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What Will the Edwards Endorsement Mean for Obama and Clinton?
May 14, 2008 6:46 PM
ABC News' David Chalian Reports: As the political world mulls the meaning (or lack thereof) in former Sen. John Edwards' endorsement of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., seven points to consider:
1. Endorsements don't really carry much sway with voters.
2. This comes on the heels of 48 hours of an intense media spotlight (and much discussion since the April 22 PA primary) focused on Barack Obama's apparent troubles wooing white working class voters to his campaign in large numbers. Edwards can likely serve as a high profile validator for Obama with those voters.
3. John Edwards recently said in some interviews that he was suspect about how much endorsements matter and that it appeared to him that Sen. Obama was quite likely to be the nominee.
4. This also comes on the heels of Sen. Clinton's huge victory in West Virginia. Her decision to do TV interviews with all the network anchors Wednesday afternoon was an attempt to parlay that West Virginia primary victory into a news cycle of mini-momentum if -- for nothing else -- than to raise some badly needed cash off of it. The Obama decision to roll this high profile endorsement out in time to be taken live on the evening newscasts is a clear attempt to steal Clinton's West Virginia thunder.
5. Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama sought Edwards' endorsement in person at the Edwards home in North Carolina.
6. Elizabeth Edwards in the past has said she would not necessarily feel obliged to support the same candidate her husband chose to support. She will not be a part of her husband's endorsement, and Mrs. Edwards has been on the record endorsing Sen. Clinton's health care plan over that of Sen. Obama's.
7. Endorsements don't really carry much sway with voters.
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It means nothing. The dems have already shoot their own foot - they have no way out. What a pity to lose a general election in a year that any dummy could have won, but it was possible for the dems to pick up the only person they could find to lose.
On the other hand, the reps were able to find the only person on that side who is going to have appeal to the dems side.
Most "less-educated bitter" voters will go for McCain.
Posted by: fat cat | May 14, 2008 6:54:38 PM
This isn't news. It's been known for weeks and maybe months Obama is the presumptive Democratic nominee.
Edwards endorsement only amplifies that fact.
Great News
Posted by: Vanessa | May 14, 2008 6:57:00 PM
This endorsement doesn't mean anything. I'm trying to figure out what these people are drinking. The reason why Edwards didn't do as well in the primaries is because people remember the last election. Hillary might want unity for the Democrats but so much hurt and dissing has been going on that it will be hard for unity. I think independent candidates will draw more voters this year than last time. As a Hillary supporter, everytime something like this happens to change the subject from what Hillary is doing, it angers me to no end.
Posted by: Lois, California | May 14, 2008 7:04:47 PM
It means one thing, if Edwards ever runs for office again, there is no way that I will believe he is for the working person, or the poor. If he was, he would have endorsed Hillary.
I hope people will remember these people in the future and when they go on their politcal speech making trips, their words aren't worth 2 cents. Just politcal talk.
Edwards is just like other rats who have jumped ship, full of hot air.
Posted by: Mickey | May 14, 2008 7:07:36 PM
ONE LOSER ENDORSING ANOTHER LOSER. Edwards is trumped by PEOPLE POWER.
The West Virginia resounding defeat of Obama was an expression of PEOPLE POWER that proclaimed Sen. Clinton is the Democratic presidential nominee. The PEOPLE POWER of Sen Clinton's victory trounced the pro-Obama biased media. Superdelegates who are endorsing Obama daily in an end run around the Democratic nomination process to swipe the nomination for Obama should ponder seriously the PEOPLE POWER that buttresses Sen. Clinton. Edwards, Obama and his superdelegates are taking the Democratic Party down the path of a train wreck in November.
Posted by: crat3 | May 14, 2008 7:12:24 PM
LOL whatever...matters to LOTS of people....
Posted by: Brian | May 14, 2008 7:12:57 PM
When working-class people clearly expressed dislike one candidate overwhelming, how would Edwards, who claimed himself the one fought for working-class people, stand agaisnt the will of working-class people...
Unless he was not the one he claimed...
Posted by: True Truth | May 14, 2008 7:13:22 PM
Who's John Edwards? So he wants to be Veep - don't you mean Creep!
Posted by: Overland Trail | May 14, 2008 7:26:51 PM
SM-what's going on? how come the news isn't covering this???
