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Obama Says General Election Starts After Tuesday's Results

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May 28, 2008 10:56 PM

ABC News' Sunlen Miller reports: Sen. Barack Obama has high hopes for the results of the last primary contests on Tuesday: He believes that will likely mark the start of the general election.

Asked aboard his plane returning to Chicago from Colorado if the general election will begin after Tuesday’s voting in South Dakota and Montana, Obama answered in one word: "Yes."

Obama said he believes at that point he will be the nominee. But with three primary contests left -- Puerto Rico on Sunday and Montana and South Dakota on Tuesday -- Obama is still couching his prognosis ever so slightly.

"You know, it’s technically not over until we have the number of delegates needed to secure the nomination," Obama said of the 2026 delegates needed. "Once we have that number, we will focus on the general election."

The Obama campaign has no doubt been running a general election campaign for the last few weeks: campaigning in general election states and singling out the presumptive Republican nominee Sen. John McCain more than his Democratic rival, Sen. Hillary Clinton -– a strategy that caused some to question the patience of a candidate that is still involved in a battle for the democratic nomination.

"We are only a few days away," Obama told reporters. "We have waited this long. We can wait a while longer."

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Let's face it, half the country supports Obama and half support Hillary. I will vote for whoever because I hate the republican policies.

Posted by: lisa | May 28, 2008 11:02:52 PM

Mr. Obama still needs to learn to zip up his pants after he goes potty. He wants to start the general election before the primary is over. With this kind of thoughtless risk taking he shows he is not ready for the Presidency.
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Obama and BitterGate, we shall not forget!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | May 28, 2008 11:12:06 PM

I'm not sure if Hillary is still a democrat.

Posted by: Dusty | May 28, 2008 11:15:55 PM

Hillary, the popular vote doesn't count. This is just more Hillary math again. And sorry but West Va and Kentucky will vote for McCain in the GE plus they are racists and that is why you won by such a large margin.
You thought this nomination was owed to you from the beginning, what arrogance. Sorry it's not working out the way you wanted.

Posted by: zz | May 28, 2008 11:20:24 PM

Dusty,
Take a look at the politics tab on ABC News. Apparently over 17 million Democrats disagree with you but YOU must be right. Fact is, the word is out that the DNC will be counting half of Florida and Michigan's delegates, which means that the popular vote now counts, and Hillary has had more people pull the lever for her than any other candidate in the history of the United States nominating elections. It's time for the remaining superdelegates to move forward in favor of Hillary Clinton.
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Only Hillary Clinton stood up for all the voters!
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Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | May 28, 2008 11:21:11 PM

The Soros-McClellan Connection (LGF)

Wed, May 28, 2008 at 7:28:40 pm PST

The hat tip for this post goes to LGF reader John Williams in Texas.

The company that published Scott McClellan’s new Bush-bashing book is Public Affairs Books, and their Editor at Large is a guy named Peter Osnos: About The Century Foundation.

The owner of Public Affairs Books is a company called Perseus Book Group. Here’s their ownership tree: Perseus Books Home.

The firm is owned by Perseus Funds Group, (holding company Perseus LLC) a capital management firm that grew from about $20 million in 1995 to over $2 billion now. Big infusions of cash seemed to help it grow exponentially and it closed funds almost as fast as it opened them. The board has tons of liberals from the Clinton and Carter Administrations with credentials that almost put Osnos’ to shame as far as far left causes go. Their website is here: PERSEUS - merchant bank and private equity fund management.

If you go to the New York Department of State web site and enter “Perseus” in the “Business Organization” search, you get this on page 2 of the results

Posted by: Henry | May 28, 2008 11:21:32 PM

Arlen Spector is threatening to sue the DNC for violating a persons most fundamental right. The right to have their one voice and vote heard.

Oh Yeah! He's going to bankrupt the DNC. Couldn't happen to a better bunch of party insiders. Throw the bums out! Take back our party.......

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | May 28, 2008 11:23:43 PM

*FLASH*
I just heard on FOX Hillary will drop out tomorrow.

Posted by: flash | May 28, 2008 11:26:46 PM

"Something Is Rotten in the State of Denmark." Could it be Soros? Soros backs Obama, not Hillary. Why?

Posted by: dilbert | May 28, 2008 11:26:52 PM

Barack mis-spoke......as usual. Delegates needed will be at a minimum 2210. More if FL and MI are fully reinstated. What a con man.

