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Obama: 'George Bush and John McCain Have a Lot to Answer For'
May 16, 2008 12:49 PM
ABC News' Sunlen Miller, Bret Hovell and Ed O'Keefe Report: Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Barack Obama, D-Ill, sparred in separate speeches Friday, perhaps a foreshadowing of the tone of the general election race to come.
At the annual meeting of the National Rifle Association in Louisville, Ky., the presumptive Republican nominee hit hard at Obama, calling him reckless and saying that the American people have a right to question his leadership abilities.
Watch the VIDEO HERE.
"Senator Obama made some remarks I'd like to respond to. I welcome a debate about protecting America. No issue is more important," McCain said.
"Senator Obama claimed all I had to offer was the quote 'naïve and irresponsible' belief that tough talk would cause Iran to give up its nuclear program. He should have known better," McCain told the pro-gun rights crowd.
McCain went on to echo the tone of the Bush speech, which criticized Obama's remarks in a primary season debate that he would be willing to meet with world leadersr, including some with whom the US does not currently have diplomatic relations, like Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad.
"I have some news for Senator Obama," McCain began, "Talking, not even with soaring rhetoric, in unconditional meetings with the man who calls Israel a stinking corpse, and arms terrorists who kill Americans will not convince Iran to give up its nuclear program."
"It is reckless to suggest that unconditional meetings will advance our interests," McCain said, to a round of applause at the NRA conference. "You know it would be a wonderful thing if we lived in a world where we don't have enemies. But that's not the world we live in. And until senator Obama understands that reality, the American people have every reason to doubt whether he has the strength, judgment and determination to keep us safe."
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., fired back at President George W. Bush and presumptive Republican nominee Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., earlier Friday, after a dust-up over comments Bush made while speaking to the Israeli parliament Thursday.
"After almost eight years, I did not think I could be surprised by almost anything George Bush says," Obama told a crowd at a campaign event in Watertown, South Dakota, Friday, "He accused me and other Democrats of wanting to negotiate with terrorists and said we were appeasers no different than people who appeased the Nazis before World War II."
Watch Obama's remarks HERE
Speaking before the Knesset on the 60th anniversary of Israel's statehood, Bush said, "Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is –- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history."
Watch Bush's comments in Israel HERE
"That's exactly the kind of appalling attack that has divided our country," Obama said Friday, going on to criticize McCain for concurring with Bush.
The presumptive Republican nominee was questioned about President Bush's remarks and said, "Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along."
"It does bring up an issue I will be discussing with the American people," McCain said, "and that is why does Barack Obama, Senator Obama want to sit down with a state sponsor of terrorism?"
"What does he want to talk about with, with [Iranian President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad who said that Israel's a stinking corpse, who said that he wants to wipe Israel off the map, who’s sending the most explosive devices into Iraq, killing Americans?" he said. "The point is that peace through strength is the way we achieve peace in the world. That's the point. I will debate this issue with Senator Obama throughout this campaign."
Going farther, McCain said Thursday that Obama's willingness to sit down with the president of Iran shows "naiveté and inexperience and lack of judgment."
Watch McCain's attack on Obama HERE
Obama tied Bush and McCain together on Friday, in what is clearly becoming the opening salvo in the yet to be begun general election campaign.
"I want to be perfectly clear with George and John McCain," Obama said, "If George Bush and John McCain want to have a debate about protecting the United States of America, that is a debate I'm willing to have anytime, anywhere because that is a debate that I will win because George Bush and John McCain have a lot to answer for."
In a press conference following his town hall meeting in South Dakota, Obama continued on the offensive, insisting there is "no separation" between Bush and McCain and repeating the challenge that he would meet McCain "anywhere, anytime" for a debate on foreign policy.
Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., who continues to campaign hard in advance of Tuesday's primaries in Oregon and Kentucky, also criticized Bush on Thursday.
"On the face of it and especially in light of his failures in foreign policy, this is the kind of statement that has no place in any presidential address and certainly to use an important moment like the 60th anniversary celebration of Israel to make a political point seems terribly misplaced," said the New York Senator during an impromptu conference with reporters. "Unfortunately this is what we've come to expect from President Bush who has refused to change course in Iraq, neglected Afghanistan and failed to provide leadership on the range of important issues that face our country and the world."
It may be a smart political tactic for Obama to connect the President, who hit a historic low approval rating of 31% in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, and McCain.
Obama went on to call the statements by Bush and McCain "dishonest" and "dismissive", criticizing McCain for calling for civility during a speech Thursday morning before making the statement against Obama later that day.
"I'm running for president to change course," Obama said to the applause of the South Dakota crowd.
ABC News' White House troops point out that the President has made similar statements in the past and Bush did not specifically cite Obama by name, though he did reference Sen. William Borah's immortal reaction upon hearing that Hitler had invaded Poland and begun World War II, something he has not highlighted in the past.
"(The President) has said similar things before," a White House official told ABC News' Martha Raddatz. "But it is in reference to a number of people, think Carter, others who have engaged in this or suggested it."