Posted by: CJ | May 14, 2008 7:28:21 PM
Hillary will take it to the convention floor, she has taken Obama's thunder from his early election victories and once she wins the nomination will springboard into november. It ain't over till its over and that ain't till August. Obama's thunder is gone he's dragging in the fourth quarter. Don't look at the pledge or super delgate numbers look at the map amd compare the states hillary has won to the won obama has won then you can see that only she can win in November.
Posted by: al | May 14, 2008 7:29:21 PM
Shame on ABC for letting the Obama campaign control the content of the nightly news with their live feed. Hillary's remarkable victory in W.Virginia, and the exposure of serious deficiencies in Obama's electability, was wiped off the screen. Was ABC just manipulated or is ABC on the Obama bandwagon? Neither is acceptible.
Posted by: Jules Zysman | May 14, 2008 7:29:27 PM
Hillary is ahead in the popular vote as of last night. The DNC insiders awash in the Obama war chest are overturning the popular vote.
It means they lose in the general election. There will not be a united Democratic Party because of the misdeeds of the DNC. Let it roll.
McCain is not Bush.
Posted by: len | May 14, 2008 7:32:17 PM
So that polecat, John Edwards, endorsed Obama???? What's in it for him?? ROFLMAO - Bill Richardson must be shaking in his cowboy boots!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | May 14, 2008 7:34:59 PM
Edwards need a job, ever since he was on the losing ticket in 2004 he hasn't been able to win one election.
Now obama's in Michagen looking for their votes, that seems strange since he fought to prevent a democratic primary in Michagen, yea, thats what you call just plain rude. he's got some nerve. but don't worry the GOP won't let him off the hook that easy. There gonna say to the voters of Florida and Michigen oh yea now he wants your vote but in the primaries he fought to keep you from casting your vote. Stupid is what stupid does..
Posted by: al | May 14, 2008 7:36:57 PM
I think Edwards waited this long because he wants a job. It won't be VP, but it will likely be a cabinet appointment. If he was really on BO's bandwagon all this time, he would have come out before PA or IN, when it counted. It took NO COURAGE to endorse this late.
I don't blame the guy, but I stand by my assertion. The democrats are making a huge collasal mistake. The only way out now is to persuade Hillary to be on the ticket. And I am not sure she will do it, frankly, I don't know if I would. I don't see him winning.
Posted by: A reader in Georgia | May 14, 2008 7:44:13 PM
WELCOME jOHNNY BOY IT TOOK AWHILE , BUT IT WAS WELL PLAN ,HOW ABOUT BARACK PUTTING EVERYONE ON HIS CABINET.
THE QUICKER HILLARY BOW OUT , THE BETTER CHANCE SHE GETS A NICE POSITION IN OBAMA CABINET, AND EVEN PUSH SOME OF HER ISSUE , AND UNITE . TONITE IS A GREAT START.COME ON CLINTONS LETS GET TOGETHER FOR NOVMEBER.
Posted by: mary46 | May 14, 2008 7:45:13 PM
Vanessa is right. This has no news values. John Edwards couldn't bring voters and lost in his own state for John Kerry in 2004. He doesn't mean very much at all.
Mr.Green Barack Obama will not win this year. Too bad.
Posted by: minil | May 14, 2008 7:47:20 PM
Funny how all the men who failed in their Presidential bids have lined up behind Obama--Kennedy, Kerry, Richardson, Dukakis, McGovern and now Edwards! My take is that Edwards' endorsement is a desperate attempt to save the man's face after a thorough spanking by the woman at WV.
It will have as much impact on Obama's chances with core voters as did the much-touted Kennedy (and Kerry)endorsement in Massachusetts where HRC won by 15%, and as Oprah's and Caroline Kennedy's endorsements had in California where HRC also won.
Poor Democrats! They hastily chose a nominee without vetting, just to spite the "Clinton dynasty?" only to find that he cannot get the support of core and necessary groups of the voters they need to win in November. A nominee who is mathematically ahead but who was chosen mainly by African Americans, college students and their professors.
Now they scramble to help him in a futile bid to avert an inevitable defeat for the Party in November with an Obama candidature. Poor Democrats!
Posted by: adellani | May 14, 2008 7:47:50 PM
i have one better john edwards supreme court justice.
first person Obama appoints for supreme justice. Mr. John Edwards.
compassion and understanding.