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | May 28, 2008 11:33:27 PM


The democratic party is a vry fragile.
It splits very easy.It's a group of
different people with different
backgrounds.
It's very hard to unite the party
this year.
Hillary's supporters WILL NOT vote
for Obama.
It's very easy for a democrat to vote
republican than the other way around.
So republicans will win AGAIN this
november regerdless how unpopular is
the president.

Posted by: Nicholas | May 28, 2008 11:34:24 PM

Hillary is the only candidate who can beat McCain in November.

Virtually every poll (Gallup Daily Tracking, Quinnipiac, Rasmussen) has her beating McCain in the key swing states: Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida. Obama, on the other hand, trails McCain.

By the end of the primary process, Hillary will have won more of the popular vote than any Democratic candidate in history, and she’s significantly a head of both McCain and Obama in electoral votes. In fact, in key swing states like Florida, Ohio, Michigan, Missouri, New Hampshire, West Virginia and Arkansas, she beats McCain handily in electoral votes. Obama does not. He trails McCain by 25 points in those states. If Obama is the nominee, he’ll lose in the G.E.

Hillary’s base of support includes Latino’s Older Americans, rural voters, and women, but it isn’t relegated just to these groups. Over 17 Million people have voted for Hillary in the primaries- young and old, highly educated and less educated, urban and rural, male and female. Her supporters will never give up, and they’ll never vote for Obama.

Posted by: Emily | May 28, 2008 11:35:21 PM

As goes Pennsylvania and Ohio so goes the nation. Why will the DNC put in the weaker candidate who cannot win in November?

Obama already put Paul Tewes in from Hildebrand and Tewes to orchestrated his win in the Iowa caucus. This was sheer strategy from day one to give Obama the nomination affirmative action candidate. Tewes is said to have taken over the day to day operations from Dean and that his days are numbered. This is Obama coup de tat. The Party taken from the people. Don't give one dime ever to the DNC or any Democrats who constituents voted overwhelmingly for Hillary and Obama got the pledge, i.e. Byrd in WV, etc.

Never never Hussein, if not Hillary, then vote McCain.

There will be no party loyalty only loyalty to candidates.

Posted by: Jessica | May 28, 2008 11:37:44 PM

FYI zz:

A recent Rasmussen General Election Match-Up poll for KENTUCKY shows:

Hillary +9 over McCain

McCain +25 over Obama.

So much for your theory that all "racist" states will vote McCain.

Posted by: SandyB | May 28, 2008 11:39:21 PM

Dilbert, I agree, it is very disturbing that Soros is backing Obama and not Hillary. Is there anything that can be done to find out more about why Soros is so behind Obama? What does Obama owe Soros and since Obama is so inexperienced who knows how big an influence Soros will have on Obama should he become President. Very Very disturbing. Just hope Hillary can beat the odds and win the nomination for the sake of the Nation.

Posted by: Sam | May 28, 2008 11:40:24 PM

Nicholas I am a Hillary supporter and I hope she wins the nomination. But if Obama should win I will vote for him. The republicans make me ill with this war. They deceived us. And McCain agrees with Bush on this. I just can't vote for another Bush. Voting for McCain means more war.

Posted by: elle | May 28, 2008 11:40:31 PM

This is a tactic to depress voter turnout in upcoming primaries.

I hope that he will lose all three contests. Then we will what happens.

Posted by: Joan | May 28, 2008 11:40:52 PM

So now it is up to Barack Obama when the General Election "officially" begins.

Will this man't ego never sleep???

Posted by: SandyB | May 28, 2008 11:45:55 PM

zz, there you go again, playing the race card. We, like Hillary and Bill, have spent our entire lives working for equality of the races. Stop taking those backward steps! In spite of your claim, the popular vote is the biggest determinant in the General Election. It determines the electoral votes of each state. Hillary has won the big states that can be expected to vote Democrat. Obama has won so-called "red" states, largely by caucuses which do not clearly reflect the will of the voters.

Does the DNC really want to lose this election?

Posted by: georgia | May 28, 2008 11:46:01 PM

Hillary is behind by 162 & almost half million popular votes.
There are very few Pledged delegates (around 70) left in the remaining three primaries.
None of the candidates is so weak to lose half million votes as a result of primaries in PR, MO & SD.
FL & MI votes, PD's and the supers will not be handed over to one candidate.
It will probably divided equally.

