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The Note: Obama Gets Benefits, Not Blame, of Surge

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July 22, 2008 8:15 AM

ABC News' Rick Klein Reports in Tuesday's Note: Was Sen. John McCain right about the surge yet not getting credit for it?

Was Sen. Barack Obama wrong about it and getting credit for it anyway?

Does anyone in the history of presidential politics have Obama-like luck?

Does McCain have to make his own luck -- or can he count on The New York Times  or Obama himself to make it for him?

OK -- let’s back up. Here's an easier question to answer: Who had the better day -- the guy in the golf cart, or the guy in the chopper?

As for who will have the better week -- that may have been determined before Obama, D-Ill., touched down in Iraq.

Read the rest of The Note -- and get all the latest on the 2008 election, Congress, the White House and the wide world of politics every day -- from Rick Klein by bookmarking this link.

Now that Obama is on to Jordan, Israel, and the rest of his trip (Tuesday brings his first press availability since leaving US soil) it’s just possible that perceptions are set: Obama went to Afghanistan and Iraq, and the world followed him -- not McCain’s.

(That includes Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, and maybe even President Bush.)

The trip so far: "Better than they could have imagined," ABC's George Stephanopoulos reported on "Good Morning America" Monday. "Events are really conspiring to help Sen. Obama here."

But might this be the opening McCain needs to get back in the conversation -- to make the central question one of judgment on the surge, not the war?

"Attacks across the country are down more than 80 percent. Still, when asked if knowing what he knows now, he would support the surge, the senator said no," per ABC’s Terry Moran, Melinda Arons, and Katie Escherich.

Continue reading today's Note by clicking HERE.

ABC News' Rachel Humphries, John Santucci and Alexa Ainsworth contributed to this report.

July 22, 2008 in Hunter, Duncan, Kucinich, Dennis, Tancredo, Tom, Thompson, Fred | Permalink | User Comments (106)

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I don't like either of the candidates forced on us. I would pick Nader or Gravel personally, but between McCain and Obama, it's a no brainer that Obama is the superior candidate. He is infinitely more intelligent & level headed than McCain. He's not prone to anger influenced decisions, nor does he make decisions based on knee-jerk reactions to calamities like all the republicans did on 9/11. Such knee-jerk reactions are what got us into this mess in Iraq.

Now we have given the GOP 8 years to run the country properly, in 8 yrs, the country has gone from respected, economically healthy to become the world's whipping boy and black sheep.

I think it's time to give the new guy on the block a chance. The old ways of blind hatred, fear, and greed are going away to make way for a more enlightened, honorable, and tempered way of leading.

GOD HELP US ALL IF IT'S ANOTHER GOP TERM.

Posted by: Viet Tran | Jul 22, 2008 9:28:32 AM

one more time

200,000,000,000 dollars

and we may have made it worse in the long run.

Posted by: dl | Jul 22, 2008 9:29:58 AM

M.Slate said:
'We will probally elect Jimmy Carter II with a tan.'

Please keep your racism (and poor grammar) to yourself.

Posted by: Bill | Jul 22, 2008 9:32:41 AM

The NYT rejected McLame's opt-ed
for precisely the reasons they clearly stated. McBush does not spell out what his foreign policy strategy for Iraq, Iran or Afghanistan.Secondly he does not clarify any of his positions on energy, education, healthcare or infrastructre renewal. Lastly it is a bit unseemly that an Old warrior can only whine like a baby that the media isn't giving McCan't the same coverage. I say the MSM has given a free ride of sorts, with all the gaffes and missteps of McSame & his campaign. I can only hope that McBush gets his wish and gets more coverage and scrutiny. i.e. McBush stated Monday about the serious problems on the border between Iraq and Pakistani border. Unfortunately there is no such border, just like there is no Czechoslavakia. Just imagine what the media hoopla would be if Obama had made any of these gaffs, the media would have labeled him as inexpierienced, naive and not CinC material. Talk about a double standard. I hope the media will start doing it's job and stop Giving McWhiner a free pass , give McWhiner the coverage & Scrutiny he really deserves!
An expert in foreign policy is MacCain not!
Obama 08

Posted by: James | Jul 22, 2008 9:33:55 AM

I have to chuckle everytime I turn on the TV or pick up a newspaper. The media helped to wipe Hillary off the map while playing down the importance of McCain's role in all of this and propping up Obama on the pedestal they made for him. Obama is a typical politican, with absolutely no concern for anyone but himself. Change? Hardly. In a way, I hope Obama gets elected so that all of you short-sided morons following this pied piper will finally have to eat your own words.

This entire fiasco drove me to register as an Independent. I've lost faith in America and its values and am not sure if it will ever take root again.

Posted by: DMRJR | Jul 22, 2008 9:34:45 AM

So Mr. Obama visited Anbar.
I wonder what made that possible?

Posted by: SMB | Jul 22, 2008 9:37:08 AM

Experience, unfortunately, isn't everything and is trumped everytime by intelligence and a sound mind. This week McCain has confused Iraq w/ Afganistan and Sudan w/ Somalia (and it's only Tuesday). I don't have enough time to go over all the other foreign policy gaffes he has made this year and that's his strongpoint they say.
McCain would be a nightmare as president. He has flip-flopped on too many issues and can't be trusted by the American people. As a true Replublican, I cannot bring myself to vote for this guy.