Posted by: henry | May 14, 2008 7:48:23 PM
Why would Hillary want to sully her image with working class voters just to do all the work as VP to Obama? You know he'd be calling on her for help (like he did in the debates) and then take credit for her wisdom.
Posted by: Kitty | May 14, 2008 7:48:50 PM
We have 14 weeks till the convention don't tell me that its too late to have an election in Florida and Michigan.
How do you win a national election when you fought to prevent the people of florida and michagen from casting their votes during the primaries.
Answer: You don't win, you lose. How do you tell people I want your vot in November when you fought to keep them away from the ballot box in the primaries. Does anyone know how you do that?
Posted by: al | May 14, 2008 7:50:56 PM
In the end, the DNC as well as Obama and his supporters, will reap what they have sown.
For sure, their harvest will be very, very bitter...
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | May 14, 2008 7:52:25 PM
3 republicans alread lost so far , doesn't matter who the democrat put up ,
people had enough of george bush and now McCain promise 4 more years to carry on his policy , not a chance.
John Mc-bush will get blown out , he is soo flawed he cant even carry the Republican base , Hucakbee and others keep getting the core votes in these end primaries.
Posted by: end-is-near | May 14, 2008 7:53:37 PM
It means the dems need to win...more than Hillary deserves some kind of birthrite...and Obama has garnered more votes even counting the two states (if you count the no choice in Michigan since his anme was not on the ballot)
and won every margin...
More Americans want Obama than Hillary.
Period.
That is the point...and Edwards is saying with whatever voice he has... don't be fooled or mislead...the primary is finished and dems need to win. Hillary did not win ...can not win more votes.
Too manu issues for her to keep pushing storylines that hurt the issues.
Posted by: dl | May 14, 2008 7:56:53 PM
I will not vote for Obama. He attended a racist church for 20 years. I am not racist, but I view him to be! I have no problem voting for a black man or woman, I just will not vote for this man, regardless of the amount of coloring in his skin. I feel that the media is responsible for favorably promoting him over others from the beginning. I am very frustrated over the fact that the media is saying that people are voting for Hillary because they are racist. I see Hillary as being the best candidate to win in the General Election. I am college graduate living in FL. Obama did not allow for a revote and chose not to place his name on the MI ballot. Some have said they are not concerned with losing women and working-class people from the Democratic party because they have plenty of new and younger voters to take their places. My loyalty to the party is waning because it seems that the party cares not about my vote or the votes of others like me. Hillary is the best candidate to win the GE and no one should be telling her to drop from the race. I hope she takes it all the way to the Convention, if needed. Go HILLARY!
Posted by: JD in FL | May 14, 2008 7:58:56 PM
Our egos can either add to what is precieved as an uncomfortable situation called drama or accept the situation as it is for the moment. When we put out negative energy we recieve negative responses. Breath folks. The partnering between the two candidates is not good or bad rather, it is what it is, "an endorsement".
Posted by: Words | May 14, 2008 7:59:40 PM
Wow, I'm impressed at how many uninformed and unintelligent comments are on here.
Even for a blog, it's pretty amazing how many people make claims that they don't back up with any facts or citations, and offer false rumors as proof of their misinformed opinions.
Posted by: Sioen | May 14, 2008 8:00:21 PM
Al why don't you tell Hillary to say yes to the stipulations that were laid at HER campaigns feet to count them or revote.
Both of which were very fair ...no she wants Michigan to count as is ...c'mon.
This is done...and everyone in the world besides a handful of Hillary supporters have woken up to that.
and that handful is just for some reason having a tough time putting what is right ahead of their own anger at not having their way.
sorry but that is the truth.
Posted by: dl | May 14, 2008 8:00:23 PM
Dear Al,
Nobody "fought" to keep Michigan and Florida from voting. Everyone knew what the rules were going into the primaries, and both Clinton and Obama agreed to them (in fact, Bill Clinton helped set them!). The powers that be in Michigan and Florida decided to break the rules. Clinton now wants to change the rules since she didn't win.
We are supposed to be a nation based on the rule of law, not Royal fiat. If you agree with our founding fathers, you then believe that the agtreed upon rules need to be followed by everyone. I can understand that you feel cheated out of having influence, however your anger should be directed at the State leaders who decided to break the rules. Ironically, had they had their primary election within the agreed upon time frame, you would have had even greater influence, but, like I said, we are a nation based on laws, not the whims of rulers.
