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The Note: Veepstakes Cloud Dulls Obama Messaging
August 20, 2008 8:31 AM
ABC News' Rick Klein reports in Wednesday's Note: Whether or not a pronoun tipped a hand . . . or Joementum is back . . . or Ralph Nader’s advice matters . . . or the schedule means anything . . . or Joe Biden is or isn’t the guy . . . the race looks markedly different than it did just a few weeks ago, even before any running mates join us for the ride.
Between the aftermath of his foreign trip and his Hawaii vacation -- and the new, crisp (if juvenile) messaging from Sen. John McCain -- Sen. Barack Obama has lost his swagger in the race.
Now it’s Obama who’s having trouble driving a sustained message -- subsumed by his own veepstakes fog, even while he continues to see himself defined by outside forces and events.
(McCain meanwhile, plays a dangerous veepstakes game: If the first rule for a running mate is to do no harm, is it possible that McCain is harming himself even without making a choice?)
As he prepares for a return to the Old State Capitol in Springfield, Ill., Saturday (when he’ll finally have company), the race is still more about Obama than it is about McCain.
Read the rest of The Note -- and get all the latest on the 2008 election, Congress, the White House and the wide world of politics every day -- from Rick Klein by bookmarking this link.
But Obama caps a summer slide with a big national poll that reminds us that this race is just about tied. (Mark this down a convention storyline -- one that raises the stakes of all of Denver’s mini-dramas.)
The Bloomberg/LA Times poll has it Obama 45, McCain 43, among registered voters. That’s a tie race, folks.
“John McCain has begun rallying dispirited Republicans behind him, while Democratic rival Barack Obama has made scant progress building new support, leaving the presidential race statistically tied,” Michael Finnegan writes in the Los Angeles Times.
Think the McCain strategy is working? “Obama's favorable rating . . . has slid from 59% to 48% since the June poll. At the same time, his negative rating has risen from 27% to 35%. The bulk of that shift stems from Republicans souring on Obama amid ferocious attacks on the Democrat by McCain and his allies.”
Among the trouble spots: “More than eight out of 10 voters say McCain's patriotism is strong, compared with just 55 percent for Obama,” Bloomberg’s Catherine Dodge and Heidi Przybyla report. “Overall, McCain has a slight edge on the question of honesty and integrity, while more than three times as many voters say Obama would change the way things are done in Washington.”
A hallmark of the Obama operation has been its self-confidence. Outside events, public polls, intra-party sniping -- all of it is essentially ignored in Chicago. That’s why the plan hasn’t changed -- but should it?
Continue reading today's Note by clicking HERE.
ABC News' Hope Ditto and Amanda Temple contributed to this report.
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Might be. To me he looks silly waiting for the opportune time to make his choice known.
While Obama might have the media's and public's attention, he doesn't seem to know what to do with it.
He successfully made this Campaign about him, what about policies?
To hell with the "Change" theme, the only change I want, or care about are policy changes. So while he is so careful about his image I am not winning.
Make the announcement and get on with hitting McCain and the Republican Party hard.
Posted by: Thinking | Aug 20, 2008 8:47:55 AM
Your news today is obsessed with this vice presidential pick. No fun to read this stuff over and over.
Posted by: rafraf | Aug 20, 2008 8:52:34 AM
Wait until Joe Biden starts working on McCain. Obama has stayed above the fray, but once Joe gets in the mud, which he is not afraid of, things are going to get very exciting!!!!!
Posted by: carl29 | Aug 20, 2008 8:56:53 AM
He's really starting to annoy his supporters at this point by dragging this thing out. It shows he really doesn't have a clue. Welcome to an Obama presidency. Long on fluff and short on results.
Posted by: Kitty | Aug 20, 2008 8:59:45 AM
pls txt the omg vp choice to my cell like you promised. text message really, and the press will not need to follow up for its readers. Guess Sen. Obama's managers did not think America would decline the chance to be on a spam list. I hope he changes his advisors.