Posted by: Perf Lead | May 28, 2008 11:54:04 PM

georgia, I'm not playing the race card. If you don't think those states are racist then you're living in a dream world. And the popular vote doesn't matter, it's the delegates. I guess you're doing Hillary math.

Posted by: zz | May 28, 2008 11:54:15 PM

Hillary has put together a winning coalition,

Excellent post.
Thanks

Posted by: catleya | May 28, 2008 11:55:43 PM

I have been voting for 30 years and have never voted republican in a presidential election. Friends and family consider me extremely liberal. However, I love my country dearly and for the FIRST TIME in my life I am EXTREMELY WORRIED and CONCERNED. Most people in this election have turned it into a "first black or first woman issue" instead of asking the hard questions about who we really need to lead this country at such a troubled time. Unfortunately, I don’t think the ture “right person” is involved in this election. However, when I look at the voting records of all parties involved, Obama scares me to death! I have heard the Republicans saying for the past year, "this is the democrat's election to lose" and said yea, right, they wish! However, I now have a tendency to believe them. I thought the Democratic Party would be smarter than this. I have not heard anything solid and substantial come from Obama, and his record does not even come close to his words - lot of adage for the old saying "actions speaks louder than words". For all democrats out there, you had better believe the Repulicans will be hitting these discrepancies hot and heavy come fall. They will also be pointing out that Obama was raised Muslim and there is a real concern here that should be raised. The lack of value of human life and no respect for individual rights in the Muslim religion are very obvious to every true American. I know that even though I have never voted Republican in a Presidential election and thought I would never even consider voting republican, because of my love for this country and the "knowns and unknowns" of Obama, I cannot vote for him in the presidential election. This has nothing to do with "black or woman" but the security of this country and the welfare of my children. Our country is in such a fragile state currently, we cannot afford a risk such as Obama! Where there is smoke there is usually fire and we absolutely cannot afford a fire. I would encourage everyone to read the article "a Black Columist on O'Bama" by Ken Blackwell - Columnist for the New York Sun and really think this through and evaluate "What can I do for my Country"!

Posted by: elw | May 28, 2008 11:56:08 PM

I can see the point of counting Florida votes but how can anyone possibly say let's count Hillary's "win" in Michigan when Obama wasn't even on the ballot? How is that a win when your opponent isn't even in the contest? Come on people it's common sense.

Posted by: intexas | May 28, 2008 11:58:55 PM

I hate the republican policies too. Terrorism is down 40% and no attacks on US soil since 9/11. I blame it on Bush. It's a disgrace.

Posted by: Jo | May 29, 2008 12:00:13 AM

So answer this: how many of the pro-Hillary commentors on this string were asked to do so by the campaign, or were fed their information by the campaign?

Folks, I donated the max to Hillary and voted for her in my state's primary. But for those of you who are still pushing her, even when the only way she can win is if superdelegates vote contrary to the pledged delegates won in primaries and caucuses, I have two words: RALPH NADER.

Hillary can go back to the Senate and be the Ted Kennedy of her generation, or she can keep up this fight and become the Nader of 08.

Posted by: Jim | May 29, 2008 12:00:25 AM

Nader it is, then.

Posted by: SandyB | May 29, 2008 12:02:26 AM

I'm sick of all this pro-Hillary spam, it's a nuisance. Whoever moderates these comments should ban that garbage.

Posted by: Me | May 29, 2008 12:03:32 AM

i think all of you woman have gone off the deep end with hillary man she has really brainwashed you just like bush brained washed people with his fear tacticts cmon ladies snap outof it back to reality hillary could care less about you the only thing that woman cares about is being the first woman president well you all better wake up before you vote for mccain and 2 or 3 years from that realize you made a horrible mistake

Posted by: angie | May 29, 2008 12:04:29 AM

Chances are that the DNC will seat at least 50% of the Florida and Michigan delegates. Still, this process has been rigged from the beginning by the latte-left in concert with the DNC. They engineered the process to advantage Obama.

For the first time in my adult life, I'm not proud of being a Democrat.

Posted by: Emily | May 29, 2008 12:04:38 AM

Also, if you are a so called Democrat or don't agree with the Bush/McCain policies and don't vote for the Democratic nominee, no matter who they are, you are just a little whiny crybaby that doesn't want to play cause their person didn't win. You're gonna take your toys and go home. Might as well have some five year olds voting. You weren't a true Democrat anyway and obviously aren't sick of the GOP policies so you might as well vote Republican. Since McCain is such a better choice with all of his policies than the "other" Democrat that beat your candidate out for the nomination.