Posted by: John | May 14, 2008 8:03:05 PM
Maybe Edwards can help Obama win KY...
If not, it just means even Edwards cannot fix Obama's problems...
Posted by: True Truth | May 14, 2008 8:03:46 PM
Why do you guys keep screaming about West Virginia? Ok, I congratulate Hillary on her West Vigina victory but we do not live in the United States of West Virginia!!!! We live in the United States of America (PERIOD)! West Virginia is a miniscule state with only 5 measley Electoral Votes!!!!! Obama has won over 30 States, has more pledge delegates, more super delegates, and more votes!!!!
So, stop saying that the Dems and Obama are stealing this nomination. They won it fair and square. West Virgina had their say. So did North Carolina, Illinois, Georgia, Missouri, South Carolina, Iowa, Connecticut, and the rest. If Hillary is the most electable candidate, why can't she win a simple nomination where she started with more money, generous press coverage, and a 100+ Superdelegate lead?? Why couldn't she close the deal given her massive head start? What has all of that so called experience brought her and her 20 million dollar indebted campaign? Sorry, but I'd rather have Obama, a man who knows what he's doing in the WHite House.
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 14, 2008 8:05:57 PM
JD in FL
your party cares about bringing the soldiers home.
Saving the planet
Getting the poor and disenfranchised healthcare
Women's rights
getting our standing back in the world
separation of church and state
the constitution
solving the housing crisis...not letting it "work itself out"
and so many other issues...
your party is the party if elected will bring the world back to the American table as an ally.
getting our education level competitive with the 50 countries thata re ahead of us...
so if you don't think you believe in your party because they didn't cowtow to the old boys netwrok and Hillary Clinton...
then I feel bad for you.
and vote out of spite but it won't be the right thing to do...and somewhere deep inside of you ...you (all) know that.
but it does feel good to vote out of anger I guess... too bad it won't feel good in 4 years.
Posted by: dl | May 14, 2008 8:06:27 PM
Obamaknew...
...but you didn't.
wake up.
Posted by: dl | May 14, 2008 8:08:51 PM
Another attempt to run Hillary out of the campaign.JE is another smooth talking opportunistic politician who wanted to time his endorsement for perfection.Running out Hillary is going to backfire for the Democratic party who are arrogant,sexists and snobish.BO is too arrogant and snooty and dismissive.In Hillary Clinton we have seen the most combative resilient and fighting spirit we have ever seen in a woman who has stood up to the elitist sexist party and the media and stood eyeball to eyeball with men.Too bad the Democrats can't see past thier noses and elect this truly amazing, courageous woman. In her speeches last night and today she has also shown grace and magnamity not seen in her arrogant opponent.The elitist and sexist Democratic party should be taken to the cleaners.Men for women and women for womn should rise. It is time for independents and fair minded Democrats to say enough is enough and don't belittle women any more.The ubderhand way BO has set about in trying to boot HRC while playing true in public is typical of BO that Americans have yet to see.Race is not a factor and color is certainly not a factor, but, this man is a true phony, who is taking the Americans for a ride.
Posted by: Warren5678 | May 14, 2008 8:10:58 PM
The arrogant elitist Democratic party will never select a woman to be a President. The Deans and the Pelosis ( nasty catwoman), the Kennedys and the kerrys will never have it.It is time to say no the Democrats.Thow out the best ever, yes, the best ever Presidential candidate and we will throw you out.HRC, the way you have taken on your opponenents head on in their own back yards, even winning media admiration is truly amazing. You are a woman of true grits and steel. I salute you.
Posted by: Warren5678 | May 14, 2008 8:17:55 PM
@DemocratsUnited - Not only his word, but several others. Maybe you should check out talk radio sometime and listen to what the Right-wingers are talking about. They have interesting plans for Obama. It just might set your hair on fire. Furthermore, from what I have been hearing, Obama's scandals are far jucier and newer... lol.
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | May 14, 2008 8:18:08 PM
John,
I agree with you 100% Clinton does not have a prayer in Oregon. There are too many Educated, Latte Sipping, Starbucks going, Prius Driving Elitist living in that state. She insulted them a great deal.
