Am opinion of 1996. c'mon ABC know you are pro-mccain but you can surely do better. That ad was beautiful and undelines the differences between Mccain and Obama. Mccain ad's are archaic and goes with his age. obama is for the future

Am opinion of 1996. c'mon ABC know you are pro-mccain but you can surely do better. That ad was beautiful and undelines the differences between Mccain and Obama. Mccain ad's are archaic and goes with his age. obama is for the future

Keith Olberman perfectly defines Mccain. Highlighted all his flip-flops. I will add one more. In 2004, Mccain condemned the attack on John Kerry but in 2008, he has now endorsed the attack but putting up a member of the Swift boat veteran as a member of the Truth squad.

Obama: "I was against it before I was for it. Now I am for it". It won't be long before he is saying the same thing about the war, about NAFTA, and about whatever lie he needs to tell to try to get elected. It is clear that Obama has now backbone and is definitely not about politics as usual -- they don't ever usually get as gumby-like as this guy. Let's call him O'gumby instead.
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O'gumby -- the architect of bittergate!!
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They call him Flipper.

So what? It's TWELVE YEARS AGO.

Most Americans would've been okay with a "Texan" from a rich Connecticut family becoming president twelve years ago.

But today - after Bush Junior - not a SINGLE American will ever hold that opinion again...ever.

Things change. Live and learn.

How about a few more articles about THAT?

Obama changing his stance again for political posturing? Oh, no, can't be! This is the candidate of 'hope" and "change"! Oh, I get it, he "hopes" you won't notice how many times he "changes" his position to suit the audience, the polls, the prevailing winds, whatever. This guy is the biggest fraud to come down the pike in the history of this country. Wake up.

Obama is full of S...t
He is an opportunist with no honor, turth, experience or integrety. His close friend and advisor (not the fundraiser that just got convicted, or the other guy, the 60's radical bomber who wished he'd done more) but Jerimiah Wright, was right when he said Obama would denounce him for political reasons.

No one really knows what he stands for, since his "change" message flip flops as the situation calls for it.

McCain is the only candidate of integrety, honesty, and experience left in the race.

vuzous: Could you please post a link to where McCain now says he supports the "swiftboat" attacks on Kerry? I remember McCain vigorously defending Kerry in 2004, need to see for myself that he now supports those attacks. Thanks.

Double-talker, backpedaler, change artist. You have your choice--either way--what he said last week or what he says today. Change you can believe in!

Oh the irony!

"During a 1996 interview with the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Obama could not conceal his disappointment in his fellow Democrat. "Bill Clinton? Well, his campaign’s fascinating to a student of politics. It's disturbing to someone who cares about certain issues. But politically, it seems to be working," said Obama."

Hah!!!

This man changes his mind as often as a baby needs its diaper changes and the democrats think they can win with this poor excuse for a man

George W McCain has morphed from a "straight-talkin' maverick" eight years ago...to a Bush Republican Clone today.

A complete ONE-HUNDRED EIGHTY DEGREE FLIP-FLOP.

And this minor thing gets in the news?

Must be a SLOOOOOOWWWW news day.

Obama shifting? Beware cause it is not the last shift either.

Obama will shift again if he becomes President ...

Obama is saying whatever he needs to win.

He abandoned his preacher, the Rev. Wright.
Why is the Rev. Wright so quiet ... cause the Rev. Wright knows that Obama will never abandon him. He will return to the Rev., once he gets the Oval Office. The Rev. Wright will become his mentor again once he is in the Oval Office.

I am dying for a laugh at the Obamamaniacs when the final shift occurs.

How about unveiling a member of the swift boat veteran as a member of the TRUTH panel. you are all GOP suckers. face the REAL TRUTH.

ladies and gentlemen,

Lets give Obama his due. His one great gift, is inspirational rhetoric. If he were in sales, (as I am), he'd be a top salesmen making up to 1 million dollars a year. He is able to say whatever the buyer needs to hear to feel good about buying.

But, folks, we've all been sold before and in the end, we regret that we were sold. And do we want this sort of salesmen giving us the state of the union, or someone who will be real with us?

Think about what he says and doesn't say, his lack of specifics. See how he is not straight forward, can you trust that? Notice how he does not speak nautually from his heart, but cold and calculated, as thought scripted, how does he feel? Does he really care about people, does he really care about you?

Inspiring speech is uplifting, but we need leadership that's been around, that specific and clear, straightforward, honest, and caring for all americans.

Folks think about it, our only real choice is
John McCain......

JOHN MCCAIN 08

Obama does not care about anything or anyone, He just running in races and winning.

Someone get the man a sack race.

NOT A GOP SUCKER HERE BEFORE I VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN MY POCKETBOOK HAS TO GET A HELL OF A LOT FATTER THAN IT IS NO MCBUSH HERE

Vuzous,
I have nothing to do with the GOP. I'm an embarrassed Democrat. If you had an ounce of sense you would be embarrassed as well. The guy is an opportunistic, double-talking, flip-flopping, limousine-ridin', latte drinking, arrogant, elitist liberal willing to do or say anything or the opposite of anything to anybody to try to sucker a vote out of them. Anybody that votes for the guy is exactly that, a sucker. Are you voting for him?
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Obama, the architect of BitterGate!!!!
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The only real Obama flip-flop and yes I call it Flip-flop is the public finance issue. But as far as he is still being funded by the same public, I cannot fault him on that. As for gun that has always been his opinion and he defended that during the PA primaries. For Social security that is a flop created by ABC. On death penalty, it is well documented and supported in his book, Audacity of Hope. So what more? Another flip-flop that may be on the way is that of FISA and yes we are calling him on that but compared to Mccain, he far outclasses Mccain. Listen to Keith Olberman definition of Mccain.Giving dates and specifics.

Of course he flip-flops. Remember " Slick Willey " who made thirteen hundred campaign promises, kept ten and governed by the polls, lied to the American people with his pointing finger and to a grandjury. This crook was God to Liberals and now we have " Slick Obama " Silver tounged liar who is going to ride the Liberal's magic carpet right to the White House, so they beleive. It never fails to amaze me how good Liberals are at lying and you would swear they were on drugs cause no straight thinking person could beleive the things they do!

Yeah WestCoast,recognise you, Irma and Alpaig as one of the most vocal Hillary supporters. Cannot force you to support Obama but mccain? He is a war hero i recognise that but it is hypocritical of him not condemning GOP attacks. He did not strongly condemn the attacks on Michelle and he is now crying foul with General Wesley's attacks.

vucous: Now I see the problem - you're a Keith Olbermann junkie. He is the most biased Obama cheerleader on the air, you really need to get out and see the real world for a while. By the way, a few months ago, Keith gave one of his tirades about Bush and FISA, now he's done a 180 degree turn because Obama all of a sudden supports it. Oh, yeah, Keith Olbermann, real integrity in TV "journalism" - NOT!

And you must be a fox associate. I dont rely on one media but a host of medias. CNN is the only fair media. ABC is pro-mccain, cant even mention false news and definitely NBC is pro-Obama. You call me an NBC junkie and yet you also went to NBC to listen to Keith. I guess you reason just like Mccain.

This is one of the most anti-Obama biased articles I have ever read. Every paragraph contains a distortion of the facts. Shame on you ABC.

That's my Obama. He will change his mind on Iraq tomorrow if they tell him it's going to guarantee a win in November. The man has zero conviction. None. Nada. Zip. I hope no world leader picks up on the fact that Obama will sell this country to the highest bidder. It's not questioning his patriotism, I'm just stating a fact. Obama loves this country as long as they vote him into office. If he loses in November, I advice that they have prozac ready for him. He's going to go on a Americans are a bunch of racists tirade. Because we all know that only racists would dare disagree with his crazy policies. Color me racist because I think his policies would be disastrous to this country.

he does not know what the hell he's talking about. He shifts his positions about twice a day. How can the American voter know what he stands for? He's a nothing, someone who has been in the Senate for some 147 times. and has voted present most time which means nothing. He will make American a 3rd rate country just like th4e ones he lives in in his youth.

And what qualifies Mccain to be President? Calling another President lousy?and yet he is seeking the same office. Obama flips is small compared to Mccain. Mccain flips like a fish.

