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Is the Veepstakes Blunting Obama's Attacks?

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August 20, 2008 12:46 AM

ABC News' Andy Fies Reports: The fog of speculation over who will accompany Sen. Barack Obama down the aisle in Denver has obscured his message.

Usually a candidate can expect a fair amount of attention for delivering forceful remarks in a proverbial "lion's den" of his opponent's friends.

Obama told the McCain-friendly VFW convention in Orlando Tuesday that the Arizona senator had better back off questioning his patriotism. "Let me be clear," he said. "I will let no one question my love of this country."

He also sharply challenged McCain's judgement in the war on terror: "For all of his talk about following Osama bin Laden to the Gates of Hell, Sen. McCain refused to join my call to take out bin Laden across the Afghan border...."

And he added: "If we think that we can secure our country by just talking tough without acting tough and smart, then we will misunderstand this moment."

There was much more but it hardly mattered.

The three networks led their broadcasts with the Veepstakes story. On the wires, Obama-in-front-of-Vets was no match for Obama-and-his-Veeps. That story had six rewrites by 6pm. The speech challenging McCain on what has become a major character issue in this election had only two.

Tonight on MSNBC, Dan Abrams led a discussion about Obama's use of the pronoun "he" instead of "she" when asked to describe the qualities he wanted in a running mate.

John McCormick, the Obama reporter for the Chicago Tribune said the VFW story would figure in "somewhere at the bottom" of his Tuesday piece which was all about the coming VP selection.  He added, "And that (section) will probably get cut down."

Regardless of whether the media is leading or responding to interest in who will be veep, the frenzy is predictable. This is one of the last major unknowns of the campaign.

There are no doubt compelling reasons for the time it has taken Obama to choose his running mate.  The question is, has he paid a price for his deliberateness? 

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For the main stream media Obama is the black man that gets arrested in the beginning of the local news at night. The more negative the media can get when it comes to him the better for their ratings. The media is selling America down the river. Just like they did with the Iraq war!

That's it media. Keep making white people scared of Obama and say NOTHING about McCain. Help us to continue to loose our homes, son and daughters in this war and gut our jobs away. When the economy goes under and we are all in real trouble all of these Obama haters will deserve what they get! DO NOT complain when you get BUSH 3. You deserve it! You voted for it!

Posted by: Erik | Aug 20, 2008 1:11:25 AM

Obama and his team are wet behind the ears. They reek of inexperience.

Posted by: RL | Aug 20, 2008 1:15:31 AM

We could care less who he chooses for VP.

We, the 28% Hillary supporters, are not flip floppers ... Country before Party

Hillary for President or
MCCAIN for President.

What doesn't the Obama people understand in that?
What doesn't the media understand in that?
What doesn't the DNC understand in that?

Posted by: WhoCaresWhoHisVPIs | Aug 20, 2008 1:17:33 AM


other people dont care to hear you rant and rave about puma anymore!!
what dont you understand about that??

Posted by: melissa | Aug 20, 2008 1:23:21 AM

The fact of the matter is that black people are among the most patriotic people there are in this country.
Blacks have suffered abused, mistreatment, misunderstanding,and persecution. They could have moved to a more welcome place to be...yet, they forgave and they stayed.
I don't know that white people would have done the same. I do not know that they would have forgiven.
We owe much to them. It is time to stop talking about patriotism or the lack of it.

Republicans should be embarrassed.

I for one, cannot live another 4 years of a corrupt republican government.

We need to vote Democrat in this election.

Posted by: Andy | Aug 20, 2008 1:23:30 AM

Democrats for 2008!!

Posted by: Alma | Aug 20, 2008 1:25:50 AM

Yes, we also dont care who he chooses for VP.

DOnt care what he has to say ... Dont care how big his smile is .. Dont care to hear any speeches from him ... Dont care about the wonderful things CNN and MSNBC has to say about him. The more CNN promotes him, the more nauseating he becomes to the rest of us.

NO Obama 08 is an understatement !!

Democrats for MCCAIN ... !!!!!
Party Unity My A$$, you are right on ..

