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Obama Tags in for Kennedy at Commencement Address
May 22, 2008 3:53 PM
ABC News' Sunlen Miller Reports: Senator Barack Obama, D-Ill., will fill in for Senator Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., in giving the commencement address at Wesleyan University this Sunday.
Kennedy was slated to give the university's address but, since being diagnosed with brain cancer this week, asked Obama to take his place.
"Ted and I talked about me filling in for him at Wesleyan University earlier this week," Senator Obama said in a statement, "Considering what he's done for me and for our country, there's nothing I wouldn’t do for him. So I'm looking forward to standing in his place on Sunday even though I know I won't be able to fill his shoes."
Kennedy, the liberal lion of the Senate, endorsed Obama's presidential bid on January 28 and has since his the '08 trail many times campaigning on Obama's behalf.
Kennedy's family has several ties to Wesleyan. His son, Edward Jr., graduated from the school in 1983 and his step-daughter Caroline Raclin is set to receive her bachelor's degree at Sunday's ceremonies. Wesleyan also granted the senator an honorary doctorate in 1984.
In a statement released by Kennedy's office, "Throughout the last week, Senator Obama has offered his support to Senator Kennedy including stepping in to deliver the commencement address at Wesleyan University. Senator Kennedy accepted knowing it would be an historic opportunity for the school and all those attending...He's enormously grateful to Senator Obama and the support he's received from all of his colleagues this last week."
Wesleyan holds its 176th Commencement ceremony on campus on Sunday at 11am. The speech will be Obama's first commencement address of the 2008 graduation season.
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A "fill in" is all Obama is ever going to be. If he hasn't got a script and step-by-step directions, he can't play the role.
Posted by: Emily | May 22, 2008 4:01:08 PM
How cold can you get? Lest we forget Wesley is where HRC graduated from. BURR.................
Posted by: JENNY | May 22, 2008 4:06:21 PM
Now the claws have to come out and anti-Obama posters will find something to say to strengthen their dislike. But isn't it nice here in this great country of ours for a Senior ailing Senator (whether you like him or not) to ask a Junior Senator to stand in his stead and have confidence in the little fella. Well that would be nice in this great land, but some will sure bring clouds over any thing that makes people happy and content. Prayers with Senator Kennedy and Senator Obama write a good speech - you follow in the steps of commencement speakers at Wesleyan who have set a high bar - enjoy the day.
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | May 22, 2008 4:13:30 PM
Jenney, I agree with your sentiment, but disagree on a fact. HRC graduated from Wellsley.
Posted by: Veneita | May 22, 2008 4:15:24 PM
Sheesh, that came out harsh huh? Actually I hope everyone votes come November. I just wish people voted based on issues that matter, and issues that affect Americans, not uninformed talking points.
Hillary Clinton went to Wellesley College. Where she served as President of the Young Republicans for a little while. Haha! Flip-flopper! :)
Posted by: Spimewrangler | May 22, 2008 4:18:12 PM
Wessley is where Hillary graduated, NOT WESLEYAN!!!!!!where BO is stepping in for Kennedy. I don't think her alma mater would ever wnat BO on their campus.
Posted by: Debra | May 22, 2008 4:22:20 PM
Obama will give a rousing speech, which will be well received. And with that, he will kick off the general election. Look for Hillary to try to answer by finding a commencement address of her own.
Posted by: Jeff | May 22, 2008 4:26:44 PM
Well stated by Spimewrangler and OnTheGloryRoad. To some of the others: Enough with your cynicism. You do not contribute to solving our major problems by acting like spoil-sports over Hillary's lost campaign.
Posted by: Andrew Segal | May 22, 2008 4:32:43 PM
I’m 35, and have been following politics for quite a while, and I’ve never been so disappointed with a politician I’ve admired and respected. Yesterday’s tactics weren’t just wrong, they were offensive. For that matter, they seem to be part of a deliberate strategy to tear Democrats apart and ensure a defeat in November.
For several weeks, I’ve appreciated the fact that Clinton considers herself the superior candidate, and has kept her campaign going in the hopes, from her perspective, of saving the party from itself. But after yesterday, it’s become impossible for me to consider Clinton’s intentions honorable. Her conduct is not that of a leader.
Instead of trying to help bring the party together — Election Day is 24 weeks away — Clinton went to Florida to argue that if Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee, his nomination will be illegitimate. And if the DNC plays by the rules Clinton used to support, it’s guilty of vote-suppression — comparable to slavery, Jim Crow, and Zimbabwe. Zimbabwe.