Posted by: blockthespam | Aug 20, 2008 9:05:49 AM
The fact that he won't just come out with it makes him look indecisive.
Posted by: Angry Democrat | Aug 20, 2008 9:23:40 AM
Come on people! So you have to wait a few days? Big deal. Be grateful Obama thinks things through. There's a change we can all be grateful for.
Posted by: KRJ | Aug 20, 2008 9:35:39 AM
An oxymoron - President Obama
Posted by: Grizzly | Aug 20, 2008 9:38:18 AM
I have a question, why is it that no one is caring as much to Bush McCain VP pick as they are with OB's
Posted by: A. simmons | Aug 20, 2008 9:40:14 AM
What Message. The whole Obama campaign is all style, no substance.
Obama is Toast.
McCain'08
Posted by: tom | Aug 20, 2008 9:42:27 AM
So tired of this endless blather. How I pine for the days when news was news. Now even the so-called giants of the industry have become producers of pap and vanilla. The 24-hour news cycle has proven to be about 23 hours of nothing, intersperced with a nugget or two of news occasionally. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Posted by: Craig | Aug 20, 2008 9:55:56 AM
Obama '08. Nuff said.
Posted by: djh | Aug 20, 2008 10:00:42 AM
The idea that Obama should be praised for taking his time and thinking this over reminds me of the deer-in-the headlights Bush sitting there reading to kids for a long time when he was just told about WTC terrorism. So, Obama is like Bush in this regard. Scary.
Posted by: Kitty | Aug 20, 2008 10:01:32 AM
Forget all this VP talk. Doesn't mean much. The next BIG story will be that Obama gets no bounce out of his convention. In fact, he probably drops a couple points. The Obama faction will start muttering that the Clintons have sabotaged Obama (for sure they did), then they'll get mad. The Clinton loyalists will fire back, and like Hillary said, "this is where the fun begins". It will be a beautiful thing. A Democrat circular firing squad. And the lib-loonies of the mainstream media as usual, will blame everything on the Republicans. Too funny.
Posted by: Leon A Davis | Aug 20, 2008 10:10:08 AM
Nicholas: All those POLLS are meaningless. What we know Obama big supporters are THE YOUNG ONES. This group are using mobile phones and no one takes polls at this group!
Posted by: Peace | Aug 20, 2008 10:18:29 AM
It seems to me that the DNC must, by now, realize that they made a terrible mistake by forcing Obama down our throats. He's a loser, period. A liar, a waffler and an arrogant-on-slender-grounds talker. Maybe his hesitation about choosing a VP is more about the realization that he just might not win the nomination at the convention after all.
Posted by: A.L.L. | Aug 20, 2008 10:19:18 AM
this is getting silly and the draw out on an obvious correct choice to almost all...seems to be making this seem like it is Obama weighing what is good for him or what is good for the position.
and whether that is true or not...the impression of that is building by the day.
It looks more and more like the Paris Hilton campaign he is being accused of.
It is this impression of them using the choice for marketing more than substance...
whether that be right or wrong that is the impression that people are getting... "the roll out" beign so important...
it's like some moron bridezilla who thinks her wedding is more important than the marriage.
the longer this goes the more it looks self serving and not nationally serving.
Posted by: dl | Aug 20, 2008 10:26:11 AM
I have been watching the developing story of BO and it is as predicted, fresh from academics and a very short stent in the senate, Obama the orator shows flair and beats the drum of change, the only problem is; that is the only message. There is no substance, nothing new here that Gore, Kerry, HRC or BO has been able to bring to the table. Weak on defense, foreign policy, energy and the ability to lead.
Good to see the end game is as predicted regardless of the shills at ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN.
Posted by: GARY | Aug 20, 2008 10:28:32 AM
“Obama's favorable rating . . . has slid from 59% to 48% since the June poll. At the same time, his negative rating has risen from 27% to 35%. The bulk of that shift stems from Republicans souring on Obama amid ferocious attacks on the Democrat by McCain and his allies.”