White House spokesperson Dana Perino was asked if Bush's line was a slam against Obama and she insisted, "It is not."
"I understand that when you are running for office sometimes you think the world revolves around you. That is not always true and it is not true in this case," Perino added, though the White House is keenly aware of how such statements might play during a heated political season and has steadfastly avoided commenting on the 2008 race.
Late Thursday that notion seemed to be confirmed.
"Did we know this could be construed as being about Obama? Yes, of course," a White House source told ABC News. "But was this about just Obama? No, it was about Pelosi, Carter, Biden, Obama, etc. When the line went in the speech, we made sure that it was the same as everything (Bush) has said in the past. This was not about just Obama."
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Cali., did not take kindly to the remarks calling Bush's statement "beneath the dignity of the office of the president" in her weekly press conference on Capitol Hill.
Others including Sen. Joe Biden, D-Dela., had a more blunt response.
"This was a political hit. This was a hit. Not trying to make a point," Biden, who will be a guest on "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" this Sunday, said in a pugnacious counteroffensive against the president on behalf of Obama on Thursday.
Biden took Bush to task and said the president should "get a life".
ABC News' Ann Compton, Lindsey Ellerson, Jon Garcia, Martha Raddatz, and Z. Byron Wolf contributed to this report.
May 16, 2008 in Biden, Joe, Bush, George W., Hunter, Duncan, Kucinich, Dennis, Tancredo, Tom, Thompson, Fred, Veepstakes | Permalink | User Comments (1082)
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I'm glad Bush made reference to these kind of talks. Obama, Pelosi, Biden, Kerry, Kennedy are ALL in favor of sitting down with Iran to negoitiate. It does nothing but make America look weak. Hillary said it right that if Iran attacks Israel, we would annihilate them. Because of Obama's Muslim upbringing, this is why he concedes to have these talks. Now, he's trying to incorporate "God" into his campaign when America already knows he's a closet Muslim. This guy never stops, is very low. Get ready, Obama....you are in the BIG LEAGUE now, with the BIG BOYS! The GOP are going to have you and your American hating wife for lunch! I'm going to LOVE to see you, Mr. Obama, collaspse!
Posted by: david from texas | May 16, 2008 1:01:38 PM
"I'm running for president to change course," Obama said to the applause of the South Dakota crowd.
THE ONLY CHANGE THIS JERK HAS MADE IS TO CAUSE AMERICAN TO BE EVEN MORE DIVIDED RACIALLY. YEAH, I WANT THIS BIGOT AS THE PRESIDENT!
Posted by: Jack | May 16, 2008 1:04:29 PM
ahhh, finally we get to have some political discourse on issues. Ok, now it is resolved: Do we talk to terror states or not? I think we will break it down to two factions: Those that think it is safer and more correct to discourage any talks with leaders of terror states and those that think that engaging everyone regardless of their philosophy and/or actions. Let the debate begin!
Posted by: Phil | May 16, 2008 1:04:44 PM
George Bush seems to have forgotten his history again as he speaks about appeasement with German tanks running through Poland. In 1945 thousands of Poles who had been promised that they would be saved by the joint US British forces were slaughtered in full view of their alleged saviours on the other side of the river having held on for more than a month. Why? Appeasement of the Russians and the beginning of the cold war. Talk saves lives. Obama for the world.
Posted by: taralexamin scotland | May 16, 2008 1:05:06 PM
Obama did originally say that he would meet with any foreign leader, no preconditions. I noted it because it was a stark contrast to what Hillary and others were saying and it is one of the reasons I thought Obama was weak on foreign issues. Why is everyone protecting him so? Also, what right does he have to request a debate now. He isn't the candidate and he wouldn't debate Hillary lately. This is so unbelievable.
Posted by: Susan | May 16, 2008 1:05:30 PM
Barack Obama just said in a speech being broadcast on Fox News: “I have never said I would negotiate with terrorists.”
From his official campaign web site:
Diplomacy: Obama is the only major candidate who supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions. Now is the time to pressure Iran directly to change their troubling behavior.
It’s a simple, undeniable fact that Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism.
Posted by: wut | May 16, 2008 1:06:03 PM
If I recall properly, Obama said he would be willing to sit down with governments/terrorists and have conversations with them. It is the policy of the United States Government that we do not negotiate with terrorists. Why all of a sudden is Obama "offended?" I am personally offended by Obama. Remember to vote for Clinton even if you have to write her name on your ballot -- send Obama and his wife (the un-proud American) away.