It is disgusting for HRC to co-opt the Civil Rights struggle after weeks of transparent appeals that whites won’t vote for the black guy which JUST SO COINCIDENTALLY took form during the Appalachian primaries (which conveniently occurred after North Carolina, the last state with a large black population)
It really is disgusting, and yet another nail in the coffin of what used to be Bill and Hillary's positive legacy to the party. She is now being openly mocked across the media and political spectrum. But I'm sure mentioning that is "sexist", and that everyone criticizing the joke her campaign has become is sexist as well.
Posted by: SMS | May 22, 2008 4:32:57 PM
Yes we love Hillary, write her in pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Posted by: Roxbat | May 22, 2008 4:34:13 PM
wow i really just dont know why anyone would still vote for hillary... talk about just a disgusting display...
how many times has she changed her position or reinvented her voice
such a terrible hypocrite
count all the votes except dont!
and of course im still waiting to hear about this gas tax holiday she is going to try to pass... after all memorial day weekend is coming up...
or does that not count since she lost north carolina and didnt get the huge win in indiana like she wanted
Posted by: bhrandon | May 22, 2008 4:37:11 PM
It's time for Ted Kennedy to step down from his Senate seat so someone sane can replace him and bring "CHANGE" and "HOPE" and make people 'FEEL CHANGE IN THE AIR'.
Posted by: Jkan | May 22, 2008 4:38:10 PM
if everyoen writes in hillary perhaps she will get as many votes as ron paul!
Posted by: bhrandon | May 22, 2008 4:38:15 PM
Like THAT isn't a set-up???
Posted by: TriciaNC | May 22, 2008 4:40:06 PM
Bhrandon or all the Democratic whites votes anyway :)
Posted by: Roxbat | May 22, 2008 4:40:11 PM
SMS - yes you are 35, though you sound much younger. Hillary is NOT doing anything disgusting, she is only fighting to get everyone's vote counted. Not for selfish reasons, either. If she wanted to win at all costs, there are a lot of things she could do and hasn't. You are totally misconstruing her reasons, and if you want to change your vote to someone else, that's your choice. You will find out too late that you reap what you sow, but so will all others whether they deserve it or not, because your vote counts too. No one ever thought this race was going to be so tight, and changing tactics is not the mark of an unethical person, it is the mark of someone who can think on their feet and react appropriately to a changing landscape. Your perspective is shallow, unthought-out and vindictive. I can personally she is for unity for the party, as I just talked to Clinton campaign headquarters, and based on my questions about write-in, they would not discuss that because of the party disunity that would cause. I personally disagree though, why rally behind a party that has shown such terrible and biased leadership. I won't repeat my experiences talking to the local DNC office, they are in my post above.
Please, rethink your reaction, and instead of making assumptions, do some research before you start writing hateful angry and, yes, divisive comments. People read these things and they do have the potential to affect how people think and act.
Posted by: Wendy4Decency | May 22, 2008 4:42:23 PM
Write-in's won't work in many states, unfortunately. I checked w/the state of PA and they reminded me of the electoral votes they have (21). Since Hillary is a democrat, the DNC has the right to decide who the electoral votes go to in the general. If they've already chosen obama as the nominee, they would give the electoral votes to obama, if the state went to the Dems.
The lawyer I spoke w/ in the govt office referred me to the U.S. Constitution, Article XII. 1 million write-in votes in one state would definitely make a statement but from what I've learned, will not elect a President due to the "electoral votes." If anyone knows something different I would like to know.
So, right now is the time to fight for the best candidate. Beat down the media and DNC until we have justice.
Posted by: Jenny | May 22, 2008 4:43:06 PM
She is just fighting fire with fire, SMS.
Posted by: Kitty | May 22, 2008 4:43:11 PM
SMS - I agree with your post. I was a former HRC supporter. As a woman, I don't think she's suffering from sexism. I think she's suffering from Clintonism. There are a lot of people who are not interested in putting them back in office...democrats and republicans---especially republicans. They burned a lot of bridges with friends.
She appears to want to be president as an ego-booster...or maybe to get out of her pending court case for campaign funds in her senate run....I don't really know what it is-but I'm starting to think it is not strictly for the American people.
Posted by: Justme | May 22, 2008 4:44:38 PM
Are you serious? Clinton is doing what she has to in order to keep the party together at all.
Yes Florida and Michigan need to be counted. At this point, Obama should let them seat as they were elected -- and he still wins.
Without them, Obama has even less of a chance at the White House than he does now.
Posted by: Ethan | May 22, 2008 4:45:11 PM
WESLEYAN is not Welsley! They are 2 very different schools, and WESLEYAN is a co-ed liberal arts school in CT. Hilary Clinton did NOT graduate from here.
