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President Clinton Acknowledges There Have Been “Moments” of Gender Bias
May 20, 2008 3:44 PM
ABC News' Kate Snow and Eloise Harper report: Senator Clinton and her husband stopped by a restaurant earlier today in Louisville, KY. President Clinton was mobbed by reporters and at times Senator Clinton was spotted alone wandering around signing a few autographs – while President Clinton answered questions on gender in the race, Michigan and Florida and a joint ticket.
Asked by ABC's Kate Snow if gender had been a factor in this race the president replied saying that there might have been moments. "I don't think there's any question there have been moments in this campaign when the sort of gender biases and pre-suppositions have come out. But she's done well. She just keeps going on. I think it's really been very interesting to see. I'm very proud of her." Clinton also said this about sexism in the race "You know when this is all over everybody will go back and unpack it all. You know, I'm not sure anybody knows. But I think that over time, you look at how her vote has steadily risen among men? In these primaries? I think in part because people have become more comfortable with the idea that she could be president." The former president continued to say.
President Clinton was also asked about a unity ticket – and said that the two people that "should" be talking about it are his wife and Senator Obama. "I have no business talking about that. There are only two people in America who should be talking about that – the rest of us should be silent and observe." It was unclear if the president was implying that he agreed Senator Obama and Clinton speak about it – or if he meant that people should stop speculating.
The former president also said there will be no nominee determined this evening and what the DNC is doing with Florida and Michigan is not smart and reminiscent of what the Republicans did with Florida. "There won't be (a nominee) tonight, unless you decapitate Michigan and Florida which is violates our values and is dumb politics. Look at I never I'd live to see it. Republicans are supposed to be the people who don’t count votes in Florida not democrats".
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Probably have been moments of Gender Bias.
But Hillary plain got out worked, out smarted, out voted by a better candidate.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | May 20, 2008 3:49:59 PM
name them please.
Posted by: Louis | May 20, 2008 3:55:20 PM
The truth of the matter is that throughout this campaign the biased rhetoric against Senator Clinton that was engaged in by the DNC and by some national and state members of the Democratic party was unacceptable, but particularly abhorrent were the blatant sexist attacks by the MSM and pundits when it came to Senator Hillary Clinton's candidacy.
Collectively, what those behaviors show is that the Democratic party is not the political party women should join. Not even one stalwart male [or female for that matter] in the Democratic party stepped forward to denounce the demeaning language used by the MSM or pundits against Senator Clinton throughout this campaign -- and that includes her opponent, Obama.
The Republican party stalwarts would never have remained silent and permitted the sexist/misogynistic rants that were repeatedly aimed at Senator Hillary Clinton if she were their candidate. Bottom line message to women -- consider joining the Republican party, make it into a party that values women and families -- vote for McCain in the general election.
Posted by: C.Clark | May 20, 2008 4:03:10 PM
The fact that she states there was sexism but no racism tells me she is just setting the basis of her exit.
Remember, it is never her fault. Never.
How self absorbed can you get?
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 20, 2008 4:04:02 PM
It was a long campaign and odds are there have been moments of gender bias or racial bias. Odds favor it. There was probably even gender bias in favor of Hillary. When she cried, she won NH. A dood couldn't cry and get away with it in the media
But Gender Bias ain't the reason Hills got beat.
Posted by: The Commander Guy | May 20, 2008 4:04:14 PM
Lates Gallup poll says that Clinton only leads by 51% or more among women obver 50 all othe deomgraphics show that Obama is leading.
I didn't think all the blame game she has been making the last couple of weeks would help her much. She is growing weaker by the day. She had a nice run but it is over.
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | May 20, 2008 4:08:38 PM
If you choose to frame your canidacy behind your gender, age (experience, whatever!) or race you can't be SURPRISED! (Gasp!) if you are held accountable for it. DUH!!! Stop acting like a "girl" Hiliary (Your own words, not mine!) and grow the hell up!!!
Posted by: blog | May 20, 2008 4:14:49 PM
I can't wait to watch MSNBC cover this story.
They're always rolling their eyes, or shrugging their shoulders with the male version of "who me, what did I do?" expression whenever this topic is discussed.
Posted by: sherr | May 20, 2008 4:15:29 PM
Obama may win the nomination, but there is absolutely no way he is going to win the general election. None. Zilch. Zero. Nada.
Posted by: CharlieG | May 20, 2008 4:17:31 PM
She was the defacto Candidate from last November until January. She was all smiles until she lost Iowa.
NAME THE INCIDENCES OF GENDER BIAS!
Posted by: Louis | May 20, 2008 4:18:40 PM
Save it! BO's people have been using the race card since the beginning and have been getting away with it!
Posted by: lol | May 20, 2008 4:19:09 PM
So does this mean that people actually believe that this society is more biased against a white woman than a black man?
If this is the case, I just have one small question....ARE YOU PEOPLE CRAZY?
Posted by: AutoCadSkills | May 20, 2008 4:21:36 PM
As I typed earlier, she's just laying down the framework of her excuse as to why she got trounced.