Posted by: WhoDontCareAsWell | Aug 20, 2008 1:26:00 AM

That's what you think ...

Obama is not pulling away is he?

Sure PUMA matters

Sure the 28 % Hillary supporters matter.

GO MCCAIN GO ... !!!!!

Posted by: WishfulThinking | Aug 20, 2008 1:28:48 AM


Im going to be shocked if anyone in the republican party would be willing to be vp to mccain.

who is going to want to stand next to a man who jokes about cancer when we have so many people that die from it in our own country? who is going to want to stand by mccain when he says we are all mental if we think the economy is bad?

and he doesnt ever learn from his own ignorance!

Posted by: melissa | Aug 20, 2008 1:29:54 AM

We the 28% Hillary supporters are DETERMINED to help MCCAIN win ...

GO MCCAIN GO !!!!!!

Posted by: GOMCCAINGO | Aug 20, 2008 1:30:49 AM


GOMCCAINGO- then whisper in his ear to shut up he is making himself look like a back end every time he opens up his trap!

Posted by: melissa | Aug 20, 2008 1:32:49 AM

Talking about your man are you?

Posted by: Who?BO | Aug 20, 2008 1:33:48 AM

Like BO so much, take him home with you and keep him there forever.

Spare the rest of us please.

Posted by: TakeHimHomeWithU | Aug 20, 2008 1:34:56 AM

Andy, why don't you vote for an Indian-American?? I think we owe them so much more than Blacks. We nearly wiped out all of their people. Your statement is just as stupid as it sounds. There are patriotic citizens, blacks or whites or other colors in this country but there are also radical liberals are unpatriotic who are also coming difference races. Meaning most of blacks are patriotic but that doesn't mean obama is one of them. No president contender should even need to be defending about their patriotism but obama always has to. And that gotta tell you something. What makes people question his patriotism and why does he keep defending it?? Make you wonders.

Posted by: hannah | Aug 20, 2008 1:35:27 AM

i take care of people with Alzheimer's who have more intellect than mccain!

Posted by: melissa | Aug 20, 2008 1:37:08 AM

Melissa, your statement makes me glad that you're an obamaniac.

Posted by: hannah | Aug 20, 2008 1:41:49 AM

"We could care less who he chooses for VP."
I agreed because he isn't chosen by us, the 18 millions Hillary supporters.

Posted by: stock_craft | Aug 20, 2008 1:44:28 AM

All the hype about who Obama chooses for VP.

WHO CARES!!!!!

WE CARE LESS WHO THE H*LL he chooses for VP and WE CARE LESS WHAT HE IS DOING, WHERE HE IS SPEAKING ...

DONT CARE ONE BIT ...
GET THAT?

Posted by: DONT CARE ABOUT HIS VP | Aug 20, 2008 1:51:05 AM

Too busy soliciting votes for MCCAIN to be bothered who Obama chooses for his VP.

CNN can hype that all they want ... WHO IS LISTENING? Cause we aren't

Does not matter who he chooses for VP.
MCCAIN for President.
NO OBAMA FOR US, THE 28% HILLARY SUPPORTERS.
At least, we are not a flip flopper like BO.

Posted by: MCCainNow | Aug 20, 2008 1:53:47 AM

In my 49 years I cannot remember a Presidential candidate EVER having to prove his patriotism because of questionable past/associations. Or a web site to stop the smears. Where there is smoke there IS fire.
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!

Posted by: Debra | Aug 20, 2008 1:57:32 AM

WHERE THERE IS DOUBT, err on Caution !!!!!

Imagine a candidate who needs his mother, his sister and his wife to vouch for him in his Convention ?

Like a criminal locked up in jail needing his mother, his sister and his wife to vouch for him in court?

A mother will say wonderful things about a killer son, no matter what.

NO OBAMA 08 is COMMON SENSE ... !!

Another Hillary Supporter for MCCAIN .

Let us do EVERYTHING to help MCCAIN WIN.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY.