This will be Obama's West Virginia. That is going to be the big prize next tuesday and will have twice as many delegates as West Virginia in play. The thing is, Clinton may have had a chance in West Virginia, if she had let the bitter comments pass. She should have accepted as a mispeak and moved on. She would have won Pennsylvania anyway. Everyone knew it was going to happen. But she insulted a great many Americans with her own ambitions and now, when she needs them again in Oregon, they will not be there to deliver :(
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 14, 2008 8:18:51 PM
Mickey,
You are right.
Especially his hair costs $400.
Posted by: catleya | May 14, 2008 8:27:05 PM
@DemocratsUnited - Sorry you don't listen to talk radio - it could give you some idea of the Republican's game plan - which is why I listen to the other side... The media won't touch it, I agree, but those 527 groups will, not to mention those other videos that are out on the net. It will be the drip, drip, drip effect. Too many people saying the same thing and people will begin to believe their is some truth to the rumor. Not good at all.
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | May 14, 2008 8:32:11 PM
Can the latte-drinking, pot-smoking and arugula-eating Obamamaniac enlighten me why Edwards's endorsement is at all relevant?
He's joined a long list of wannabes: Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Howard Dean, George McGovern, Bill Richardson, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson & his son, Chris Dodd...
How many of them was elected President?
How many of them was elected President twice?
How many of them ever lifted a finger for the middle class whose cause they claim to champion?
If they are waiting for the middle class to become as poor as the poor before offering them any help, I certainly want them to say it loudly on television (instead of laughing at the "poor, ignorant" Whites at some party hosted by Nancy Pelosi somewhere off limits to the media---such as that place in San Fran where Mr. Obama ridiculed tens of millions of them).
Edwards Home County's Largest
http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=3848
http://www.johnlocke.org/site-docs/images/edwardshouse-low.jpg
Posted by: Brent | May 14, 2008 8:32:12 PM
I think I agree with #1.
Endosement don't really carry much sway with voters.
Posted by: catleya | May 14, 2008 8:35:24 PM
It won't mean much to Hillary supporters. Obama evidently needed a high profile endorsement to take away the spotlight of Hillary trouncing him in West Virginia Tuesday. Did he offer Edwards the Vice President slot? Why did Edwards tell Larry King on May 12, to let the voters make the decision? Today is May 14. That is a sudden turn-a-round. Is that why it was a surprise on the evening news tonight? Is that why Elizabeth was not with him? Obama needed Edwards in Michigan to make his pitch for working class voters. Perhaps it was planned long ago. In either case, Edwards is double-talking, too. Just like Obama.
Kerry/Edwards--Losers
Obama/Edwards--Losers
Sorry, Elizabeth.
Bill Richardson must be so disheartened at this point. He had such high aspirations. It's okay. You would not have won in November either.
Posted by: georgia | May 14, 2008 8:35:44 PM
@lucy | May 14, 2008 8:07:20 PM
Wow, you nailed it beautifully. Thanks.
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | May 14, 2008 8:38:20 PM
What do these Super D see on him to be on his side.
Do they know him well?
Posted by: catleya | May 14, 2008 8:38:29 PM
@DemocratsUnited - Non-issue? Can you say "swiftboat"?? I think you are going to get schooled if Obama wins this nom. Remember, the MSM has not really looked into anything about Obama. If I was Obama, I would spend a little time thinking about "spin and innuendo." Just saying...
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | May 14, 2008 8:47:44 PM
Catleya,
The Super Delegates see three things:
#1, He has an insurmountable lead in delegates. He has created a massive fundraising machine that is uprecedented, giving him enormous resources for the GE.
#2, Everyone who has served with him know him to be an honorable person. Even McCain and other republicans have said this. The problem is that they KNOW HILLARY. That KNOW that she is someone that will eat her young for a political advantage. Ask Al Gore and John Kerry.
Trust me, they decided to endorse Obama once they realized that she could be beaten. This serves as payback for all the nastiness that she has done to her own brethren in her fight for political power.
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 14, 2008 8:48:04 PM
LeeLee07,
Clinton has tried to "Swiftboat" Obama many times in this campaign and look where that's gotten her. In many ways, I thank her because this process has made Obama even more stronger. He will surely beat McCain. Oh, and BTW, the dems are prepaired for the swiftboats this year.