I would assert a lot of this is from Obama himself. He switches his position from day to day and thinks his ambiguous wording will trick people into believing he never really switched.
Saturdays questions were a perfect example; Obama can't give a straight answer to save his life. I guess now we know for sure the reason for a refusal of town hall meetings since he is a disaster without a friendly environment and teleprompter.
Posted by: Cryos | Aug 20, 2008 10:29:10 AM
Hey Here's a POLL:
Is McCain just an older version of Bush? Or
Is Bush just a younger version of McCain?
Answer: Both are true
Relax. Real Americans aren't going to vote for the geezer mcBush! The rest of the Noise is from Conservatives, pretending they have brains!
Posted by: McBush | Aug 20, 2008 10:40:08 AM
You forgot to mention that the Reuters/Zogby poll out today gives McCain a 5 point lead. Please report the full story, ABC.
Posted by: Foodforthought | Aug 20, 2008 10:43:51 AM
And in addition to the 5-point National lead, McCain is also now showing a 6-point lead in Indiana, even despite all the speculation about Evan Bayh........
Looks like all of those Hillary backers who were temporarily giving lip service to supporting Obama because they thought he would pick her for VP are now flocking in droves to McCain because they've realized his VP will be a "he."
Posted by: SandyB | Aug 20, 2008 10:56:22 AM
I pray that common sense will win out in the end, and that America elects the better man. If Obama doesn't win this, we're ruined.
If we vote for McCain, we can expect the same economic policies that have brought our nation to its knees. He's a Republican, and we all know what Republicans think about the middle class and the working class.
If we vote for McCain, we can expect not only more wars, but possibly global war. He has a long-standing love of and, frankly, a bizarre fascination with war. He doesn't care about diplomacy, he has less skill at it than Bush's people, and he can't wait to parade around the global stage with his big stick. The difference between him and Roosevelt was that Roosevelt had some sense, some intelligence and some integrity. McCain just wants to be in an action movie.
If we vote for McCain, we will not stop our oil dependancy. We will continue funneling our money into the Middle East. We'll "drill here, drill now" deeper and deeper into the hole Bush dug us. Offshore drilling, no matter the immediate impact, is only a temporary fix. A temporary fix that will give McCain's big oil friends a chance to rip some more profit out of us for another 10 or so years.
If we vote for McCain, we will continue to burn away our international standing. We will continue to ruin our economy, we will continue to look like clowns. And within a year or so of a McCain presidency, Russia and China will be able to kick us around like a rag doll.
Incidentally, I think Obama looked like a President at Saddleback. McCain looked like grandpa. Endearing, but not someone you would let drive the car.
Posted by: Brendan | Aug 20, 2008 11:01:39 AM
"Cryos
please list obamas change in position
and then
list mccains change in position"
Both candidates have made several changes in positions but since Obama doesn't have the record to judge on or experience (he said himself he wouldn't run in 2008 because he wouldnt have the experience) he has made his character the centerpiece of his campaign.
Obama has made "change, unity, bipartisanship and not politics as usual" core to his campaign so when he changes positions, actions contradict his words, etc he has to be held highly accountable. This is the price he pays for running 4 years too early and not having a record to judge him on. This is why people look at his associations with scrutiny also.
Maybe liberals are naive enough this election cycle to take an inexperienced politician on their word when their actions contradict their words, but most moderate democrats, independants and a lot of republicans are not. A lot of republicans don't like neocons but a borderline marxist socialist is about the most damage thing we can do.
Posted by: Cryos | Aug 20, 2008 11:08:17 AM
The fact is John McCain is the real deal. A man who put his country first before himself. A true patriot willing to stand up against a resurgent Russia, developing China and to continue the war against Al Qaida. However noble being a community organizer in Chicago, this cannot compare to John McCain's sacrifices for his country.
Posted by: Jinx | Aug 20, 2008 11:23:20 AM
Disturbing news about the University of Illinois blocking a request to examine documents in their Richard J. Daley library.