Posted by: intexas | May 29, 2008 12:04:46 AM

I wonder who is behind the scandal book affair by Scott Mc Clellan?
What drove him to write that book?

Posted by: catleya | May 29, 2008 12:04:58 AM

Me

you will put up with Hillary supporters like we try to put up with you Obama is the wrong candidate period for the GE and you know it... just go away!

Posted by: stanaim | May 29, 2008 12:04:59 AM

Yes Jo, Bush is a disgrace. Where have you been, your head in the sand. He has us in a war that we should have never been in and thousands have died. What do you have to say about that. Yeah, I blame it on Bush, Rove and Cheney. They should be impeached.

Posted by: lisa | May 29, 2008 12:05:12 AM

If Hillary can manage to trainwreck her own campaign so badly, squandering huge leads in the polls and also run her campaign into such huge debt, how on earth do you expect her to run America? Obama's campaign has been very efficient and effective, and this is why he would be a better president.

Posted by: John | May 29, 2008 12:06:20 AM

Lisa,

What do I have to say about that? I have to say terrorism is down 40% and no attacks on US soil since 9/11.

Gee, maybe everyone knows we mean what we say now. Maybe we aren't looking as "weak" as we use to.

Thanks for asking. Glad to fill you in on reality.

Posted by: Jo | May 29, 2008 12:06:58 AM

Who is Obama?

How dare he say that?

Why he wants to be president so eagerly?

Posted by: golfgirlusa | May 29, 2008 12:07:00 AM

All Hillary has been able to accomplish with her delusional chance at winning the nomination is stealing time, money, and effort away from supporting the obvious nominee, Obama!

She has become a thorn in the Democratic Party’s side!

Please, please, please go away Hillary!

Hillary, the Queen of Spin and a Legend in Her Own Mind!

http://klinrons.com

Posted by: Bob | May 29, 2008 12:07:39 AM

Joan, Elle, Sam, Sandyb, Jessica and Emily or maybe you're the same people. When i listen to the language that's being used, its no wonder Hillary is a "dead girl walking.'' You all are low class, racist, classless, moon-bats who like Hillary believe the world is entitled to u. Siting polls and threatening to vote for McCain is counterproductive. Lol...Who are u hurting? Not me, not his supporters or Mr. Obama. Your hurting yourselves. How is voting McCain in office for bush's third-term going to help you, your family and your lively-hood? Hillary supporters self loathing attitudes towards this entire primary process has been absolutely toxic. Do us mathematicans a favor and tell Hillary throw in the towel on June 4 and embrace Obama; and maybe, just maybe we will allow Hillary to be Obama's running-mate.

Possible Obama VP's

Obama/Webb
Obama/Sebelius
Obama/Richardson
Obana/Rendell
Obama/No-Clinton

Posted by: tom | May 29, 2008 12:07:43 AM

OBAMA AND DEM Party is the Only True Hope for The United States of America!

OBAMA! The Future President!!

Winner of the 33 states!!
Will be Winner of the GE Nov 2008!!

Hillary time to Support Obama after 6/3/08, or we will show you the door!!

OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!

Posted by: RC | May 29, 2008 12:07:51 AM

Why a vote for Obama may lead to more war and deaths, not less. The facts on the ground now in Iraq is that the surge has been successful and the US is winning the war in Iraq. That is why Obama's plan of pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory in Iraq is so idiotic. Al Qaeda is on the run in Iraq but if the USA retreats and turns Iraq over to them, Al Qaeda will have access to Iraq's large oil reserves and thus the means and opportunity to attack us and attack us hard. Our Middle Eastern allies will have no reason to trust our word and abandon us. Not to mention the boost a withdrawal from Iraq will give to Iran, Syria and Hamas. Think WWIII, If Obama is elected his defeatist policies will put us all at more risk of another 9/11 attack and even worse the blow up the middle east which will mean more will die, just like what happened in WWII when people thought Hitler could be appeased and were wrong, very wrong. Whats more, the killing fields of cambodia could be played out again in Iraq by Al Qaeda, Only this time the people murdered could be the very people that risked their lives to support the US. Question, if Obama wins,can you sleep well at night if you get what you want and this happens? I hope not.

P.S. If Obama had got his way and Saddam was still in power the West would be dealing with TWO major middle eastern powers on the brink or already in possession of nuclear weapons thumbing their nose at the US.

