Well if the Irakis want us to leave their country and Americans want to leave Irak, this kinda leaves McCain as the odd man out.

He may want to occupy Irak for 100 years but this is not what most Americans and Irakis want.

I misread this headline and got all excited. I thought it said, "Obama Seeks Fresh Start in Iraq." For a moment, I thought he was going to move there. Aw, shucks - what a letdown.

Obama will have a chance, with this speech and his foreign trip, to take back the foreign policy advantage. He needs to play up his ability to deal with the real terrorists in Afghanistan.

Asking if one candidate would make a good commander-in-chief is one of those questions that requires a great deal of post-survey interpretation. One of the most important aspects of the discussion would have to include focusing in on the demographics of the respondents. Those with military leadership experience would give much more credible responses than those without. How would the average American now what it really means to be commander-in-chief?

Consider the position of bank president. Joe has been a bank employee for 20 years. Would you hire Joe? Would your opinion change if you then learned that Joe was the bank's repo man? Does his experience still qualify him for the post?

Keep in mind: we're not electing a commander-in-chief... the position is president. Certainly, commander-in-chief is one of the many duties of the president... but that cannot be the only consideration.

Would you elect as commander-in-chief a man who signed up for a term of service, then shirked his duties in order to take care of personal business? What if that same man chose a sidekick who used every possible loophole at his disposal to avoid any military service? It happened... in 2000 and 2004.

Those who say McCain must be elected due to the 'commander-in-chief' reasoning are the same people who bypassed two men with military experience in favor of George W. Bush... and look at the mess we're in as a result.

Obama's strength in Iraq is in voting against this war in the first place. He saw through a currupt president who wanted to de-throne Saddam. This had nothing to do with 911.
McCain, on the other hand, was happy to follow like a puppy. Tongue hanging out and tail wagging.
Obama can make a positive out of this visit, by asking his generals to formulate a plan for moving troops out and making short work of Afganistan.

GET OUR TROOPS OUT OF JAPAN< GET OUR TROOPS OUT OF GERMANY...WE ARE OCUPPIERS LMAO

DAVID IN NH -

OBAMA DIDN'T VOTE AGAINST THE WAR. HE WASN'T IN THE SENATE THEN. HE SAID HE OPPOSED THE WAR. IF HE WERE IN THE SENATE HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE VOTED PRESENT LIKE HE USUALLY DOES.

THIS IS PROBLEM WITH OBAMA SUPPORTERS. THEY ARE SO MISINFORMED WITH THE INEXPERIENCED JUNIOR SENATOR FROM "CHICAGO".

This all this clown Obama knows how to do is make speeches. He begins to feel the heat by the media and is asked questions and responds in this manner -
"um ummm Ughh - I didn't mean that - um oh um ugh.
So the only way for him to sound intelligent is to have a speech written and posted on a teleprompter.

What a loser.

Frank:

While you are correct in catching David's error -- true, Sen. Obama was not able to vote his opposition to the war since he had not yet been elected to the US Senate -- you failed to comment on another key point: "McCain, on the other hand, was happy to follow like a puppy. Tongue hanging out and tail wagging." The issue isn't who voted and who didn't... but what are the intentions of the two candidates. Last I heard, Sen. McCain has no real plan for ending the 'police action' in Iraq. His '100 years' quote, while taken somewhat out of context, is solid evidence that he is in favor of the status quo... which is not in line with the interests of most Americans.

Seriously, Frank...

You expect me to believe that?

I love people like matt, who think Obama can fix everything with a teleprompter and a speach. He might be able to sway the young and naive, but older voters know better. This guy has no experience in foreign policy, NONE!!!! And you want to hand him the reigns to the greatest fighting force on the planet??

Hillary Clinton said it first, "he can't win". The polls are now beginning to reflect that. In the end, American voters will take the safe, high road and vote McCain. The risk factor with Obama is just too high.

Obama needs a fresh start with everything now that he doesn't have Hillary to copy from and Steve we are part of the united natiions which are supposed to be the peace keepers of the world a fact MR.Bush forgot

Brenda...

Your response (concerning Angie's posts)... is a classic example of pot/kettle.

I was simply offering advice to Angie... in order to make her argument more substantial.

If you care to recall... during the primary season both Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama agreed that their health plans were substantially similar. Both touted their own plan as better, while both agreed that the major components of their plans were identical.

If you care to explore all of the facts, you will find that Sen. Obama is, indeed, a very 'bright' individual... bright enough to put together an extremely effective campaign and proceed through the campaign with civility and poise. Read the current issue of Rolling Stone.

Obama: The blind leading the blind!

Obama hasn't got Iraq right yet. Why should any thinking person believe he'll get it right this time? The guy just cannot be trusted with a position on anything!

It will be interesting to see the enthusiasm level this fall with the college kids. Many will have moved on, many will have lost interest, and hopefully many will have had their eyes opened and no longer feel the need to follow the crowd who is blindly following false promises.

Now, we learned Obama has scrubbed his website of anything criticizing the surge in Iraq. Soon, he'll be denying he ever criticized the effort. Yet, with all his position changes, the lemmings who value hope over substance continue to follow along for the ride. And, they'll blame McCain for Obama's ever shifting stand on things! Funny people!

It will be interesting to see the enthusiasm level this fall with the college kids. Many will have moved on, many will have lost interest, and hopefully many will have had their eyes opened and no longer feel the need to follow the crowd who is blindly following false promises.

Posted by: Ex-democrat | Jul 15, 2008 10:37:40 AM

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I bet the Obama campaign will offer great freebies so they can fill the football stadium to capacity. They are so innovative!

Mmmmm wonder how CLOSE John and Barack are in the polls today?

Running neck and neck, who will hang out to dry first?