The documents supposedly contained records of the relationship between Obama and Bill Ayers.
The request from Stanley Kurtz, contributing editor of the National Review magazine was approved by the reference librarian, but later denied by the head of the Special Collections Dept.
This report and also an article about "Barack Obama's Lost Years" can be found on www.nationalreview.com
Posted by: Donoke9-10 | Aug 20, 2008 11:23:54 AM
What BS logic - everyone is talking about Obama's VP, so that "clouds" his message :)
You're stretching. Keep your dumb Republican thoughts to yourself!
Posted by: Neil B | Aug 20, 2008 11:29:15 AM
It's polls, focus groups and marketers that are determining what comes out of Obama's mouth. That's the reason for all the flip flops on Wright, Iraq, off-shore drilling, Russia/Georgia etc. etc. .......
Essentially McCain is right when he says Obama chooses custom made policies for different segments of the electorate to get in power. Obama’s initial thrust came from the "grassroots" far far left Cindy Sheehans who were rabidly anti-Bush & anti-war (any war). It was a very appealing message for "cool" anti-authoritarian college students looking to recreate their own "60s". That message plus his celebrity appeal bowled over left leaning Hollywood, the entire entertainment industry and many in the mainstream media and of course Oprah, who catapulted Obama to Rock Start Status. Of course, he changed his anti-war position and became pro-war in Afghanistan to show his commander-in-chiefness for the Jane & Joe America sitting in his focus groups.
More and more American's are not buying Obama’s disingenuous positions of the day. Life is way too dangerous in the 21st century. Our country is in the middle of 3 wars (Iraq-Afghanistan-terror) Iran is going nuclear and Europe is under the ballistic missiles of Putin’s neo-Soviets. Such a situation cannot be trusted to any junior- 1st term senator let alone a standard operating politician who got his experience being a "community organizer" and cog in the Chicago Political Machine.
Posted by: Dr. Dave | Aug 20, 2008 11:29:58 AM
McCain needs to get much more aggressive in his campaign and define Obama as the racist bigot that he actually is. More photos of a grinning Obama and Reverend Rightous Wright, his twenty-year mentor. McCain should run an ad featuring Obama's ultra-liberal and very short voting record in Congress. Question why Obama doesn't care for American flag pins. Why is Michelle so down on our country?
Obama needs to be seen as he is, not as our "old liberal media" want you to believe.
Posted by: Larry Clifton | Aug 20, 2008 11:33:38 AM
You must vote for Obama. He's more than an empty suit. McBush is a empty, angry, senile and hot head. We csn do better with Obama. Wake up. McBush, more wars, and then more wars.
Posted by: Honay Rogers | Aug 20, 2008 11:34:22 AM
The libs are getting very nervous.
Posted by: KansasGirl | Aug 20, 2008 11:34:39 AM
This guy is pitiful! I am sick of hearing his babblings! He hasn't a clue, he lets it leak on who he "might" choose for a vp to see what the voters think...if this character can't even pick a vp without a poll....how in @#$& is he going to run the office of President? He is a has been imho!
Posted by: Dave | Aug 20, 2008 11:36:49 AM
This guy is pitiful! I am sick of hearing his babblings! He hasn't a clue, he lets it leak on who he "might" choose for a vp to see what the voters think...if this character can't even pick a vp without a poll....how in @#$& is he going to run the office of President? He is a has been imho!
Posted by: Dave | Aug 20, 2008 11:38:47 AM
Ok idiots of the world...listen up! If you want higher taxes, vote for obama. If you want inexperience, vote for obama. If you want someone that can't thoroughly explain anything without sidetracking you, vote obama. If you want someone that has no military experience, vote obama. If you want to lose your right to have a gun at home for defense, vote obama.
DO I HAVE THIS STRAIGHT?
HIS FATHER WAS A BLACK AFRICAN MUSLIM FROM KENYA, WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS AFRICAN FAMILY.