Posted by: Mary | May 29, 2008 12:09:17 AM

Lisa, I guess you'd rather us look weak (or as Osama would say "a paper tiger") in the eyes of the world and not do anything against Iraq although they violated all the conditions after we won the Gulf War. Maybe you'd like the terrorists around the world to know we don't back up what we threaten. That basically they can do anything they want and we'll just sit back and let them. Maybe you like that.

Me? Not so much.

Posted by: Jo | May 29, 2008 12:09:26 AM

Emily,

That's true.
His campaign personal said it on PBS, they want 50%-50%.
That's not fair.

I feel the same for the first time in my adult life I'm not proud of being a Democrat.

Posted by: catleya | May 29, 2008 12:10:11 AM

So you people would rather see McCain in there to continue Bush policies than Obama because of spite (even though most of their policies are pretty close)? Wow, good job. That will show us.

Posted by: intexas | May 29, 2008 12:10:33 AM

Mary, excellent post.

Maybe the Lisa's of the world will learn something. For once.

Posted by: Jo | May 29, 2008 12:10:33 AM

I want to say that Hillary says she will do anything to make sure a Democrat wins. Why won't you? The democrats must win; if not, your kids will be dying in more wars, your gas will be eight bucks, and America's economy and your families will collapse. Plain and simple

Please folks, be ADULTS; Obama OR Hillary 08

Posted by: Mark | May 29, 2008 12:11:32 AM

intexas, yes I'd like McCain to be president to continue Bush's policy of fighting terrorism, and that's a good thing because it's down 40%.

Maybe you'd rather have more terrorism. Maybe that's what you guys mean by change. Lol.

Posted by: Jo | May 29, 2008 12:12:17 AM

staniam, popular vote doesn't count no matter how you try and spin it. Vote McCain and the Bush policies, you are only hurting yourself and this country with the war that should have never happened. And now McCain is another Bush term.

Posted by: zz | May 29, 2008 12:12:25 AM

WAKE UP PEOPLE IN FL AND MI ASK YOUR SELF WHERE WAS HILLARY WHEN THIS BEGAN AND WE COULNDNT VOTE BECAUSE FL AND MI BROKE THE RULES WELL SHE WAS TO BUSY SIGNING AND AGREEING THAT FL AND MI WOULD NOT COUNT SHE WAS NOT IN FL RALLYING YOU PEOPLE UP TO FIGHT TO MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT CMON PEOPLE THIS LADY IS PATHETIC I COULD NOT SEE WHY ANYBODY WOULD WANT HER FOR PRESIDENT OH AND ANOTHER THING SHES NO DEMOCRAT SHES REPUBLCAN THATS WHY SHES DIVIDING THE PARTY SHE WANTS MCAIN TO WIN DEEP DOWN SHES REPUBLICAN SO GOOD MAYBE SHE SHOULD SUPPORT MCCAIN SINCE THEY WERE BOTH FOR THE WAR IN IRAQ ANDTHE TWO OF THEM CAN BURN IN H LL TOGETHER!!!!!!!

Posted by: angie | May 29, 2008 12:13:26 AM

I am predicting Obama & his dirty team will reject any DNC decision on FL/MI this Saturday. He will get some delegates from the remaining primary elections and with the help of some Super Delegates and his dirty media friends he can declare the Race is Over as soon as they reach 2025.

Welcome to CHICAGO/INDONESIA/KENYA Politics. It is definitely a CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE.

Posted by: seba | May 29, 2008 12:14:34 AM

Obama is one scary dude. Have you ever read his writings about how he would choose judges? Whoa.

Posted by: Jo | May 29, 2008 12:14:54 AM

I'd vote for Obama if I hated my country. But I don't.

So I won't.

Posted by: Jo | May 29, 2008 12:15:59 AM

You will not support Hillary, or Obama? I think it has become clear that you hate Hillary and Obama; you're just a republican trying to divide us democrats; hah! it won't work

Kerry was one state away from winning in 2004; back then, the war just started, the economy was good.

Now, Obama or Hillary will win in a landslide; your time here is wasted.

Posted by: Mark | May 29, 2008 12:16:02 AM

Good point Mark. See I can't stand that B*t*h but if Id surely vote for her over McCain any day just because I can't stand the GOP. But the people that won't vote for Obama are just whining crybabies. Intelligent people know what is at stake and that a vote for Blue is the only way to go.