Posted by: CountryBeforeParty | Aug 20, 2008 2:06:09 AM

Too busy soliciting votes for MCCAIN to be bothered who Obama chooses for his VP.

They are probably really hard to come by. I bet it just pisses you off that your going to lose in November. You probably shouldn't work your self up to much. Your right about not caring because it really doesn't matter. mccain still going to lose.

Posted by: DJ in Silver Spring | Aug 20, 2008 2:36:44 AM

I will be volunteering in McCain offices for the next three months and do everything I can to get him elected...HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN...STRAIGHT TALK EXPRESS, unlike the "nuanced" Obama as he's referred to after the Saddleback faith forum.

Posted by: Debra | Aug 20, 2008 2:39:21 AM

I am simply not understanding this, the 28% Hillary supporters. WHY in the name of GOD would you vote for McCain??? Just because you're disappointed that Hillary lost the primaries by a narrow margin?? I've heard of sour grapes, but this is INSANE!! I watched the primaries, and Obama held many of the same policy positions Hillary did; they only differed in the manner of how they planned to execute said policies. McCain has been walking in lock-step with Bush for months now. You worked so hard for Hillary in the primaries because you didn't want the four more years of Bush that McCain represents. For Hillary supporters to vote for McCain spits on everything she's ever stood for. Way to show your support!

This is a free country; you're allowed to vote for whomever you choose. But keep this in mind; when McCain gives the order to attack Iran and everything explodes in the Middle East, the blood will be on YOUR hands.

When our economy goes down the toilet because McCain follows Bush's example and favors corporations over middle class and working Americans; when more and more American jobs are lost overseas; when more people lose everything; you won't have to go far to find out who to blame. Just go into your bathroom and look in the mirror.

Posted by: Traci | Aug 20, 2008 3:08:45 AM

Obama's numbers are dwindling fast and his electoral lead is all but evaporated. No wonder the Obama team wants to change the subject. They are sounding really worried. Even David Gergen thinks so.

Yeeehaw. Love it!!

Posted by: Jo | Aug 20, 2008 3:13:51 AM

obama and his supporters are sounding really, really, desperate as obama goes into free-fall in the polls.

his only salvation is hillary.

his lead is slip, slipping, away. today cnn reports obamas lead has diminished by half!


Posted by: sonia trevino | Aug 20, 2008 3:24:59 AM

and remember the loudest voices saying they were for Hillary on this site WERE republicans who voted for George Bush first...

back in the primaries they stated that trying to use it as a way to threaten they were voting for hillary and we would lose those cross overs that came from Bush

so don't be fooled the same people who brought you George W Bush, D!ck Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, Gonzales, and Scooter and Rove are now on here telling you they will "fight for three months" to bring you John McCain.

America's smarter than that

Posted by: dl | Aug 20, 2008 3:49:36 AM

John McCain, experience? Let's think about this one:

Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bush tons of experience there, but where did it get us? The U.S. is 10 TRILLION in debt, we are fighting two wars (one half hearted, the other entirely unnecessary), our reputation in the world community is in the dumper, tens of thousands are losing their homes, the cost of living is going up every day, the dollar is collapsing in world currency markets, and meanwhile inflation has risen from the dead and is starting to make its grand comeback right here at home.

Experience?

Folks we need much more than experience in our nation's highest office. We need brilliance! We need judgement like we've never had in the nation's capital before. We need insight for nearly the entire spectrum of human affairs. We need a president with real wisdom of leadership, and we need it NOW, or else I fear that soon, everything we dearly value will only be a memory.

We CERTAINLY need someone who can do far more than punch out shallow one-liners and 40 year old war stories. Drilling and nuclear plants will NOT solve our economic ailments, just as we can not bomb our way to a resolution of every international issue.

So who will be McCain's VP selection? Does it really matter in this case?

To quote a snippet of Jack Cafferty's recent blog post, "Where are John McCain's writings exploring the vexing moral issues of our time? Where are his position papers setting forth his careful consideration of foreign policy, the welfare state, education, America's moral responsibility in the world, etc., etc., etc.?

