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August 24, 2008 12:16 PM

ABC News' Mary Bruce reports: Sen. Barack Obama's, D-Ill., chief strategist, David Axelrod, spoke out this morning against accusations that Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., was never vetted for the vice presidency.

"I can tell you, the first person that [Obama] sat down and talked to at all about this vice presidential issue was Sen. Clinton.  They had a discussion back in early June about it, and he spent more time with Sen. Clinton alone, talking about issues, than he has with Joe Biden or anyone else in the last couple of months.  So, that's simply not true," Axelrod explained in an exclusive interview on "This Week With George Stephanopoulos."

The McCain campaign pounced on the issue Sunday morning, releasing an ad attempting to rile up former Hillary supporters. "She won millions of votes. But isn't on his ticket. Why? For speaking the truth?" the ad asks amid clips of Clinton targeting Obama during the primary season.

Axelrod went on to explain why Obama opted for Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., instead of the former first lady: "[Obama] has a high regard for Sen. Clinton ... She's going to be an important voice in moving this country forward in the next administration.  But he felt that Sen. Biden would be the best fit for him at this time."

In a separate interview, former Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani questioned Obama's decision not to pick Clinton. "The strong choice would have been Hillary Clinton.  The obvious choice would have been Hillary Clinton," Giuliani said. "She had 50 percent of the Democratic vote.  Obama has 50 percent of the Democratic vote. You almost have to go to extraordinary lengths to avoid her as the vice presidential pick of the party."

"Sen. Obama has made a choice more out of weakness than strength," Giuliani continued.  "Don't go with your strongest candidate, and then go with a candidate that actually emphasizes all your weaknesses and has been quite vocal about them."

And while the former mayor of New York welcomed Biden "to this whole effort again," he made clear that he has no intention of joining him on the campaign trail as McCain's running mate. "I have not been, as far as I can tell, vetted, if they do tell you about that," he said. "I am certain that the candidate -- it's down to three or four candidates.  It is not me."

August 24, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (289)

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McCain is right. 18 million votes and she's not on the ticket-- or at least given right of first refusal? That cetainly seems like yet another stupid move. Defeat from the jaws of victory-- same old, same old...

Posted by: La Chatte | Aug 24, 2008 12:24:11 PM

It's the audacity of arrogance. Obama and his insular campaign is so full of themselves at this point, they won't acknowledge the person they almost lost the nomination to. And, to not even vet them or give them a serious look over? Interesting, no one is saying they vetted her...no one. And, Caroline Kennedy of all people should be ashamed for not doing so, given her own father when making his VP picked even realized he had to pick Johnson, someone he didn't like, for the sake of the party. And since the announcement? A two point bounce? The left wing of the Democratic party, those who basically caucused for Obama, have managed to pick the weaker candidate and that's shown in his pick of a more experienced candidate. Give me a break. And, come November, give me McCain.

Posted by: Jeffrey | Aug 24, 2008 12:38:46 PM

I am sorry the Republicans didn't get the Democratic VP they were strategizing against in Hillary Clinton. However, she is still available for McCain to choose as VP.....18 million voters would help him a lot don't you think? McCain-Clinton 08!

Posted by: dmac1 | Aug 24, 2008 12:39:13 PM

As far as I know, the nominee of either party has a right to choose his or her running mate. Senator Obama is not banned from making such selection as well. I am more than satisfied with Sen. Biden. He is a great democrat who has been figthing for democratic values since long before the Clintons jumped into the national stage. If experience is going to matter in this election, Sen. Biden has a resume that Hillary cannot even dream of. Obama-Biden '08

Posted by: carl29 | Aug 24, 2008 12:40:35 PM

This is the time for McCain to offer Hillary the VP spot on his ticket. What is holding him back? Isn't McCain a Maverick who doesn't mind going against his party's will? Isn't McCain a bipartisan politian? Isn't McCain a great friend of Hillary? So, I think it is time for McCain to pass from rethoric to action, and offer Hillary the VP nod on his ticket.

Has McCain vetted Hillary?