HIS MOTHER WAS A WHITE AMERICAN ATHEIST FROM KANSAS . WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF HIS AMERICAN FAMILY?
HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER WHEN HE WAS ONLY TWO YEARS OLD AND WENT BACK TO AFRICA BY WAY OF HARVARD UNIVERSITY. HOW?? WAS HIS FATHER WEALTHY?
HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN INDONESIAN MUSLIM AND THEN MOVED TO JAKARTA WHERE HE WAS ENROLLED IN A MUSLIM SCHOOL .
WHEN HE REACHED HIGH SCHOOL AGE, HIS MOTHER SENT HIM TO HAWAII TO BE WITH HIS WHITE GRANDPARENTS AND HE WAS PUT INTO AN EXPENSIVE PRIVATE SCHOOL. HE LATER WENT TO HARVARD UNIVERSITY. HOW?? WERE HIS GRANDPARENTS RICH?
HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION HOUSE OBTAINED THROUGH A DEAL WITH A WEALTHY FUNDRAISER? HOW?
HE 'WORKED' AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO . HE HAS NEVER HELD A PRODUCTIVE JOB OR RECEIVED A PAY CHECK THAT WAS NOT GOVERNMENT-FUNDED AND/OR TAYPAYER SUPPORTED.
THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POSITION, NOR IS IT SUBJECT TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SET ASIDES; ON-THE-JOB TRAINING WON'T CUT IT.
HE ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL WHERE HE HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE.
HE IS PROUD OF HIS 'AFRICAN HERITAGE' (A FATHER WHO GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND DESERTED HER).
WHERE IS THE PRIDE IN HIS 'WHITE HERITAGE?' (A MOTHER WHO FLAUNTED CONVENTION AND DID NOT BELIEVE IN GOD).
SOME MIGHT THINK THERE WAS NOT MUCH TO BE PROUD OF EITHER WAY.
HE BELONGS, AND HAS BELONGED FOR OVER 20 YEARS, TO AN 'AFRO-CENTRIC' CHURCH IN CHICAGO THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS, AND BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLD'S PERCEIVED FAULTS (INCLUDING CREATING THE AIDS VIRUS IN ORDER TO INFLICT IT ON AFRICANS).
HE REPEATEDLY WHITEWASHES THE PASTOR, HIS CHURCH AND THE MEMBERS WHO CHEERED AFTER HEARING VITRIOLIC TIRADES AGAINST AMERICA .
HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR BUT HE WANTS US TO BELIEVE HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN ?
YEAH, RIGHT!!
DURING HIS VERY BRIEF TIME IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE, HE HAS MANAGED TO AMASS THE NUMBER ONE ULTRA LIBERAL VOTING RECORD OUT OF THE ONE HUNDRED MEMBERS.
HE HAS VOTED CONSISTENTLY FOR BIGGER GOVERNMENT AND HIGHER TAXES. HE HAS VOTED FOR BIG ENTITLEMENTS AND LEGISLATION THAT WOULD SEVERELY CURTAIL AMERICA 'S ABILITY TO FIGHT TERRORISM AND TO PROTECT OUR BORDERS AND OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS AROUND THE WORLD.
BUT, HE IS A GOOD ORATOR. ISN'T THAT A COMFORT?
YEAH, I THINK I SEE HOW WELL HE COULD UNITE THE COUNTRY.
I THINK THE TRUTH IS THAT HE HOPES NO ONE WILL PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER.
'LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LET ME INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR NEW CHIEF PILOT. HE HAS NEVER FLOWN AN AIRPLANE, IN FACT HE HAS NEVER EVEN SAT IN THE COCKPIT, BUT HE SAYS HE HAS RIDDEN ON PLANES BEFORE. WE ARE SURE HE WILL GUIDE US SAFELY THROUGH THE STORMS WE MAY ENCOUNTER ON THIS FLIGHT.'
