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The Note: Veepstakes Cloud Dulls Obama Messaging

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August 20, 2008 8:31 AM

ABC News' Rick Klein reports in Wednesday's Note: Whether or not a pronoun tipped a hand . . . or Joementum is back . . . or Ralph Nader’s advice matters . . . or the schedule means anything . . . or Joe Biden is or isn’t the guy . . . the race looks markedly different than it did just a few weeks ago, even before any running mates join us for the ride.

Between the aftermath of his foreign trip and his Hawaii vacation -- and the new, crisp (if juvenile) messaging from Sen. John McCain -- Sen. Barack Obama has lost his swagger in the race.

Now it’s Obama who’s having trouble driving a sustained message -- subsumed by his own veepstakes fog, even while he continues to see himself defined by outside forces and events.

(McCain meanwhile, plays a dangerous veepstakes game: If the first rule for a running mate is to do no harm, is it possible that McCain is harming himself even without making a choice?)

As he prepares for a return to the Old State Capitol in Springfield, Ill., Saturday (when he’ll finally have company), the race is still more about Obama than it is about McCain.

Read the rest of The Note -- and get all the latest on the 2008 election, Congress, the White House and the wide world of politics every day -- from Rick Klein by bookmarking this link.

But Obama caps a summer slide with a big national poll that reminds us that this race is just about tied. (Mark this down a convention storyline -- one that raises the stakes of all of Denver’s mini-dramas.)

The Bloomberg/LA Times poll has it Obama 45, McCain 43, among registered voters. That’s a tie race, folks.

“John McCain has begun rallying dispirited Republicans behind him, while Democratic rival Barack Obama has made scant progress building new support, leaving the presidential race statistically tied,” Michael Finnegan writes in the Los Angeles Times.

Think the McCain strategy is working? “Obama's favorable rating . . . has slid from 59% to 48% since the June poll. At the same time, his negative rating has risen from 27% to 35%. The bulk of that shift stems from Republicans souring on Obama amid ferocious attacks on the Democrat by McCain and his allies.”

Among the trouble spots: “More than eight out of 10 voters say McCain's patriotism is strong, compared with just 55 percent for Obama,” Bloomberg’s Catherine Dodge and Heidi Przybyla report. “Overall, McCain has a slight edge on the question of honesty and integrity, while more than three times as many voters say Obama would change the way things are done in Washington.”

A hallmark of the Obama operation has been its self-confidence. Outside events, public polls, intra-party sniping -- all of it is essentially ignored in Chicago. That’s why the plan hasn’t changed -- but should it?

Continue reading today's Note by clicking HERE.

ABC News' Hope Ditto and Amanda Temple contributed to this report.

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You forgot to mention that the Reuters/Zogby poll out today gives McCain a 5 point lead. Please report the full story, ABC.

Posted by: Foodforthought | Aug 20, 2008 10:43:51 AM

And in addition to the 5-point National lead, McCain is also now showing a 6-point lead in Indiana, even despite all the speculation about Evan Bayh........

Looks like all of those Hillary backers who were temporarily giving lip service to supporting Obama because they thought he would pick her for VP are now flocking in droves to McCain because they've realized his VP will be a "he."

Posted by: SandyB | Aug 20, 2008 10:56:22 AM

I pray that common sense will win out in the end, and that America elects the better man. If Obama doesn't win this, we're ruined.

If we vote for McCain, we can expect the same economic policies that have brought our nation to its knees. He's a Republican, and we all know what Republicans think about the middle class and the working class.

If we vote for McCain, we can expect not only more wars, but possibly global war. He has a long-standing love of and, frankly, a bizarre fascination with war. He doesn't care about diplomacy, he has less skill at it than Bush's people, and he can't wait to parade around the global stage with his big stick. The difference between him and Roosevelt was that Roosevelt had some sense, some intelligence and some integrity. McCain just wants to be in an action movie.