ABC the house organ of the Republicans!! After the berbeque thrown by Sen Mcain or did I say Mcsame?, the ethics of fair joutrnalism was compromised. I never thought in developed Nations bright people can be bought with cheap beer and meat!! shame on the whole ABC fraternity. You are disgrace to modern journalism. I think you can do well in Zimbabwe as Mugambe cheer leaders too!

Another Flip Flop what a suprise!

He shifts... he scores!

He will move to the middle and say he's always been there... he might even believe it himself.

I don't know if McCain has a chance against someone who will say anything to get elected. And an electorate so eager to hear it.

But maybe truth will win over hype... I hope it will.

It's a great ad!!!

The article stated "Obama's transformation from opponent to champion of welfare reform is the latest in a series of moves to the center. Since capturing the Democratic nomination, Obama has altered his stances on Social Security taxes, meeting with rogue leaders without preconditions, and the constitutionality of Washington, D.C.'s, sweeping gun ban." Well DUHH!!! Each of these changes in position came as a result of public polling - he doesn't have a position, other than to say whatever is needed to be said to get elected... just lile ALL of the candidates.

It's three am... do you know what your position is, Sen Obama?

upcoming Obama Flip-Flops

1.I will not withdraw troops from Iraq immediately.

Now we know what Obama means when he says he's about change.

Little did we know he meant changing his mind. Many, many times.

President McCain - and it won't even be close.

And...Obama keeps rising in the polls.

Nobody cares about this ridiculous stuff. Americans only care that their country, reputation, economy, and military have been DESTROYED by the Republicans.

George W McCain is just more of the same. Old. Stale. And tired...

BARACK FLIP-FLOP "FAST EDDIE" OBAMA
OBAMA IS STILL MAKING IT UP AS HE GOES.
OBAMA THE APPRENTICE-NOMINEE

HE DEPERATEWLY NEEDDS THE CLINTONS NOW
I GUESS UNSPECIFIED CHANGE IS NOT ENOUGH

TJ, THE CLINTONITE, SAYING KEEP YOUR EYES WIDE OPEN AS HE FLIPS.

Republicans are now officially on the Endangered Species List.

Americans (and the entire rest of the world) can't wait for November!!!

PAYBACK TIME.

One of Senator Obama's very close friends once said to the locals of his ward when discussing Wal-marts building a new store near Trinity Church, "If you place profit over principle then you are nothing but a prostitute." This was in reference to the local people wanting Wal Mart to build a new store to make jobs in the area. This can also fit the political ambitions of "true" oportunist who will sell himself at whatever price just to get elected. They become nothing more than prostitutes to whomever they surreptitiously serve. Rev. Wright, you have a very good quote there and thank God for the internet so we can always see what you have said! Remember we, the people, are always watching and have a great memory.

It seems important to point out how the reasons behind the man's actions stay the same, though the ways of achieving the aims do sometimes change.

DNC - you are backing the wrong horse. Hillary must be having a good laugh. Bring back Hillary. It's not too late for the superdelegates to change the mind.

We'll he is the man of change...always changing his mind, but I like the I accidentally pushed the wrong button excuse, while he was a senator...What if he pushes the wrong button as president??? We are in deep trouble with this guy..

Clear that Obama changes his views when he needs to. He does not want to talk about the past because he would have to revisit decisions that he made before which are contrary to what he is "saying" he supports now. He is big on "change"

"It's not the welfare stance I knew," he said, distancing himself from himself.

Now he's supporting faith-based programs and welfare reform! That's not just a flip-flop, that schizophrenic. What does Obama's liberal base think of their candidates 'new kind of politics'? Change indeed.

ALL Poly tic ians do that including BUSH...when its election time......SO WHAT!!!

Hold the phones! Obama flip flops! This is news? Not really. This man can do no wrong with the press, so why not flip flop. Whether it's changing his position on NAFTA, public financing and the presidential campaign, welfare reform or his position on a pull out of troops, I have come to realize that Obama really is about change....but only when it concerns his platform. Wake up, folks.

I now give you the new title "Obama The Chameleon". This candidate has been flip flopping on so many issues, no wonder people don't know who he is or what he stands for.

I realize a candidate may alter some of his beliefs on issues as a campaign proceeds but, he has been doing 180's on many different issues. How can I or anyone as an Independent, vote for someone that continues to change his position with such regularity.

It is like talking to a used car salesman who will tell you anything just to sell you. He is further weakening his candidacy by the constant changing of his core beliefs on the issues. He also now agrees with Clinton on HER universal health care.

If he should get elected, what positions will he change after he is in office? I just can't believe anything he says anymore.

I like the wording "shift" - how about what it really is - Flip Flops - just like a broken promise on public funding pledge. This guy is a fraud. A wolf in sheeps clothing - he wears the same White Dress shirt everyday. He's a slick talking Lawyer by trade and a smoker. Haven't heard much about that have you.

It's like Obama's standing on a turntable. During the primaries, it served his purpose to be firmly facing the left side. Now that he's in the general election, he's in the middle. Do the people who voted for him in the primaries feel betrayed at all? He lied to you - he lied to all of us. He said he was representing 'new' politics to get people fired up and excited. The only thing 'new' about Barack Obama is his position on whatever issue it is he's talking on any given day. Shame on Obama and shame on anyone who continues to say he represents change.

Politicians historically have changed their opinions to satisfy voters; that is not an item even worth arguing. The issue with Obama is that his entire campaign is based on his character - he has said time and again that he is not a typical politician, yet here we are on the Obama turntable. I'll be curious to see how his views on the War on Terrorism evolve over the next four months.

And so what else is new, the same ole Obama, continues to flip-flop on important issues while his followers, who are dillusional, support him. This jerk will never be elected President. America will refuse him on that first Tuesday in November!

There needs to be a change in the welfare system. It is believed that people are selling their link cards for cash and the welfare system should stop the link cards and give the people $70 dollars more on their checks. And why is the government giving people big checks for adopting disabled children. When people adopt a child it is up to them to take care of that child not the government. I understand the person that adopts a disabled child gets a check for the child and herself or himself. One check for the child should take care of it. It is also understood that the reason people adopt these children is for the money and the government should put a stop to it. If the government can give money to those people they can raise the social security increase to 4.0% instead of 2.5%.

Deidra, Obama made his campaign a "character" issue by promoting "change". It's really sad that he has lied to America, and especially to his supporters. I will not vote for him in November.....God help us if he is elected!

So, if I'm reading this correctly, Obama was against the case load reduction or reform in 1996. We all know that social workers are overburdened with cases now and many, many people are abusing it. I agree, there needs to be reform, but what I don't agree with is that once again, Obama, lies and is just saying anything to get elected. He even went so far as to refuse to answer questions about reform. I swear, I have absolutely NO confidence in Obama, he's bad news!

It's fine to say mcCain has changed his stand on some issues but we are talking about BO & all his claim of not being your "typical" politician & this crap about "Change you can believe in". The only change is what he says from one day to the next. He is nothing but a hypocrite and opportunist. Pathetic.

CHICAGO - Reaching out to evangelical voters, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is announcing plans that would expand President Bush's program steering federal social service dollars to religious groups and — in a move sure to cause controversy — support their ability to hire and fire based on faith.

****I cannot believe this guy, Obama! Now he wants to mix religion and government! He says he believes in the Constitution, but I don't believe he actually does. He flip-flops, says one thing, does another. America doesn't need Obama in the White House. It's time to end his lies! America, stand up against Obama's double-talk! Enough is enough!

I am a Clinton supporter. Obama and Clinton have urged us to stop the bipartisan bickering and reach across the aisle. I'll be reaching across the aisle this fall and give McCain my only vote.

The fact is that Barack was one of 5 state senators that co-sponsored and put through new legislation in 1997 to comply with the federal welfare reform legislation of 1996.

Americans deserve who they get as President - it looks like you cant wait for 4 more years of the same.

The scary thing is Obama moves his positions more then anyone and only of course when it is politically good for him. Second the fact that he says he doesnt look at the past and only to the future underscores a big problem with him. If he doesn't look at the past then how can he know what types of polocies worked and which ones failed. He is already proposing Carter like policies which have been done in the past and showed to fail. Obviously he isnt looking at that past and that does not represent good judgement or leadership. We have to learn from our past so we dont make the same mistakes in our future. Obama doesnt take that into account in his own words.

Obama '08 slogan

Change you can believe in ........again and again and again

It's amazing how it is always partisan when it doesn't favor BHO! It's about time they start reporting the truth about this liar!