PEOPLE WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD THE STORY ABOUT THE WOLF HIDING IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING SO HE CAN DESTROY THEM FROM WITH-IN? THE HAND WRITING IS ON THE WALL, DO YOU NOT HAVE EYES TO SEE IT??
THINK LONG AND HARD BEFORE YOU VOTE FOR THIS GUY! CONSIDER YOUR KIDS & GRANDKIDS!
THEIR FUTURE IS IN OUR/YOUR VOTING HANDS
Posted by: Rick | Aug 20, 2008 11:44:38 AM
These polls are incredible. This country is waking up. Today's my birthday and this news makes me very happy.
The argument about McCain being another Bush isn't working. If it was, Obama's numbers would be MUCH higher regardless of what people thought of him. So let's stop with this "Another 4 years of Bush" argument because it's clearly not working.
Can't wait to see Kerry, Gore and Carter at the DNC Convention, aka the "Losers" Convention. What a joke!
And I'm a Democrat. NoBama, not now not ever.
Posted by: Brooke | Aug 20, 2008 11:47:12 AM
If any of you think a politician is anything more than a whore for the rich and corporate America you are all more intellectually challenged than the shrub occupying the white house
Posted by: sam hain | Aug 20, 2008 11:49:16 AM
If any of you think a politician is anything more than a whore for the rich and corporate America you are all more intellectually challenged than the shrub occupying the white house
Posted by: sam hain | Aug 20, 2008 11:51:37 AM
Right on Brendan.....the rest of the world will be laughing......id be leaving...can you imagine so many Americans being so ignorant......the joke is on US.
Posted by: anton | Aug 20, 2008 11:52:27 AM
Why do people believe in these day to day polls. They aren't even accurate. More and more people use their cell phones and don't have land lines. And these people aren't being polled.
Posted by: annie | Aug 20, 2008 11:52:42 AM
This question is for McCain supporters. As globalization is sure to continue, do you honestly believe McCain is the best choice for the future of the U.S. and it's role in globalization? If so, how much support does McCain have outside of the U.S.?
I have been a McCain supporter for years but now have second thoughts on which candidate would best change the world's perspective of the U.S., which has been in the toilet for some time now. And after recently traveling overseas to several countries, I could not find a single person who thought McCain would be the better choice.
Please only reply if you've taken the time to consider both candidates.
Posted by: Joel | Aug 20, 2008 11:57:51 AM
Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics enlightening and amazing.
www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html
Taxes under Clinton 1999
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Taxes under Bush 2008
Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250
It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever. If Obama is elected, he says he will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can't wait for it to happen. This is like the movie The Sting with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even know what happened.
In just one year. Remember the election in 2006?
Thought you might like to read the following:
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.
Quote of the Day........'My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it.' -- Barack Obama
Posted by: Rick | Aug 20, 2008 11:59:25 AM
Obama makes bold statements like "I will win" ... but, Obama doesn't deserve to win. After all, what has he done? What qualifies him to run this country ... working as a community organizer, followed by being a junior senator who spent his 16 months running for President. But, the point that's bigger than the fact that Obama doesn't deserve to win, is the fact that the American people deserve much more than an empty suit like Obama. The American people deserve an experienced qualified leader, who truly loves this country ... a leader who can competently guide us through all the challenges that are currently facing this country ... and, that leader is Senator John McCain.
Posted by: HOWARD | Aug 20, 2008 12:16:04 PM
DR.DAVE PLEASE ATTEND TO YOUR SICK!.
DAVE KEEP QUIET PLEASE. YOU ARE TO YOUNG TO MAKE WORD WITH @#$&.
Posted by: DRUID | Aug 20, 2008 12:17:11 PM
Kitty: Just because he takes his time doesn't mean he has a deer in headlights appraoch. That means he's not making a knee-jerk reaction on every issue. An example of a knee-jerk reaction was starting a war in Iraq with crappy/false data and without a good game plan. Had we done that troop surge thing from the get-go, Iraq would be more independent now and we could put more troops in the area that started this whole war on terror: Afghanistan. Did Bush and McCain forget about that area? Last I checked Obama didn't, he wants out of Iraq faster so we can put the emphasis on Afghanistan.