Posted by: carl29 | Aug 24, 2008 12:44:18 PM

Hillary is a loser!
Congratulation Obama for President!
Obama does not need Hilaary for anything as well as VIP.

lubujohn

Posted by: lubujohn | Aug 24, 2008 12:45:29 PM

As a Hillary supporter, I will pull the lever for McCain with glee as I hope for her run in 2012. We're gonna send smarty pants back to Chicago to live in his Rezko mansion.

Posted by: AmericanWoman | Aug 24, 2008 1:01:31 PM

What sort of impression do you Hillary Clinton supporters think you're making? Do you think you're coming off as thoughtful, and insightful? Or is it more likely you're coming off as spiteful children incapable of dealing with things as they actually are? Put some thought into it, and think it all the way through.

Posted by: CC | Aug 24, 2008 1:09:02 PM

I guess you all feel Hillary Clinton is so unknown that she would need a thorough vetting.

The fact is that Hillary said herself that she didn't want to be vetted unless she was going to be the selection. The non-vetting was to spare her and Bill the trouble of having all Bill's foundation donors come under scrutiny.

You Hillary people really need to relax. And I'm speaking as a former McCain supporter here, not as a long-time Obama guy.

Posted by: Red | Aug 24, 2008 1:18:14 PM

Ted Kennedy and his cohorts Kerry and Dashle wanted Obama as the nominee and rigged to superdelegates against Hillary; and Kennedy wanted Biden so Obama, being Kennedy's yes man, put Biden on the ticket.

Posted by: Doreen | Aug 24, 2008 1:20:42 PM

Doreen I would love to know where you got your info.

Posted by: d | Aug 24, 2008 1:24:59 PM

I am one Hillary supporter who will gladly vote for John McCain in november. Why will any sane person vote for that empty suit Obama?

Posted by: Iffymens | Aug 24, 2008 1:25:21 PM

im a conservative.... why do people think that hillary is more qualified to be put ahead of joe biden for ANYTHING?

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 1:27:35 PM

iffymens...

but i bet you would have voted for him if he chose hillary as his v.p. choice?

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 1:28:59 PM

NEWSFLASH:

Hillary didn't really want to be the VP!

Posted by: Red | Aug 24, 2008 1:30:32 PM

are you kidding me red??!! she didnt want to be, but she would have taken it in a heartbeat!!! its politics man!!! u think a clinton would turn down a promotion?!

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 1:31:47 PM

debra...

its pointless. the democrats have screwed it up again. even most obama supporters know he isnt qualified to be president, they just wont admit it. they are gonna ride it out into the sunset. none of it makes ANY sense, but you as a hillary supporter has to let it go. its over.

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 1:36:56 PM

JA...

yeah, obama is clueless.

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 1:37:41 PM

I saw an interview with the founder of PUMA.

She says she's not a republican, but she was a McCain supporter and donated to his campaign in 2000.

But anyway, can we PLEASE stop hearing about Hillary?
She hasn't said anything negative, and is obviously fine with Obama's choices.

Posted by: julie | Aug 24, 2008 1:38:20 PM

What is shocking is that McCain presumes that intelligent women can be so bitter about Clinton's loss of the primary that they are willing to vote against their own personal interests. Even if they aren't enthralled with Obama and feel cheated by the bizarre primary process, how can these women support a man who will overturn Roe v. Wade?, a man who has demonstrated his contempt for women through his coarse remarks even to his own wife? a man who promises to send their sons into more illegal wars? a man who has brought in Karl Rove the Cheney/Bush attack dog,, Ralph Reed the corrupt Christian Coalition leader and Phil Gramm of Texas/Enron fame to run his campaign?? Get real, recognize PUMA as a bunch of Rove stooges and move on -only Republicans could stomach a vote for McCain/Bush. It is simply the worst possible formula for the advancement of women's causes.

Posted by: jefflz | Aug 24, 2008 1:39:21 PM

well, lets not say she's fine with it.. lol she just has a career to worry about, but yes its over guys. let her go.

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 1:39:25 PM

wow, partisan politics is ruining america. cant we all just agree that BOTH of these guys are a joke??? can i just get ONE person to agree with me???!!!!