If we vote for McCain, we will not stop our oil dependancy. We will continue funneling our money into the Middle East. We'll "drill here, drill now" deeper and deeper into the hole Bush dug us. Offshore drilling, no matter the immediate impact, is only a temporary fix. A temporary fix that will give McCain's big oil friends a chance to rip some more profit out of us for another 10 or so years.

If we vote for McCain, we will continue to burn away our international standing. We will continue to ruin our economy, we will continue to look like clowns. And within a year or so of a McCain presidency, Russia and China will be able to kick us around like a rag doll.

Incidentally, I think Obama looked like a President at Saddleback. McCain looked like grandpa. Endearing, but not someone you would let drive the car.

Posted by: Brendan | Aug 20, 2008 11:01:39 AM

"Cryos

please list obamas change in position

and then

list mccains change in position"

Both candidates have made several changes in positions but since Obama doesn't have the record to judge on or experience (he said himself he wouldn't run in 2008 because he wouldnt have the experience) he has made his character the centerpiece of his campaign.

Obama has made "change, unity, bipartisanship and not politics as usual" core to his campaign so when he changes positions, actions contradict his words, etc he has to be held highly accountable. This is the price he pays for running 4 years too early and not having a record to judge him on. This is why people look at his associations with scrutiny also.

Maybe liberals are naive enough this election cycle to take an inexperienced politician on their word when their actions contradict their words, but most moderate democrats, independants and a lot of republicans are not. A lot of republicans don't like neocons but a borderline marxist socialist is about the most damage thing we can do.

Posted by: Cryos | Aug 20, 2008 11:08:17 AM

The fact is John McCain is the real deal. A man who put his country first before himself. A true patriot willing to stand up against a resurgent Russia, developing China and to continue the war against Al Qaida. However noble being a community organizer in Chicago, this cannot compare to John McCain's sacrifices for his country.

Posted by: Jinx | Aug 20, 2008 11:23:20 AM

Disturbing news about the University of Illinois blocking a request to examine documents in their Richard J. Daley library.
The documents supposedly contained records of the relationship between Obama and Bill Ayers.
The request from Stanley Kurtz, contributing editor of the National Review magazine was approved by the reference librarian, but later denied by the head of the Special Collections Dept.
This report and also an article about "Barack Obama's Lost Years" can be found on www.nationalreview.com

Posted by: Donoke9-10 | Aug 20, 2008 11:23:54 AM

What BS logic - everyone is talking about Obama's VP, so that "clouds" his message :)

You're stretching. Keep your dumb Republican thoughts to yourself!

Posted by: Neil B | Aug 20, 2008 11:29:15 AM

It's polls, focus groups and marketers that are determining what comes out of Obama's mouth. That's the reason for all the flip flops on Wright, Iraq, off-shore drilling, Russia/Georgia etc. etc. .......

Essentially McCain is right when he says Obama chooses custom made policies for different segments of the electorate to get in power. Obama’s initial thrust came from the "grassroots" far far left Cindy Sheehans who were rabidly anti-Bush & anti-war (any war). It was a very appealing message for "cool" anti-authoritarian college students looking to recreate their own "60s". That message plus his celebrity appeal bowled over left leaning Hollywood, the entire entertainment industry and many in the mainstream media and of course Oprah, who catapulted Obama to Rock Start Status. Of course, he changed his anti-war position and became pro-war in Afghanistan to show his commander-in-chiefness for the Jane & Joe America sitting in his focus groups.

More and more American's are not buying Obama’s disingenuous positions of the day. Life is way too dangerous in the 21st century. Our country is in the middle of 3 wars (Iraq-Afghanistan-terror) Iran is going nuclear and Europe is under the ballistic missiles of Putin’s neo-Soviets. Such a situation cannot be trusted to any junior- 1st term senator let alone a standard operating politician who got his experience being a "community organizer" and cog in the Chicago Political Machine.

Posted by: Dr. Dave | Aug 20, 2008 11:29:58 AM

McCain needs to get much more aggressive in his campaign and define Obama as the racist bigot that he actually is. More photos of a grinning Obama and Reverend Rightous Wright, his twenty-year mentor. McCain should run an ad featuring Obama's ultra-liberal and very short voting record in Congress. Question why Obama doesn't care for American flag pins. Why is Michelle so down on our country?
Obama needs to be seen as he is, not as our "old liberal media" want you to believe.