Posted by: Laura | May 22, 2008 4:50:50 PM
What if Hillary stopped talking about the gas tax because the reaction of the people was against it? Does that not make her a candidate who listens to her constituency? I will say it again - those who cannot respond to the changing landscape will be hopelessly mired in obsolete, irrelevant choices. Being flexible is not a bad thing. Would you want a candidate who kept flogging a dead horse of an issue when public response reveals that the people are not behind it? Come on - those who would bash Hillary will always be able to twist things around to use as criticism. I see her as someone who will respond based on current issues and current circumstances and it only strengthens my belief that she is the best candidate by far than any other running. Go ahead and disagree, but you won't change my opinion. HILLARY IS THE BEST CHOICE.
Posted by: Wendy4Decency | May 22, 2008 4:51:29 PM
Justme, I agree with you....
Posted by: indy_voter | May 22, 2008 4:51:35 PM
Talk about voter remorse
A new poll released today in California finds political momentum shifting dramatically toward Barack Obama?and away from both Hillary Clinton and John McCain?in the nation's most populous state. According to a survey conducted over the past 10 days by the Public Policy Institute of California, 59 percent of likely voters here now have a "favorable" impression of Democrat Obama, while a majority view both of the other candidates unfavorably. In a state whose Democratic primary Clinton won in February, 51 percent of voters now say they have an unfavorable opinion of her; 53 percent of voters feel the same way about Republican McCain.
Obama, meanwhile, seems to be making strides across nearly every constituency. If the general election were held today, 54 percent of Californians say they would vote for him, compared with 37 percent for McCain. That gap has widened by 8 points since March. Obama enjoys the support of more than 80 percent of Democrats here, along with over half (55 percent) of independents. He leads McCain among men and women and is viewed favorably by nearly 70 percent of Latinos?a powerful political group, experts note, not just in California but in several other western states, including Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada.
Posted by: bhrandon | May 22, 2008 4:52:02 PM
Haters,
from commencement speech to Presidential address..January 2009!!
Get used to it folks...America has come a long way and President Barak Obama is able and ready to take America to Real Greatness!!
Posted by: skionx | May 22, 2008 4:52:05 PM
Obama will be very happy to meet his youth supporters.
They are not bitter at all , right?
Posted by: catleya | May 22, 2008 4:55:27 PM
Yeah...I don't get the fuss at this point. Even if they seat MI and FL as Hillary's wins....doesn't BO still win with all his super d support and all? Someone explain. I'm a Hillar/McCain person and I sure like the Republican winner take all method better.
Posted by: Debra | May 22, 2008 4:56:45 PM
Well first of all he has not won anyhing yet kennedy is so nice but the truth is wasgington has not done a damm thing since they signed the civil rights act they never do much that is why this country is falling. They are always talking like they care they think we are stupid and we must be to put up with it Ive been hearing about oil and health care and education and Roev Wade for all my adult life every four years they pick thier king and we are left with the crumbs . You don't see the rich of the world knocking at are door wanting to move in just the poor.I have little respect fo rany of them.Sorry he is sick at least he has health care.
Posted by: Bishop | May 22, 2008 4:59:43 PM
so democrat4mccain
you only believe polls where hillary is winning
ok thats cool
Hey where is the gas tax holiday bill from hillary?
Posted by: bhrandon | May 22, 2008 5:00:40 PM
Obama stand in for Kennedy and Kennedy wants his wife to stand in for him in the senate.
I would which is more interesting news, guess it's the part where the great one Obama is going to give a speech.
Posted by: SJ | May 22, 2008 5:02:08 PM
Wendy4Decency, Seems to me the Democratic party rules were set well in advance and it is the Clintons who are now trying to change rules. Clinton supporters need to get over this election. As much as I dislike Hillary for the blatant politics she and her husband play in the end I know that Hillary and Bill will support the Democratic nominee. Their supporters should do so as well if they are to call themselves Democrats. Otherwise, I would suggest you quit the Democratic party because I don't think you truly believe the values of the party. Quit first before you start expousing the nonsense of voting for a write-in candidate. As an Independent voter I do not have a problem voting for any party or writing in a candidate (which I would if Hillary is nominated). I just cannot understand that behavior from those who have chosen to join a party. Sounds a bit childlish to me...
Posted by: indy_voter | May 22, 2008 5:02:34 PM
democrat4mccain
if they seat mi and fl in teh way SHE wants she may be ahead in popular vote..... but ONLY if she doesnt COUNT every vote
and guess what the rules are delegates, hillary knows this, your candidates stupid tactics to move the goal posts or change the rules is only going to hurt her
TIME OUT i know you are on the 99 yard line, but i just wanted to add taht we are now switching goals and im going to take the ball because im a girl
lol nice try
i cant wait for the smack down on hillary
Posted by: bhrandon | May 22, 2008 5:03:22 PM
Brent,
Good comment.