Posted by: intexas | May 29, 2008 12:16:03 AM

Staniam: You will not support Hillary, or Obama? I think it has become clear that you hate Hillary and Obama; you're just a republican trying to divide us democrats; hah! it won't work

Kerry was one state away from winning in 2004; back then, the war just started, the economy was good.

Now, Obama or Hillary will win in a landslide; your time here is wasted.

Posted by: Mark | May 29, 2008 12:16:09 AM

Right on, catleya!

If Hillary is denied the nom, then it's a Hillary write-in, third party, or McCain in November.

Posted by: Emily | May 29, 2008 12:16:18 AM

The only thing this election has convinced me of is how stupid Americans are. The Clintons have repeatedly lied, cheated, race-baited, tried to change rules, even brought up assination and there are people who are "supporting" them in their quest to steal an election. The popular vote does not count. It's a delegate election. Everyone agreed to that. Florida and Michigan do not count. Hillary agreed they wouldn't ... until she lost now she wants to change rules. I just can't believe there are people out there stupid enough to buy the Clinton bull. Let's not even talk about the shady deals in Kazahstan and white water stuff Barack has been too dignified to bring up and that the Repubs would trounce on, Hillary is hated by 50 percent of the country she would not win a general election.

Posted by: tj | May 29, 2008 12:16:38 AM

First of all Hillary isn't leading in the popular vote. If the caucus states were tallied on a county by county, person by person vote, Hillary would be overwhelmed in the popular vote department. Also, here is an analogy for all you folks who still don't understand the Clinton hustle!

Lets say that the Boston Celtics have just won the 5th game of the NBA Eastern Conference Final; which they did. And, lets say that the rules say who ever scores the most points wins the game, and the rules state just such a thing. Then lets suppose the losing team, Detroit, petitioned the NBA to disqualify the Celtics victory, because they hit more "3 pointers" than the Celtics, we would all say get the f_ _ K out of here! So goes the Clinton popular vote analogy. This is a contest, this presidential primary, you can't change the agreed upon rules, to suit you, that would not be a competition, it would be a "set - up."

Second, all the candidates agreed to the rules of the primary, before the primaries were held. The Clinton campaign didn't stand up for the voters of Michigan and Florida, when they signed on to the agreed upon rules. She agreed with the DNC.

Thirdly, America is more than a few northeastern states, and there are working class whites all over America who have voted for Obama, and will continue to support an agenda of "Change", and reject more of the same.

Fourthly, and finally, America is ready, and in desperate need of rejuvenation, reformation, and a very concentrated dose of Inspiration.

YES WE CAN!!!

Posted by: Michael KHeop | May 29, 2008 12:17:01 AM

Senator Clinton has lost the primaries. Clinton supporters can post whatever they want. It's a done deal, and the best candidate has won.
Further, Senator Clinton has demonstrated her poor judgment several times during this campaign, Senator Obama has shown how well he holds up under fire. It was rewarding to me to have such a long primary season, because it allowed me to see how both behave under trying circumstances. Hillary lost.

Posted by: Richard Bentley | May 29, 2008 12:17:15 AM

...more evidence of Mrs. Hidden Agenda's poor judgment; how much of her campaign contributions went to buying all of these plants.

I've seen less canned goods in a bomb shelter, even the same canned response appears by multiple posters.

dispicable. you lost. stop the spin, that's why we don't want your kind in office.

Posted by: brad | May 29, 2008 12:18:49 AM

Here we are at the playoffs for the SuperBowl. Barack has a one point lead and has the ball within 10 yards of another touchdown. With only 30 seconds left he will probably just eat up the clock in the next couple plays. But wait Hillary is arguing with an official that even if Barack has more points, her team has gained the most yards and should be declared the winner. Besides, her offense would have had another 50 yards early in the game if the officials hadn't,thrown their flags for too many on the field. Michigan and Florida thought they could sneak in without a flag being thrown. Hillary is arguing that every yard should count.Now she is arguing her team did better in the big critical area in the middle of the field. Now Bill is rushing on the field arguing with another official saying sportswriters say Hillaries team has a better chance of winning in the SuperBowl against McCain's team. If the officials let Barack win and advance to the SuperBowl, McCain's team will tear his team apart. Official are now in a huddle on the sidelines trying to decide how to determine the winner. Will it be points, who gains the most yards, who does well in the large middle section of the field, or base it on what sportswriters are saying would be the best match up in the Super Bowl. We will have to wait to hear what they decide. Once they decide, we will finish that last 30 seconds of the game. But even then, the decision of the official may be contested if it is not based on the most yards or what sportswriters think.

