and Obama believes babies surviving abortions are not living humans.

Why is it heightened rhetoric by the Democratic Senator against his Republican opponent whenever Obama says anything.

It was a dumb thing to say on McCain's part, and does warrant a comment or two from Obama.

Obama didn't mistate anything here - McCain is really out of touch with regular folks when it comes to economic policies. His tax plan does favor the wealthy, like his wife and best bud, Phil Gramm. I hope people pay attention or we will all be sorry if we allow the Bush policies to continue.

Why does Obama do this; does he think everyone has his playground mentality? Grow up. He can joke and say $25 million but somehow McCain can't joke and say $5 million? Maybe instead of focusing in on that he could focus in on giving a direct answer to when conception starts. Not only does he lack judgment, maturity isn't a strong suit either.

More mccain humor? I'm not laughin'. This is a serious issue this election and the hero laughs it off - but drones on and on with old war stories. Frankly I don't give a rip - what is your perception of rich mr mccain? It's a pocketbook issue, and it matters to me. His disregard for serious issues and attention paid to hooey like claiming Obama wants to lose in Iraq to win an election is insulting. What a ridiculously ignorant thing for any american to say - yet the joker is applauded for it. It's a disgrace to hear comments like that coming from mccain. Tawdry and petty and truly dishonable - mccain must have traded his character for the gop nomination. Cut through the crap and listen to the policies of these candidates - do your own research and fact checking because the msm and campaigns sure aren't going to do it for you. You're being fed pretty pictures - good stories - not reality.

Obama seems to have lost his hope and change in the gutter.

I think the 5 million comment by McCain may have been the biggest gaffe of the night overall. I actually think a lot of what McCain said could be used to make the 3rd Bush term argument. I think a tag line on a number of ads based on that forum could be along the lines of 'Don't just change the face, change direction.'

McCain's health plan calls for the taxing of employer-paid health insurance benefits as regular income. Just another method to benefit the rich corporations at the expense of the middle and lower classes. And he claims that Obama is going to raise taxes?

geevill - you're proof to the contrary, huh?

McCain owns 7- over 1 million dollar homes across the U.S., wears $540 shoes, and wants to kill Social Security while he still accepts his social security check. This guy has no idea what the average person is facing today. I hope the Middle Class will come out in full force against this Elitist who only cares for the wealthy.

"and Obama believes babies surviving abortions are not living humans."

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At, at least Obama realizes that people dying in a made-up war of choice and spending billions of dollars in Iraq while Americans go without health care is morally worse than abortion. I see the right wing is intent on trying to make abortion an issue in this election...that might go over until Americans get their first heating bills of the season!

Neither of these guys are middle class, low income on anything in between, they are both rich and are both out of touch with people who struggle to pay the bills and put food on the table. I wonder the last time either of them had to worry about feeding and clothing their kids or go to a real job where they had to break a sweat????? They are both politiicans and both are probably crooked-I am waiting to see who they choose for v/p before deciding who I will vote for, but I think the media has already elected our next POTUS...unfortunately.

On the other hand, Obama said you may be poor if you make $150K per year. Do you really think he believes that or was he pandering to the middle class.

At what paygrade would Obama be able to answer the abortion question. Actually we already know the answer. Obama was the only one to vote against saving the lives of babies surviving botched abortions.

Obama is losing his message. He's not the same candidate who can continue camouflage with different colours and lies. Obama is still the most hypocritical candidate in US history. I am not glad I am part of it.

So, are any McCain supporters bothered by him seemingly just making up this story about a cross in the dirt?

Well, okay, plagiarizing isn't just making it up. To make up something requires a little creativity. But are you guys bothered by him using an episode from Solzhenitsyn’s book as his own experiences?

Just curious.

Geevil - Christians understand Obama's comment about paygrade.

Actually its refreshing to see a Christian candidate who reflects the humility at least my Church says we ought to have.

Obama doesn't claim to understand God and life. I'll take that over the false Bible thumpers who want to convince me they speak for God.

I respectfully disagree with Markymark. I think that the biggest gaffe of the evening was Obama's "above my pay grade" comment.

McCain's cross in the dirt story is a total fabrication. Actually he lifted it from Solzhenitsyn's book. McCain is lying or is imagining things which is even scarier. This man cannot be trusted with anything.