Posted by: catleya | May 22, 2008 5:03:41 PM
Justme.........Call it what ever you'd like, but it's nothing more than Political Grandstanding. This just gives Obama another spotlight.
Posted by: Eric | May 22, 2008 5:06:00 PM
Wendy4Decency-I am a HRC supporter, but SMS has some good points. Why must we continue to support her when she does something as un-presidential as that. I only have 1 vote and I am seriously considering shifting my support to BHO, Why should I let JSM win because my preferred candidate is losing a democratic race and misleading me into false hopes.(Michigan and Florida) If she became president would she then change the rules she agreed to one she takes power.
And another thing, I don't feel that she lost because she was a woman, remember everyone else running for the nomination that dropped out were men. I just don't think she was the right woman, I don't want a woman in the white house only because she happens to be a woman I want the best possible woman in there.
We all have our faults, but is this really the best woman we can find for the job? I hope not or we are all in trouble.
Posted by: Nina | May 22, 2008 5:07:43 PM
DemocratforMcCain,
Yes, according to the research about more than 50% of colleges students take drugs.
This is very scary.
I guess they vote for Obama because they know Obama took drug and for them it's cool.
Remember, Obama wants to legalize mariyuana?
Posted by: catleya | May 22, 2008 5:08:32 PM
Catleya: You said..."Remember, Obama wants to legalize mariyuana?".....I'll make sure I note that in the margin next to education improvement.
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | May 22, 2008 5:10:44 PM
My God. How cruel can you all be? The man just found out he has a brain tumor. So what if he goes sailing? So what if he does not feel up to giving a speech? In the overall scheme of life some things are not that important. But for people to complain because Obama is going to step in for a friend is just plain horrible. I pray that if anything horrific or tragic happen to you all that you have a friend that will step in.
Posted by: cruel | May 22, 2008 5:12:52 PM
tv - I agree with you. I'm adamantly opposed to Obama, but I agree with you completely. It is totally ugly to kick someone when they're down, or criticize people just because they support a different candidate. Though I don't necessary support Ted Kennedy in his endorsement of BO, or on many other issues, I agree with him on still other issues... but regardless, I admire the Kennedys as a family, who have borne more than their share of tragedy, and Ted and his family are in my prayers and thoughts in the difficult times ahead, and I wish him a speedy recovery so he can get back to work. I support everone's right to their opinion, and I will do my best to campaign for Hillary, and I would only ask that people of both camps please respect the rights of others to their opinions, and that everyone's votes should count. I do think this primary has been thrown by a number of factors, mostly the media and the DNC "leadership," and it is sad how many people are not thinking but using their emotions instead of their intelligence and also failing to do research before they spout hatred and ignorance. But they're still entitled to their opinions, but I wish they'd cool it on the hate and disrespect. That is not good for anyone, and does not bode well for this country's future in general, and signals a decline in values and intelligence and wisdom in the US as well. We really need to become personally responsible for our actions and return to a set of higher values overall. Thank you for this opportunity to speak out, and for reading my posts.
Posted by: Wendy4Decency | May 22, 2008 5:12:57 PM
Hey Deborah,
If you choose Mccain, you choose four more years of the Iraq war. Remember that.
Posted by: donis georgiou | May 22, 2008 5:14:48 PM
Nina, thanks for the thoughtful comments. Wish the blogs had more like you. Hope the country does.
Posted by: louielouie | May 22, 2008 5:16:09 PM
As a Wesleyan alumni, I can say this will be an extraordinary day and an honor to have him fill in. Obama delivering the commencement address, backing up an ailing Ted Kennedy with the Kennedy family in attendance in the midst of a historic election like this will be something to tell our grandkids.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | May 22, 2008 5:20:08 PM
Wendy4decency,
If I wrote in Hillary's name on the ballot whould the party give it to Obama?
Posted by: catleya | May 22, 2008 5:20:17 PM
sorry, I meant: would
Posted by: catleya | May 22, 2008 5:21:18 PM
hey Louie,
Mccain = 3rd Bush Term. THAT makes me vomit
Posted by: donis georgiou | May 22, 2008 5:22:07 PM
All this ranting and raving will not stop Barak Obama from winning the Presidential election this november. Hillary Clinton is history...she's just nailed her political coffin...she's done and unfortunately left a big smudge on all the hardworking women of America. John Mccain....can't even articulate any good policy..how much more knowing what's good for America. McCain feels that it is his entitlement to be President...just like George Bush was shoved on all our faces 7.5 years ago! Get it people..it's over with Rulership by entitlement!