I'm not set on an obama vote, but right now I'm pretty set on a no McCain vote. Either Obama or Green party for me
Posted by: John | Aug 20, 2008 12:21:23 PM
This country is in trouble and if more time had been considered before taking on a treasure hunt for "weapons of mass destruction" (there were none)alone without world partners, we as a nation may have been in a much better position!!!
Posted by: GSM | Aug 20, 2008 12:28:04 PM
Sam Nunn is not only a foreign affairs expert, he is THE expert when it comes to Russia and Russian policy. At this point in time, there is no better choice to complement Obama and counter McCain than Sam Nunn.
And Nunn was against BOTH wars in Iraq, to boot.
Sam Nunn would give Obama the confidence of swing voters - and the election.
Posted by: Dave | Aug 20, 2008 12:33:30 PM
carl29:
As Sinatra would say:
And Now the End is Near!
The latest Zogby-Reuters poll has
McCain up by 5 points! Bye Bye!
In spite of the MSM coverup the
American People are finding out that
Obama offers empty slogans like
"change" and no viable solutions to
our problems!
Obama's people can spin this any way they want to but this is devastating
to his campaign(right before the convention)!
Posted by: reaganfan | Aug 20, 2008 12:47:55 PM
@ Rick.
Personally, I would far rather spend a few extra thousand in taxes than continue to see the national debt sky rocket. I see it as investing in my country.
Are you suggesting the Democrats are responsible for what is close to a 600 billion dollar war? And are you not willing to consider the economical effects of this war? Anytime Iran sneezes, gas prices jump.
Todays mortgage crisis could not exist had it not been for the passing of the Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act of 1980 (DIDMCA) and the Alternative Mortgage Transactions Parity Act of 1982 (AMTPA). Who controlled the Senate during these years? The Republicans.
America voted for change in 2006 but those elected to make change haven't had enough time to cleanup the mess, but they've started. The Mortgage Reform and Anti-Predatory Lending Act of 2007 passed the house. How did Republicans vote on this bill? 64 Ayes, 127 Nays vs. 227 Ayes and 0 Nays for Democrats. Why wouldn't Republicans want to fix an obvious broken system?
Approval ratings for the Iraqi war hit a new low in 2006, 35%. Bushes approval rating was at 42%. 54% of Americans viewed Bush as dishonest and 57% said they disagreed with his policies. (Source: CNN)
What happens when Americans loose faith in their government? We better pray foreign investors do not loose faith. Can you imagine what would happen to the value of the U.S. dollar if China called in it's $253 billion note? Or Japan's $673 billion note? A global economic crisis.
Posted by: Joel | Aug 20, 2008 1:19:18 PM
BOTH CANDIDATES, AS WELL AS CONGRESS, MIGHT DO WELL TO LISTEN TO ANDREW BACEVICH… NOT JUST HEAR HIM
Only rarely does someone surface with qualifications as well as insights and a delivery that stimulate thinking. Even more rarely does an individual stimulate the very personal mental articulation of self observation.
http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/08/andrew-bacevich-rare-sobering-voice.html
Bacevich deserves as broad an audience as can be exposed to his thoughtful analysis.
Posted by: PacificGatePost | Aug 20, 2008 3:30:31 PM
Reminds me of the Far Side cartoon where the giant cockroach lying in an alley is talking to a bum saying: "I had it all: great job, great car, money, success, beautiful wife. Then one day someone shouted, 'Hey! He's just a big cockroach!'".
NObama '08
Posted by: Bob M. | Aug 20, 2008 4:19:54 PM
I have a question, why is it that no one is caring as much to Bush McCain VP pick as they are with OB's
Posted by: A. simmons | Aug 20, 2008 9:40:14 AM
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McCain said yesterday that his VP pick would be announced August 29. Obama's pick is set to be announced as early as today (or end of week at the latest).
