Clinton speaks the truth. Obama cannot win Alaska, Idaho, Utah, Kansas, Nebraska and other states.

Isnt this what she told West Virginia. It's over Hillary time to move on.

Every piece of mail from the DNC is returned by me with a note saying go to shell! I am now an independent.
Every donation they ask for I refer them to OBAMA, where has all their money gone, to him.
I do not support him, I will not fund any Dem except Hillary.
The DNC has lost many members and we will never, ever vote for OBAMA, NEVER!

Hillary will win big in Kentucky and be competitive in Oregon. Again, Oregon is prime Dem territory, while Kentucky is a pivotal swing state that Dems need to take. Hillary is running strong in electoral vote and popular vote. Dems should carefully weigh all this data.

HP ... I support Hillary too not only because I think she will be a better president... but everybody (especially the press) is shoving this flawed candidate down our throats and I believe its a big mistake... not only for our country but for our party . ... As a lifelong democrat I will never vote for him

Hillary Who???

Awesome, Nick!!!!

Great argument! It's the "press" that caused all those people to vote for Obama. It's the "press" that make Hillary run the worst run campaign since Napoleon invaded Russia. It's the fault of the "press" that Obama ran a clean campaign and has an insurmountable delegate lead.

Ohhhh, just OUTSTANDING stuff. You guys running out of straws to grasp at yet? Reality seeping into those Clinton Kool Aid addled minds yet?

Time for Hillary to stop throwing stones. She can still have a good career in the senate as long as she doesn't shoot herself in the foot or talk about sniper-fire again. Obama 2008!

$4-5 dollar gas and come November the heating oil bills start to ramp up. The public is mad and getting madder and you can bet come November they're going to take it out on the party in power - at least perceived power - and that's the Republican White House. The Republicans are finished except for the tire tracks on John McCain's back when the dust settles.

In one of the early debates Hillary made the point about wanting to be in charge of a great beauracracy - I actually thought it was one of the more truthful moments she's served up. I predict Obama will grant her wish and make her Secretary of something like Health and Human Services where she can lord it over "Her Own Private Venezuela". I think she'll be happy...

(still laughing)

NCdem.... I'm a Philly dem and somethings are more important than patisan politics we vote for a person not an Ideology or perty Obam is green, and a socailist both are bad for a working person with 4 kids ... win or lose he'll never get my vote

quitters are losers and losers are quitters! Statistics show that most men will quit before a woman. Women are more likely to stay loyal and continue to fight...it's in our genes...more men will give in and quit.

She's not a quitter-that's the point!

Oh The Obama stepdord children are at it again .... take an opposing point of view and you are called names....Are there any mature Obama voters that understand that dsicourse is the way our syatem works... or just a bunch of wet behind the ears children

I'm not clear on why Hillary thinks New York or California voters would vote like West Virginia voters did in the GE if Barack is the candidate.

It seems more like it's a politician carefully cherry picking the information and presenting partial information in a light which casts her candidacy as superior.

I'm tired of having my intelligence insulted, I wish this was all over. It's been brought home to me that the democratic party voter tent includes some people I'm tired of accepting.

To the older WV voter who said she would never vote for a black man and the older women's rights voters who attack female Obama supporters as misogynists and traitors - we need to move on from these fear/emotion driven ideas and do what is best for the nation.

hey Texas voter... no the press can't get everybody... just enough to put him over the top... and I never said that Hillary ran a great campaign... Obama may very well win the nomination but he definatley is not the best candidate to win in November... if you look at history at -least the last 40 years ... democrats like to elect duds... but in the general everybody votes..

BHO will lose in November at a time that no other dems could even possibly lose. He is a phony hypocrite, now that he is cry baby that the GOP cannot criticize his wife. Then, hide the mouth piece behind closed doors if you do not want to expose your true colors.

BHO has framed everything that is remotely linked to the HRC campaign as racist. Now he is crying fault of the GOP for criticizing her wife, who goes around and talks about nonsense (actually their true beliefs).

In reality, Obama is definitely the more honest and credible candidate.

That would be truth, to say the least.

Sometimes ignorance of the true facts gets the best of me.

Instead of voting based on my critical thinking skills, I usually vote based on perception.

