exercised about... Seems like there's a failure to deal with reality going on here...

Freedom of speech does not mean that a mature adult abandons diplomacy or common courtesy. All the booing, snipes, snarks, and nastiness define the character of the people demonstrating the bad behavior, not the democratic party. Disrespectful behavior is NOT what the democratic party has traditionally been about, at least not since Obama advanced his big change.

peter

You are way off. Clinton didn't do crap.

Emily

Oh do I her crying...

Negativity loves company. And just so happened Queen Negativity was at the podium...

Peter, AA should not vote Hillary because they feel obligated to Bill. People need to vote on who they think the best canidate should be. What I really want to say would be deleted so I will just leave it as this.

@ peter:

I'm beginning to believe you may be right. Both Bill and Hillary Clinton devoted years to advancing the rights of African Americans, Hispanics, woman, and so many others. Suddenly now, the Obama camp brands them as racists. Methinks it's projection.

hillary is the next prez of the united states of america. she has shown integrity, grit, toughness, strength, fortitude, and will to keep going, and to face o'reilly on fox. stephonopolus should be an easy piece of cake for her. she can sure chew 'em up and spit 'em out when she has to. she is one tough lady.
and then there's obama. stutters and stammers over the rev wright. if he cannot stand up and control an insane pastor, how can he stand up to and control alquieda?

Oh Emily, please. This is called demonstrating and it has been going on way before Obama. So stop blaming him for the disruptions.

I belive in the Constitution.
I believe in honesty.
I believe our government is full of vile self indulgent individuals.
I believe our time is now.
I belive our future is in OUR OWN HANDS.
I believe HRC and McCain are part of the past.
I believe anything is possible.
I believe that my fellow humans are capable of seeing and believing what is obvious.

Obama 08

Thinking, I'm glad you got my point. After Obama supporters have called for Hillary to get out of the race continually, called her all kinds of unflattering names, then they can be totally disrespectful and boo her and the Governor at a Democratic Party dinner in Raleigh, what should we think? That the Obama people own the Party? That this is not a campaign where all voices can be heard with respect? Some people need to grow up. I am glad that you voted Obama, because I didn't, and I won't in November. Enjoy your moment while you can!

george, people do read more than one paragraph...as we are voting for our future leader of the USA. it is beholding to us all as we persue our choice. after all, freedom in all categories is what this election is all about. i am intrigued by these posts and respect all views of the bloggers. i may not agree with them, i may spar with them, but i respect them.
hillary is the candidate that represents the middle class blue collar worker. i want her to win as a lot of us do.....the indy star said today, 'she has a clear-eyed focus on the issues in this country.' and they are right...she does. when will obama spar with o'rielly on fox and show the country he can take on a right wing idiot like hillary did.....she did it with ease, and o'rielly respects and admires her for her class. talk about reaching across party lines.

When the polls drop, bring on the race-baiting, name calling, and ad hominine attacks on Hillary, and her supporters.

@ lisa: The "disruptions," as you call them, have been encouraged by the Obama camp from day one. These disruptions are discourteous, mean-spirited, and downright rude. They are also not representative of the democratic party or anyone with dignity.

She needs to shrink and go away.

Emily - Much like the words "disruption" and distraction" have been used by political candidates...so have the words "hope" and "change". Meanwhile, we have the Revvy Wright, Tony Ayers, Mr. Auchi, cousin Odinga, and many others. Your candidate is a liar.

also, i would like to comment, does everyone remember when hillary was the front runner for so long.....and the attack ads were all against her, and everyone was looking for every little thing, past, present and future wrong so they could media blast her? maybe now obama knows how hillary feels and understands what she went through for so long.

Some sure are reaching for bloodlines and affiliations to discredit Obama.

The Clinton past is rather deep, and quite frankly, unresolved. The MSM won't touch it *yet*. They are saving up for mainstream media ratings, shall we go there now and give them a head start?

Don't assume your HRC is resilient. you can't even understand media- and give HRC and her husband more credit then they deserve.
Kinda like buying a Hummer- you might think you look cool, but most of us just think you are a fool.

bud, like being with the rev. wright for 20 years was 'cool' but now a 'fool.'

