againgo read the Crime BillBiden just introduced three days ago...

It is the same idea without the police state overtones...

and Bush promised to Veto it when Biden introduced it...I wonder if he'll say the same to John Mccain?

On occasion, the military has been brought in to quell rioting and after disasters. The latest was in Chicago in Obama's home area. Yea, Obama knows how to make enemies shake hands and become peaceful. LOL

Mary: Those troops are National Guards they belong to the State. Us Military are Federal Troops. Inform yourself" Posse Comitatus Act" Google it.

Mary - not the military but rather the National Guard. For the military to be brought in, martial law must be declared.

I don't think we've seen the military quelling domestic riots since the draft riots during the Civil War in New York City.

dl - Biden came up with this daffy idea? I'm not a huge Biden fan, but I find that hard to believe.

an occupation that is sure to ignite an insurgency - good answer McCain, lingering POW reaction

biden

offers 50000 police...and a 1000 new fbi

Mccain offers military

either one has to be paid

and the crime bill is expected to pass like the last what 5 bills that biden authored that he was able to get bipartisan support for.

It's not a daffy idea..."homeland" security is where we should be focused on...not securing by going to war overseas.

I should say Biden's crime Bill has a good shot of passing congress... but Bush said he would veto it.

but he just gave speech on this three days ago...

look at what Biden has done in the past two months...

even if you are not a Biden "fan" both sides of congress and the white house have been giving him props for being the only one getting things through this impass of a body.

Is not the National Guard envolved in our wars overseas. Sorry, but I do consider them part of the military and so does my friend who was a member of the Guard. And yes, I know they are supposed to be controlled by their home state. And yes, they wear uniforms and are trained much like our other military.
Think someone is splitting hairs.

I agree with McCain on this one. I lived in Detroit from 1982–1989. A surge would have helped tremendously there. There are so many other parts of our country that could use it now- cities where people can't walk down their own street without getting shot. That's not right. These dangerous neighborhoods need ALL the help they can get.

There are plenty of police serving in Iraq right now that will come home and be on are streets and I say great maybe are city's will become safe again.

dl - we're all for homeland security, just like all of us are for fiscal responsibility, strong families, etc.

The question is how we achieve that. Declaring martial law - which is what is legally required to apply the Iraq model to American cities - strikes me as a daffy idea at this time.

Martial law has its place. Its always an option maintained by the federal government. Fortunately we haven't found the need to use it often.

Mary - the National Guardsmen overseas have been federalized. When not in that status, they belong to their respective governors and are legally not exempted from performing law enforcement duties.

You guys really want to drive down the street past armed military personnel on a regular basis?

Wow. Maybe the terrorists have won.

Well, to be fair to McCain, he didn't actually say military personnel. He just said tactics similar to those used by military personnel during the surge in Iraq.

Then again, clamping down on the "known criminals" raises questions about McCain's respect for due process and all that.

BTW:

Bush lowered length of tours in Iraq but I bet they will increase in Afghanistan.

Also, we gave Iraq to Iranian influence and now we will help Iran again by fighting Sunni al Qaedda militants. Al Qaedda and Sunnis--Pakistan dislike Shiites--religion of Iranian Islam.

To recap: we invaded Iraq and made it more of an Iranian puppet state. We will go to Afghanistan to fight Sunni millitants and who will benefit from the creation of this buffer? Iran.

Bush/McCain is 2 for 2 on the Iranian side!

Mr. Coffee - that's been my question since we invaded Iraq. When did we become surrogates for Iran? you know those guys in Tehran have just been sitting back for the last few years laughing at us.

From the Courier-Journal in Indiana:

INDIANAPOLIS - In a speech in front of the National Sheriffs Association convention, John McCain touted his tough stance on Crime.

Some Sheriffs condemned the speech, saying McCain has not been a friend to law enforcement, voting against past programs to bolster the number of officers on the street.

"John McCain offered America's law enforcement community a staggering display of hypocrisy and double talk, after decades of voting against effective and responsible efforts to keep our communities safe, put more police officers on our streets and provide law enforcement agencies the resources they need to fight crime, Sen. McCain tried to claim credit for the very programs he repeatedly opposed."

He has also voted to block the ban of assault weapons, that are making it onto our streets and killing both police and our citizens...

Now he wants a Military style "surge" to combat crime in our cities, does this mean he will now vote to ban the assault weapons, finally??

Looks like McSenile flip flopper is at it again...

Obama '08!!

I have nothing really against the Iranians as such but they are political rivals in a key area.

We are doing their dirty work.

Saddam, especially his sons was a dictator among the lowest order but there were no al Qaedda in Iraq before the invasion. The Kurds were happy. The Iraqi people were no in great shape but I bet the majority of the Sunnis were better off. The Shiites were in worse shape but they are only happier now because of the impending closer relationship with Iran once we declare "victory"/ "peace with honor" [if you care google the phrase peace with honor] and pull out.

I would think Bush would have been one of the better regarded leaders if he had just attacked al Qaedda after 9-11. I was cheering for him in some sense because he did what was needed then he dropped the ball big time in Iraq.

The end result of all this is that we removed a threat from Iran's eastern border and are protecting their western border. And McCain is singing "bomb Iran" -- how clueless.