Voters like myself and others are the true causes of the current leadership of our country.

WE JUST DON'T CRITICALLY THINK THINGS OUT!

NCDem, you need to face reality. In a week or so Hillary will ask all her supporters to back Obama for the good of the country. We can not have a bush-3 term from mc-more-war. Obama is the best person to lead this nation forward. Noone thought he had a chance in the beginning. He has funded his campaign thru ordinary citizens which I think is Fantastic. People realize that he is sincere, hinest, and hard-working. He will bring about real change and will destroy mc-more-war in the fall. Obama 2008!

Arggggggggggggggggggggggghhh!!!!

Why is this happening to me!!!!

Nat Turner What is your trip? You supposedly are supporting a candidate who's about hope, unity and change and yet you write that offensive and classist junk? You're a hypocrite and I have no idea why you would possibly vote for someone who's message is so removed from yourself. Obama needs to clean his own house before he gets to the White House.

John,
I suspected as much. There is BIG dirt to come out on Obama and that's why Hillary is sticking around. It's just the timing that not sure. It probably won't come out until after the convention when the DNC will look like idiots for nominating this LOSER. But I guess they're just really good at picking LOSERS - Kerry, Gore, Dukakis, McGovern, Carter, Mondale, ...OOOH the list goes on. Seems to me the only winner they had in YEARS was a CLINTON.
GO HILLARY!!

hey Texas Voter... Bill Clinton was the bright spot there... you seem to ignore the other duds... Hey i lived through those losses and as a democrat I know why they lost .... something democrats like you still haven't figured out ....the real world

I know deep down inside that Obama will be the next President of the United States.

I just can't fathom the idea of having a breath of fresh air in politics after being in the dungeon of mental apathy.

I promise to get better.

I truly apologize for my ignorant posts about Obama and the next POTUS.

I understand that there is a wave of hope that rhetoric and whining will and cannot stop.

YES I CAN TOO!

The larger crowds BHO draws, the greater loss he will maintain.

Texas voter... I'm trying to figure out what you are arguing... if you read my post I never contend Hillary will win... in fact I suggest just the opposite... I just think that Obama is a weaker candidate in November... as democrats we have a habit of doing that

Texas Voter,
How come you didn't mention the latest Gallup Poll that has show Clinton CONSISTENTLY ahead of McCain (albeit by just 3 to 5 points)for over a week, while little Obama has been lagging behind and is struggling to even keep even? He CAN'T and WON'T win the GE!!!

NCdem...how do you figure OB has stolen anything? He camein as the underdog and HRC has just as much opportunity to win those states as Obama...My God...please...would you Hillary get with the program.It's over...

NCDEM IS A REPUBLICAN
We'll see who's dilusional come August. For obvious reasons her campaign can't be the one to leak it.

Obama rigged the election? Are you mad Clinton supporters. Go see a doctor.

but it is done blanche... it is.

Nick,
You sound like one of those limbaugh-listeners that was hoping Hillary would win the nod because the GOP thinks they have a chance against her. They are scared to death to go against Obama. He had a crowd of 80,000 at a rally in Oregon the other day.. Can you imagine mc-more-war trying to get that kind of enthusiasm? Look for a landslide against mc-more-war in the fall. Obama 2008!!

Talk about petty....yezzzz...you HRC supoporter need to get with the program. No matter who wins we need to defat McCain!!!! My God....You are all just as vindictive and egotisical as HRC...If Hillary get s the nod, which I doubt, I will take a deep breath and vote HRC....NEVER MCCAIN....

AWAKE...please go back to your GOP site and leave us alone. You are fooling no one. Typing in CPAS doens't make your point any better.

No Democrat would vote for McCain over Obama. To suggest so is absurd and ignorant of the turht that HRC and BHO have basically the same policies.

My nominee is Barack Obama.

Clinton and all the 'single cause' haters can play all they want - we march on.

Obama is only bad to the GOP operative and bitter sore loser Clinton supporters.

If you had anything bad to say, in truthm, you would say it. All that we see is here is more of the same rhetoric bigotry.

You have nothing ot offer but your opinion, and judging by the opinion of the rest of the great nation, they love and trust Obama more than McCain or Hillary.