Erin - When did I discuss race? I was talking about relationships between countries in our world. Your candidate supported his cousin who wants to make Kenya subject to Muslim law.

georgia

If clinton, the inevitable candidate, was leading with a unsurpassable pledge delegate, a highly probable unpassable lead in popular vote, double the number of states won, and obama was in her position, there would be the LOUDEST CRY of contempt against obama. i believe Dean, Gore, the Clintons, all three branches of government, FOX, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, LIFETIME CHANNEL, ESPN, NICK, DISNEY AND everyone else would be demanding he concede.

But since its Hillary, hey we need to let the people voices be heard.... obama need more vetting (more like witch hunting). She been moving the goal post all over the field.. first there was popular vote, then there was big states, then there was electoral states, then there just now electability..... when will it end....

let the double standards continue

the woman is fearless! while obama will not even debate her. way to go hillary bet they expected you to go into a fetal position like obama after the abc debate.

DcVoter-
I am capable of reasonable debates. I won't even use insults as points. What shall we debate in front of our fine audience? We can address this one question at a time, or numerous, the choice is yours. I am an intelligent Independent voter for Obama, so I welcome your response.

Obama has such a boatload of dirty friends……drip…drip if that boat springs a leak…watch out. Look at Rezko on trial right now. Rezko, as a real estate magnate in Chicago, was given a contract for 3 energy plants to be built in Iraq…. through our government. The plants were never built because Rezko got indicted, but NO DOUBT that Senator Obama helped Rezko GET that contract for Rezko. Not to mention that Axelrod was a lobbyist for Exelon (and the later nuclear legislation with no teeth), or that much of the $$$ loans came through General Electric Financial. Who have been large contributors to Obama’s campaigns, General Electric and Exelon! Who owns one of the largest loan insurance and credit card companies in America, General Electric. Who voted for unlimited credit limits and voted against a 30% cap on credit cards? Obama! Obama said he voted against the 30% cap because it was too high. Apparently NO cap is better than a cap that’s too high. Who owns NBC and MSNBC the home of all anti-Hillary all the time? General Electric! Who owns Chris Matthews, Tim Russert, Keith Olbermann and Andrea Mitchell? General Electric! Do you think Obama made a speech against the war in Iraq because of his own personal ideology? Which company is doing business in Iran right now? General Electric! No wonder Obama wants to sit down with Ahmedinajad. Why are the Obamanations booing Hillary? They should be booing their liberal fascist leader!

DCVoter, Even Rev. Wright said that Obama was a politician, while he (Wright) was a pastor. He said that Obama would say what he needed to say because he was a "politician". Wright said that he as a pastor answers to God. I probably fall in with the 58%, however, let us "think" a little harder. Perhaps, they planned this whole charade. Wright would make a speech at the National Press Club and respeak his hate rantings. Then, Obama could have a speech for the national media to "act" like he was outraged and denounce Wright. Then, the media and the voters will see that the slate is wiped clean--no more talk about Wright--no more awful baggage for Obama. Did they both "wink" as they played their parts to perfection? Great "thinking" on your part, DC, and mine, too!

Wow- the mainstream media fed posts are abundant here, kinda scary. Does anyone posting on this site do their *OWN* research?
Guess that's toomuch to ask of folks in the information age-
ROFL........

When Jesse Jackson ran in 1988 all the way to the convention supposedly promoting a party split along racial lines, no one asked him to step out of the race. In fact, he was heralded for his effort. No one has ever asked any candidate to withdraw from a race in the history of the party. Dean sets a dangerous precedent that could lead to a party split by stating one of the candidates should withdraw in June. Any voter who suggests Clinton should withdraw exhibits misogynistic behavior and bias against the only viable female presidential candidate in history. Leahy and Dean have both published anti-Clinton statements prior to this race for the nomination. The bias of the leadership in the DNC is clear. It is up to the voters to rebut their efforts as true Americans and supporters of democratic processes.

omentum, can you please explain to me and 90 % of the rest of these people on this blog, and if fact across america, why obama should be president? how can you convince me and so many others by one sitting in a pew for 20 years and being brainwashed is suddenly unwelcome, or denounced. what do you think of the wright's comment....he is doing what politicians do.....what do you think of rattso.....what do you think of ayers....what do you think of the nbpp.......above all else,what do you think of obama subjecting his children to these kind of 'hate' sermons for so long.....well???

bud, obama's hate cult is REALLY a part of the past.....we do not need racism in the WH

whenever Hillary or Bill Clinton have rally , Obama campaign always send some hecklers.
That is childish.