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 1:42:14 PM

Let's see...a lot of women are upset because their candidate, Hillary, LOST! They don't like Obama unless he offered the VP slot to that loser. So now they are mad! I think I can see who the REAL sexist minded people are. Get over it...she lost! Obama will also lose because a majority of Americans will not buy his BS! I told you she would lose to Obam months ago. She did! Now I'm telling you Obama will lose and I will be right in a couple months from now! It is nice to be right all the time!

Posted by: Ed | Aug 24, 2008 1:43:00 PM

I am a Clinton supporter, but my first choice will not be the candidate. This often happens after the primarys. As a loyal Democrat, I am prepared to support Barak Obama and work for his election. There is no Republican fit to lead this country now. (Well, maybe Colin Powel) After 8 years of this administration, even Daffy Duck could do better. Lets use our heads and put a Democrat in the White House.

Posted by: too old to be that stupid | Aug 24, 2008 1:45:30 PM

nobody in here is going to look at the big picture, stop rooting for their "team" and say both of these guys are a joke?? seriously??

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 1:46:12 PM

Its interesting that the republican are so disappointed that Obama did not pick Clinton as VP, could it be maybe because they would had a field day against her and Obama of all the negativity she carries with her ?

Posted by: joe | Aug 24, 2008 1:48:05 PM

ive heard what he's going to do: steal from the rich and give to the poor, and get as much government control over the american people as possible... oh lets not forget, possibly swear in 2 or 3 supreme court judges who are extremely liberal. yep. that pretty much sums it up. nothing too serious i guess...

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 1:49:10 PM

Please people! No true democrat would vote for McCain! Go ahead and say you will but understand you'll be voting against all your principles and women...forget about your right (we just will be reduced to what MEN allow us to have). So, you can go along and benefit McCain all you want and perhaps get what you want but you'll be hating life under a McCain administration. You'll all have yourselves to blame...oh, and your kids will be drafted into WWIII. Ok, that's what you'll get and unfortunately YOU PEOPLE will be the ones who deserve it...NOT ME. Republicans have NEVER FOOLED ME AND WILL NEVER IN THE FUTURE! Too bad you people are not as enlightened. GO BACK TO SCHOOL and learn the RIGHT WAY TO PROCESS INFORMATION!

Posted by: Kim of Arizona | Aug 24, 2008 1:50:17 PM

People need to see this is less about Hillary (I don't care what Obama "offers" her in his "cabinet" - he won't make it)....all you bots on here, mostly guys don't get that the Hillary supporters,like myself are more disgusted with bozo as the nominee - he is unacceptable as CIC. So yes, we love Hillary BUT WE CAN'T STAND OBAMA AS PREZ. Keep him in the Senate more than 143 day....do your time.....and even in 8 years...he'll still have Muslim fathers, Wright, Black Lib. theology angry Michelle, Rezko, Ayers, ANTI AMERICAN TIES DUE TO POOR JUDGEMENT.
John Sydney, never Barack Hussein

Posted by: Debra | Aug 24, 2008 1:51:22 PM

joe...

republicans are not disappointed that he didnt choose hillary, they are just trying to stir up hatred and divide the dems even more. matter of fact, most of them are happy he didnt choose her because of democrats strange love with the clintons. its just politics.

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 1:51:53 PM

ISNT CAROLINE NAMED SCHLOSSBERG? WHY DO THEY CALL HER KENNEDY.? THAT WAS HER MAIDEN NAME, WASNT IT?

Posted by: CON | Aug 24, 2008 1:52:47 PM

kim...

wow.

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 1:52:47 PM

"Why would anyone assume that Hillary's supporters are sore losers...has it crossed your minds that we could be devout Democrats who want what's best for this country?"

No what has crossed my miond is that many of you are Republicans who want what is best for Republicans. Sorry I just don't see where a Republican cares a thing about America.

Posted by: Thinking | Aug 24, 2008 1:53:39 PM

thinking.


wow.