I'm sorry that you are bitter because you old school politics don;t work anymore. Too bad for you.

State by state means nothing. total votes, total delegates, mena EVERYTHING.

Stop trying to change the rules AGAIN...Hillary...again? please...not again? You can't keep changing the rules, this isn't the Republicna party, we play by Dem rules....the same rules that you had NO PROBLEM following when your husband was elected.

AWAKE....My God, wake up!!! If the case was in reverse Hillary would be LOVING the caucases...Yezzz...She has been a part of this process for 30 years. Her problem was underestimating the caucases. She should have studied them and been ready to participate...HRC you loose...

Hey Texas Voter...if you are suggesting the Sd will or should overturn the popular vote and the delgate count, I have a gridge for sale you should buy some of. $100 a brick.

Lots of people on this post sound patriotic...if you really are...how can you think about putting the Clintons back in the White House?

They made a mockery of the Presdency.

Hillary is making a mockery of the Domocratic National Party by saying that 'they can't count'! Hillary is going her own way and will take the whole thing to court if she has to!!

Maybe it will be in the same LA court where Judge Munoz will start hearing testimony in the Clintons camapaign fraud trial due to start soon!!!!

Yavo - the popular count typically does not include caucus states. Of course, since Hillary wants every vote to be represented, she would want the causus states voters to be included. Even though they favor Obama, Hillary could possibly want to disenfranchise caucus voters? Could she?

BHO has stolen (or more precisely, is stealing) the nomination because he has free advertising 24 hrs continuously on every day in all cable networks (perhaps, except fox - what the hell do we know, fair and balanced) by talking heads who are immediately tingled between their legs when they hear BHO speaks.

This is how unfair these dems primaries have been.

Wait until the Rep scrutinize him, and he will be exposed just as he does not want they expose his wife while she exposes herself every time she opens her mouth.

marty...I find that you have an empty head...if you vote McCain...What will you tell our future generation( your children and grandchildren) when they asked how we got in this mess....when they are still fighting in Iraq?

COME on Kentucky....make your voices heard! I did hear that Obama decided not to declare to avoid that elitist and arrogant look. Too late that America already heard the plans and think that anyway. NEITHER candidate can make the magic number (with or without FL/MI). Those superdelegates who are being sweet talked are the ones deciding our nominee....they SHOULD consider the BIG states AND the swing states. Voters will ONLY be happy with a DREAM ticket.

Obama is ridiculously inexperienced, dishonest, arrogant, hypocrite. If DNC is insane enough to nominate Obama, we're looking at a McCain landslide. That's not revenge, but a sane thing to do. Vote McCain anytime.

By the way, what happened to the will of the people, not overturning the popular vote, etc. Does it apply only when it suits Obama? Hillary won WV by landslide, and sen Byrd is endorsing Obama? Is he thinking he could wash away his racist past beofre dying by doing this? Obomination is all about symbolism, and this proves it again.

First Choice Hillary. Second choice McCain. OBAMA NEVER. We have the numbers, electoral college strength to prevail in November.

INFORM...I have never seen so many petty people as the HRC supporter. When HRC won West Virginia they were all over the blogs saying it was OVER, she won, but what they didn't realize was that there were not many delegates there. Plus now that she is presumed to not win many of the rest you are all getting NASTY and suggesting Obama has stolen it...GET REAL...

Obama supporters, I hate to break it to you but a simple majority of pledged delegates does not secure the nomination.
And for those of you who say Clinton has run a lousy campaign, what does it say about your guy that he can't put away a lousy campaigner when he's so much better at it in your opinion?

"What will you tell our future generation( your children and grandchildren) when they asked how we got in this mess....when they are still fighting in Iraq?"
Yes if McCain is elected for 4 years he will ensure that we stay in Iraq for the next 100 years. He's working on the paperwork as we speak.