Posted by: MikeMo1947 | May 29, 2008 12:19:32 AM

The DNC an created undemocratic voting environment gerrymandering the votes so that some would be worth more than others, and rigging the caucuses so that working folks, and shift workers could not caucus. 100,000 votes brought less delegates than 10,000. These are undemocratic conditions which disenfranchise many millions of voters. It is in the caucus states that Obama won most of his delegates, and these are skewed. If he was an honorable man, and a true representative of the people he would have fought against this unfair practice and thereby gained much respect. But he has always leveraged the "rules" to his advantage when convenient as he did with longtime activist and Illinois Senator Alice Palmer.
It was when the voting rules were changed in such to such an undemocratic method without the democratic party rank and file's vote/say that I saw that the democratic party was no longer democratic. For true democrats the popular vote counts, and so for me Clinton is the legitimate nominee.

I have faith in Clinton, but none in the party any longer. Should Clinton not get the nomination then I will vote for a pragnatic solution which won't cause this country as much grief as an ill-informed, inexperienced president combined with a democratic congress, "superpowers" given to the presidency by Bush, and a supreme court which the democratic branches of the executive and legislative can also change such that it too becomes far left. A one party system has proven to be dangerous in Germany, USSR, and other nations. I will vote McCain and hope this country comes to its senses. A republican president with a democratic congress will provide and checked and balanced government.

Posted by: history will remember | May 29, 2008 12:19:59 AM

Obama chose to take his name off the ballot because he was losing by 20% it was a strategic move but proved to be bad judgment

http://iowaindependent.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1264

I have read that according to exit polls and you can research this everyone in MI knew uncommitted was Obama and/or Edward. Still, according to exit polls Obama lost to Clinton by approx, 20%. This is why he ojbected to a privately=paid for recount in MI.

I don't feel as bad now though I know Obama will lose in November no matter what.

Never never ever Hussin, if not Hillary, then vote McCain.

Posted by: J | May 29, 2008 12:20:02 AM

Jo, I have my own opinion. Sorry it differs from you. I said earlier that I would vote for a dem no matter what. You seem to be a nasty person to people who disagree with you.

Posted by: lisa | May 29, 2008 12:20:06 AM

Days are over, when few Hillary supporters can scare polite Obama Supporters!! OBAMA is name of a Movement to clean WH for WAR, BJ, after long 16 years!!

OBAMA08!! YES WE CAN!!

Posted by: RC | May 29, 2008 12:20:11 AM

Here's what you said Staniam:
"no Obama... Hillary says she will support the bnomineee because thats what shes supposed to say... she hasx the popular vote and that will tie it up till the convention... we will not support her"

We will not support HER. This tell us you hate them both. You're a lying replublican cause no democrat wants bush/mccsame over obama; Obama and Hillary agree on almost EVERYTHING

Posted by: Mark | May 29, 2008 12:20:18 AM

Some of the people posting seem think the same as Mr Bushes supporters. I realize that it is not easy for many to face the fact that they are being lied to (Bush WMDs) and (Hillary's I actully care about FL and MI.) President bush led us into an unjust and costly war, that has killed many, and left us into the highst debt that America have every had. However, there are those who still think that he is right and he did what is best for the country.Mrs. Clinton has been telling FL. and MI that she is the only person that cares that their votes are counted,and that she is better able to run this country. However she has not been able to run her run for the white house. Also she and her supporters are making it appear that Mr.Obama does not care. However,that is not the case, he has only did what the DNC requested and not try to over rule them. Just remember just like the WMDs, the I really care is only to get you to do her dirty work. I leave it to you.

Posted by: We The People | May 29, 2008 12:21:23 AM

Yep, I would vote for the Hillerator if she won, but she lost so long ago, the main benefit of her continuing has been to make plain to us all, including many of her millions of supporters and former supporters just how outlandishly self-centered and power mad the Clintons are, not caring who they damage, what lies they tell, what pledges they made (re Florida & Michigan) that they ignore.

All but her most rabid supporters aren't going to forget the Hillary Clinton show - she's done the most damage to herself, once the dust settles.

And with all that, of course I'd vote for her if she somehow happened into the nomination from here. This election is way too important....