Oh, and let me school you a little. In order to run an effective "Swiftboat" campaign, No one has to see it coming. It has to catch the target off guard. WIth this being on the internet and talk radio for months now, can you honestly say that the massive machine Obama has created will not be ready for this? That would be beyond idiocy.
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 14, 2008 8:52:33 PM
Whenever the people sends a signal to the party about their decisions, the party immediately send someone to bring silence.
Is this the party you want to be affiliated with? It is the party on the top which never wants to hear from you until election time. Even in election time, you are nothing but figures and MATH which has been manipulated.
That is why the working class leaving the party?
There is a need of a third party for the middle class. There should be a third choice. Yes, the LABOUR party.
Posted by: John_Lai | May 14, 2008 8:57:10 PM
well, it will anger clinton supporters and turn them farther from the party.
Posted by: tony | May 14, 2008 8:57:17 PM
Sluggo,
How much HillaryJuice have Clinton supporters been drinking? Have you seen the vile things they have been posting?
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 14, 2008 8:57:50 PM
To DemocratsUnited-
Let me "school" you:
It's not "even more stronger." It's just "stronger."
And the correct spelling is "prepared."
Posted by: Karen | May 14, 2008 8:59:44 PM
@DemocratsUnited - Clinton has not been able to campaign effectively because Obama and his surrogates cry racism everytime something critical of him is said. Fact. Obama has been running from Hillary since the last debate and really needs to grow a pair. This has not even been a campaign, just a love fest for your boy. I don't think you can school me - I've been through too many campaigns. lol. Since you are so confident that Obama is untouchable then I'll just wish you both good luck and be on my way... lol.
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | May 14, 2008 9:00:36 PM
John_Lai,
Please provide a basis for your arguments. First off, what clear signals have been sent to the party? Are they just suppose to accept W.V. as holier than though and disregard the rest of the (over 30) states tha voted for Obama? Are they suppose to ignore his popular vote lead? Obama had 11 landslide victories in a row, and a total of about 20 landslide victories. Hillary has had about 5 total landslide victories.
I know you are upset about Clinton losing this nomination when at first she was all but guaranteed the spot, BUT THE VOTERS HAVE SPOKEN. They are saying that Clinton is OUT and Obama is IN.
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 14, 2008 9:03:31 PM
Posted by: Karen | May 14, 2008 8:59:44 PM
@Karen - Thank You!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | May 14, 2008 9:05:55 PM
endorsement doesn't make me change my mind and vote for obama.
If obama gets the nomination, I'd rather see Clinton back in the senate than be he his VP to cover for his lack of experience and also get her supports to vote for him (people are not fool).
If Clinton runs independent I'll support and vote for her. If she doesn't run as President. I'll vote for McCain over Obama.
Posted by: giz | May 14, 2008 9:06:53 PM
To the Posted by: Lawrence | May 14, 2008 8:50:57 PM
We shall never come over it. You are wrong that OBAMA is black. He isn't. The black community has set themselves up as the clowns of the year.
He is just an empty suit pushed out to make a fool of themselves. This is a very weak candidate which does not win the nomination and makes no attempt to win by effort; a sly politician who is a mockery of hardworking Americans.
This is the one who wants to turn the WHITE HOUSE into DARK HOUSE. This is the one who wants to put the country into shame; imagine that Michelle could be a fist lady makes U puke.
Say it with me:
NOBAMA.
The dog next door will be a better choice. It has more charm than those bunch of hypocrites.
Posted by: John_Lai | May 14, 2008 9:09:53 PM
@giz - I will vote for McCain over Obama too. No way is Heinz57 getting my vote - even if he is wearing a flagpin and standing in front of a cross! ROFLMAO!!!!
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | May 14, 2008 9:12:00 PM
go hillary. we know that you are strong. we will NOT vote for obama in november. lol. this is great. obama's endorsements are now more about "damage control" than anything else. all of the super-d's cant just endorse him at once or we will think she was shoved out, but the "trickle" endorsements dont work either because we know the deal. sorry dudes - a lot of us wont vote for obama.
ps: before you wave the racism flag - i'm black. before you wave the "roe v wade" flag, read planned parenthood v casey and then read my lips: i dont care! lol.
Posted by: tony | May 14, 2008 9:13:05 PM
Democratsunited,
You said Everyone who has served with him know him to be an honorable man.
Who they are?
I thought those SD they just know him since the election started?