Hang in there Hillary!!! We may be quieter than the 75,000 Obama campaign workers at the Portland rally, but we are just as strong. Our strength is shown during discussions on the soccer field, at the grocery store or even in church. We understand what has happened and how the good old boy network has tried to manipulate this election,but your determination and the refusal to quietly go away has earned you the respect and votes of many. We will make our opinion heard loud and clear in November.

long term...dishonest, arrogant, hypocrite. Sounds like Hillary...

what Hillary and her supporters have yet to realize is that Obama has redefined the elctoral map and will win the presidency.
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You mean in November Obama is going to have landslide victories in Idaho, Wyoming, and Monatana. LOL! Obamabots are completely delusional. All McCain has to do is to put a conservative like Huckabee on the ticket. Obama wouldn't take a single red state. Florida is going McCain, Obama is very weak in OH, and PA against McCain. Sure Loser= Obama.

      "This is nowhere near over."

Yeah, it is.  Not only is it over, it's been over since Ohio/Texas.  And Clinton knows it, and she's known it since Ohio/Texas.  She's been running for 2012 ever since those results came in, and she's still running for an opening in 2012, which means she'll keep the internecine fight going until at least the Denver convention.  "Let the healing not begin."

Just because Democrats in some states think she is the better candidate does not mean they think Barack is a bad candidate.

I highly doubt states like New York, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and California, who voted for Clinton in the primaries, will go Republican in the fall.

Besides, isn't Barack attracting Republicans and Independents? I haven't seen Hillary doing that lately.

The reason why this has gone on so long is because they both are excellent candidates and, for the first time in a long time, America is confused by their ability and not their incompentency.

Reality 08...are you suggesting because Obama is a man he has had a free ride? If so you are VERY wrong. Just like a woman, the black man and woman have had to work twice as hard to get where they are. And are still fighting prejudgeous.

Obama was suppose to make his victory speech tomorrow in Iowa. I now hear otherwise. Why is he canceling the victory speech?

Yavo Lem

someone needs to inform you that primaries don't matter unless the margins are ginormous...

your posting is that of someone who doesn't understand math saying 2+2=4 so the earth is round.

Obama has the margins in states that matter...that we can overtake...so go look at your map again...with the numbers as they stand it is not a question of who will win for dems...but who will bring in more states for the future.

that is overwhelmingly Obama.

I think it is pretty well agreed that Obama needs the Clinton supporters in order to win the general election.
Why are Obama supporters treating Clinton supporters so rudely? You are certainly not helping him by trashing Hillary and her supporters.

I would vote for Hillary, but am not sure if I would vote for Obama. I still do not hear much more than rhetoric from him, very little in the way of plans but lots of "change" rhetoric. What is he going to change, how is he going to change them, how will he work inside the system that he want's to change? So far I am not convinced and your slams at Clinton are not helping.

There are many of us that doubt Obama's chance of being elected in Nov.

The Republican attack machine is licking its chops folks so don't turn off too many of us Clinton supporters or we may be saying..."told you so"

Hillary is right!!! Obama is a weaker candidate. What really screws up Hillary is the stupid democratic delegate system!!! The undemocratic caucuses should be canceled because not everyone can participate and such contests don't exist in the general election! So, a nominee who's chosen largely by victories in those caucuses states cannot necessarily win!!! Please use popular votes rather than delegates to judge a candidate!

Hillary's a way stronger candidate than Obama. Obama supporters, please be aware that it was a game played by the republicans to elect Obama so that they can crush Obama in the fall and win the white house.

Yavo Lem,

This is a serious question. You keep including MI and FL in your math, what is HRC going to do when the DCCC denies her plea to seat the delegates as voted? The DCCC has hinted, strongly, that they would not be buying this agrument. If she is depending on MI and FL to claim the nomination and is denied, then what?

Thank you in advance for replying.

This is all crazy, people have gone mad over this and it is pretty pathetic. We are fighting amongst ourselves like a bunch children. Clinton is running this campaign like she is running in November with no regards to the damage she is causing to the paty. Just looking at all the comments and the immaturity of all thi bickering obama this clinton that, what the hell, this is sickening. Clinton is more than welcome to run for as long as she wants, hell even when she loses she can run in November for all i care. But there is no realistic way for her to win the nomination. Im sorry to burst anyones bubble but lets be real hear, theres no shame in bowing out but Clinton supportes are really make it hard for themselves because they are the ones that are going to be feeling pretty stupid for all the negativity they are showing and claiming we will see when she wins. There is no way period. How many states has she won? Come on do you people really thing the convetion is going to go against the popular vote, he has wone more states, more delegates, popular vote, super delegates. Sorry to burst anyones bubble but hope canonly get you so far, then reality kicks in, Obama is going to be the nominee, and it is nuts for clinton supporters to try and bully obama in having her or one of her supporters for vp, Grow up!