Of course Obama or one of his "superdelegate" spokespersons - oh why not Claire McCaskill, she's so intelligent, "I'm voting for Obama because my teenager told me to" - will come out tomorrow and say that they do not endorse or encourgage rude behavior on the part of Obama supporters towards the other Democratic candidate - who should get out of the race NOW! Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi must be so proud.

Hillary 08!

omentum....sorry, i clearly disagree....let us pretend for one minute that hillary supports the KKK, hagee, racism, wright, rattso. OMG there would be a media explosion that would be felt to japan. let's be real please.

Funny thing,

i was looking at the demconblog and noticed that superdelegates always switch from clinton to obama and never from obama to clinton...

WONDER WHYYYYYY hmmmmmm......... when the ship is sinking........well... you know

Nah. It's just rock politics. Try playing to a crowd of Bruuuuuucccee fans. And it's Southern politics. Welcome to the revival. True believers get rowdy.

The Republicans are already running ads here in Alabama using Obama to beat the local Democrats. This isn't just Hillary's campaign anymore. A lot of Democratic candidates are tied to the Obama train wreck in progress.

If Obama gets the nomination, I will completely disown the democratic party despite being one my whole life. The democratic party is unrealistic, it wins when it nominates a moderate candidate. Gore, Edwards, Clinton could have won, but Obama is too left and his associations are scary. I will not only vote for McCain but I will give money and campaign for him as well. The alternative is disaster. Sorry. I bet a good chunk of Clinton supporters may also vote McCain and may also completely abandon the party. Clinton supporters- moderate, conservative, working class dems-- we should form a new party and call it the realists and get away from the radical left of our party. We deserve better. Finally, I would rather be a republican than vote Obama democratic. I cannot believe I am saying this but it is the truth. The DNC and head in the sand party leaders can have the party and see how well they do without the moderate branch of the party.

thank you dc voter and erik for the information. i value posts that contain cited information that is verifiable. that shows that the poster is informed, beyond just spewing hate and opinion.

omentum, our ship is not sinking....not in any way shape or form. how is obama's arc doing after the rev wright, rattso, ayers, the rest of the snake oil politicians.....

@ DCVoter: EXCELLENT post!

When who runs this country is based on electability aside from what is right- that says enough.

My granpa who served in Vietnam cries when he watches the political process. He sees what those men in women in Iraq are dying for- oil. NONE of us voted for BUSH and his policy. NONE of us are fools. My granfather deserves respect, and for all of his years on this planet and his time served, I respect his opinion ABOVE ALL ELSE>

Obama is the right candidate. ON foreigh relations, on future economy and on how to treat our veterans.

Aside from my 34 year old opinion, I regasrd my granpa's opinion above all news media.

AND I ALWAYS WILL. If you haven't been to Vietnam- spare me.

omentum, do you mean to tell me that the rev wright's comments toward america, patriotism, racism, 'were not as severe' as those of the kkk. wow....i despise everything there is to do with hate and racism and un-americanism. i believe in freedom of speech, freedom of choice, and all the other blessings our constitution gives us. the rev wright tainted my feelings on obama when obama did not act when he should have.

Texasdeom

you are right he may well win the nomination ... but like Hillary says the best candidate will win and shes the best candidate but we will band together to elect Mccain if Obama with his multiple faults and associations is nominated he cant win the GE in his own right anyway!

did you not get the memo .... wright is on hillary boat.... since an enthusiastic hillary supporter invited him to the press club..... Thanks .... you gave barack obama another opportunity to show he is a statesman and able to react properly in a tough situation....

Not like your girl hillary... I can still remember here complaining in the debates asking the moderators to get obama a pillow and in ohio ranting "shame on you obama" what a whackjob... and you want that in the oval office making global decisions.

did anyone read the article? The crowd was not booing clinton, they were booing the GOVERNOR, geez' read.

thank you staniam.

Wasn't it a major Clinton Supporter who arranged that Wright spectacle? UMMM>>>>> YES! WOW- what a pop quiz... as I tell my grampy what i type, he says'
"you tell them"
"they think about now, no research, not what the history books will say 40 years from now, people are so foolish"

AGREED.

@ Obama supporters whoever said boo is not childish but freedom of speech.

If they don't like whatever Hillary said at that rally why don't they just leave rather than interrupting.
Nobody force them to stay and listen to her.

Carolyn Morwickc:
What Experience?