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 1:54:57 PM

It is amazing that some people are still living in the past with some old burned out fruitcake like Hillary. She lost her credibility under sniper fire and by defending that pervert Bill for all his perverted weird stuff. That cigar thing still boggles my mind. The funniest thing to me is how some women still think she is so great. Pull your heads out of your rear ends and understand she is history! Vote for Obama or McCain or Nader or daffy duck as one of you said but quit bitchin' about it. I agree with jds that you all must be hell on earth to be around! It is like you are on the rag all the time!

Posted by: Ed | Aug 24, 2008 1:56:29 PM

its funny how politics have just become a game to so many of the american people. you already know how you're going to vote, so if you dont want to debate REAL issues, the why come in here? do you think you're going to get someone to switch their vote??!!

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 1:57:52 PM

The 18 million Hillary supporter have Bozo backers scared....only half her support will vote Bozo and the rest are split 25% for McCain and 11% undecided. The math isn't pretty for Dems and all the nasty comments towards Hillary supporters don't budge us any closer to Bozo support.
John Sydney, NEVER Barack Hussein

Posted by: Debra | Aug 24, 2008 1:59:56 PM

if McCain does not choose HRC as veep, it just proves again how truly feeble he is and that all that talk about being a "maverick" is just that... talk.

Posted by: nap time | Aug 24, 2008 2:00:02 PM

Mark Warner in 2012. Now that's a winner.

Posted by: d | Aug 24, 2008 2:00:23 PM

The Republicans sure know how to fool you! From reading these comments I'm ashamed to call you a friend of America...because you are not. Mr. 7 or so houses (MCCAIN)with his wealth and connections to Gramm (Enron, SUBPRIME LOANS), BUSH tax policies (including tax breaks for company's to move jobs offshore) and BIG OIL contributions to allow them huge tax breaks, more tough talk to leaders around the globe who hate us that will get us into war, the draft, and overturning ROE vs. WADE....WHAT ARE YOU WOMEN THINKING! Not to metion how OLD HE IS....WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM! WHY WOULD WOULD EVEN THINK VOTING FOR MCCAIN!!!! Oh, my lord........god save us all from the likes of the MISGUIDED!

OBAMA-BIDEN 08!

Posted by: Kim of Arizona | Aug 24, 2008 2:02:25 PM

Kathy, all the shots are the American voters to call. I'll await their decision in November.

Posted by: tiredtoo | Aug 24, 2008 2:02:31 PM

If she's so important, why doesn't McCain pick Hillary as his VP? He won't. Phony.

Posted by: McShame | Aug 24, 2008 2:04:32 PM

bronte...

yes, obama is a hypocrite. thats obvious. but do you actually think he would have had a shot in hell with his ultra left wing stance on the role of government??!! there is such a small minority of people in the country that actually agree with those marxist views. he HAD to sell out.

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 2:06:19 PM

brontebroussard

"Thinking...about what"

How disenginuous you are. How you pretend to be somebody, or something you are not.

Posted by: Thinking | Aug 24, 2008 2:06:54 PM

I will write-in Hillary - in my state (VA), if the candidate registers to receive the votes, it will go to the write-in candidate - otherwise, it is registered as a vote of protest - benefiting neither candidate - and I will have no blood on my hands for the next 4 years.

Posted by: jb | Aug 24, 2008 2:07:38 PM

When I watched Obama and Biden on stage, I thought "omigod, the wrong man is running for President!" Obama looks so young, callow and inexperienced compared to his own VP. Of course, he would have looked young, callow and inexperienced next to Hillary as VP. Come to think of it, I can't think of anyone in politics with LESS experience than Obama!

Posted by: Jacklyn in LA | Aug 24, 2008 2:07:51 PM

I'm sick of all the Republican hacks on here posing as disgruntled Hillary supporters. McCain is going down for the count and taking you Bush-lovers with him.

Posted by: Johnny Appleseed | Aug 24, 2008 2:07:54 PM

thank you lubujohn for pointing out that Obama is black...otherwise how we we have known?

Posted by: badbeta | Aug 24, 2008 2:08:20 PM

kim...

there is alot i can pick on you about from your posts, but just answer me one question.. because im so sick of the mindless talking about this... why should we punish the oil companies?