Posted by: skionx | May 22, 2008 5:23:46 PM
Emily,
Thanks for the information.
But as the commentators said it yesterday, the DNC doesn't buy it.
What can we do?
We are trapped and choked.
We have no right to speak.
Posted by: catleya | May 22, 2008 5:24:59 PM
I don't rely on the polls
Posted by: donis georgiou | May 22, 2008 5:25:09 PM
Polls for upcoming state primaries seem like good indicators..but I'm not in the boat for G.E. polls. So much could change among public perception/opinion by November.
Posted by: Justme | May 22, 2008 5:28:13 PM
I think every Michigan vote should count. That includes all of the write-in votes for Obama that were disqualified. That means all of the votes for "uncommitted" which were really votes for Obama that Hillary is trying to claim as hers.
HRC will only lead in the popular vote if she continues to use new math and claim that not a single person in Michigan supports Obama. Talk about real disenfranchisement! No wonder she can only find support among the uneducated and senile.
I want my Michigan vote to count... for Obama!
Posted by: MichiganRick | May 22, 2008 5:28:20 PM
Go Obama go!!! You will be a great president. There must be something good in for Ted to want you to fill in for him. Go Obama go!!!
Posted by: Kenny | May 22, 2008 5:29:09 PM
debra are you injecting race into this primary season?
wierd i thought thsi race wasnt racist at all instead it was all sexist
lol
give it up, i think all of you are just mccain and rush limbaugh operatives
maybe a few of you are actually hillary supporters who are pissed because your candidate ran a terrible campaign and finally when she has stummbled into a winning stump that seems to be resonating its all over for her
poor ladies
Posted by: bhrandon | May 22, 2008 5:31:09 PM
Wish I could find the verbatim minutes of the meeting that disenfranchised Florida and Michigan voters. It is my understanding that at least 12 of the 30 present are acknowledged Clinton supporters. The initial decision was to remove half of the votes. It was Harold Ickes, part of Clinton campaign, who pushed for all of the votes to be removed. Now he too wants the rules changed. Go after him, Clinton supporters. One lone voice objected, a Floridian Obama supporter. Facts are just that. If HRC supporters want to continue on a path of spin and lying on that issue, then so be it. HRC cannot win in November without all of the new Dem members, the younger, the better educated, the Blacks, older LOL's like me, the Independents and those who would feel that cheating is not acceptable. She has also outraged a lot of Hispanics and Blacks, primarily females, who voted for her since they are not White hard working Americans. HRC supporters should not delude themselves on those counts. We have been lied to and cheated on for over seven years as in Iraq for starters. And, again, why were all of you not howling last August about the decision with time to make changes? Simple. HRC only now needs those votes. I am totally disgusted and will be watching the DNC very closely. Been a Dem for 45 years but can change to Independent if necessary to remove myself from a tainted party. And, I would work very hard to make sure she would not have a chance in 2012 if McCain should win this one but under the thumb of a Democratic Congress. This is America not Russia with a career politican like Putin pulling all the election strings. Get over it.
Posted by: Tricia C | May 22, 2008 5:31:19 PM
Oh, for crying out loud. I'm a Democrat 1st. All this sniping has the Republicans dancing around in the street. All I can say for all of you that say you won't support who ever gets the nomination because you were for the other guy need to remember what the past 8 years were like. Do you honestly want more of that? I was an uncommitted delegate at our caucus because I was an Edwards supporter & he dropped out of the race. Honestly, after that, I really didn't have a preference. I just know the last 8 years have been truly awful and I do not see them getting any better as long as we keep doing the same thing over and over again--it's totally insane. I thought the world of the Clinton's. I stood in line countless hours to purchase his book and to have it signed. It was one of the great moments of my life--very memorable. In my eyes, he was a great President and I stood for him & Hillary every time the Republican slime machine tore into those folks. Then I watched two people I admired so much tear into a great human being just like the Republicans did to them and I decided to get off the fence. I don't want slime, I want action. There are homeless, hungry, unemployed people in this country. It's the economy stupid!! I want someone who will deal with the issues and not get in office like the Republicans do by smearing their opponets. I can tell you, though, if Hillary does pull it off and becomes the candidate, I will vote for her in a heartbeat!! The Republicans have damaged the citizens of this country beyond belief!!