The handwriting is on the Wall!
Time to Go Home Hillary and take
Bill with You!

bud, i read your post on your father's service. god bless you, as my late father served in the korean war, met general mcarthur, and saw a lot of death and destruction. i heard his truths and stories, i couldn't believe it upon hearing it. i may disagree with your choice of a politician, but here's to you and your father, and mine.

rizabove

Gov Easley is sortof a stiff but that means hes tough and wont listen to the Obamanation! Obama has not won one major state that every candidate has to win in the GE

Emily 11:01:10 pm,

I agree with you.

Hey Omentum..Perhaps what CarlaSue meant is that under an Obama presidency, it may become politcially correct to do so. The BO campaign makes people believe that things could "change". It's not BO so much.....it's his supporters.

omentum, no i don't need a history lesson thank you. but racism leads to violence, hate, murder, and i don't care what color on color, murder is murder, hate is hate, and we all need to start thinking for the better interest of the HUMAN race....thank you

Bud

THe National Press Club Pres said it was not a CLinton supporter who arranged the speech and furthermore that doctored video about the 92 Clinton war room is inaccurate Pres Clinton did not use expletives in the real meeting I remember it most of you where like 2 then!

Omentum

but at least hes respected and has a little thing called experience since hes served two terms as governor

carlasue rev wright was preaching about the injustices in America done to minorities. He said many blacks did not feel like singing God bless America... Wright's message is far a man who lived through jim crow, voter and civil rights...he never got over the injustices obviously and is still angry because of the wrongs committed, but obama didn't grow up during that era, all of us have parents and grandparents who lived through that era and they tell their stories and triumphs... Some still mad like wright, but we still hear it...Obama dowsn't feel the same way...that is a big well known southside chicago church, it's a buppy church not a cult or compound, he isn't brainwashed, get over it. I say just vote for whomever you like, that we can do.

rizabove, then let's rise above as you say. why should we uphold the rev's comments as we know them......if i made those statements on this blog, i would have a lynch mob after me, i don't care what color i am. or what color the rev wright is. hate is hate...racism is racism.....injustice to one is injustice to all.....together we stand.....

TJ

since the Jefferson-Jackson Dinners are DNC functions its no surprise... DR Dean was comlianing about a lack of money at the DNC (I know I refused to renew my mombership) because of their mistakes

DcVoter,

Very good comment.

Obama supporters bash folks who disagree with their liberal philosphy.

Obama supporters BOO anyone who doesnt think like they do.

You guys think Obama has it tough right now? How about when Fox gets around to asking him about black libertarian philosophy?

his church has been practicing it for long before Obama got there.

How does he say he doesnt believe in it nor the 'black value system' but went to the church?

He doesnt. Hannity went and got experts, other black preachers to discuss it and trinity church.

All they have to do is tie in the philosophy to the church and Obama is toast for sure this time.

Whats Obama going to say to that? He wasnt in the pews at all? He never read the manifesto? He didnt know the black value system?

Another reason not to vote for Obama. So many of his supporters are childish and classless. No Hillary, then GO McCain!

I really think Clinton can win the nomination. If she does not though, I will take my money and my vote elsewhere. I hear Obama supporters saying all the time what they will do if he does not get the nomination. Unfortunately, they really have nowhere to go. They are the left. I really do not want to be left to voting for McCain. I like Clinton, but also could have easily voted Gore, Edwards, etc. I voted for John Kerry, Al Gore, and Bill Clinton twice proudly. I can and will not vote for Obama. This is a sad fact that the DNC fails to recognize. It is absolutely not a threat. I do not feel extremely fanatical about Clinton, I just cannot vote for Obama. Finally, Clinton has gotten some of the worst press and sexist stuff too. I read one article somewhere that said she was "pimping Chelsea". This is just crude, and I am tired of the behavior of the press--getting away with behavior like that and so much more. The DNC is really silly if they buy into all this. Sorry it is the truth. They say hindisght is 20/20 but some in the party are trying to warn you ahead of time of the disaster looming ahead.

stanium who says Ohio and Pennsylvania are that important? Hillary grew up in Penn. Have you been to Ohio? It's more like the deep south. Obama will win New York and California...always strong dem states duh. He will win period if he gets the nomination and Hillary will help him... Read the article again.

clinton should win the nom!!! can anyone else comment with me about the o'reilly interview on fox. yes i don't like the right-wing crap on fox, and yes, oreilly is the worst of the worst of right-wing journalists, but wow, did hillary stun him....he looked like the perverbial 'deer in the headlights' after the interview....can anyone else do that....

thx Emily et al

staniam - she already holds the lead in popular votes because the elections in FL and MI were certified. I agree her lead will likely increase. Many voters do not understand the nomination process and the electoral process. The seasoned unpledged delegates (SD's) understand it well hence the reason they have not endorsed. As you well know, in a nutshell, the voters provide them with a guideline by which to cast their vote at the DNCC. While the race is about delegates, SD's are delegates too and they will consider the popular vote of all the states and territories as well as electoral power.