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 2:08:23 PM

carl29...good point! I just don't think you can get it through some of the heads of these people who are living in some fantasy world where they will wake up after the convention and Hillary will have been magically nominated! I was so glad when we didn't have to see her buck toothed, retarded face and her overweight butt in those stupid pantsuits anymore! You are right...her chance was 2008...she blew it & she is history. Good bye and good riddance...

Posted by: Ed | Aug 24, 2008 2:09:28 PM

McCain is the anti-Hillary. Nobody who cares at all for her agenda would ever vote for him. While Barack wasn't first choice for many of us, he's a good choice: intelligent, progressive, thoughtful, and able to compromise when necessary. Don't let the Republican media machine spread a false message that Clinton supporters would rather have him than Obama. People who believe as Hillary does know what they have to do, even with a measure of disappointment, support Obama, vote for him, and prevent any more corrupt Republican misrule.

Posted by: Trance in LA | Aug 24, 2008 2:10:35 PM

Ed, my what an enlightened individual you are...

You know, everyone promoting HRC for McCain's running mate. Did you ever stop to think that HRC would turn him down flat? She's a Democrat!!! She's not going to run with him!

That said, boy, Obama and Clinton together would have been a force to be reckoned with. I can believe he didn't choose her (too much ego, in my own opinion), but I think it was dumb.

Posted by: Beth | Aug 24, 2008 2:13:27 PM

bronte..

see, heres the bad part. and this is why obama, and snakes like him, are dangerous. because he sucked the freakshow left in with his marxist views, and now in order to actually win, he sold out and is acting like he is more owrds the center. so now , you have the mindless democrats THINKING he is just another democrat, and he could possibly win. then when he gets in, all hell can break loose with his marxist views. thats why the mindless vote is so important. thats why the media brainwashing is important. its very scary. and all the right could give us to fight this evil off was john mccain. scary.

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 2:15:31 PM

d,

No, I'm actually a 38 year old white suburban woman who is married with children. I am also a double degreed professional who understands what McCain stands for. His polcies are outrageously wrong and so are those of Bush. I don't see much daylight between the two. I can grasp the policies of Obama and I wonder why you fail to understand what he stands for. In fact, ask me a question and I'll tell you exacly what Obama stands for. And, I will do it in a civil fashion. See, I believe that if people were to understand where Obama stands on issues compared to where McCain stands there would be no doubt that Obama would better serve this nation. Certainly you disagree, but I GET IT with Obama and I'm sure many more people will as time goes on. Ok, just ask me a question...I'll give you what Obama stands for based on his policy and why I support it.

Posted by: Kim of Arizona | Aug 24, 2008 2:16:08 PM

Biden has more foreign policy experience than Hillary. In fact Hillary doesn't have any.

Posted by: oo | Aug 24, 2008 2:16:44 PM

ok kim, i have questions for you. and i will be civil as well. ill try to be as to the point as i can be. do you not believe obama is going to steal from the rich and give to the poor?

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 2:18:06 PM

out of all these post I am reading " Ed " is right on target. To Hillary followers "if you like the last eight years under Bush you should vote for McCain "

Posted by: Joe | Aug 24, 2008 2:21:08 PM

HRC Supportors, need to grow up!!
If you are mad because wasn't chosen
to bad! vote McCain or stay home!!
Obama-Biden 08 do NOT need your
angry, bitter, entitled to the throne
negative attitude. You are all a bunch
of angry & bitter people. Grow up NOW!
HRC felt ENTITLED not this time B_tch!

Posted by: Charlene | Aug 24, 2008 2:21:21 PM

Again another group of opinions from people who have no clue who is right or wrong just vote.

Posted by: Cheryl | Aug 24, 2008 2:22:18 PM

Thaks Joe....

Posted by: Ed | Aug 24, 2008 2:22:19 PM

If you are voting for McCain, fine vote for him. But if you are voting for him thinking that Hillary will be O.k in 2012, think again. Hillary's chances for the nomination in 2012 are slimmer than in 2008, why? Well, next time she won't run against a black guy. Next time she will run against a white, southern male with a lot of money from Obamanation. Who that man will be? Most probable former Gov. Mark Warner, the keynote speaker this year at the convention.