Posted by: Betsy | May 22, 2008 5:31:40 PM
Hillary says she is the only one to beat McCain and the polls say she is RIGHT. Clinton beats McCain in FL, and OH, same thing. Quinnipiac Polls.....look at them NOW! She wins the states Dems have to win. They did say if she had campaigned in Jan/Feb, like she is now she would be the nom, hands down. Quite frankly, they are leaving out Wright, Michelle, bittergate all after Feb. WE WILL FREAKIN REMEMBER....HE CAN'T ERASE THIS S---
Posted by: Debra | May 22, 2008 5:37:24 PM
Jenny - I spoke to my congressman who tells me that EVERY US CITIZEN HAS THE RIGHT TO WRITE-IN A CANDIDATE. Here's the bottom line, according to my congressman: The electoral vote is based on the individuals' votes - whoever gets the most votes, gets all the electoral votes. It is a winner-take-all situation. So, for instance, if Hillary Clinton gets enough write-ins and has just 1 vote more than Barack Obama, she gets the whole electoral college. That is why your vote is SO important. Particularly as this is a very tight primary. I believe that you should call your local auditor, or whatever office is responsible for collecting and counting votes, and tell them that you want to write-in the candidate of your choice and ask them what is the procedure for that in your local area. You CANNOT be denied the right to write in a vote, nor can your vote be changed or disqualified in any way, by anyone, not even a political party. But you have to follow whatever the procedure is, so you have to find that out. I urge you to do so, dear, because I see that you are truly interested and want to be a responsible voter. Please do not let anyone that could possibly have a vested interest or hidden agenda advise you - and a lawyer would fall under that category. The bottom line is that you need to call your local government office in charge of collecting and counting votes, and ask them how to do a write-in so that it is properly done and will count. Good luck!
Posted by: Wendy4Decency | May 22, 2008 5:38:54 PM
bhrandon...when the dems offer up the nominee who can't win....I will still support Hillary AND WORK MY A-- OFF IN SEPT TO ELECT SEN. McCAIN.
Posted by: Debra | May 22, 2008 5:39:50 PM
If Obama ends up with the nomination (which will only happen when Hillary concedes unless it goes to convention), he will get a slight bump in the polls. Then the republicans will release the rest of what they have saved in their arsenal and Obama will be toast. He won't win the general.
Posted by: Susan | May 22, 2008 5:41:45 PM
catleya:
We do have a voice. It may not be the voice we anticipated or wanted, but It's still a voice... I will support Hillary until the end, no matter what. If, however, at the end of the process, she doesn't receive the nod, I will vote McCain. Write-in's don't guarantee that Obama loses. Voting for Nader may serve Obama rather than McCain. Thus, I will vote McCain.
in the event Hillary does not receive the Dem nod, I'll give you two reasons why I would rather swing my support to McCain.
1. Experiential acumen. McCain is actually quite moderate as a policy-maker, and has the depth of experience, which should be commensurate with the presidency. IMO, Hillary's policy stance is superior, while shorter-lived than McCains. Virtually everything Obama does is either to further his political ascendancy, or to defend against his own bad judgment. Furthermore, his stance to meet without preconditions with Mahmud Ahmadinejad, and the leaders of Syria, Cuba, and North Korea is beyond naive, it's downright dangerous.
2. Judgment, integrity, and patriotism. Both Hillary and McCain are devout patriots, and continue to demonstrate their love for America and a stalwart commitment to maintaining her safety. Obama's judgment is the unrivaled worst, as his close relationships to Wright, Meeks,Weathermen domestic terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, Hamas, Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) member and anti-Israeli extremist, Rashid Khalidi, and the radical with intimate ties to Iran and Hezbollah, Qazwini, clearly attests.
Posted by: Emily | May 22, 2008 5:45:16 PM
hence why she is losing, cant wait to see the polls after her BS stunts in florida
cmon
pandering at its finest!!!
tell me is she going to write that legislation for the gas tax??? monday is memorial day after all
Posted by: bhrandon | May 22, 2008 5:45:23 PM
It's possible for a Democrat to lose Florida and Ohio and still be president. Kennedy was the last one to do it. Obama would have to win Iowa and either Missouri or Virginia. Of course, if he wins either Ohio or Florida he could lose Iowa, Missouri and Virginia.
Obama can and will do it. He is very much electable, but it will not a very close election.
Hillary's behavior is not becoming of a national leader. She is trying to change the rules so that she can win the game. Florida and Michigan knew exactly what would happen if they voted early. Obama had nothing to do with that and Clinton is not going to win by getting FL and MI delegates seated. It's a red herring.
If polls were used to determine who gets the nomination, what's the point of having a primary? We had a primary, Obama has won it, I don't see what everybody's arguing about!