Again remember, it's never her fault.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 20, 2008 4:23:13 PM
Mona - They conveniently omit the fact that Clinton signed an agreement that MI and FL votes and delegates would not count. They conveniently omit that it was the head of the Clinton Campaign, Terry McAuliffe, that warned both states they would be stripped if they moved their contest up.
They conveniently omit alot, don't they?
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 20, 2008 4:40:29 PM
The story just proves the point that a lot of the "support for Hillary" was actually a front for a third term for Bill. If it works in Argentina with a spouse and in Russia with a put in for Putin they thought it would work here. Bill's frequent reference of when "we" get into office during much of the campaign also reinforced this point. We don't need 28 years of two families running America.
Posted by: bhciapol | May 20, 2008 4:49:55 PM
Remember, Nat, it's never their fault. Never.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 20, 2008 4:51:53 PM
I am sure there is gender bias in some situations but It is hard to say after the fact that she was the only woman running with less experience than half of the men and she ran a horribly flawed campaign that gender bias was even in the top 10 of why she failed.
Why did she beat 8 men that had almost as significant resumes and standings as she did.
Joe Biden, John Edwards, Dodd, Richardson.
She beat them with a background as first lady and a senator for a few years.
The only one she didn't was the young guy who got the message right and spoke out against the war. who ran his campaign better than most successful corporations.
To say this was a loss grounded in sexism... hurts every woman in a job who is sincerely fighting against sexism... it hurts the argument.
Posted by: dl | May 20, 2008 5:02:15 PM
Chris Mathew, Ole.. at MSNNBC and other reporters(i don't remember the name) are sexist.
Posted by: Stephanie | May 20, 2008 5:07:25 PM
Good point, dl. It marginalizes everyone out there that is actually fighting for equal pay. It marginalizes those that really ARE being discriminated against.
They both owe each and every woman out there a sincere apology.
Posted by: Texas Voter | May 20, 2008 5:07:31 PM
All I can say is wake me up on May 31st. If Bill was worried about my state (MI)being "decapitated, why didn't he object last fall when Hillary was signing the sanctions?
Now Bill says the Repub. system is more fair and Hillary is quoting KARL ROVE!!
Stop the madness!!
Posted by: Really? | May 20, 2008 5:13:45 PM
There are some men that would never vote for a woman and some whites that would never vote for a black. Sad to say that's just how it is.
Posted by: d | May 20, 2008 5:32:31 PM
Really?, I think this will play out until the last primary. Then the supers will come out and endorse Obama. I'm sure both Hillary and Obama know which supers are backing them and that Obama has it. But this should end in June.
Posted by: erin | May 20, 2008 5:41:42 PM
Debra, Kentucky will go red no matter what.
Posted by: d | May 20, 2008 5:43:45 PM
Hillary is going to score another sooper dooper tonight and Obama has not won the nomination. Poor ole Hillery ... the way CNN and MSNBC have treated her. She needs more coverage not less so she can win the nomination.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 20, 2008 5:48:17 PM
Fox is fair and balanced news for Demo's and Repub's alike.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 20, 2008 5:51:28 PM
erin,
you could be right, but they may get tired of hearing the excuses. She has been mathmatically insignificant for a month now, but everyone, including the media and the DNC has decided to suspend reality and say "Sure, it's not over" when for all practical purposes, is and has been. But if she starts saying that she lost because of MI and FL, they may lose patience with her.
Posted by: Really? | May 20, 2008 5:51:55 PM
Debra,
THE LATE NIGHT COMICS?? Please don't tell me you are serious! They make fun of the Pope, cancer or hemmoroids. That is waht they get paid to do. Please give me a better argument than paid stand up comics.
Posted by: Really? | May 20, 2008 5:54:35 PM
Hillary is the best candidate because white working class people vote for her and only eletist voters and blacks vote for Obama.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 20, 2008 5:55:29 PM
Debra,
My son had surgery in Feb. and was in the hospital for 10 days, I had nothing to do but read old TIME and Newsweek, etc. from last summer. The DNC was not in the bag for Obama. In the interviews they regarded Obama as a quaint idea who stood no chance against the Clinton Machine. She had already raised $100 million, had name recognition and power connections. They were curtious to him, at best. It wasn't until he Iowa that they took him serious. But by then, his message took hold and he had momemtum. It's an interesting lookback to read these old articles.
Brokered for Obama? not even close. Clinton was their girl and they KNEW with her they had the White House. It was her race to lose and she lost it. Not the DNC. She had the wrong message and the wrong strategy.