Obama has to flip-flop. He structured his message to target the bottom-feeders to gain the nomination, and now he has to change it again to appeal to the producers and free-thinkers to actually win the election.

It doesn't matter to his supporters if he doesn't have any core values or principles, they are not interested in facts or the truth anyway. His supporters are incapable of independent thought, so as long as Obama has an effective talking-points writer, the left will buy into anything he says or does, without question.

This is just getting weird. He is all over the place. Any chance before November we can pin him down on just one thing? Someone needs to tell him he is runnig for pres of the US, not high school class president. Has it come down to the only way he can win is to brainwash the youth of America. Is it the 18-25 year olds that are going to pick the next POTUS? Their life experience is equal to his work experience which is very little. Not only is this getting embarrassing for the democrats it becoming very frightening.

I'm pro-Obama and have been for a comparative long time. I also believe that it is good for somebody to learn and change their views. We'll see how this "shifting" all pans out.

Obama does represent change.

Constant change.

He changes every day.

Almost hourly.

This is another example of Obama flip flop and this is another reason that people should not listen to whatever Obama said but look at what he did. He flip flop about Public Funding, about NAFTA, and now this. He is a liar.

Why dont you wait and hear the whole speech before joining issues with anyone. In his speech, Obama will clearly separate Religion from Politics.All he will be highlighting is based on his work as a community organiser and the the role of Government in enhancing such values without mixing it with Politics.

Obama shift is towards the right directions. Mccain's is retrogressive. Now I support his decision to reject pubic financing. I think he is just trying to accomodate the whole DNC. The Democrats are flat in cash unlike the Republicans who have plentiful of cash reserves. The DNC needs money for convention and other things. Thus, any money raised now will be limited and therefore will not be readily able to support Obama. The NRA only is planning on spending $15m against Obama. Obama surely needs money to compete against all these attacks. Will surely be donating more.

The one fact this article fails to point out as well as many others fielding stories such as this, is that America and the world is a totally different place than 50 years ago, heck, even 20 years ago, and it requires a re-thinking of policies of the past and how they may apply to today's world. This is a huge problem, recently exhibited in the Supreme Courts decision on hand guns. The five justices in their final analysis of what the second amendment means, reached back into centuries old law that failed to take into consideration today's world, as the basis of their decision. Senator Obama seems to have the ability to recognize this, and while weighing policies from the past, recognizes that what may have worked 10, 20 or 40 years ago, may not necessarily be good for today's world and deserves revisiting. That is one factor to me that makes Senator Obama such an appealing candidate as a leader. While many label changes Senator Obama may lean toward as "flip flopping", I see it as an intuitive ability to rethink the past and apply common sense to today's world. If one want's to draw a parallel to my reasoning, just look at America's automobile industry. While America's big 3 have offered up what they think America needs, Toyota and others have steadfastly offered what American's and others throughout the world want according to today's technology and the real world situation. Now while GM, Ford, and Chrysler furiously try to bail bad decisions and policy out of the boat, Toyota judiciously and wisely rows toward the dock and are now near anchoring as the world leader. It's time American government does the same, put a leader in charge able to recognize the need for change and is not afraid of approaching policies aimed toward making those changes. Simply to change policies in midstream for the sake of political expediency, as John McCain tends to do, is not wise for America.

What logic? You have not read that the NRA guess you cant recognise what NRA stands for? National Rifle Association is spending $15m to fight Obama. They will air ad's in battleground states. They claim not to support Mccain but will be airing ad's on behalf of Mccain.

And you have not heard that the DNC is lacking when it comes to raising funds? where would you like me to clarify Mr LOGIC?

Hillary Clinton will surely now have been the best to fight this fight. Nevertheless,hope Obama picks her as the vice. The GOP are lacking when it comes to TRUST. After deceiving us on Iraq, they want us to suck-up more lies. NEVER AGAIN.

Anyone notice the koolaid is getting rather weak and tepid?
Can we say Change You Can Believe In?

Unfortunately, it turns out Obama is just another phony politician... so much for the lure that got me to vote for him in the primary.

I am supporting John McCain now.

if you want to vote for the only candidate who is capable of being the best President that our children, our troops and our country desperately needs right now, WRITE-IN SENATOR CLINTON!

I guess we all have the same opinions and views from 10-Ten-X-1998 years ago. People, get a grip! Who says that a person can't change their opinion about something? I would rather have someone who was willing to change instead of a bullheaded, stubborn, out of touch, bitter old war vet like McCain. The GOP can try ever trick in the book, bottom line is people want something different, and they are going to vote for something different in November.

people want change for the sake of change, not because it will actually do anything for them

is it any wonder that obama got so many votes in a country where American Idol is the top-rated show?

He made clear at the time, however, that he probably would have opposed the federal welfare overhaul. Speaking on the floor of the Illinois state senate, Obama described his on-going concerns as including a lack of job training, insufficient oversight, and provisions blocking legal immigrants from receiving benefits.

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The man thinks things through unlike other politicians.Made the best of a changing situation. Isn't what we are ALL doing with this current CHANGING economy. Rather than us fighting it we work within it.Duh, like he has. Obviously he knew it would be hard for people with no skills under their belt to survive when finances were taken from them abruptly.This is called being concerned about your felow human being. this is a CHRISTIAN characteristic. Any of you familiar with this.. oh I'm sorry you are always right.

Ok, here's the only thing i can say about welfare, make the poeple pass a drug test BEFORE picking up there checks. See, simple.

One of many changes in Obama- yes he is the candidate of change - he changes his mind every chance he gets . He expects us to trust him. What r we suppose to trust? Where is the policy , the solution ?/ We dont want excuses..we want results... Does he really expect people to just be happy that he is running - too too funny...
We dont care about his race..we do care about what hestands for and that keeps shifting so maybe we should just shift our vote to someone else...Signed, a proud Austrian-American. We can play that game too Barry !!

I beleive the reason Obama has so many people that love him and hate him is because he is probably the only candidate ever to really beleive in the teachings of jesus and actually follow on some of them.People complain about Obama's associations( people complained about the people Jesus was surrounded by as well).Open your bible if you are a Christian or not and read where they did not like Jesus being around tax collectors.This is one of republicans biggest arguements that Democrats want to tax.Oh yes the religious sect back then called Jesus's inner circle "sinners".Jesus also spoke a message of love for enemies and friends.Obama is reaching for a global goal to show all humans in every continent our bonds and spread a message of unity focusing on our similarities.He wants to stop conflict by finding common ground with our enemies or any reasonable agreement BEFORE we go to war.Obama is a new face that the world would more than likely trust more than his predecessors.Peace and understanding before war. Now what being from the bible is like that? Truth is Obama is a follower of Jesus and like Jesus, he has to speak in varing terms because he knows the hearts of the people he is talking to. Their hearts were hard when jesus walked the planet and their hearts are STILL hard when one of his followers is running for president.The one who is not ashamed to talk about him aloud. Barack Obama.

He changes all the time. One day he likes Michelle the next day he likes Larry Sinclair.

GOD will bring what is due the entire world when it is time.We get it everyday there is a day. Just look around you.We will get what he wants us to have. God is our father. And like a good father we can and will be rewarded and punished accordingly.He feeds and rains on the just and the unjust.Only a mind unaware of the righteousness of GOD doesn't understand that GOD is not always going to allow us to enjoy every experience.He has lessons to teach and sometimes it will be painful. There are things that GOD doesn't like and he will damn it.It IS in the bible. Read the Book of Revelations in the back of the bible. Read the message and stop attacking the messagers because we all have sinned and fall short of the glory of GOD.READ YOUR BIBLE .

Change I do, did and still beleive in. I honor McCain's service and I want Obama to serve as President of the United States.

TV - you need to CHANGE the channel!

Said alot more than that in the bible S. I know its hard to beleive for some people because thier is a force blocking your beleif. Just cause it seems far fetched doesn't mean it isn't real.Humans know how to clone animals. And the air that you breathe that keeps almost everything on this planet alive is something that cannot be touched or seen. Look I don't agree with everything in the bible, but there are many points of view that have been proven. You will change if it HE wants you to. Truth is I thought similar to you one time in my life as well and then the divine presence and time came to pass.These forces change things.