Posted by: Jeff | May 22, 2008 5:45:45 PM
emily you do realize hillary and obama have 95% of the same policies right?
and mccain may have been moderate, but if you have been paying attention to ANYTHING he has done you will know he is not anymore
Posted by: bhrandon | May 22, 2008 5:47:16 PM
Jenny I just reread your post. I think you, or maybe the person you talked to, are confused between the primary and the general election. Yes, the party does have such powers in the primary but ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. Please, please, read my earlier post addressed to you - and when you call your local precinct for answers, right at the beginning state that you are talking about the GENERAL ELECTION, about the procedure for writing in a vote in the GENERAL ELECTION, that you want to write in a candidate in the general election and you want to make sure your vote counts. This right cannot be taken from you in the general election, and unlike the primaries, in the general election in November the electoral college votes are a matter of a simple majority - even one vote more than the other candidates will win the entire electoral college. Please, if this does not clarify things for you, ask again and I will watch for you today and tomorrow and try to help you understand. I AM biased for Hillary, I will admit that right up front, but I also more strenuously support the PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE, and will accept whatever the majority wants. But I dearly would like to help make sure that no one is misled as to how things work by biased individuals who would lie and misinform if it means more votes for their candidate. I will not do that. I will always support the right of the majority to choose, and if my candidate doesn't win, I can accept that as long as the voting process was fair.
Posted by: Wendy4Decency | May 22, 2008 5:49:35 PM
So Ted can go sailing but can't give speech-hmmm-wonder how the school feels about that?
Posted by: keb | May 22, 2008 5:52:57 PM
Congratulations to OBAMA he will be an excellent speaker. Sorry I won't be there!
Posted by: Good Choice | May 22, 2008 5:57:05 PM
Emily,
Thanks a lot.
Posted by: catleya | May 22, 2008 5:57:57 PM
I can't wait to vote for Obama in Novemeber. I live in Florida and I'm white!
OBAMA '08
Posted by: White_Tampa_ Guy | May 22, 2008 6:00:02 PM
Wendy...I am a true Hillary supporter, who doesn't want my taxes raised. I would have voted for her in Nov. (and appreciate she and McCain have a good friendship...he called her on her huge win in WVA) but will not take a risk here in Calif writing her name in. I just can't take chances with somebody I so passionatley don't want Obama anywhere near the WH, and that won't happen with just the college kid/black/ liberal/radical core group.
But I will have to not only vote McCain I will be working in his offices five days a week come fall.
Posted by: Debra | May 22, 2008 6:01:13 PM
democratformccain - I think you have it spot on. Unfortunately. But must you vote for McCain??? I am so curious now - please tell me why you are voting McCain? Please?
Posted by: Wendy4Decency | May 22, 2008 6:01:42 PM
I am a Democrat who supports Obama and does not hate Hillary, although I strongly disagree with her most recent crusade to change the rules that she had earlier agreed to uphold. Blatant sexism has indeed reared its ugly head this campaign, as has overt racism, as any cursory reading on the internet will show. But Hillary Clinton is not a victim of the media, the Obama campaign or anything else. Hillary began this campaign with overwhelming advantages in name recognition, voter support, money, endorsements and organization. This was all supposed to have been over after Super Tuesday. I would have gladly voted for her in Nov. even though she was not my first choice. (That would be Gov. Richardson) The reality, by any thoughtful, objective analysis, is that Barack Obama ran a superior campaign, from the bottom-up. Which campaign more efficiently managed money? Which campaign had no staff upheavals and infighting? Which campaign had a strategy beyond Feb. 5th? Which campaign built a grass-roots organization in every state? Which campaign has zero debt? Which campaign is currently conducting a 50-state voter registration drive? The candidate nobody ever heard of beat the candidate that everyone knows. Period. Its not personal, and hating Obama out of frustration and anger is counter-productive.
For the record, I look forward to the day when I can link arms with my Democratic brothers and sisters on behalf of a female candidate and battle the haters and misogynists, taking the slings and arrows, arm in arm. Hillary wasn't the wrong woman. She was the wrong person.
Posted by: progressnow | May 22, 2008 6:03:13 PM
Brent,
Don't worry , Pelosi said yesterday on PBS, Hillary is unlikely to be his VP.
I'm glad to hear that.
Posted by: catleya | May 22, 2008 6:08:00 PM
indy voter - I am NOT a democrat - never have affiliated with ANY party and never will. I will NEVER support an Obama presidency, and there are plenty like me, in fact, it's so dam close we have to get a call by the supers, for whatever that's worth. See my other posts. Like me, you are entitled to your opinion, but if you pay as much attention to all else as you did to what I said, you are missing a great deal and so your opinions are missing a great deal as well.