Posted by: True Blue | Jul 22, 2008 9:37:09 AM

"how is the world can obama still say he still would have been opposed to the surge knowing what he knows now. we are on a path to victory! and the press does not ask a follow-up to this???"

What is this "victory" that you and McCain, and Bush, and Runsfield keep talking about?

If you mean "victory" is Iraq becomeing a democracy and the bombing ending, don't hold your breath. The people in Iraq DO NOT think like americans, that is why they hate us. Their god tells them something is right, so they die to protect it. You can't teach these people anything new, they must come to these decisions on their own.

Posted by: Tim | Jul 22, 2008 9:38:44 AM

Ok, I used to be an Obama supporter, but I'm seeing a bigger and bigger disparity between how reporting on Obama is done and how reporting on McCain is done. Something isn't right here. The more this keeps happening, the more I think there's a deliberate manipulation or obfuscation of pertinent information and analysis about Obama. It's plainly obvious this is going on when reporters try to give Obama praise for something he was against from the start. It's gotten so out of hand I had to go check out Bob Barr, which actually seems to be a great mix of liberal and conservative values.

Posted by: Cloud | Jul 22, 2008 9:41:42 AM

They can have Obama after the voters reject him in November.

Posted by: geevill | Jul 22, 2008 9:45:10 AM

Treated as libirators? LOL They are asking us to leave....BIG differences but hey just another area where McCain showed poor judgement in his call.

Posted by: Grissom | Jul 22, 2008 9:46:11 AM

The world will view American as the great country she once was after we elect Obama in November! What a great feeling that will be! After the last 8 years of embarresment of the Cowboy Circus Clown and his bottom feeding buddy! and now we just have to shuffle the unethical Johnny Boy off the world stage before he makes ANOTHER gaffe by relating to countries that don't exist!

Posted by: Grissom | Jul 22, 2008 9:48:47 AM

Is it true that the biggest component of the "Surge Operation" that no one speaks about is the fact that we are giving hundreds of millions of dollars to the insurgents not to fight?

Posted by: Brian | Jul 22, 2008 9:49:30 AM

I saw this comment elsewhere today and thought it was about right. "A PREDICTION: If Barack Obama is elected President, he'll be far more warlike than President Bush, and far more warlike than his pre-election rhetoric suggests. Because before he's elected President, attacks on America are just attacks on America. But after he's elected President, attacks on America will also be attacks on Barack Obama.

And Keith Olbermann will describe the mushroom cloud over Tehran as "awesome in its rampant Technicolor beauty.""

Posted by: bct424 | Jul 22, 2008 9:50:20 AM

This "campaign" is like a ball game with the media as corrupt referees.
They're throwing the game, but there's no one to call them on it.

Posted by: phil | Jul 22, 2008 9:50:39 AM

The truth is Americans are afraid that McCain's mind is not all there.

He's like the uncle we love, but we've been watching him make mental mistake after mental mistake.

Here's just a few...
1) Sunni/Shiite slip up. Corrected by Lieberman, only to make the same exact slip up a couple days later in front of middle east leaders.
2) Troop size in Iraq is down to pre-surge levels, when it was actually above.
3) For 15 years, McCain has repeatedly referred to Czechoslovakia. It cost him the 2000 election, so one would think he would learn but he hasn't.
4) Talking about Iraq/Pakistan border, but they do not border each other.
5) Singing bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
6) One week McCain says the surge didn't effect Afghanistan because more troops are not needed. The next week, saying we need 2-3 new brigades there and soon.
7) Asked about Viagra and birth control, only to see his eyes bulge out and pause for 7 seconds.
8) McCain's blow up at a female reporter when she asked about McCain and Kerry in 2004.
9) McCain ripping Obama for missing a vote, only to be told that McCain also missed the same vote.


The list goes on and on.

Posted by: Dan | Jul 22, 2008 9:50:47 AM

Difference between Obama supporters and McCain supporters is that the Obama supporters use the facts to show McCain as unable to lead while the McCain supporters have to use anologies with no basis in facts. How sad for you guys! LOLOLOLOL

OBAMA 08

Posted by: Grissom | Jul 22, 2008 9:51:12 AM

Consistency being the hobgoblin of little minds, perhaps you liberals could grace us with an explanation for the following: Reid, Pelosi and the usual gang of idiots (including Barack Obama) declared the Iraq War "lost", while Obama (before purging his web site) said the surge would not work. Now that the surge has worked, these same liberal morons are braying that the surge was unnecessary because we were winning anyway. Well, what is it morons? Were we winning anyway or was the war lost? The libs are such pathological liars they cannot even keep their story straight.

Posted by: marc christophe | Jul 22, 2008 9:53:03 AM

OBAMA said our terrific soldiers only succeeded because of the Sunni awakening----and he said it to the world. According to OBAMA our military is a failure and maybe that is why he will not put an American Flag on his plane!

Posted by: Anne | Jul 22, 2008 9:56:41 AM

I really don't understand the almost religious belief in and adoration of Obama from the media. But then I didn't understand it when they were doing the same thing for W either. And look where that got us! Maybe it's time to start going in the opposite direction from the media. Their track record is not that good.

Posted by: Charlie35 | Jul 22, 2008 9:58:38 AM

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