Posted by: misty | May 16, 2008 1:06:13 PM
oBAMA DID SAY HE WANTED TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO THE TERRIORISTS. hOW CAN HE NOW TRY TO BACK DOWN ON THAT ONE--BECAUSE IT IS LIKE EVEYTHING ELSE HE DOES--WHEN IT DOES NOT SUIT HIS CAMPAIGN HE CHANGES HIS MIND--HE NEEDS TO REALIZE THIS STUFF HE SAYS IS IN WRITING--PEOPLE CAN REFER BACK TO WHAT HE HAS SAID BEFORE--HE COULD NOT FIGHT HIS WAY OUT OF A PAPBER BAG--HOWEVER HE IS A GOOD SPEECHMAKER--BUT HIS ACTIONS NEVER BACK UP HIS WORDS. IF HE IS ELECTED PRESIDENT --IT WILL BE THE SADDEST DAY IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
Posted by: SILVERLADY | May 16, 2008 1:07:48 PM
Obama = Chamberlain is an excellent analogy. Chamberlain met with Hitler, appeased him, gave up entire countries to him, and then bragged how he was a great negotiator of peace. Obama is on the same path, he does not know history, and is clearly doomed to repeat it.. unless the American people reject Obama's ignorance and inexperience.
Posted by: Bill | May 16, 2008 1:08:01 PM
David David David...Your big boys are going to be finding themselves in the Congressional holding area when the contempt subpeonas start coming out of the Judical committee...I cant wait to see your buddys' Bush, Rove and Cheney in handcuffs for committing banana republic type crimes...This is America NOT South America...If you like that sort of corrupt behavior then you might want to think about moving down there...before the dollar isnt worth anything there either.
Posted by: Beka13 | May 16, 2008 1:08:07 PM
He could not take his eyes off of the written statements...I mean how many sentences long was it?
He looked WEAK before, he looks even WEAKER now.
Bush's comment could well have been about Jimmy Carter or other past "appeasers". Of course this is all about Obama. Boy does he know how to play it up to the press and get as much of free media time as he can.
He is an opportunist, he lacks judgment, he appears weak and he is just a wild card when it comes to leading our country.
One thing that Hillary Clinton could never appear to be is weak.
Posted by: Raleigh Voter | May 16, 2008 1:08:15 PM
DAVID..
You are an idiot, and your comments clearly point that out.
your party is weak and crumbling because of ignorant people like yourself.
wake up
america wants change. no matter how hard you fight it.
Posted by: seme | May 16, 2008 1:09:02 PM
They remind me of the 3 stooges, but these guys are not funny and I am sick of being slapped around!
Posted by: HP Boston | May 16, 2008 1:09:16 PM
Obama and his hating American wife need to be deported to their land of origin
Posted by: Frank | May 16, 2008 1:09:19 PM
I absolutely fail to see why Obama and the Democrats are purposefully picking this fight. It continues to make them look weak and naive on foreign policy and handling ambitious dictators. How are we supposed to have confidence that Democrats will protect our national security if they are already amenable to kow towing to the likes of Iran. Talk is not necessarily appeasement but if you are not offended by the appeasement of dictators than you are far too immature to run foreign policy or national security.
Posted by: mPCT | May 16, 2008 1:09:36 PM
Obama has repeated several times he will talk to Iran who support terrorists...
Now he claimed he didn't mean it... Sounds familar from day one: he didn't mean what he has said, at all....
What a hypocrite!
Posted by: True Truth | May 16, 2008 1:10:45 PM
Bush: Well said. It's interesting, even though that Obama's name wasn't mentioned by Bush, that Obama is taking this personally. I guess he's upset that Bush compared his muslim family of Iran to Nazis.
This shows Obama's immaturity as a leader.
Posted by: BT | May 16, 2008 1:11:38 PM
David, lets say I don't like you for any reason at all and vice versa. Should we just schedule a time to meet up at the flag pole so I could kick you're ass? Or should we be wimps and talk face to face before going to the next step. Your worried about the country looking weak; we are weak thanks to Bush's pre emptive war strategy. God forbid we learn from his tragic Presidency and behave like a civalized nation and use our diplomatic strength first.
Posted by: David needs to use his brain | May 16, 2008 1:12:04 PM
EVERYTIME ANYTHING NEGATIVE IS SAID ABOUT OBAMA--HE GOES OFF THE DEEP END AND GETS EXTREMELY DEFENSIVE--I SURE DON'T WANT HIM ANSWERING THE RED PHONE AT 2AM IN THE MORNING---HE WOULD PROBABLY TALK IN HIS SLEEP AND SET OFF WORLD WAR III. PLEASE FOLKS, DO NOT PUT AMERICA IN JEOPARDY--ELECT ANYONE BUT THIS NUT.
Posted by: SIVERLADY | May 16, 2008 1:13:10 PM
How can a rookie senator with thin resume and questionable ties come this far? What does he mean by "tough" diplomacy? Diplomacy without strength can't be tough no matter what adjectives one uses to describe it. He also shamelessly equated himself to JFK and Reagan saying Reagan talked to the Soviets. Two flaws in that example: (1) Soviets were not mindless terrorists and didn't look forward to martyrdom; and (2) Reagan negotiated from a position of strength after unilaterally building up US muscle and then communicating to the Soviets they can't win!
Posted by: Unashamed_Independent | May 16, 2008 1:13:32 PM
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