Posted by: Wendy4Decency | May 22, 2008 6:08:03 PM
Wendy...why don't you want anyone to vote for McCain if Obama is their only other choice...I'm confused.
Posted by: Debra | May 22, 2008 6:09:35 PM
Hillary supporters need to be careful what you do and say. If Obama gets the nomination and there is a feeling that he has been sabotaged then there will be such a backlash against Hillary by a major block of the Democatic party that she will never ever get the votes to become president if she choose to run anytime in the future.
Democrats certainly should not be making enemies of each other especially with the mess that the Republicans have dragged us into.
Posted by: al213 | May 22, 2008 6:11:03 PM
Come on people, it is a graduation. Why is it that you always find something negative in everything. Get a life of your own and maybe you won't time to complain about every single thing. You all are pitiful.
Posted by: Deb | May 22, 2008 6:11:37 PM
Brent...you're right and there needs to be a very loud and visible movement of Hillary supporters to McCain camp. Websites, whatever. I, fortuantely, am an at home mom, who can work for him here in the fall (L.A). I only donated to Hillary campaign so far, but I know there are millions of us out of 17 million Hillary supporters who will support Sen. McCain. American first, party second. I have always voted for who I thought would be the best prez, despite party.
Posted by: Debra | May 22, 2008 6:14:24 PM
Wendy4Decency, It seems Hillary Clinton and John Mccain supporters keep trying to perpetuate the myth that Barack Obama supporters are all young or are naive or
uninformed. I am a 49-year-old, intelligent, politically-informed, hard-working, white, feminist woman from CA who voted for Barack Obama in the primary and who will vote for him in the GE. I have voted in every Presidential election since I turned 18; I was a registered Democrat until ~10 years ago when I reregistered as a Independent because the Democratic Party was becoming as stale and entrenched as the Republican Party. I do not want to vote for Hillary Clinton for many reasons; For one, her support of Tata Consultancy Agency an Indian-owned corporation operating in the US which along with 10 other Indian-owned corporations outsources jobs to India and receives 30% of all H-1B visas to insource Indian labor to replace US workers here. As far back as 2003, she started praising Tata and their outsourcing/insourcing as beneficial to New York and the US. I also watched the C-span televising of the August 2006 proceedings of the DNC vote on the 2008 primary schedule and delegate penalties for candidates and states for state primaries that were moved up. At that DNC proceeding, Kathleen Sullivan, Rep. from NJ (and Hillary Clinton supporter), clearly
stated that Bill and Hillary Clinton supported her in opposition to "front-loading" the 2008 DNC primary( in other words she says they didn't support
any early primaries other than Iowa and NJ,(not Nevada, not S Carolina and most definitely not Michigan and Florida);she states that she and they agreed that the primary would definitely be over and a nominee selected by the end of January.
The DNC clearly stated that candidates who campaigned in the "non-sanctioned" primaries would not receive any delegates and that the State delegates from such primaries would not be honored. These recommendations were made by a committee of 40 led by two individuals selected by Terry McAuliffe(the DNC chair appointed by Bill Clinton; in charge of Hillary Clinton's campaign) and Carl Levine (Sen from MI). Several states vied for the early primary slots (including MI but not Fl) and ultimately Nev and SC were
selected; This is not the first time MI has tried to move up their primary; When Terry McAuliffe was the DNC chair he threatened to remove MI delegates if they followed through on Carl Levine's plan to move up the MI primary in 2004; Carl Levine tried to call McAuliffe's bluff and McAuliffe stated something to the effect of take it to the bank, Carl, Michigan's delegates will not be seated at the convention if Michigan follows through on early primary in violation of DNC rules. Apparently some of these people are "bi-polar" or have short-term amnesia regarding their stands on this issue. (Or is it political-expediency). And while we're at it, the original Jan
MI primary was an OPEN primary permitting Dems, Repubs and Inds to vote for any candidate of any party; Hillary's position on revoting MI was to make it a CLOSED primary allowing only Dems and then only allowing Dems who were able to certify they had not voted for a candidate in the Repub. primary held on the same date in January; SO it truly would not have been a REVOTE, but a selective REVOTE to disallow any voters she thought might not vote for her;Doesn't sound like enfranchisement of the voters to me. That said, I will
vote for Hillary Clinton in the GE over John McCain because I am opposed to continuing the Iraq war (even a layperson was capable of determining the
basis for going into the Iraq war was faulty FROM the START) and don't think OUR economy can survive a McCain presidency; That said, I'm glad I have a choice to vote for Brack Obama rather than just having to vote fore the "lesser of two evils".
Posted by: Laura | May 22, 2008 6:15:13 PM