Next time Hillary won't count with the racist vote; however, Warner will count with the "any-body but Hillary vote," "Obamanation hates Hillary vote," and the conservative "masogynist" vote, sounds like a lot of votes, right?

Posted by: carl29 | Aug 24, 2008 2:22:39 PM

The beautiful thing about the USA is the freedom to vote for whomever one pleases. Nobody should lockstep to the polls. The election has been hijacked by the MSM. The main political parties have been taken over by interest groups and political operatives. Forget the party loyalty, vote your choice. Shame on those for attacking those who are not sure about Obama.

Posted by: Lisabeth | Aug 24, 2008 2:23:09 PM

Its interesting to hear Rudy Giuliani talking about Clinton; when he was up against her for a short time in New York State, running as Senator, he thought she was the worst person in the world.

Hillary needs to quiet those supporters who are raising hell, becuase she lives in a state-- where many of them will not be able to vote for her. when her terms ends . If she expects to continue in politics... she ought to think that she is not a New Yorker... and is getting support from people who she has never done anything for. Time for her supporters to cool out and stop playing into the hands of the opponent.

Rudy is trying to play Hillary for a fool, I will watch to see if he succeeds.

Posted by: Jasmine | Aug 24, 2008 2:24:36 PM

lisabeth...

you had it nailed right till the very end. obama IS PART OF THE HIJACKING. sorry. if it isnt apparent by this time, you just havent been paying attention.

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 2:25:24 PM

After reading the 'comments' here I can truly say and believe America's best days are behind us.

The mentality of these minions is so out of whack. For the life of me I can not understand why there are ANY undecided voters.

Obama lacks experience. Give me a break. I will take insight, intellect,
thoughtfulness and integrity of believes any day over experience.

We have experienced teachers and children are not reading. (sorry teachers who this does not apply too)

Drink some coffee. Think about what you are saying and offering to do. My God America why keep up with the status quo in electing Mr. Houseman.

Posted by: florenzo | Aug 24, 2008 2:26:51 PM

bronte...

wow.. lol i think she is in the process of answering my question first. i just asked he flat out if she thinks obama will steal from the rich to give to the poor. should be interesting.

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 2:26:59 PM

Tim, why do you look at things the way you do...Marxist Views? Why are you scared? Why of Obama? Wow? Look, McCain and his "clan" want to remain in control of this country regardless of the little people. They don't care about the middle class (or the poor for that matter) and now think they just need "one more turn" to change our supreme court into a right wing decision making crowd. I do see that and that would truly be scary because then there would be no BALANCE left that works for the people of America. See, I'm for balance (right and left) and Republicans are for RIGHT DOMINATION. This, I see as scary not Obama. If you really believe Obama is scary then the Republican tricks have worked on you. I'm not for that on either side. I like to make up my own mind and no AD saying something is going to sway me unless I (myself) believe it after thinking it through logically. I suggest to everyone on this post to think analytically and not emotionally. Once you do that, you'll be able to make the right choice for America.

OBAMA-BIDEN 08

Posted by: Kim of Arizona | Aug 24, 2008 2:28:32 PM

Thank you LisaBeth...that's all Im saying...Why is it that just because I am not lockstep in the name of "unity," I am all of a sudden a posing republican or some kind of scorned Hillary supporter. I am a moderate democrat. I don't fall in line with the ultra-left wing of the party. I used to think Obama was an ultra left winger...but that was in the primaries. He has changed his mind so many times since, I don't know who he really is. And, his choice of VP only confirms that his lack of experience and foreign policy deficit is exactly why I felt comfortable with Clinton.

thanks for injecting the fact that this is a country founded on free thinking and exercise of that thought with respect for differences.