The Authors of this story should be ashamed of themselves. I thought I was going to see an ad which contradicts what Obama did and said in the senate and outside the senate (as an organizer)then and his position on those same issues now, but instead I saw an ad saying exactly what Obama did and said before, with no contradictions whatsoever. I do not see anything that suggests that Obama held a different position at the time or did anything which he is now saying he is not going to do (or disagrees with). If you people are just anti-Obama, please simply state that fact and stop bothering the American people with your campaign of misinformation. May I also suggest that you might make very good use of your time by joining the McCain smear campaign against Obama.

"I am not a defender of the status quo with respect to welfare," Obama said on the floor of the Illinois state Senate on May 31, 1997. "Having said that, I probably would not have supported the federal legislation, because I think it had some problems."

This sounds like Obama's position on absolutely everything. "I don't like what is, but I am against this legislation. I am both for it and against it."

Good grief, when are liberals going to get it?

obama sticks to his principles like he sticks to his church of 20 years.....oh, wait....

Hey normally I don't speak about my faith, but the Rev. Wright comment I read from someone on this sight evoked a response.And as a beleiver I realize that there may be a higher purpose to me bringing GOD into the conversation. Look God is written all on our currency and in our national pledge of allegiance....." One nation under GOD indivisible with liberty and justice for all." I feel inspired to speak and this is what is flowing.We need to have more faith in the Creator of all things instead of trusting that any one man is going to answer all of our problems.Man made security is an illusion.McCain may stop some terrorists but Obama may too, but neither of them can stop a flood, hurricane, tornado or earthquake and these things are REAL constant treats to our nation.What candidate can protect you from that? Neither. So please stop with the political spin tearing down both of these men.They sat side by side at Tim Russert's funeral so what does that tell you?

He (Obama) is just a better dressed used car salesman. Would you buy a car from this guy? Or the smooth operator at the end of the bar that will say anything not to go home alone at the end of the night.. The American people are just loony enough to elect this jerk on a false promise or a quick smile and we'll end up paying for it.

Let's all remember that since the Dem's have been in charge of congress the gas prices have gone through the roof, and instead of doing anything about it they complain about the war... We've already won that one so lets move on.

What a waste of my money and the countries time. .

I think I will take some of that advice to go visit a Christian website.That site would be more encouraging than all this focus on the so called "speck" in my brother Barack's eye.I really don't beleive GOD created us to be so critical of his creations.We should all be thankful that GOD is full of mercy and forgiveness.Many of us would not be here if he wasn't.

Thank You

Why are we all so shocked when a liberal changes their stance to benefit themselves? I've read a few comments just on this issue that reveal they have to shame or conscience. Anyone that disagrees with Obama is bias or racist. Why can't we question anything he or his wife say or do. How can anyone vote for someone with no integrity what so ever? Anyone that says McCain has no integrity is just lying to themselves and will continue to do so to advance their own ideolog and agena. I'm glad to see most of the people on this forum have come to their senses. Because if you ever read anything of CNN or CBS it's just the opposite. Very scary where were headed if this guy is elected.

Some of you amaze me. I don't suppose any one of you, who are calling names such as flip-flopper, towards either Obama or McCain have never changed your mind. Well it must be nice to be perfect and get it right the first time, every time. I don't expect either candidate to be perfect. I believe the resolutions to problems change as the problems evolve. I would hope that either candidate has the common sense to see that what may have worked a year ago, or 10 years ago, or even last month, may not be the appropriate solution TODAY. I don't know about you guys and girls, but the ability to keep an open mind, and be open to other ideas other than what you may have initially believed in, is an asset. By the way how many of you are still backing Bush and believing there really were WMD over in Iraq. Ohhh, I bet some of you flip-flopped on that. I know I did.

Is anyone really surprised at this point? Come on, really? We've seen this prognosticator of change do just that on way too many issues. He does not lie when he says he stands for change. His change however, depends on the crowd he is talking to. I happen to be one of the bitter, gun toting, church going, backwoods Pennsylvanians who does not believe a damn word that comes out of his mouth. Wise up people, our country will go to hell in a hand basket if this man is elected.

"we DESERVE CHANGE"

Wrong! We don't deserve anything. We work hard for what we strive for and the good Lord blesses us for our hard work.

"Again 95% percent of the time John McCain voted with George Bush 2007!"

Reason enough for me to vote for McCain! I love GWB!

These forces change things.

Posted by: TV | Jul 1, 2008 1:14:52 PM

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lol lol lol MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU!

The sound of all the Obamabots SHUFFLING with Obama to the Center is deafening.

Obama is for this...wait no he isn't wait---that's last year ...this year ...uh now he's not.

Abortion, Troops coming Home, and Drilling off sea.....are next.....

It's inevitable------->Cause Obama is a LIAR

They sat side by side at Tim Russert's funeral so what does that tell you?

Posted by: TV | Jul 1, 2008 1:29:54 PM

---------------------------Ah mm the only seats left. I guess politics as usual. Well maybe so they couldn't talk about each other.
Could be only one had a hankie to wipe the tears.
Well maybe they got to look up a woman skirt from those seats.
Okay God said sit you boobs and so they did!

Hey Everyone--it's the OBAMA DANCE

Shuffle to the Left
Shuffle to the Right
Shuffle all around and start again!

Come on all you Obamabots---You of all people know this dance!

Shuffle all around again til no one remembers where you start.....

But we remember where you started.
In Chicago, and you learned quick---
say and do anything to GET THE MONEY AND THE VOTE !

But what Obama hasn't considered is who and waht brought him up so fast can bring him DOWN FASTER----which is the

TRUTH

TRUTH WILL PREVAIL

And it won't be carrying Obama to the White House.

Next time you see that very expensive slogan CHANGE, (Obama paid MILLIONS to Axelord --great ad man that he is---who created it...actually rehashed from Deval....lol)

Anyways Next time you see the great CHANGE SLOGAN....

You'll hear the OBAMA SHUFFLE...

Shuffle to the left
Shuffle to the Right
Shuffle all around til you get the White House

Come on people, McBush and Obama are both professional politicians, what do you expect? Both parties want you to argue about the difference between candidates becomes it makes the system seem real. It isn't real, we will have politics as usual from both candidates. What will be different? McCain is going to throw out his cronie buddies after elected I don't think so!, Obama isn't going to pursue the democratic party agenda after hes elected - i don't think think we can expect any kind of change from any politician.

want real change that will effect your life? make sure the person you vote for commits to the fairtax.org then you will see serious change in America.

So Mr Klein,

You are saying that Barack Obama had some reservations about President Clinton reform but he ended up co-sponsoring a bill to implement the reform. However, he can't take credit for it because he clearly laid out these reservations in 1996 before endorsing the reform.
My god!, i don't know but this campaign is going to be a long one with this kind of reporting where facts are being used and twisted to fit a personal agenda

We have finally found a politician more arrogant than George W. Bush.

Welcome home, Barack Obama.

Well, of course he shifts on welfare reform. He'll say and do anything. He's blowing with the wind. He's running right so fast. Trying to nail Hillary's white wenches.

Maybe we can get him to take on the whole Republican agenda. The fact is he's not beleivable and not trustworthy.

What does it matter anyway? Neither of them are fit to be in the white house, and neither is Hillary. Between Obama's inconsistencies, Mccain's clear continuation of Bush policies, and Hillary's stupidity, you're all better off just going to your local gun store and pick up one of those handguns that the Supreme Court ruled for and shoot yourself in the head come November. Unless something big happens, that's what I'm doing myself.

It isn't that Obama could have changed his mind, it's that he says he never had to. That dishonest regardless of the political posture. Just say it - "I'm the candidate of change and I changed my mind". Doesn't that sound great! It could be his latest campaign slogan! How about "I'm the candidate of change because I will change my mind - trust me?"

obama is a phony and an opportunist

If Obama shuffles, McBush can barely stand, not to say stagger. Obama's appeal is to pragmatic, workable, sensible, socially committed programs. McBush is more of the same for Bush's third term, when after eight years we citizens are barely making it. National insecurity, Katrina, 100 years in Iran, oil crony-ism and $8 a gallon for gas, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran, drill, drill, drill our pristine wilderness, fry, fry, fry our planet. Our beloved nation cannot take another McSame. Turn the page for the sake of our children and grandchildren.

You've got to be kidding me.