Lem I like seeing the numbers to bad they hate seeing them Hillary is still very much in this race and still may win it no matter what the media lies are.

I was part of the more than 75,000 people who came to support Senator Obama on the banks of the Willamette River in Portland, Oregon yesterday. I can tell you that I have never been in a crowd where solidarity, friendship, and unity of vision has so obviously been evident among people from every walk of life. It was simply astounding and wonderful.

All the haters and dividers who try to trash this good and decent man are falling into the same old trap that corporate interests have used to divide and conquer the American people for the last eight years.

Senator Obama will crush the Republican attack machine this fall, because he is right on all the issues. They might attack him as a human being, but we will not be fooled this time.

John McCain promises to stack the Supreme Court with anti Roe versus Wade neanderthals, to continue a failed intervention in a civil war in Iraq, to ignore 47 million people who have no health insurance, and to continue Bush economics.

This is no contest, folks. Wake up before it's too late.

Time for a change that we can believe in.

I don't get all the hateful posts. For the Hillary folks, did you see the crowd that showed up in Oregon to hear Obama, no way to spin that kind of support. Hillary couldn't draw that many to a rally if she was passing out $5.00 bills. On the other hand to Obama folks, Hillary does draw support from the old Rust belt states and Obama will be in a real fight to win those in November. If the sides keep fighting McCain will be the next president and that would be a real shame.

IF Hillary loses this nom, then most of her supporters will vote McCain. Most of them will also leave the Democrat Party. When you Obama Supporters say that Obama will win over McCain, I hope you put this fact into your equation. You really shouldn't count your chickens before they hatch. lol.

A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08

(It ain't over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

Who is paying these super d's to line up behind BO? Just saw one from WVA where Hillary won in a landslide go to BO again? What is going on here and who is manipulating this?

al last time I checked no one asked you.She is not doing damage she has every right to stay in this until it is over and super del are not included in the count yet so he does nt have evough at the end of this primary he will not have enough.

It's OVER... Now could you PLEASE focus on beating John McCain!!!

Thank you, Yavo Lem - I read and appreciate all of your posts.

A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08

(It ain't over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

No one likes a sore loser and Hillary Clinton is increasing looking like one with each passing day. Senator Obama and the DNC have gone out their way to be nice to Senator Clinton - to give her space - but the time is fast approaching when she will be forced to withdraw for the good of the Party.

The democratic party is already fractured beyond repair. You have those that are to the far left and those that are more towards the center. The voters towards the center have flatly rejected Obama.

Hillary, the race was over a long time ago. Face it, Obama won and he will be next president. It's truly unbeliavable how she keeps going with the purpose of spliting the party when the one thing we need is to come together as one and beat the republicans. STEP ASIDE WOMAN! i wish someone could make her understand that it is done. This hypocrital candidate has shown no ethics throughout the campaign that is the one of the main reason she lost.

@OBAMA SUPPORTER - Sorry, but you are very much mistaken. This process has disenfranchised 1/2 of this party. Most of us are leaving it since it no longer represents our values and there is no way we can vote Obama. The anger at the DNC is real and it is not felt by just a few people. You can take it to the bank.

A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08

(It ain't over until the lady in the pantsuit says so!)

Hillary supporters. You say Obama needs you to win but you seem to forget that Hillary would need Obama supporters to win. This is a Mexican standoff (old western slang for when two people have their guns aimed at each other. Both sides want the other side to put the gun down first). If you are voting on issues, Obama and Hillary are very close. It doesn't matter which one gets the nomination, either of them are closer than McCain is. If you are voting emotionally, then by definition rational arguments will not affect your opinion (and therefore your vote).

No Democrat has won the White House without winning West Virginia since 1916; an astounding 35% of Clinton supporters in that state say they will vote for McCain.