John McCain graduated 894th in a class of 899 at the Naval Academy at Annapolis. His father and grandfather were four star admirals in the Navy. Some have suggested that might have played a role in McCain being admitted. His academic record was awful. And it shows over and over again whenever McCain is called upon to think on his feet."

Do YOU really want another one, just like the other one?

Posted by: joe | Aug 20, 2008 4:32:46 AM

It does not matter who he chooses as long as it is not Hillary Clinton. Hillary will help him win and he would like him to lose so Hillary can contest in 2012.

Barack Obama is a fringe-left candidate.

Posted by: Roger Miller | Aug 20, 2008 4:41:45 AM

To anyone who thinks that supporting McCain will position H. Clinton for a win in 2012, consider this: how much party support will Clinton receive if she and her supporters don't help the party's 2008 choice? And while I have your attention, do me a favor: look up the word "petulant."

Posted by: Steve | Aug 20, 2008 5:12:59 AM

No its no the veeps that are blunting the attacks, its that the attacks are lame and Obama has turned to everything he has railed against.

Posted by: rachel | Aug 20, 2008 5:37:31 AM

If Barack Obama and the DNC does not realize that they are missing a big chunk of the Democratic primary voters (and the poll numbers are making it pretty darn obvious now) then THEY deserve ALL the blame if Democrats lose in November.

If BHO can't even bring his own party together, then that sort of proves he certainly doesn't have the leadership skills to bring America together, right?

I will be voting for Hillary Clinton in November.

Barack Obama and the DNC have the chance right now, before we have a set ballot, to make my vote count... by putting her name on it.

Don't blame me if the DNC completely ignores my voice now and so I completely ignore them when I vote.
I don't jump for a political party. The way a democracy works, the political party listens to the voters. If the DNC choses not to listen to the voters, so be it; then they deserve to lose those voters.

If the DNC loses this election in November, blame the DNC for hand-picking the candidate who (1) didn't get the most votes; (2) lost the battleground states; and (3) has the thinnest resume of any candidate... and then didn't have the guts to put on the ballot the candidate who (1) got the most votes; (2) won the battleground states; and (3) has the thickest resume of any candidate.

Posted by: Jan | Aug 20, 2008 6:24:43 AM

I think the underlying message of this piece to be fair is that the media atren't interested in what candidates have to say they are interested in the horse race. (I think thats why the Democratic Primaries were so compelling mind, because it was a great horse race.)

But as interesting as the VP pick is, we have no idea, especially on the Democratic side, about how accurate the information the media are giving us is. Even the short list we currently have seems to be uncertain (for ages it was just Kaine, Bayh and Biden, now some people add Sebelius' name, some don't??) It might easily be that someone completely differnet is the pick. I thnk we have had enough speculation. Get on with reporting what is happening on the campaign, not waht might be happening.

Posted by: markymark | Aug 20, 2008 6:45:45 AM

No.

Posted by: Thinking | Aug 20, 2008 7:27:50 AM

Just took a shot at the polls. Is not that the Veepstakes are blunting Obama's attacks but Hillary supporters are undermining him. Look at the new Ohio poll, only 77% Democrats supporting Obama. he is winning the independent votes in all categories but the problem is the Democrats. Now am asking what did Obama really do to Hillary Clinton during the primaries? For all I can remember, it was Hillary Clinton attacking Obama to the very end or was it as a result of his supporters?The way i see it, Obama should foget about Ohio and co and concentrate on Colorado,Nevada, Iowa, Virginia and New Mexico. those are his only hopes for victory. What a shame? I thought this was going to be Slam dunk? The way I see it if Obama loses, I see his supporters and blacks coming back in 2012 to pay back the Democrats.

Posted by: vuzous | Aug 20, 2008 8:24:04 AM

Quote.....I am simply not understanding this, the 28% Hillary supporters. WHY in the name of GOD would you vote for McCain??? Just because you're disappointed that Hillary lost the primaries by a narrow margin?? I've heard of sour grapes, but this is INSANE!! I watched the primaries, and Obama held many of the same policy positions Hillary did; they only differed in the manner of how they planned to execute said policies....end quote.
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It's really very simple. We trust Hillary. We do NOT trust Obama. Talk is cheap and easy. And he hasn't had enough actions to back to back it up.