Posted by: Larry Clifton | Aug 20, 2008 11:33:38 AM

You must vote for Obama. He's more than an empty suit. McBush is a empty, angry, senile and hot head. We csn do better with Obama. Wake up. McBush, more wars, and then more wars.

Posted by: Honay Rogers | Aug 20, 2008 11:34:22 AM

The libs are getting very nervous.

Posted by: KansasGirl | Aug 20, 2008 11:34:39 AM

This guy is pitiful! I am sick of hearing his babblings! He hasn't a clue, he lets it leak on who he "might" choose for a vp to see what the voters think...if this character can't even pick a vp without a poll....how in @#$& is he going to run the office of President? He is a has been imho!

Posted by: Dave | Aug 20, 2008 11:36:49 AM

This guy is pitiful! I am sick of hearing his babblings! He hasn't a clue, he lets it leak on who he "might" choose for a vp to see what the voters think...if this character can't even pick a vp without a poll....how in @#$& is he going to run the office of President? He is a has been imho!

Posted by: Dave | Aug 20, 2008 11:38:47 AM

Ok idiots of the world...listen up! If you want higher taxes, vote for obama. If you want inexperience, vote for obama. If you want someone that can't thoroughly explain anything without sidetracking you, vote obama. If you want someone that has no military experience, vote obama. If you want to lose your right to have a gun at home for defense, vote obama.

DO I HAVE THIS STRAIGHT?

HIS FATHER WAS A BLACK AFRICAN MUSLIM FROM KENYA, WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS AFRICAN FAMILY.

HIS MOTHER WAS A WHITE AMERICAN ATHEIST FROM KANSAS . WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF HIS AMERICAN FAMILY?

HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER WHEN HE WAS ONLY TWO YEARS OLD AND WENT BACK TO AFRICA BY WAY OF HARVARD UNIVERSITY. HOW?? WAS HIS FATHER WEALTHY?

HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN INDONESIAN MUSLIM AND THEN MOVED TO JAKARTA WHERE HE WAS ENROLLED IN A MUSLIM SCHOOL .

WHEN HE REACHED HIGH SCHOOL AGE, HIS MOTHER SENT HIM TO HAWAII TO BE WITH HIS WHITE GRANDPARENTS AND HE WAS PUT INTO AN EXPENSIVE PRIVATE SCHOOL. HE LATER WENT TO HARVARD UNIVERSITY. HOW?? WERE HIS GRANDPARENTS RICH?

HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION HOUSE OBTAINED THROUGH A DEAL WITH A WEALTHY FUNDRAISER? HOW?

HE 'WORKED' AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO . HE HAS NEVER HELD A PRODUCTIVE JOB OR RECEIVED A PAY CHECK THAT WAS NOT GOVERNMENT-FUNDED AND/OR TAYPAYER SUPPORTED.

THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POSITION, NOR IS IT SUBJECT TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SET ASIDES; ON-THE-JOB TRAINING WON'T CUT IT.

HE ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL WHERE HE HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE.

HE IS PROUD OF HIS 'AFRICAN HERITAGE' (A FATHER WHO GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND DESERTED HER).

WHERE IS THE PRIDE IN HIS 'WHITE HERITAGE?' (A MOTHER WHO FLAUNTED CONVENTION AND DID NOT BELIEVE IN GOD).

SOME MIGHT THINK THERE WAS NOT MUCH TO BE PROUD OF EITHER WAY.

HE BELONGS, AND HAS BELONGED FOR OVER 20 YEARS, TO AN 'AFRO-CENTRIC' CHURCH IN CHICAGO THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS, AND BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLD'S PERCEIVED FAULTS (INCLUDING CREATING THE AIDS VIRUS IN ORDER TO INFLICT IT ON AFRICANS).