It's simply due to the order in which the announcements will be made.
And FWIW, I have read several articles discussing McCain's VP pick. Spend a few minutes looking for them yourself instead of expecting the media to spoon feed it to you.
Posted by: None of the Above 08 | Aug 20, 2008 4:47:20 PM
I pray that common sense will win out in the end, and that America elects the better man. If Obama doesn't win this, we're ruined.
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If Obama does lose, you can just blame Hillary. It'll be all her fault anyway.
Posted by: None of the Above 08 | Aug 20, 2008 4:51:10 PM
Joel,
Other than American ex-pats who cares what those outside of this country think about who should be President.
Last time I checked we were voting for US President not world President.
Why do you put so much stock in what other people think? Can't you make up your own mind? Weak. Totally weak.
But you're right globalization will continue, as it always has. It's sort of like the "economy": It's bigger than any government or nation. We can turn our backs on it and as a nation crawl under the proverbial rock in fear or we can stop acting as if it's something evil (it isn't).
McCain seems to get that. And Obama at least to some extent.
Posted by: Not a sheep | Aug 20, 2008 4:58:30 PM
Obama looks worse as this horribly long election cycle drudges on...why in the world the DNC didn't see him as a weak candidate is beyond belief!
His performance at Saddleback was terrible. I didn't expect much from McCain and was shocked that he commanded the interview far better than Obama did. What in the world?? Obama didn't seem to know how to answer the questions and went on and on...it looked like he was trying to beat in time so he wouldn't have another question to answer. Why can't the superdelegates vote for Hillary? Why are we stuck with Obama?
Posted by: Mack | Aug 20, 2008 10:32:35 PM
Obama has blown it. He has overplayed his hand again. He looks like he can't make up his mind, not that he is trying to build suspense. Democrats want to know who the VP is and get him/her to work on McCain. McCain is beating Obama at the game, and I NEVER thought I would see that. McCain just might pull this off, and who in the world would ever have thought that????? I am beginning to believe that maybe, just maybe all those Hillary supporters were right: Obama can't win.
Posted by: Joe | Aug 20, 2008 10:37:06 PM
Not a sheep,
I've been 99% sure who I was voting for long before Hillary had to bow out and long before I traveled. Getting input from people who are not restricted to CNN and Fox is quite enlightening.
You're absolutely correct. We are voting for the U.S. President who will be running the most powerful country, at least for a little while, in the world, which holds a responsibility beyond what most, if not all, of us can fathom.
You may not be concerned how the rest of the world views the U.S., how it effects our economy as well as the global economy, where our troops are deployed, and how many of them we sacrifice because the rest of the world is fed up with old U.S. foreign policies and tactics, but I damn well am concerned. The attitude of "America first, screw everyone else" is why a large portion of the world is now unsympathetic to the U.S.
Get out and explore the world. America is a wonderful place, but our arrogance may well be our downfall.
Posted by: Joel | Aug 21, 2008 12:35:48 AM
ANSWER...no the media is blcoking Obama message from coming for to the voters and trying determine the election. You only report negative things about him, you say we know McCain I don't. What was the Keating Five, didn't the committee reach the conclusion that McCain only used bad judgement. Didn't the Clintons have something to do with that and even Bush, was it about Savings and Loans, and buying Senators, which cost the taxpayers billions.
Sounds like what happen now, report that, or why not tell us about that scander the Ny times reported on about McCain and the lady lobbist, oh he said it was not truth, and she said it was not true, didn't Edwards feed you guys that lie also.
Oh is this going to be like the Iraq war, all of Bush talking head came before the media with same talking points and the media back them up, after all the media could not find the truth on the internet,they would have to get off their ass and search for the truth. or they cover for them.
Talk about China, and Cuba controling the news, aleast their people know they are being controled
Posted by: dfortruth | Aug 21, 2008 12:37:04 PM
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