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Ron Paul Gets Bigger Soapbox for Shadow Convention
July 22, 2008 9:14 AM
ABC News' Z. Byron Wolf reports: Ron Paul is not holding his breath for a speaking slot at the Republican National Convention in Minneapolis/St. Paul in September and he has long planned a day-long shadow convention to give him an arena to expound his limited government mantra.
But, worried about the size of his arena, his new political action group--The Campaign for Liberty--has booked a bigger one.
They'll announce today they've changed from the Williams Arena at the University of Minnesota to the much larger Target Center, seating capacity: 18,000.
Paul's supporters have been undefinable and unknown throughout the election cycle. There are the loud and sometimes rowdy, usually young sign-waving blimp renters, omnipresent in the early primary states during the Republican race. And there is the legion of online supporters, contributing millions online and creating what Paul hopes will be a lasting grassroots framework.
But there were not (on balance) many voters for Paul, who while he stayed in the race against Sen. McCain longer than any of his GOP rivals, has very few Republican delegates.
So Paul's shadow convention (speakers include anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist, shaggy haired cable personality Tucker Carlson, and Barry Goldwater Jr.,) will be a test of his new group's staying power and organizational mettle. Supporters have been encouraged to exploit state delegate rules to get appointed to, infiltrate and make themselves known at the national convention before decamping for the Target Center.
July 22, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (227)
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"But there were not (on balance) many voters for Paul, who while he stayed in the race against Sen. McCain longer than any of his GOP rivals, has very few Republican delegates."
How about you throw the actual numbers out there so readers can decide for themselves whether or not Ron Paul's 1 million plus votes are a lot or not.
Journalism 101
Posted by: Brent | Jul 22, 2008 9:44:33 AM
"But there were not (on balance) many voters for Paul, who while he stayed in the race against Sen. McCain longer than any of his GOP rivals, has very few Republican delegates."
How about you throw the actual numbers out there so readers can decide for themselves whether or not Ron Paul's 1 million plus votes are a lot or not.
Journalism 101
Posted by: Brent | Jul 22, 2008 9:45:02 AM
Taking time to go to the respective conventions to become ELECTED delegates is far from infiltrating. Poor choice of words. I hold the Paul delegates in high esteem, for the odds were against them yet, through perseverance they were able to garner some success, WITHOUT exploiting the rules.
Posted by: Joe | Jul 22, 2008 9:53:16 AM
Does this revolution have logistical capability and mid to higher level organizational skill?
Let's ask the 10,000-20,000 people that showed up for the Revolution March on June 12th!
Posted by: Matthew | Jul 22, 2008 9:59:41 AM
Go Ron Paul! Make Obama's victory more of a landslide!
Posted by: Sean | Jul 22, 2008 9:59:43 AM
What kooks these people are who believe in The Constitution? They must be nuts.
Posted by: Max | Jul 22, 2008 10:01:55 AM
Ron Paul has made several statements saying that the US is not a democracy. He hates democracy and wants to get the US out of the UN, and the UN out of the US, and he wants to dismantle the Dept of Education, IRS etc etc. The more I read about Ron Paul, the more appalled I am. for the first time in my adult life, seeing how many of my fellow American support this whacko, I am truly ashamed.
Posted by: jason | Jul 22, 2008 10:06:19 AM
ABC would never report the rallies for Ron Paul across the country, attended by thousand of his supporters. Instead they fawned over McCain, Obama, Romney, Huckabee and Hillary. The media never liked Ron Paul, that was the problem with Ron Paul's campaign. Sen. Obama was an unknown before the primary, except the media had fallen in love with him, after his speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention. There constant converage made him into a national candidate that "could win", regardless of many Democrats wishes.
Posted by: Andrew Panken | Jul 22, 2008 10:06:39 AM
Paul's campaign was BLACKED OUT of the news cycle.
That publicity, which other candidates like Rudy, Huck, and Mitt received in abundance, is worth billions.
By comparison, Paul's 30 some million in contributions is only enough to send fewer than 1/3 of Americans ONE FIRST CLASS LETTER.
THAT'S ALL.
See how important mainstream media coverage really is?
Ron Paul is correct about the problems America faces right now, and if you don't realize that, you better start doing some research - ON YOUR OWN.
Posted by: Tom deSabla | Jul 22, 2008 10:10:41 AM
Mostly young? There are a lot of young supporters of Ron Paul, and they are the most seen. However there are a lot of supporters of all ages, you just don't see them as much.