Posted by: brontebroussard | Aug 24, 2008 2:28:41 PM

I am thinking that McCain and the Repuiblican party have sold America down the drain. I am thinking that we have been involved in an immoral war in Iraq for the last 5 years. A war against a country who made no move to attack us, a war that was based on a family grudge. I am thinking that the Repuiblican party is an unpatriotic Party, while promoting America, is acctualy trying to privatise our government, making multinational Corporations the true power. I am thinking that they are not patriotic enough to pay their taxes, and are willing to pass the bills down to my grandchildren. You want more?

Posted by: Thinking | Aug 24, 2008 2:29:01 PM

bronte...

heres my prediction (summed up) on her answers to yours...

1. not a chance; bad for the environment, oil companies already have the land to drill.
2. not in any way shape or form
3.within obamas first few weeks.
4.not sure on that one...
5. definately not. dosnt deserve any.
6. worst decision in modern american history.. that one i can guarantee... lol
7. now that he chose biden, its okay.

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 2:31:02 PM

You know, it is interesting that the one thing that damages Obama the most for me is the vitriolic and nasty attacks his supporters continue to level at Hillary Clinton. The problem with "Party Unity" is that Obama's SUPPORTERS truly have no interest in it. Comments like "Hillary is a loser" and "Obama doesn't need her" from Obama's virulent supporters-who clearly have no clue about qualifications and have ignored his current pattern of running away when the going gets tough (resigning from his church, reneging on public financing, changing his tune on oil drilling) are one of the largest reasons I plan to vote Green this year.

Posted by: DFP | Aug 24, 2008 2:31:42 PM

ObAMA = OsAMA = ELITIST & a terrorist = God Damn America supporter / Terrorist supporter / criminal supporter (REZKO)
Biden = BInlaDEN = EGOTIST

Vote for McCain in November

PUMA
Registered Democrat for McCain :)

Posted by: AsBee | Aug 24, 2008 2:31:44 PM

kim...

wow. okay. let me try this simple question again since you decided to completely ignore it... do you think obama believes in stealing from the rich and give to the poor?

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 2:32:46 PM

florenzo...your right. Now that I think about it...a community organizer is exactly what we need at this time of our history and economic crises. I'm a damn fool. How could I have been so ingnorant? Thank you for correcting my misguided thinking. If it weren't for you and all the other self rightous progressives...where would I be.

Posted by: brontebroussard | Aug 24, 2008 2:33:15 PM

and kim, let me point out so you dont keep attacking me for no reason... i dont want to vote for mccain either. just thought i better point that out again in case you missed the first 50 times ive said it.

Posted by: tim | Aug 24, 2008 2:34:25 PM

The way to control people is through anger. NObama knows this. He's coopted the tactics of Jeremiah Wright to, in his mind, prove he is superior. We don't buy it! All you NObama fools can buy the garbage being flung at you but well reasoned, thinking people actually want a President who can lead. THAT is the bottom line. NObama is a user and a loser.

We are intent on seeing he never gets into office! He lost his chance and the thoughtless young people will experience what happened with McGovern. It caused a rift in the party and they lost! McGovern should have stepped forward and shut down Teddy Kennedy and his brain diseased comments. The tumor explained a lot.

This Kennedy inparticular has no impact on women voters given his track record with having gotten away with murder by virtue of his name. We know the people NObama and his wretched wife hang out with and it is not to our liking.

If you had confidence in your candidate you'd never have to post a deroggatory remark against Hillary Clinton who is afterall from the same party. NObama has no authority in the party and we the constituents are going to shut him down by voting for the qualified candidate.

Posted by: UWBizKid | Aug 24, 2008 2:38:39 PM

All you bitter hung-up-on-Hillary types: Hillary is not the messiah either! Give it up and get behind your party's nominee.