He said in 1996 that the Welfare Reform Act was flawed, and somehow you concluded from this that he was against Welfare Reform? In spite of the fact that he sponsored legislation that put it into action?

Next up for ABC: Obama voted against the new "Patriot Act", now calls himself a patriot. Must be a flip-flop!

The reason Obama is so scary is because he in effect refuses to take any specific positions, merely hinting at his views, and playing on nuances in wording. This allows people to see what they want to see in his "change." It is the mark of a "confidence (read con) man," and our new crop of journalists irresponsibly lets him get away with it. Most of Obama's career he appears to have sided with the far left. However, the truth is we have no idea what he would try to do, or why. Given that Obama lacks any experience or accomplishments that come close to qualifying him to be President (his greatest strength appears to be reading a teleprompter well), the risk of electing him are far too great for us to assume.

Okay, let's be absolutely clear about one thing - "Welfare Reform" is separate from any bill trying to reform Welfare. You can still be pro-reform, but disagree with a particular bill as its drafted. Obama said in 1996 that he is for Welfare reform ("I don't like the status quo"), but he did not agree with the particular bill that was passed. No contradiction there. He declined to criticize his then-opponent's husband's decision to sign that bill, then said he wouldn't second-guess the signing. What's the contradiction there? This article seems inordinately slanted to me, since it is claiming some form of duplicitous shift in his stance that just doesn't exist. Even examining the rhetoric mentioned in the article itself, it disproves the point trying to be made. That's kind of sad.

This was not a flip flop.

If you remember the welfare reform, the very day Clinton signed it he said it was flawed and vowed to 'fix it' later. He had to sign it to get re-elected.

Even then Obama was for welfare reform, as you cite. That he said he 'probably wouldn't have signed it' doesn't mean he wasn't in favor of welfare reform.

Now, Obama is a liberal and if you don't like that, vote for McCain. But cut the bull about flip flopping.

This was not a flip flop.

If you remember the welfare reform, the very day Clinton signed it he said it was flawed and vowed to 'fix it' later. He had to sign it to get re-elected.

Even then Obama was for welfare reform, as you cite. That he said he 'probably wouldn't have signed it' doesn't mean he wasn't in favor of welfare reform.

Now, Obama is a liberal and if you don't like that, vote for McCain. But cut the bull about flip flopping.

And again Obama flip flops. Wow i can't keep up with him. Now i know what his campaign means when they show those posters inscribed with "Change" Yeah to change his mind anytime he feels to, in order to get our votes. Don't get fooled by Obama and his fake call for change and hope. We have seen enough of old Washington and same old politics coming out of him to make him look as old as anyone in DC.

What does this man stand for?

Obama is the real deal and much better than McCain. he has inspired the nation like nother and can lead us, recreate our image to the world and set things right. I believe that he is the best candidate for the presidency of the USA. Go Obama! Visit WhyObama08.org!!

Thank you ABC. Thank you for not covering up this story like so many other "news" sources.
I just e-mailed Hillay and suggested to her to distance herself from the Obama show. I think the DNC will still want her as the candidate. Therefore she should not be embarassing herself by playing kissey face with him now.

All these Obama fanatics now call ABC News pro McCain...make up your minds! before you claimed it was pro Clinton. Stop crying when the news isn't in favor of Obama, stop putting blame on news channels but blame ur messiah for being careless.

ABC does it again. The official MSM outlet for the internet smear machine. Abosulte stinking garbage this article. The fact is that Obama did work hard to pass welfare reform in Illinois as even this article acknowledges. The fact that he might not have supported the Federal bill is subject to 1000000 different variables. But he said it did not do enough for retraining. He said exactly why.

You guys are disgusting really and care nothing about facts.

I bet the next flip will be abortion---any takers?

Picture this: Baby Mama Obama as 1st lady.

Some people will vote Obama even IF he kills someone. Obama lovers will say it was a mistake. He didn't mean to :(

May God deliver us from evil. May God open Americans eyes to see the truth

Well, American people should not blame Obama changing his mind on many issues. He is an agent of "change". He has been doing exactly what he said. "CHANGE". For the people who support Obama, it doesn't matter what, they still support Obama. About McCain, he is changing too, but I did not talk about McCain here because he did not say he is an agent of "change". Mc Cain is a crook too and he is out of touch with the working people in this country.

Obama proves once again that he has no "core" values. As the respected Rev Wright said "Obama is a politician and will say anything to get elected". And to think I voted for him in the primary. Bring back Hillary!

This is unbelievable. The ad you are talking about cites the Illinois welfare reform measures that Obama passed in the state senate in the 1990's. How on earth can touting the things he ACTUALLY DID in the 1990's represent an about face from the 1990's? How is saying "this is what I did" a contradiction of what he did?

Obama is changing position on some issues, and I don't agree with all of them. But this notion that every single action fits the same mold, so you can just write the same story over and over again with different details, without actually thinking, is the core problem with all of our media at the moment.

How is this a shift? He worked on the Illinois bill but had specific problems with the federal bill. Were the two bills identical?

You think Bush is the worst President in American history, wait until you see President Obama or President McCain!!!!!!!

Pardon me, but could someone from ABC please explain how they can run an attack on Obama based on what a 30 second TV commeercial "leaves out?"

Why did ABC "leave out" the problems Obama said he had with the "Welfare Reform bill when they chose to reacdh back 12 years to try and portray him as shifting positions?

Better yet, why did ABC leave out the fact that John Mc Cain is falsely claiming "we" improved educational benefits for Veterans when he opposed the bill to do so? McCain: so shifty he flipped position without changing positions and still claimed credit.

Pardon me, but could someone from ABC please explain how they can run an attack on Obama based on what a 30 second TV commeercial "leaves out?"

Why did ABC "leave out" the problems Obama said he had with the "Welfare Reform bill when they chose to reacdh back 12 years to try and portray him as shifting positions?

Better yet, why did ABC leave out the fact that John Mc Cain is falsely claiming "we" improved educational benefits for Veterans when he opposed the bill to do so? McCain: so shifty he flipped position without changing positions and still claimed credit.

The next time John McCain runs a 30 second commercial, will reporters from ABC write an article which takes two minutes to read that points out what McCain left out? Like on his changing positions on tax cuts. On the war he supported and said we were winning until he switcvhed his position and supported the switched position of the President. Or how he criticized Rumsfeld without calling on Bush to fire him. Or how he rejected public financing, then embraced it to get a campaign loan, then rejected it again.

Obama is the Great Pretender. Pretending to be whatever is needed to get himself elected. What a phony!

Hard to say whether all this centering will hurt him or not. Americans like pragmatic politicians. They don't like phonys and wafflers. It's almost like he's reading from a catechism as part of a nominal conversion to mainstream a mainstream political creed. But like all else about him it comes off as overly scripted. To me he stinks to high heaven. Will enough voters smell it in time? We can only hope so

I always get a good laugh out of these message boards. Here's to the internet: Giving the stupidest people on earth a forum where they can sound, just for a moment, like their hero Bill O'Reilly/Keith Olbermann and "rilly stick it to those libtards/conservative hacks."

How about this: This article IS stupid for trying to equate a minor 12-year-old remark with a policy stance, AND Obama is a freakin' politician who shifts and panders like most of them. And yet the country still hasn't blown itself up. Huh.

Grow up, jerks. Love, your neighborhood elitist.

only Senator Clinton is capable of being the best President that our children, our troops and our country so desperately needs right now

What do you expect,Obama is the king of flip flop, most will not believe him.
As his mentor of more than 20yr's (REV WRIGHT) stated He(Obama) is just A politicion who will say whatever it takes to get votes.

But Obama cares less for he has his disciples(the kool-aid drinkers) standing ready to brand all that dare to question there messiah, as racist,or stupid.

P.S YOU NOW KNOW OBAMA THINKS GAY MARRAGE IS GRATE, CLAMES TO HAVE ALWAYs SUPPORTED IT !!!!

What's the problem?

Obama never said he was against all welfare reform. In fact he co- sponosored supported an Illinois Welfare reform bill and explained why.

"Calling himself a believer in "making lemonade out of lemons," Obama co-sponsored a 1997 bill approved by the Illinois legislature and signed by the governor which made changes to state programs to help move people from welfare to work.