Posted by: Henry Miller | Jul 22, 2008 10:11:17 AM
Admittedly, Ron Paul does not come across as a strong leader. However, his insight into political and economic issues is very keen. Seeing how he was treated by the press and his fellow candidates made me ashamed. He was the only one to argue that the terrorists hate us not because we're "free" but because of our foreign policy. He was then mocked for this. He's the only one to get it right and then he's mocked. Scary...
Posted by: Brian | Jul 22, 2008 10:15:06 AM
The US is not a Democracy it is a Constitutional Republic, Jason. I am so ashamed that most people have forgoten their Freshman year of highschoool.
Democracy is 3 wolves and 1 sheep voting on whats for dinner. A Constitutional Republic is when you arm the sheep. -Thomas Jefferson
Posted by: Steve | Jul 22, 2008 10:15:39 AM
Having worked for a presidential candidate that was labeled by the media as "fringe" (or "moonbeam") by the media, I empathize with the frustration of Mr. Paul's supporters.
Mr. McCain would do well to insist that the convention planners give Mr. Paul the opportunity to speak from the Convention Podium (not in television hours) to give those who worked so hard, and believe with so much passion closure.
Mr. Clinton allowed Mr. Brown that opportunity without a requirement for endorsement in '92, and I believe it bought both a some votes for Mr. Clinton (it did mine).
Mr. McCain is going to need every vote he can scrape from every corner of the joint, and to be dismissive of the Ron Paul voters could be a slight that hastens his demise.
Posted by: Larry | Jul 22, 2008 10:19:27 AM
Ron Paul is very threatening to those who seek power.
He seeks to dismantle generations of government incrementalism that has turned this once free nation into a bunch of micromanaged peons who must ask the government for permission for most anything short of using the bathroom.
Give the uberLibs enough time and the will regulate how many times you must shake it after doing your business.
Posted by: john | Jul 22, 2008 10:19:49 AM
The reality of our society is that we have become the product of the media marketing machine.
We are bombarded with a psychological warfare of marketing. We are influenced in everything we see, read, listen to or watch. The subtle things like everyone with a cell phone, everyone has a flat panel tv, everyone drives a nice new car, so the public feels that if they do not have those things, they are falling behind.
We created this debt monster, and the people behind the money are loving it all the way to the bank. You see, money is just a tool. When you get to the level of hundreds of millions of dollars, then it is no longer about the money, it is about the power and influence. The media wants a weak leader that they can control, Obama is that weak leader.
We do not need the IRS. It siphons money from the economy and costs more to operate each year. The USPS is also a dinosaur, as UPS and FED EX are now moving as much mail. Email has replaced the letter.
The Dept of Education is a joke. To avoid leaving behind a lazy child who refuses to learn, we will just dumb down all our kids to that one child. Wrong, make school tough, and pay the teachers.
The constitution is right, and the bill of rights are not subject to interpretation.
Posted by: Armed Bear | Jul 22, 2008 10:21:06 AM
I agree with Henry Miller. I am 37, not necessarily that politically active, and Ron Paul's message has struck a chord with me as I believe many other people in many other age groups.
The "less government" message is not a new one but certainly appropriate.
Personally, I hope Ron Paul's approach will help the Republican Party wrestle their soul away from big business and foreign governments. If not, perhaps the party's time is up.
Posted by: Gregory | Jul 22, 2008 10:23:38 AM
To that max guy....learn about your country...He says its not a democracy because its not...its a republic..and fools like you don't know the difference and think its anti American to say so. And all those organizations you listed, do more harm than good or aren't authorized at all. Go Ron Paul!
Posted by: Peter Coyne | Jul 22, 2008 10:28:27 AM
I honestly think that if more people tried to make up their own minds, and did some *serious* research on these issues, they would see that Ron Paul isn't so crazy after all.
I recommend Milton Friedman's book "Free to Choose" to anyone that will take the time to read it. Throwing money and bigger government at our social problems only makes things worse in the long run.
Posted by: Brian | Jul 22, 2008 10:28:47 AM
To Max,
Actually Ron Paul is quite correct the United Stares are not a Democracy. We are in fact a representative Republic.
The difference being that in a democracy the people decide directly on the issues at hand, where-as in a Republic the people elect representatives who vote or decide in their stead.
As to the IRS, they are a non-constitutional institution whose charter was never approved by a majority of states (to put it simply).
later,
John
Posted by: John | Jul 22, 2008 10:30:05 AM
This is another example how the press is not reporting the news but injecting them into it. From the top use of the word "soapbox" to "..shaggy haired cable personality..." and "...his limited government mantra...". I watched one of the debate that show press deliberately ignored what Ron Paul wanted to say. It was the worst practice in democracy of have ever witness in this country. Press should report who went were, show what they say, without injecting their own always wrong words.
Posted by: Markux | Jul 22, 2008 10:30:24 AM
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