HE REPEATEDLY WHITEWASHES THE PASTOR, HIS CHURCH AND THE MEMBERS WHO CHEERED AFTER HEARING VITRIOLIC TIRADES AGAINST AMERICA .

HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR BUT HE WANTS US TO BELIEVE HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN ?

YEAH, RIGHT!!

DURING HIS VERY BRIEF TIME IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE, HE HAS MANAGED TO AMASS THE NUMBER ONE ULTRA LIBERAL VOTING RECORD OUT OF THE ONE HUNDRED MEMBERS.

HE HAS VOTED CONSISTENTLY FOR BIGGER GOVERNMENT AND HIGHER TAXES. HE HAS VOTED FOR BIG ENTITLEMENTS AND LEGISLATION THAT WOULD SEVERELY CURTAIL AMERICA 'S ABILITY TO FIGHT TERRORISM AND TO PROTECT OUR BORDERS AND OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS AROUND THE WORLD.

BUT, HE IS A GOOD ORATOR. ISN'T THAT A COMFORT?

YEAH, I THINK I SEE HOW WELL HE COULD UNITE THE COUNTRY.

I THINK THE TRUTH IS THAT HE HOPES NO ONE WILL PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER.

'LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LET ME INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR NEW CHIEF PILOT. HE HAS NEVER FLOWN AN AIRPLANE, IN FACT HE HAS NEVER EVEN SAT IN THE COCKPIT, BUT HE SAYS HE HAS RIDDEN ON PLANES BEFORE. WE ARE SURE HE WILL GUIDE US SAFELY THROUGH THE STORMS WE MAY ENCOUNTER ON THIS FLIGHT.'

PEOPLE WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD THE STORY ABOUT THE WOLF HIDING IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING SO HE CAN DESTROY THEM FROM WITH-IN? THE HAND WRITING IS ON THE WALL, DO YOU NOT HAVE EYES TO SEE IT??

THINK LONG AND HARD BEFORE YOU VOTE FOR THIS GUY! CONSIDER YOUR KIDS & GRANDKIDS!

THEIR FUTURE IS IN OUR/YOUR VOTING HANDS

Posted by: Rick | Aug 20, 2008 11:44:38 AM

These polls are incredible. This country is waking up. Today's my birthday and this news makes me very happy.

The argument about McCain being another Bush isn't working. If it was, Obama's numbers would be MUCH higher regardless of what people thought of him. So let's stop with this "Another 4 years of Bush" argument because it's clearly not working.

Can't wait to see Kerry, Gore and Carter at the DNC Convention, aka the "Losers" Convention. What a joke!

And I'm a Democrat. NoBama, not now not ever.

Posted by: Brooke | Aug 20, 2008 11:47:12 AM

If any of you think a politician is anything more than a whore for the rich and corporate America you are all more intellectually challenged than the shrub occupying the white house

Posted by: sam hain | Aug 20, 2008 11:49:16 AM

If any of you think a politician is anything more than a whore for the rich and corporate America you are all more intellectually challenged than the shrub occupying the white house

Posted by: sam hain | Aug 20, 2008 11:51:37 AM

Right on Brendan.....the rest of the world will be laughing......id be leaving...can you imagine so many Americans being so ignorant......the joke is on US.

Posted by: anton | Aug 20, 2008 11:52:27 AM

Why do people believe in these day to day polls. They aren't even accurate. More and more people use their cell phones and don't have land lines. And these people aren't being polled.

Posted by: annie | Aug 20, 2008 11:52:42 AM

This question is for McCain supporters. As globalization is sure to continue, do you honestly believe McCain is the best choice for the future of the U.S. and it's role in globalization? If so, how much support does McCain have outside of the U.S.?

I have been a McCain supporter for years but now have second thoughts on which candidate would best change the world's perspective of the U.S., which has been in the toilet for some time now. And after recently traveling overseas to several countries, I could not find a single person who thought McCain would be the better choice.

Please only reply if you've taken the time to consider both candidates.

Posted by: Joel | Aug 20, 2008 11:57:51 AM

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