When the race is not close, their votes on behalf of the party do not matter. This year, the voters are unable to give either nominee half the available pledged delegates so it does matter. As WJC stated, SD's have a job to do on behalf of the party in the interest of the voters who support their candidates and it is a tough one. Ultimately, as Dean stated, it comes down to electability and perception of momentum in these remaining races. For those who are unclear, let's review how the nomination race works:

Number of states won - irrelevant to electability because more than half the states are red (most of Obama's red state wins are irrelevant in the GE)

Number of blue and swing states won - relevant in terms of electoral power (Clinton has already surpassed the 270 electoral vote mark and Obama cannot possibly attain it)

Popular vote - relevant in terms of the GE race popularity/momentum (Clinton leads and the lead is likely to grow)

Demographic vote - relevant in terms of GE electoral power (Clinton has a broader appeal)

In November, 270 electors are needed to win the Presidency. In summary, Clinton's electoral power of 286 electors to Obama's 208 electors is the reason she is considered the most electable by many experts in the party as well as the voters per the polls.

@DCVoter: Always good to see your posts, but the picture you paint is overly optimistic and is based on data that do not transfer to the general election. Either democratic candidate would have a good chance against McCain and the 'electability' argument only matters the day after the second tuesday in November.

i must say this, and i am proud to.....just a week and a half ago, i was on a flight from st louis to kc and had the priveledge of sitting next to claire mccaskillels mother. i had no idea who she was when i sat next to her. i just saw an elderly lady who seemed alert and with it. we started talking, and she was talking to the gentlemen who was also sitting with us....and i will admit....and admire....what a wonderful lady to have kept company with on a one hour flight. even tho she expressed her opinion for obama, and i for hillary, when i got off the plane before her, and i had to bend down in front of her to get my carry on as i sat near the bulk head of the plane, i smiled at her, and she winked at me. what a lady of class and grandeure. yes, i am a hillary supporter, but i do respect ms mccaskill for showing such class and dignity toward me, even tho we support opposing candidates...but the candidate we support are playing on the same team.......think about it!

hey bud....thanks for the post. yes we agree to disagree....but from one dog lover to another, from one father's war hero to another, from one democrat to another.....we need to stand united. we need to put hate in it's place....it has NO PLACE for the human race.....god bless all of us.

MIguy - good to see yours also. Electability is an argument that is viable because it is the party's position that they support either candidate but they must select the most electable for a chance to win. As you correctly stated before - nominees are selected not elected under the current process. Whether you or I like it or not, the SD's will decide based on that electability. Currently, there are only a handful of superdelegates who have publicly committed to casting their vote for the candidate with the most pledged delegates.

Of course Clinton will help Obama. She is a democrat.

I will vote for Mc Cain, and if he cant make his case to me, then I will write hillarys name on the ballot.

I will not vote for Obama out of pure concience. He is a fine man, but ran before he was ready and has too many dubious relationships that are too radical left.

Once he gets some experience in the senate, and ditches his left wing philosophy and moves to the center, he will surely win the presidency.

We clinton supporters will be Obama supporters surely one day. But he isnt ready and its not responsible to elect him.

Funny, even my grandpa says that the media, governments and pundints are the only ones who haven't realized that the bottom line in america has shifted. The media keeps putting left against right, and they don't even understand where the fulcrum is.

It is an exciting and very frustrating time to attempt to challenge news and politics. The rules have changed, so have the guidelines, as well as beliefs.

Right, liberal, left, conservative- ALL HOLD NEW meaning this day in age, and majority of us are guilty of letting the old asses and media control the meaning of them all.

Shame on all of us.

MIguy, i don't pay attention to the polls either.....too many of them, and too confusing. what a waste of time. you could bounce from one news channel to another, and find vast differences in 'poll's.... let's just find out the real deal on tues.