Posted by: Steve T | Aug 24, 2008 2:38:53 PM

Kim,
thanks for your sincere response. I do appreciate your attempt to answer. Unfortunatly, you have to defend someone who has contridicted himself, flipflopped numerous times,for expediency. Your faith in him is admirable, but I still find courage and conviction a respectable quality in politics. If Obama was truly what he is trying to pass off he would have stood firm on his progressive stances. I am not a posing republican. I am a pragmatic Democrat who has actually worked for the DCCC. My dismay in Obama is his -yet again- spineless, political nature. He claims to be the anti-politician and yet he is really the quintessential politician. I gave up on the idealist progressive agenda because I watched the democrats lose over and over and over again...Only Bill Clinton and his moderate nature has demonstrated success in modern politics. So, not only has Obama failed my deeply lost desire to actually believe in progressive politics (because he already abandoned it after he won the primary) but he hasn't even demonstrated any respect to a President and First Lady who re-inspired America after 12 years of dread. He is young, naive, inexperienced...and doesn't know what he doesn't know...and he lacks the courage to stick with his conviction to the policies he pushed in the primany. He is simply this: a politician. He is not change.

Posted by: brontebroussard | Aug 24, 2008 2:43:43 PM

THINKING,

Well, you're not thinking very well if you belive that.

Both the Dems And the Repubs voted for the war.

BIDEN was among the GREATEST PROPONENTS OF THE WAR AND THE SURGE.

Gues your Obambi has sold his principles for, what he thinks, will help him in the polls.

Who in the world is Barack America?

Posted by: JA | Aug 24, 2008 2:45:10 PM

Steve, the NObama campaign needed long term Democrats like myself to win this election. As I kept saying in the primaries this isn't a game of marbles where the winner takes them home. NObama is not qualified for office and by running his completely negative and racist campaign he branded himself.

We aren't going to burn bra's we'll be burning NObama in the general election. He's racist, inexperienced and unqualified to lead a paper clip around a piece of paper. You're just experiencing being a sore loser before the general election.

McCain '08
Clinton '12

Posted by: UWBizKid | Aug 24, 2008 2:45:48 PM

It looks like Obama went and got himself a Bidet. LOL!!!

Posted by: JA | Aug 24, 2008 2:46:00 PM

Agree with Obama on the issues, but vote for McCain out of spite. How stupid can this electorate be??!!

Posted by: Hillary supports are very smart! | Aug 24, 2008 2:48:27 PM

Why do any of you believe that Hillary has more experience than Joe Biden? He has a fabulous resume, great accomplishments in the Senate. Hillary was a junior senator ..just one term more than Obama.What legislation did she author? Besides the very prominent speech she took on the floor of the Senate to say how the Iraq war was the right thing in 2003 (that too, I am sure she did in preparation for her run for President)what has she done as a Senator? If she was smart she would have told Bill Clinton to go for a holiday and run her campaign as a decisive candidate. Hillary has been very disappointing to me...I supported her at first. She ran a horrible campaign...ran out of funds so early in the race. Spend her large donation chest on frivalous stuff. She lost the first primary after having been the front runner by a long shot for so long. She demonstrated very little discipline...that's more like George Bush..Sqaundering the budget surplus that he inherited when he came to office. I understand that she may have been the most qualified woman. but please we need someone responsible, accountable and smart to represent us.
Also all this whinig about why Obama has`not paid off her debts...Obama cannot hand her the contributions he received for his campaign to her...that woudl be wrong. Why doesn't her 18 MM supporters each contribute a $1 and clear off 18MM of her bebt ..after all she continued in the primary because of all of you...Surely $1 per supporter is not too much to ask.
It bothers me that there is no grace or grown up behaviour from Clinton's supporters. I definitely don't think someone should be elected President if they don't have statesmanship qualities. How can you lead a great country if you can't rise above pettiness.

Posted by: Mary Joseph | Aug 24, 2008 2:49:33 PM

Sorry "UWBizKid" but "Hillary '12" will never happen. First, Hillary's chances of winning the nomination in 2012 are slimmer than 2008.

why? Well, next time she won't run against a black guy. Next time she will run against a white, southern male with a lot of money from Obamanation. Who that man will be? Most probable former Gov. Mark Warner, the keynote speaker this year at the convention.

Next time Hillary won't count with the racist vote; however, Warner will count with the white male vote, the "any-body but Hillary vote," "Obamanation hates Hillary vote," and the conservative "masogynist" vote, sounds like a lot of votes, right?

Sadly Hillary's chance was in 2008, but she blew it!!!