My opinion is they don't want Hillary because she is too brilliant and tough and they think she may not be their
puppet.
Do you agree?
Posted by: catleya | May 14, 2008 9:16:59 PM
To DemocratsUnited-
The Obama supporters are supposed to be the educated ones. At least, that's what you all shout about. I was just trying to help.
When the Obama supporters on political blogs like this stop insulting the working class, I'll stop putting you in your place.
Posted by: Karen | May 14, 2008 9:20:00 PM
I just read through many of these blogs and I have to say it is really sad that there could be so much hatred and bitterness. I mean do you guys hear yourselves? You are down right cruel! How can any of this be productive? If this is the mentality that you all live your lives by, I wonder how successful any of you really are? You all come across as low-lives! And I mean all of you! I don't care if you're for McCain, Clinton, or Obama...what you write is so nasty, I really wonder how far we have REALLY come as a country!
Something for all of you to think about.
Posted by: shocked | May 14, 2008 9:21:46 PM
ohh wow..obama wears the flag lapel pin 3 days in a row. The flag pin somehow just doesn't look right on him. what a hypocrite!! he is new politics?? "he's just doing what he needs to do as a politician". At least Wright is right on that one.
Posted by: hannah | May 14, 2008 9:23:24 PM
When people speaks by their votes, the party should listen and tries to understand, they should take the time to see into the matter and avoid over-generalization, labeling, and contradicts.
We have seen politicians sending out by the party to tell people to end the election which is an equivalent statement telling us that your votes don't count and your voices shouldn't be heard.
The party is not sympathetic but eccentric enough to go against the people. In general election, this will not be forgotten and forgiven. Like hell, everything in the world starts from something personal.
We have been touched by this lady. She reaches our heart and cannot be denied. This guy, OBAMA, is a stranger now and he shall pale. Hillary cannot heal the wound of the voters; believe me, we are no fools and we are not blind-folded into supporting a gallant effort.
You try to shut up our voices, and we shall turn this guy into McGovern.
It is as simple as this!
Posted by: John_Lai | May 14, 2008 9:23:36 PM
@Catleya - I bet all of those Chicago tenants that Obama ensured had "natural" air conditioning for 3 months in the dead of winter think that he is extremely honorable! lol.
A Proud, Black, Hillary Supporter
Rise, Hillary, Rise!'08
Posted by: LeeLee07 | May 14, 2008 9:25:31 PM
It is big no two ways about it. Hillary can't even enjoy her big win. Couple it with, what, 12 more suppers today, things couldn't be worse for Hillary.
Her tone indicates that she knows it.
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | May 14, 2008 9:25:47 PM
Democratsunited,
I have lots of friends live in Oregon.
It is suppose to be close I think.
Yes, they have young college students but lots of retired people also.
Some young woman,man also go to Hillary.
It's not easy also for Obama.
That's why he has been working very hard on Oregon.
Posted by: catleya | May 14, 2008 9:28:51 PM
To Kim,
Well said.
Posted by: Karen | May 14, 2008 9:30:15 PM
catleya,
Obama has been working very hard everywhere except West Virginia. Think about it. A Black Man who is a first term senator from Illinois came from a 25 point national poll deficit 5 months ago and is now on hos way to winning the democratic nomination. And he did it without going too negative. One does not achieve this by NOT working hard. Oh, and the latest polls show Obama with a 20 point lead there.
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 14, 2008 9:33:48 PM
Not all people who failed at the presidential bid has backed Obama, yet.
Hillary will soon enough though.
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | May 14, 2008 9:34:48 PM
John Edwards couldnt deliver his state last time for Kerry as his VP and isnt even a super delegate.
His delegates are also free to vote for whomever they chose in Denver.
Posted by: s.b. | May 14, 2008 9:38:00 PM
Is Edwards now willing to accept Obama's voting present 130 times, he sure made a big deal about it in the debate, guess it does not matter now.
Posted by: SJ | May 14, 2008 9:46:53 PM
Lots of Republicans here today, trying to convince people that they're Democrats.
Won't save 'em in November, though. The vast majority of Democrats are going to make sure that McCain isn't elected.
He's far too scary a candidate for America, and most Americans don't want two more conservative supreme court justices and more war.
Posted by: Mark Kraft | May 14, 2008 9:47:13 PM
OBAMA lose by landslides after the party with their not so super delegates running out to cover for him.