He made clear at the time, however, that he probably would have opposed the federal welfare overhaul. Speaking on the floor of the Illinois state senate, Obama described his on-going concerns as including a lack of job training, insufficient oversight, and provisions blocking legal immigrants from receiving benefits."

I agree with Laura. These are clearly the worst Presidential candidates in my lifetime. However, Obama clearly poses the greater risk. I am voting for McCain.

What a liar. How dare he even *pretend* he had anything to do with the Democratic accomplishments of the 90's.

PUMA!

The funny this that the GOPer's/McCain supporters have all but forgotten McCain's Flop on:
1.Torture
2.Off Shore dillin
3.Social Security
4.The Bush Tax Cuts
5.Campaign finance reform(secure a loan then reversing on public funding)
And I'm sure that this is not a full list. I like many other American are tire of the same "OLD" same "OLD." McCains ideas are not new or fresh and he lacks vission forthis country other the same way of doing things. Obama at least has a clear vision of where he would like to see this great country go; for those who may be slow on the uptake that would be forward. McCain has years of service in government but if he were going to change things he would have done it by now or was he just lying low, waiting to make hios big move. I think the fact that Obama has not been in politics very long is a benefit. Those who stay too long eventually become corrupt or have ideas that are so old and antiquated the oly option is to run in place, i.e. the status quo.

Obama shifts on EVERYTHING. He is the total Chicago politician package. Wake up America.

www.hellnobama.com

And the Flip Flop Express keeps on rolling.

What's so darn funny is he's throwing all those crazy far left supporters who backed him in the primaries under the bus.

Obama needs to stop lying on all these issues-Nafta,gay marriage,public financing etc.-and now welfare reform. He was against the law when Clinton signed it into law and now claims he was for it all along-"lie".

I agree, to a point, with Ranger Frank @ 1:48 AM-
I remember vividly when Bill Clinton was running in the primary in '92, he was philosophically all over the place- a liberal in Connecticut, a redneck in West Virginia, a good ol' boy in the Carolinas and Cary Grant in Hollywood. I hated him for it. A friend said that they all do it because 1. they need to get elected before they can do anything, and 2. On a larger scale they are learning to be president of all the people. Same with Obama- When he represented a district as a state senator, his views needed to mirror those of his district. When he became a U.S. Senator he had to mirror the views of his state, or at least the segments of the state that could get him elected. Same with running as a candidate in the primary, he needed to distinguish himself from his opposition. I'm not trying to be antagonistic here, but it seems (to me) that Obama's positions moderated, but the candidate remained the same person, while the opponent continually recreated personnas to go along with her moderating positions. That, for me was the tipping point. Obama the man didn't change, though his positions did. I suspect that over the next eight years President Obama will alter his stance on any number of issues. I think that's an asset. President Bush was criticized for his management of the war in iraq. Instead of listening to the criticism and adjusting his approach, the president dug in his heels and thought he could will his way to victory. I admire a person who can see a problem, try a solution, and if it doesn't work, admit it and try something else. Sounds Sane to me. And, for what it's worth, all you people posting about the flip-flops revealing something lacking in his character, I suggest you sound like President Bush.

Maybe you guys got a bit lazy here? You frame the whole story on Welfare Reform as if Welfare Reform was invented by Clinton, and Barack was against it, then for it, implying that Obama had nothing to do with it, had problems with it and now merely takes credit for it.

But 'Obama Passed Welfare Reform Law In IL To Lead The Country To The Biggest Reduction In Welfare Caseload, Adding Child Care, Job Training, and Transportation.' "With the state Senate still in Republican hands, Obama brokered a welfare reform law that combined work requirements and time limits with significant investments in child care, job training and transportation. As a result, thousands of Illinoisans have gained the dignity of a job, and our state leads the nation in the biggest reduction in the welfare caseload." [Rahm Emanuel op-ed, Chicago Sun-Times, 3/27/04]
Here's a link to a whole bunchon it - http://tinyurl.com/5vqk2e

Maybe you guys should hire some fact checkers?

Obama is what Hillary never was, but what they all accused her of being. Hillary stuck to her guns. She's a woman of integrity.

The dems have the wrong woman!

I will vote McCain PUMA!

There’s a simple test of whether a changed position is reasonable or not:

Criteria 1) They can’t lie about how, when, or why they changed their mind

Criteria 2) There are justifiable reasons for changing their mind

The problem with gun rights and death penalty is that they tend to be absolutes. There’s no “new” information there. Either you believe in them or you don’t and Obama did not until last week, with no explanation. On McCain and drilling for oil, the new information is that gas is now twice what it was in 2005.

Obama's Financing Change
Criteria 1: Fail. He lied about why he changed his position.
Criteria 2: Pass. He had a good reason. He will get more money. Instead of being honest, he gave some answer that noone believed.

Obama on Guns:
Fail & Fail
He lied about when and why he changed his mind, and did not give a reason. Claimed to always support 2nd amendment as an individual right, but is on written record as supporting a BAN on the manufacture, sale, and posession of handguns.

Obama on Death for Child Rapists
Fail & Fail
He lied about when and why he changed his mind, and did not give a reason. Claimed to support state's right to impose death for child rapists, but is actually on written record as opposing death penalty in all cases.

Obama on welfare reform:
Fail & Fail
Never acknowledged changing his mind, and is pretending that he was in fact a champion of welfare reform, which is not just a subtle shift. It is a 180% bald faced about face, with no acknowledgment whatever of the change.

This guy could go down in history as a better liar than the Clintons.

Are you stupid or dishonest? You really think that "not second guessing" someone is the same as agreeing with them?
C'mon.

Obama was exatly truthful.

this is embarrassing reporting... Obama has consistently had Welfare reform as a center plank of his personal platform.

I'll grant you Obama's other shifts, but this one is patently false. Don't presume that simply because he is democratic he didn't used to want to reform gov't handouts.

Obama give a great speech on patriotism. As an unabashed patriot that served my country in time of war, as did my Father, my two brothers, and my son I though it was a very moving speech.

Unfortunately, Obama actions & life contradict and refutes his words! So I cannot vote for Obama. However, I cannot vote for McCain that has traded on being an prisoner of war his whole career without ever accomplishing one thing for the betterment of this Nation. Indeed, based on his speeches and record McCain,s intelligence, ability, and temperament seems to be on par or below the current occupant of the WH.

I am not sure this Nation could survive four years of his presidency! I think we will find out if we can survive four years of Obama. In both cases, I think both will accelerate & hasten the demise and eventual down fail of this great Nation. I say this because both are supporting Amnesty for the Millions of Uneducated Aliens that are pouring across our open Borders. History has shown that Great Nation perish from internal rot and not from outside forces. All nations immigration policies are by design and intent suppose to promote and enhance the welfare of the Nations citizens and the future of the Nation.

Clearly giving Amnesty to 20 to 30 million of uneducated peons and criminals that are rejects from third world countries alone with the chain immigration of their relatives and their relatives that owe their loyally to their home countries and refuse to assimilate, is not in the best interest of the Nation or its Citizens! Citizens that have immigrated here legally, obeyed the laws, paid their taxes and fought our wars and built the greatest nation on earth.

While both would have us believe it is their great compassion is the reason they support Amnesty, it is in fact pandering for votes irregardless of the great harm and irreparable damage they will to do this Nation. Both refuse to abide by our Constitution against invasion, refuse to enforce our laws, and refuse to honor their oath of office!

Amnesty on this scale of uneducated, educating hating, fast breeding, welfare loving, criminally inclined aliens will eventually turn this Nation into the same type of society the invaders have created and built and are now fleeing from in their own countries!

Lets face the facts, both Juan McAmnesty and Obama love this country and its citizens so much that both cannot wait to give Amnesty to 20 to 30 millions invading, American hating, Illegal Aliens and with chain immigration their relatives and their relatives in an never ending chain. While both ignore our Constitution against invasion and the rule of Law. The invaders have loyally to other Nations, refuse to assimilate & have proven in hundreds of years in their Nations that their primary ability is to breed, produce, foster, and create an third world society of Crime, Corruption, Poverty, and Misery. If anyone doubts that point of view just look at the Border cities they are as different as night and day. The land is the same the only thing different is the culture of the people living on the land.

