Good Post, Raleigh Voter .

Florida and Michigan are settled already. The primaries don't count. Hillary Clinton agreed to it months ago. Now she's decided she needs those votes, but that doesn't change a thing. The issue is settled.

There is no doubt in my mind that Florida should count. The argument that some voters stayed home just does not factor in.

Michigan is trickier. There could have been a revote there but due to politicians being politicians, they disenfranchised the voters not once, but twice! If I were a voter from that state, I would be making sure that we elect out the old and in with the new. How dumb can politicians be in that state?

I agree, Mary Ruth. Obama did miss a HUGE chance to speak up for Michigan and Florida. I have a feeling this will come back to haunt him. Sounds like we are heading for another Bush/Gore election, but this time, within the Democratic Party. Because of the DNC, who is blaming the candidates, mainly Hillary, for tearing up the party, it's actually the DNC along with Dean and Pelosi (idiot) that is destroying the party! Where are the voters rights anymore? It's like the American public doesn't even count anymore!

Fl and Mi will be seated, but at the convention when wee will all know who the nominee is. Seating them would have no impact to the result. If there is any hint that they will be seated before Denver, and that might impact the result we have now, the Obama's campaign wouldn't agree with the deal. Anyway you don't reward someone who knows the rules and breaks it. I am sure that knows it as well. FL & MI knew the rules, they knew the sanctions ahead and decided anyway to violate them. They should be punish according to the rules.

Really- Gore can't stand the Clintons- seriously. He will endorse Obama only if and when he has to- to keep Hillary out of power. At one time Gore and Bill Clinton were not on speaking terms- that bad. He was deeply hurt and blames the Clintons for the low ethics and scandal ridden tenure in the White House, and he blames the Clintons for making the difference (a negative one) in his own presidential election in 2000. If the Clintons hadn't ruined it for Gore, he would have been president, and we would never have gone to war, a war that Hillary went on to authorize. Blame Bush for the war, but also blame the Clintons for keeping Gore out and then enabling the war effort- rest assured that Gore does.

Sorry skeptic...you are wrong. Dean even said that the delegates will be seated somehow so this is hardly "settled". No matter what one believes as far as the rules go and so and so agreed to it, the fact remains that the votes will count....somehow.

I'm an independent voter.
I voted for republicans and democrats
in previous elections.
This time i'm for Hillary because we
had 8 peaceful and economic prosperous years.
If she loses the nomination i will
vote for McCain.

How did the Clinton's "ruin" Gore's chance at the Presidency? It was Gore's campaign that did not want Clinton to participate. Say what you want about Clinton's ethics, the people still love him. He could have brought a lot of moderates in to vote for Gore, not to mention Gore's looking like a stiff elite did not help him either.

He's absolutely sure that the bad American people are destroying the planet but demures that the superdelegates "probably . . . should be examined"? He's been a global warming guru for 8 years but a dem pol all his life.

He really is a one trick pony isn't he...

Enough of the "rules are rules" nonsense. This same thing happened years ago and the delegates were seated. If the rules were not meant to be broken then WHY did they do that?

If the rules were not meant to be broken then WHY did Dean say that they would be seated?

Raleigh Voter: I agree with you, but can you elaborate why Florida should count? It seems to me that the DNC has really "muddied" these waters.

I think not only should the delegates be seated, but there should have been a re-vote in Florida and Michigan. It's not the peoples fault they have stupid politicians in place. I hate it that people get on these posts and are glad that these two states are not counted...thats ludicrous! These voters have every right to be counted just as you and me!

Please keep in mind that votes in a parties primaries are merely a politcal club (or party) deciding who their leader (candidate is). So, the club (DNC) makes the rules and the club abides by those rules, not the voting laws of the United States Government
thanks

Fl is different than MI. Names were on the ballot. The campaigning issue should not matter. The people that wanted to be heard went to vote. I have heard it all.

I have also heard that other states moved their voting dates up, also against the DNC rules but that those votes counted. I looked this up and found articles on it and it appears to be true. Still need to research it more because it JUST cannot be right or else it would have made bigger news.

It is called a compromise. It called being a good sport on Obama's part to even consider seating FL and MI. They will be seated in a manner that does not disadvantage any candidate - 50/50.

LOL Gillis...that is funny.

Do not tell me about breaking rules though, the DNC makes the rules and breaks them! What is up with that??

It is easy to understand where Clinton is coming from...and the states that voted to move up their primaries. The DNC has a history of letting the rule-breakers slide by.

And come on, to have a little fun you need to break the rules sometimes :-)

Raleigh Voter

I like your last post better. Please do the research.

If Obama steals the nomination without Florida and Michigan coounted, then i believe the DNC should be labelled Black People's party or rather a racist party or a party that have no regard for women.

It will not be difficult to vote for Hillary in the election. She has the support of the majority of Hispanics, Jews, Asians, 20% blacks, woman & the most reliable older than 65+. So why will it be difficult for her to win. If anything if will be difficult for Obama to win because he only has 80% of blacks & young voters. Hispanics tip two 2000 & 2004 for Bush because they are independents and the Republicans have fought for there vote. The only person that has fought for their votes has been Hillary for many years. If the Dem. Party forgets who they want, then they'll forget about them.