Presidential elections come down to contests in a small number of swing states (PA, OH, FL). Which states can Obama win that Kerry lost? Apparently not Ohio or Florida, Clinton can win those two states.

Hey Texas Voter... your blinded by your support for Obama and defensive about anyone that challenges his candidacy

Your Words..."OK, I didn't get that since you said the Press was the only reason Obama was ahead. Since that was the basis for your entire argument, you understand my confusion."

Check the facts... I never said that the press was the ONLY reason Obama was ahead... I said they influence enough morons and have their own support Obama agenda that will give him enough votes in a very close democrat race... I hope that that is clear enough so that all you "educated" Obama supporters can clearly understand... tired of my words being interpreted to fit your agenda

Clinton's descriptive and view of the primary process is spot on. Obama and his supporters should have no problem with waiting for this to run its course if they are so confident in his nomination. Allowing all states to be heard shows the Democrats believe in hearing the will of the people. What is coming to the forefront though is that Obama would not be where he is except for the caucus. His delegate lead would be less than ten, hardly a mandate for his nomination. . For the first time every state matters and Obama wants to silence their voices. Good for Clinton for staying in and giving them the opportunity to help decide what is best for this country.

75,000 crowd in Oregon is the reason Obama should become president? One could make the exact opposite argument.

The country is facing serious problems; MEANWHILE Obamamania shows are like rock concerts. Very shallow, emotionalism, and symbolism. Supposedly this man with an exotic background, no experience in anything, talks b.s, completely hides his shady past (NOTHING THERE TO SUPPORT THE BOGUS CLAIM OF BEING UNITER), and you chant and faint..Is this American Idol contest?? Rest of the population should get impressed by this show and vote for your messiah?

And the person who says Hilalry supporters have to vote Obama to meet their "needs". One of their needs is wanting not to elect an arrogant elitist.

"What is coming to the forefront though is that Obama would not be where he is except for the caucus"

That is like saying the other team is only ahead because of lay-ups. If it wasn't for lay-ups, we would only be behind by a little.

In spite of all the hoopala, press pandering, and large, fanatical crowds, Obama will NOT win in November. Too much of the wrong baggage and bad attitude. All this hype of building him up as so-o-o intelligent, fair minded, etc. is just more audacity of hope because, you all know he isn't any of those things. He sure slung a lot of mud at Bill, Hillary's spouse, but, now, don't pick on Michelle. What lopsided rot !! He is turning out to be such a phony, and unelectable.

Dallas Voter: You certainly have not been given any permission to speak for Texans in my area of San Antonio so limit your inclusivity. Many of my Hispanic and Black female co-workers are outraged that Hillary thinks the only hard working Americans are White! She said it. I am a white 67 year old still working full-time and her remark disgusted me. She is all Clinton name-a hanger-on to her husband's recognition. What has she accomplished without it? I want a female President too who has made her mark all on her lonesome to really represent women. aYavo Lem: You must be close friends with McAuliffe to have insider information. I will watch for your 'revelation' to check the veracity of your comment. Suggest you follow the Paul vs Clinton trial as well and already in the deposition stage in a California Court. Media cannot ignore it forever so be careful about mud slinging.

The Clinton supporters are getting shrill. It will not be pretty when you all have to come out of the rabbit hole back to reality. No matter how much spin you put on it or how much you will it not to happen, Hillary will lose her quest to be the nominee. This is just fact, not talking down or up or sideways. It is also not sexist misogynistic or whatever. The majority of voters have spoken and the majority of delegates have spoken. You can spin it but you can't change it. I am looking forward to when reality sets in. It has to soon and then once you have seen the light, we can conquer the Presidency together. As am aside all the talk about the history of who won which states were in the election not in the primary. And history is not place to look for the answers in this election campaign because it is and will make history as to how it unfolds.....

The funny part is that while the democrates agrue with each other McCain is laughing all the way to the white house. MG

carla...Obama is the one that needs to step aside. Hillary is the better candidate here. Obama is saying he doesn't want anybody to say anything against his wife in the GE. That is so Hillarious. Hillary has had plenty said about her husband in this Primary by the media, Obama and his supporters. Who does h