Many have hard time understanding how anyone with any intelligence can sit in a Church for 20 years and support ones friend and mentor week after week, month after month, year after year with his money, family and attendance while listening to Hate American, Hate whites, Hate every thing rants, (with the exception of Blacks and Muslins) and still insist that he has not endorsed and does not believe in the Message, and he has not endorsed and does not believe in the MESSENGER.
They do not understand why believing in God, loving this Nation, supporting the second Amendment, supporting Article IV Section IV of our Constitution against Invasion, and supporting the rule of Law,, makes them intelligibly inferior, and the object of scorn and ridicule by Obama and his Left Wing Cult followers!

I'm with David at 9:21 PM - this is a load of crap as journalism. I was in Illinois in 1997. Obama was supporting welfare reform. As he said, "I'm not a supporter of the status quo." But he believed (correctly, in my opinion) that there were problems with the federal bill. He felt that Clinton failed in many ways to protect the purpose of welfare. And now, 12 years later, we have Bush extending unemployment benefits (READ: WELFARE) and offering corporate incentives (READ: CORPORATE WELFARE) and the Republicans are asking for more tax cuts (READ: RICH PEOPLE WELFARE). Obama's position hasn't changed. He is glad that welfare to work programs are working. He just wants to ensure that we're doing a better job of retraining workers and creating green-collar jobs.

Obama all CHANGE all the time:

CHANGE ... what you'll have left after I raise taxes.
CHANGE ... your gas prices upwards, but gradually
CHANGE ... my hat size because every day my head gets bigger
CHANGE ... the national motto to: In Obama We Trust.
CHANGE ... what I do to my story depending upon whom I'm talking to.
CHANGE ... what I do every day to my foreign policy
CHANGE ... what I do to my trade policy depending upon whom I'm talking to
CHANGE ... your lifestyle because the rest of the world doesn't like you
CHANGE ... my friends when they turn out NOT to be "The person I knew"
CHANGE ... what my radical left-wing ideologue handlers have in store for you
CHANGE ... what I do to facts to suit my needs.
CHANGE ... my previous position in favor of gun control was 'inartful language'
CHANGE ... my pastor's screed is OK, yours isn't
CHANGE ... FISA line that we crossed but I have now moved back
CHANGE ... from public to private campaign financing because I can raise more money
CHANGE ... I'll debate John McCain anytime, anywhere; except when and where he asks me.
CHANGE ... the words of others and claim they're mine, because words count.
CHANGE ... the meaning of Bible verses to meet my own liberal world view
CHANGE ... more of you into victims of something and build government programs to take care of you
CHANGE ... you into a ward of the state so that I OWN you and your vote
CHANGE ... your mind and believe in me for I am the Obamessiah come to save you
CHANGE ... into giggling sycophants; liberal mainstream media do under the spell of the Obamessiah
CHANGE ... the chant I use to control the weak-minded Obamanized masses
CHANGE ... into an Obamatron; join the cult, repeat the chant: CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE ...
CHANGE ... what I plan to do to America because it's the greatest country on the planet.
CHANGE ... the national anthems of all the nations of the world to Kumbaya using my messianic foreign policy skills
CHANGE ... into mumble-mouthed idiot when I don't have prepared speech to read.
CHANGE ... historical facts to agree with my life story
CHANGE ... I said the DC gun ban was constitutional, but now I agree with Supreme Court ruling it unconstitutional.
CHANGE ... what I said because my rhetoric was overheated and amplified
CHANGE ... I mocked Hillary during the primary, now she “rocks”.
CHANGE ... I respect McCain's service to his nation, so I sent Wesley “looser” Clark out to demean him
CHANGE ... but not for us, not the left-wing liberal elite, CHANGE is for YOU.
CHANGE ... anything and everything I've said or done in my life if it will help me win
CHANGE ... the definition of change to: What I say, when I say it, to whom I say it.
CHANGE ... I can CHANGE when it suits me
CHANGE ... you can believe in for a day or two
CHANGE ... you can't keep up with

CHANGE ... your underwear because you'll defecate in your pants when you wake up to find out what the left-wing liberal ideologues have done after gaining complete control of government.

CHANGE ... YOU better freaking BELIEVE IN because it will WORK YOU over.
Obama: the AUDACITY to count on you and I being DOPEs

Let us hope that both candidates (Obama and McCain) are asked to explain why they have changed their positions on certain issues (i.e. McCain on drilling and tax cuts, Obama on welfare reform and constitutionality of the DC gun ban). What I find interesting about the switches of both candidates on issues is that McCain's switches appear to be in the direction of the GOP base while Obama's are away from the Democrat's base.

Obama is a Fraud!
He is as big a liar as Hillary and
more deceptive!
Just Say No To Obama! No You Can't!

McCain and Obama have both changed their minds about several things. That might not be a bad thing. Bush and Cheney not only never changed their minds; they rejected the will of the people if it went against them.
Obama's changes have not been significant. I can't think of one issue he has changed his mind on that shakes what he stands for fundamentally.
McCain is less clear. He has gone from a very independent Republican to a very right-wing Republican. My curiosity about both these men is what they will do if elected.
Will McCain return to his maverick ways that garnered admiration from both sides of the table?
Will Obama turn back to his progressive leanings?

As it turns out, Obama does not believe in the Fourth Amendment (FISA), understand the Second Amendment (see D.C. gun ban), or correctly interpret the First Amendment (see Establishment Clause).

For a Constitutional scholar (sic), Obama sure has a poor understanding of the Constitution.

This is ridiculous. The ad is talking about welfare reform legislation in Illinois, not the federal legislation Clinton signed into law. Obama opposed the federal legislation in part, and then worked to make a state bill in Illinois that complied with the new federal system, and presumably joined in crafting the bill so that he could avoid or create workarounds for the problems presented by the federal legislation that are detailed in this article. There's nothing two-faced about it, and nothing that suggests Obama wouldn't have preferred a reform of welfare that distributed money more wisely without slashing its budget.

The republican brand has been trashed by Bush, Cheney, Rove and others.
When Bush had a Rep. majority, he did not push action that would have helped us today. Even the green car legislation is still oil-based. And you know that Big Oil is the reason so many lives have been lost in Iraq. Do you want to stay oil dependent? Then vote McCain for more of the same.

um--isn't this ad about obama's support for THE STATE WELFARE REFORM THAT HE SUPPORTED--NOT THE FEDERAL WELFARE REFORM?

are you folks this dumb or so hot and ready to point out perceived NON-flips that you write idiotic drivel like this?

abc news again--you are really sad.

Seems there's no credibility with some of the journalism here anymore. How did he shift towards it if he helped sponsor versions of it as a state senator in Illinois. ABC is reaching with this one. Be fair with the reporting and let the public decide from facts and not skewed interpretations of them.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/17/politics/main2369157.shtml
SPRINGFIELD, Ill., Jan. 17, 2007

Even when he was in the political minority, OBAMA sometimes played a critical role. He helped write one of the rare ethics laws in a state known for government corruption and WORKED ON WELFARE REFORM WITH REPUBLICANS.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/538/
Nevertheless, the legislation's primary role was WELFARE REFORM, and the legislative record shows that OBAMA HAD A LEADERSHIP ROLE IN GETTING IT PASSED. For these reasons, we find Obama's claim Mostly True

I love the term "corporate welfare" touted by naive liberals. US corporations pay the 2nd highest corporate tax rate in the world behind Japan. I guess you'd rather tax US companies more so they can compete even less with China and India and we can just sell off all our "evil corporations."

To become liberal does it require a lobotomy? I guess I don't see how I could shut off my brain to that extent without surgery.

It's so sad that liberals only have 2 things to run on for the election.

1. McCain is the same as Bush - Not even close to the truth and I think any logical minded person couldn't lie to themselves that badly.

2. The war

For a bunch of "intellectual progressives" I fail to see any intellect put to work or progress in their ideas or lack thereof.

"I will get the troops out in 16 months--max." I can name that tune in two notes. Yesterday is gone, and tomorrow? The situation is always changing. Ask me tomorrow.

Well Senator Obama again changes his mind for in trying to convince more moderate voters in the swing states. My question is as follow: Sometimes I wonder is how far Mr. Obama or any other politician willing to go in order to get elected! Selling their soul to the devil!

Obama is not a Christian person.

He would not be doing such evil things if he was.

Of Course his Christianity and others is way different, he knows that. So I am sure he is using yours to play you. His Christianity is 30 years old, and stems from the Black Liberation Theology. Where he learned his Christianity and made it his own.

http://www.culturekitchen.com/liza/blog/james_cone_on_black_liberation_theology

Please watch it, it the basis of Obama religion. Then you will begin to understand him.