The people will never stop. We shall insult the rotten party again and again by giving landslide losses to their choices.
Going into general election, their nominations are crowned with losses by more than 40 points; this certainly help their election.
If they dare to shut up our voices again, the very first election, we shall make sure that their candidates take a dive.
McGovern certainly endorses BO because they are just the lot.
See who is going to get the last laugh. The party leaders should all resign after the loss of century owing to their eccentricity; turning a sure win into avalanche losses.
Again we elect people to be president; the one who can show us the dedication. In this campaign, we see that this lady is going to loss many million dollars, many working hours, and she have turned lethal enemies into supporters.
We are deeply touched by the knighty effort from a gallant lady who put the ducking OBAMA into shames.
She charms the heart out of you. This is the caliber that BO can never match; a skittish actor behind the podium making 57 states out of the Divisive States of America.
There is nothing more sexy than salute to a lady in every morning. Saluting to a war hero is the next alternative.
NOBAMA.
Posted by: John_Lai | May 14, 2008 9:47:24 PM
Almost Heaven!!! West Virginia gave HILLARY 73%, OBAMA 19% proving once again that Hillary wins all the swing states and is the more electable candidate for the General Election!
Now, I have to say it was one sneaky move for Obama to have the endorsement of John Edwards to take the momentum temporarily out of Hillary's campaign, but at the end of the day, voters don't bother about endorsements too much, otherwise they would have made a noise over Hamas endorsing him too! He needed to use the reputation of Edwards to get the white working class voters who have always supported Hillary. Just like he's had to plagiarise, steeling every idea of Hillary's, claiming them as his own. But what you are not hearing about is where his campaign fund have come from, or the fact that the Rezko trial is ending...when it does the truth will come to the surface. Keep an eye on it here http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/search?q=RezkoWatch+Electability+2008
because it is high time Obama was exposed for the crook he is! Damn DNC saying be nice about Obama, he is a loose cannon! Hillary has the POWER OF THE PEOPLE!
Posted by: Di | May 14, 2008 9:48:36 PM
To think those two are the same persons that have MI voters in a mess now, but there they are in MI making this big endorsement.
Not one word as to how they will fix the problem of the MI voters, they were both to chicken to leave their names of the ballot with Hillary but they run to MI to show their support for each other.
The voter of MI must be really dumb to have Edwards and Obama play them like that.
Posted by: SJ | May 14, 2008 9:51:20 PM
Karen. I am working class and I support Obama. I wish she would stop saying that she has the working class voter.
I am 60 make 51,000, and raised 6 kids on this single salary, have 7 grand kids and lived in the same house for 33 years, paid for now. Yea and white.
That is about as middle class as one can get.
I see some ridiculous bashing on both sides of the aisle here. These are blogs, some people are here just to raise the hair on the back of our necks anyway.
Obama08
Posted by: Thinking | May 14, 2008 9:53:39 PM
Final Thoughts...
This has been a long and extraordinary six months. The rules of the game were clear and understood at the beginning of the game. There were originally eight candidates in the running for the democratic nomination. Now, there are only two. While I think both Clinton and Obama would make excellent Presidents, It has become very clear who has won.
Obama has gained an insurmountable lead in delegates. He has massively outraised Clinton, and has racked up plenty of endorsements. You all can cry foul all you want, but at the end of the the day, he won. There are very few fouls in politics. The voters are the referees and when fouls are committed, the candidates are penalized.
I know that there are millions of upset Clinton supporters out there. But the fact is that there are more people that voted for Obama. At the end of this process, even when you include Michigan and Florida, Obama will still have the lead in votes and delegates. That is democracy. I know that there will be sour grapes, but that is Human Nature. The fact is that Obama and Clinton are the same on a big majority of the issues. Obama has managed to bring in millions of new voters to the democratic party and has rewritten the book on fundraising.
Posted by: DemocratsUnited | May 14, 2008 9:56:36 PM
If the Clintons (plural) don't get the nomination, I'm voting for McCain because I feel so deeply about the "issues."
Posted by: x32792 | May 14, 2008 9:56:57 PM
Guess what Edwards' endorsement accomplished? It's all about the TIMING! At exactly 6:30 eastern/5:30 central time they went live with the endorsement at an Obama Ral