Posted by: charlie35 | Aug 20, 2008 8:45:06 AM

Why would anyone think the media would report news, strong messages when gossip and speculation (non news) are much more stylish? Pathetic!!!

Posted by: Lou R | Aug 20, 2008 9:12:47 AM

The UNITED Stated of America...Nothing United about us.... History has taught us nothing and recent history even less; Our leaders seem to relish in our anger towards each other because it points us away from reality, meanwhile we get it where the Sun don"t shine.
MY FRIENDS...May God Help Us.

Posted by: Chet | Aug 20, 2008 11:40:09 AM

It doesn't matter if you trust Hillary. What matters are the policies of the party behind the candidate. This is not a beauty contest! I have to believe these pro -Hillary comments are from GOP operatives. No one else could be so shortsighted and obtuse. Forget about the candidates for a minute and concentrate on the policies.

As far as experience Obama strikes me as someone who will surround himself with the best and brightest minds whereas McCain appears like a puppet to shadowy backroom interests. But hey, I'm the same age as Obama so how could I know anything about the world. I wish I could say "elect your doddering old president and sod off", except America insists on meddling in the affairs of a lot of countries so to some degree he will be my president too. I am not afraid of Democrats and Obama like a lot of people in America, but then again you live in a culture of manufactured fear... time to shift paradigms (after you look up the meaning of the word...)

Posted by: Mike Robinson | Aug 20, 2008 11:59:36 AM

Mike Robinson...You state that Hillary supporters, or comments are GOP operatives, NOT TRUE..perhaps unlike some other countries, WE ARE ALLOWED TO CROSS PARTY LINES..WE LIVE IN A DE-MOC-RA-CY. Some voters feel that HRC shows experience in White House politics and would make a better President than either Obama and McCain; however since HRC was not the nominee we next have to turn to the two candidates available. I prefer government EXPERIENCE and of course policies..Obama is too far left, and I DO NOT TURST THE PEOPLE HE HAS SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH that would truly hold America first..As far as your insults ie "doddering old president and sod off," which seem to prevail of late within the international community, I can only say ...will actually nothing..I will let your comments speak for themselves and consider the source, others will decide for themselves how to take your insults as this is a de-moc-ra-cy..........

Posted by: CuriousIndep | Aug 20, 2008 12:57:40 PM

yeah I hear you . WE here in Florida are against Obama too.

In the Tampa Bay area we are mobilizing and also across the other side of the state in Orlando against OBAma.

Go Michigan and Florida, if we as two states go against him, he can't win.

NOBAMA 08!

Posted by: hoopER doopER | Aug 20, 2008 5:25:26 PM

Erik: White people are not afraid of Obama. What is there to be afraid of. Obama is not black or white he is Mulatto. Didn't you learn that in school? And the economy is not the president's fault. It is the fault of the businesses raising their prices, the oil industry, the grocery stores and those that are losing their homes is because they didn't put 25% or more down payment. The mortgage companies are responsible for letting people buy with homes with only 5 to 10% down making the payments extremely high so what happens later on the mortgagee cannot meet the payments and the lose their home. Bush is not responsible for what the mortgage companies do. Obama will not be able to fix the economy either if elected. He doesn't have any experience in politics, foreign policy and he needs a VP that can train him.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Aug 20, 2008 10:11:26 PM

I just finished reading everyone's take on what the USA needs.
I personally think that it is sad and pathetic the way we all treat each other. People are filled with so much anger. To read how Hillary supporters are going to vote for McCain, makes me question the intelligence of her supporters. Why in the world would they put a republican in office for another 4 years just to show their anger with the way things turned out for Hillary. This should not be about getting revenge. This is about uniting as a party and voting for the candidate for your party - Democrat or Republican.
Grow up!

Posted by: mary | Aug 21, 2008 5:03:21 PM

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