His welfare reform is just like everything else. He does not care, is not worried about it. If you haven't notice the blacks did not make an uproar about it, and they will not.

Obama can say what ever he wants the Black community knows it is all Just words, and he does not plan on acting on much of anything that he says.

Evident, that they have not protest one thing he has ever said, even when it would effect thier lives drastically. Because they know he will not. They know exactly what he will be doing.

Sure you have a few Blacks that speak out, They are the ones not buying into obama plans and very few off them.

I love this! Can the real Barack Obama please stand up? The super delegates can change their minds by August. August is a long time away in the instant media world. Barack did not win enough delegates. He is the presumptive nominee until the convention. Today it is the super delegates that have picked him as the nominee. PLEASE SUPER DELEGATES, THROW OUT THE KOOL AID!!! Hillary! Hillary! Hillary! She is our girl. www.justsaynodeal.com
PUMA. PUMA. PUMA. PUMA.

Uh, this isn't a shift. I think it's pretty clear that he opposed the original legislation, and then tried to make something positive out of it because the legislation wasn't going away. Now he's trumpeting the positive thing that he did. How is that a shift?

Obama and his supporters can keep the change.

Here you go again but none of this nasty propaganda is working; You can site the CNN polls all you want but the simple TRUTH is that the RCP poll has Obama ahead in Michigan (HELLO), Montana, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Iowa so far. Nationally Rasmussen has O. ahead +5; Gallup, +4, RCP has O. 48.5 Nationally and McC 42.8. Close but gaining. In contrast to Obama's general consistency (look it up, don't follow the line of propaganda on this site), McCain opposed the Bush tax cut as being skewed toward the richest among us and not fiscally possible in the long run. . .now he wants to keep them forever more. He co-sponsored an immigration bill and now disowns it. He was horrified with the torture of detainees in Guantanamo but now attacks the Supreme Court's decision giving them constitutional rights as "one of the`worst decisions in the history of this country". Who is the "flipper"?? Even THE NEW REPUBLIC and THE AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE are admitting in big terms that (according to the former) disillusioned concervatives, libertarians "have been pushed 'into Obama's arms'". The latter states, "To believe that (a) President McCain will reduce the scope and intrusiveness of federal authority, cut the imperial presidency down to size, and put the government on a pay-ads-you-go basis is to succumb to a great delusion." Last, but certainly not list. . .while the rest of Congress including McCain fell for the Bushy/Cheney line of "the smoking gun" which got into this mess in the first place, a young Illinois senator was telling Chicago protestors:

I KNOW THAT EVEN A SUCCESSFUL WAR AGAINST TRAQ WILL REQUIRE A U.S. OCCUPATION OF UNDETERMINED LENGTH, AT UNDETERMINED COST, WITH UNDETERMINED CONSEQUENCES. I KNOW THAT AN INVASION OF IRAQ WITHOUT A CLEAR RATIONALE AND WITHOUT STRONG INTERNATIONAL SUPPORT WILL ONLY FAN THE FLAMES OF THE MIDDLE EAST AND ENCOURAGE THE WORST, RATHER THAN BEST, IMPULSES OF THE ARAB WORLD, AND STRENGTHEN THE RECRUITMENT ARM OF AL QUEDA, I AM NOT OPPOSED TO ALL WARS. I'M OPPOSED TO DUMB WARS."

It's clear who has the better mind for foreign affairs. McCain has no trouble with us in Iraq for 100 years. I am in a military family. I don't want my son in a "dumb war" that McCain and Clinton supported.

Obama is a horrible, inexperienced and deceitful candidate. He flat out lies about what his stances have been and gets away with it because he changes his stances so often that we don't have any idea what he stands for or what he'll do.

I'm a lifelong Democrat but I love America too much to entrust Obama with my vote. Democrats -- we still have time to nominate HRC at the convention. Let's nominate HRC and get a leader with backbone, and fight -- finally.

I am so disgusted, even still with all the information known. I am abolutely for Hillary. How can so many people just lay down and forget it, doing nothing. Everybody I talk to during the course of the day, and many of these are people I know casually not even politiical-wise, are for Hillary. If Hillary would run using a third unknown party or promote her name as a write in. America needs Hillary. Our country was rocking and wonderful when Bill Clinton was President, well those days are history, long gone, but it now is time for bigger and better things, Hillary. Please listen to your begging supporters Hillary. Please consider running separately. The amazing thing I have found between all of us who are so strongly for Hillary is, we dont care if she would be put in as VP, we want her as President, if we cant give her our vote that way, then we are McCain supporters

Super delegates, it is not too late to do the right thing and back the choice of MORE democrats...Hillary.
I have NEVER been against Welfare reform, though I think there are always adjustments to be made and Bill Clinton agrees... he wanted more protections too.

However Obama is a fraud and a phony and I will be voting McCain if he is the nominee. Obama ran the single ugliest campaign I have ever seen in a primary with his constant race baiting. I think it is hysterical that he now agrees with Cosby and thinks black people should stop blaming "racism" for all their problems. Since he did nothing BUT cry "race" every time he turned around, I really did choke over his lecturing other black people about that subject.

I LIKE that Hillary is honest about who she is even if I do not always agree with her. She is honest, let's nominate her.

At what point does changing your stance on an issue through value and reason become flip flopping? That's what I'd like to know. Obama's perfectly allowed to change tactic or have his opinion persuaded in a different direction, but has he not reached a point of no return? Hasn't his changing and switching now become the moral flatulence of flip flopping? I think so. Further more, what goes on inside the mind behind the words when Obama switches his opinion? It seems to me he's either A.) aware of his presidential shortcoming and has chosen to delete it from his conscience or B.) he's simply forgotten on which side of the fence he stood that supported his road to the white house. So the question is this. Do we want Obama A, or Obama B to lead this country?

Like all people, Obama's sincerity is dubious, but one thing I find hard to support is the claim posted by "J": Obama is a great, inspiring speaker, but one who is never "specific and clear, straightforward, honest, and caring."
May I suggest researching original sources? You'd quickly discover that McCain is the ignorant idealist. For example, the education information each candidate provided on MySpace. Obama offers facts from the senate and figures for the future. They may be impossibly high figures, but they are negoitable and much more "specific" than the vague cliches of McCain's site: "Children deserve an excellent education."

She scares me too after reading the I Report on CNN where a constituant reports other firings she has done during her administration...seems like a pattern "my way or no way" This election is too important to find out she has a bad temper (and Mc Cain also)
I am a republican trying to make an intelligent decision.

She scares me too after reading the I Report on CNN where a constituant reports other firings she has done during her administration...seems like a pattern "my way or no way" This election is too important to find out she has a bad temper (and Mc Cain also)
I am a republican trying to make an intelligent decision.

I hope all the Obama supporters will heed this warning: IF He wins, and I doubt it. But IF He does, you can bet everything you own, you'll regret that vote. IRAN is "backing" HIM. Why wouldn't they? He'll do what IRAN wants, pull out of IRAQ quick you IRAN & Al-Quiada can go on in there & seize it.They,(IRAN) want to Wipe Israel Off the Earth. Israel is God's Promised Land for the Jews. Obama won't do anything to stop it either. And, if Obama supporters really believe in His tax plan, you're going to be in for a very Rude Awakening IF He get's elected & sworn in. WHO do you think will PAY for the Government Health care? WE WILL.The Man wants to re-write our Constitution! We can't have that! WHO do you think will SUFFER when He taxes the businesses? We, the Employees will. Think hard before you Vote.
McCain/Palin 08. The sensible choice.

People need to wake up, that there is an invisible power behind government. Politicians are nothing but puppets working for "men behind the curtain" that is there, but you dont see. He might want to do things for a good cause, but last time a president was with the people , he got killed. So until America wakes up, everything will stay the same. Watch "Inner world of the occult" on google video and you'll get the picture

Want real stimulus Try real welfare reform .. Want to know the real secret
after the 96 welfare reform purposals took place where do you think all those welfare recipients went Well they went to bankrupt social security and most were dumped there Think about does 90 million disabled people sound realistic I DONT THINK SO I would suggest weeding out all those persons how in 96 went to social security for a start IM paul jensen