Posted by: Really? | May 20, 2008 6:01:28 PM
really
you all keep harping on how high and mighty Obama is ... well there are a majority of democrats that will not vote for Obama and will only vote for Clinton and mccain if we have to... the game isnt over yet but you have been isntructed by your campaigns minions to act like its over/// some group of SDs may go over to Obama but there real job is to vote at the convention in august and I have not warmed in the slightest to Obama and will not be persuaded to...as well as sexism there is arrogance and a sortof dilitantism to both Obama and michelle... like michelle tried to relate to people in Ohio by decrying havign to pay $10 thousand for piano lessons! honestly... a majority of people in the country will not relate to that... they may be your idols and all you can do to back it up is criticize and demean Hillary and women and all other supporters of Clinton has gotten very very old... either Clinton will be the VP nominee or Obama wont get elected its that simple!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: informeddem | May 20, 2008 6:03:11 PM
Anders
I think the DNC was complicit in keeping the shady connections under wraps till the nomination is a foregone conclusion... that is precisely whuy the delegates from FL and Mi need to be counted as certified and that there needs to be a brokered convention ... because something else may come out!
Posted by: informeddem | May 20, 2008 6:09:28 PM
Obama thinks working class people cling to thier faith and love guns because they are bitter and mad. He seems to say they are not smart like he thinks he is.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 20, 2008 6:13:02 PM
Di
its not ust the sexism towards Hillary... its the burneing bridges attiitude these people have... you are supposed to run on a record... Obama was elected in the anti bush wave that started well after the iraq war began and none of the democrats none of them since then have done a thing except the minimum wage... they couldve defunded the war... and to reduce a campaign to trash talking to a brilliant woman that can take the job as president from the outset is just inexcusable... at this pint I think shes going to have to be like cheney for Obama... because he will screw up if he gets in and she knows what to do!
Posted by: informeddem | May 20, 2008 6:13:41 PM
Fox tries to be fair and balanced but get off track a little some times.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 20, 2008 6:15:20 PM
Joannie
Im not going to argue with you but you are wrong...and 50 percent of dem primary voters agree with me
Posted by: informeddem | May 20, 2008 6:23:50 PM
REALlY? THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING ANYWHERE IN ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY WHERE WOMEN ARE TREATED SO DESPICABLY.THE AMERICAN MEDIA JUST WENT FOR MRS. CLINTON'S JUGULAR AND LET ME TELL YOU, REALLY, NO SO CALLED MAN WOULD TAKE WHAT SHE HAD TO TAKE. AMERICA STILL THINKS THAT WOMEN BELONG IN THE KITCHEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO BRAIN AND THAT THE MOST THEY ARE SUITED FOR IS TO BE SECRETARIES. SHE HAS COURAGE AND GRIT THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE!!!
Posted by: Starlight | May 20, 2008 6:24:25 PM
Obama thinks he was chosen by a higher power to be the one. If voters do not vote for him, they are simply ignored by him like West Virginia and Kentucky.
Posted by: Anders Scooper | May 20, 2008 6:24:53 PM
joannie
well that means you arent goingto get your guy elected because only 50 percent of dems wont cut it... apparently you didnt take Poly sci!
Posted by: dem38 | May 20, 2008 6:30:19 PM
AutoCadSkills said, "So does this mean that people actually believe that this society is more biased against a white woman than a black man?"
Black men got the vote 50 years before any woman could vote, so you tell me?
Posted by: Charlie35 | May 20, 2008 6:33:39 PM
Obama will not win Joannie .. the GE that is
Posted by: dem38 | May 20, 2008 6:38:49 PM
Obama08 that is my story and I'm sticking with it.
Posted by: Thinking | May 20, 2008 7:05:13 PM
Here's a good example of sexism here in my state of Virginia. I saw a bumper sticker on a truck that said something about "life is a bitch, don't vote for one" with a picture of Hillary next to it.
So, that is apparently just fine.
Imagine if the bumper sticker had Barack's picture on it with the equally as horrible "n" word on it.
Sexism and racism are the same problem. folks,
Posted by: estelle in va | May 21, 2008 8:02:18 AM
I've seen this act before. When my 2 year old niece pooped her pants and refused to let her Mother change her.
Hillary has lost and now wants to let faulty views of the people of MI and FL count in the vain hope that she can somehow stop/change the rules.
She embarressed herslef and now the women who supported her.
EVERYONE see's through her bull in regards to FL and MI and the polls show that people in both states know she is only screaming for their "rights" in an attempt to further her own agenda. Otherwise? She could care less about them.
Posted by: Brian | May 21, 2008 5:31:47 PM
Here are a few examples of the sexism from the MSM.Just so you know it actually exists.
T-shirts bearing photos of Clinton and Obama with the slogan "Bros Before Hos" to Hillary Clinton nutcrackers sold in airports.
Chris Matthews ("the reason she's a U.S. senator, the reason she's a candidate for president, the reason she may be a front-runner, is that her husband messed around"); Mike Barnicle ("when she reacts the way she reacts to Obama with just the look, the look toward him, looking like everyone's first wife standing outside a probate court"); and David Shuster (Clinton "pimped out" her daughter, Chelsea, by having her call superdelegates.)
Senator Hillary Clinton for President, I cast my vote!
Posted by: michiganian33 | May 22, 2008 12:30:30 AM
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