As Mark says - time to be adults folks...Hillary or Obama in 08

Posted by: Kelly | May 29, 2008 12:22:28 AM


Dean's day numbered at DNC. Obama's guy in already. The guy who masterminded the Iowa caucus coup de tat.

http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=8370459

Posted by: Hank | May 29, 2008 12:22:55 AM

Well put, Emily.....

I certainly agree with you about not being proud of the Democratic party at this point in time.

As a lifelong Democrat, the thought that I might not be voting for the Party's nominee this November is very disturbing. Even during the Reagan years, when so many Democrats were obviously voting Republican, I never wavered in my party loyalty.

All of those other years when the Democratic candidate (however unelectable they were) was trounced in the general election, the candidate was ALWAYS clearly the Party's choice, and if they lost in November, so be it, but at least a very clear majority of the Party was behind that candidate.

That is why I just can't understand this year, when there is such an excellent candidate running slightly behind in delegates to the front-runner, and more than likely ahead in the popular vote, why they would find it so DIFFICULT to just choose the most electable one.

I can't remember a Democratic primary year that was ever this close so near to the finish line as this one is. No true Democrat should have a problem whatsoever accepting a strategic decision made by the Party to go with the most qualified and electable candidate when, statistically speaking, this primary race is a toss-up.

I don't know why the Party cannot stand up to its members and just say: Look, this is what we're doing, and we're doing it for your own good, and as what we have decided is our best shot at putting a Democrat back the White House.

Posted by: SandyB | May 29, 2008 12:23:35 AM

A bunch of uneducated statements have been made here. I know already that you are not good in Maths, not even in miracle. How could Hillary assemble the best coalition and still trails in the context?

Posted by: Sheila | May 29, 2008 12:24:11 AM

staniam, you don't think Iraq is an issue with this election. What am I missing here.

Posted by: d | May 29, 2008 12:25:00 AM

Obama's coup de tat of the DNC. I guess I'm not surprised. He will lose though in Novermber and a lot of the supers that went to him even though their states/constients went Hillary may pay a price.

http://www.kentucky.com/727/story/410882.html

Posted by: Hank | May 29, 2008 12:25:10 AM

What will happen is most Democrats with intellect and many independents will gravitate towards the Democractic candidate, in this case Obama, because they want change. What will be left by fall is a small cult like following of die-hard Hillary supporters that are left posting WE-WILL-NEVER-VOTE-FOR-OBAMA-SO-THERE! messages in random message boards thinking people still care.

Posted by: intexas | May 29, 2008 12:25:23 AM

I support Senator Obama for president. This has been the most grueling nomination process in my memory and he has consistently behaved with dignity, grace, class and integrity. I cannot say the same for his opponent.

As for his running mate, Senator Clinton disqualified herself for that position when she proclaimed McCain to be better qualified than her Democratic opponent. She put another nail in her coffin with her RFK assassination remarks. He cannot choose her now. He would appear weak and bullied.

Posted by: Eileen | May 29, 2008 12:26:31 AM

History will remember, that people of all economic classes got involved in the political process like never before. History will remember what Americans of all colors and ethnicities did, we believed in more than a persons resume, we identified with what is best in us, therefore we voted for Obama.

History will remember, that America was founded not by Kings and Queens, but by men and women who believed in a better world, and believed that they could resist the status quo of the day, and said to the world, "Yes We Can" , change the world.

And just think, some Americans, are now trying to convince us, that America was founded by men and women with experience in governing a nation, and not by men and women with the heart of lions, and the minds of owls.

YES WE CAN!!!

Posted by: Michael KHeop | May 29, 2008 12:27:07 AM

people Staniam is a Republican. He says he won't support Obama, then he says he wont' support HER. that means he hates both; he's a Republican trying to split us up. The fact is, Republicans, independents, and Dems will vote for Obama or Hillary cause they want to unite America and fix America.

Obama or Hillary 08

Posted by: Mark | May 29, 2008 12:27:20 AM

It really shows how engage Hillary supporters are in the issues if they can look at McCain and vote for him rather than Obama who has positions that mirror Clintons. Hillary voters are juvenile idiots who are either racist or desparate to see a woman in office. That's the only way to explain a vote for that pathetic corrupt woman. SOrry it's the truth.

Posted by: tj | May 29, 2008 12:27:25 AM

If Hillary can not defeat the least unelectable candidate still in the race, how could she defeat McCain? How could she even get to November when in May she is already having a huge debt of $40 millions?

Posted by: Sheila | May 29, 2008 12:28:05 AM