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Biden Goes Back To School
September 06, 2008 3:30 PM
ABC News' Matthew Jaffe reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., went back to school Saturday, surprising his students at Widener University School of Law in Wilmington by returning to teach his weekend class there.
Since 1991, Biden has taught "Selected Topics in Constitutional Law", a two-hour class held Saturdays at 9:00 am, but for obvious reasons the Democratic vice-presidential candidate hasn't been around the last few weeks.
Biden's co-professor Bob Hayman, who has helped teach the class since 2003, and their students were surprised to see Biden make an unexpected, but welcome, return from the campaign trail.
"Today we had a regular class," Hayman said, laughing. "We almost talked about the campaign not at all. We talked about separation of powers, we talked about the framers' vision of the Constitution. I think maybe today was a refuge from the campaign for him to some extent, a time for him to be a teacher again."
"Even though he couldn't be there in the same capacity as he was before he became the nominee, we were all thrilled to see that he came this morning," said Christell Hershey, a student who works at a financial firm during the day and takes law classes on the side.
"It was just nice," she said. "We had coffee and doughnuts and we had a nice relaxed Saturday morning class and it was just really fun."
"It was a pretty neat experience," echoed fellow student Joseph Pultrone. "It's not that often that you have, you know, a candidate for vice president talking to you within ten feet from your face. It was pretty cool."
"He definitely had our attention," added Pultrone.
The seminar, with a limit of 18 students, is "not the easiest one to get into," according to Widener Law School public relations director Dan Hanson. With the senator's busy schedule, the class hasn't always been the easiest for Biden to get into, either - in the past, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee has taken the red-eye flight from Afghanistan to get back in time for it.
Biden, whose wife Jill is an English professor at nearby Delaware Technical & Community College, is "a really good teacher", according to Hayman, who noted that the senator is "obviously a very gifted speaker", but also a good listener.
"He's real good at listening to students and understanding not only the surface of things, but also understanding what their concerns are and addressing those concerns," he said. "I guess that comes from his day job, too."
The students should enjoy Biden's presence while they can because in the next 60 days, his schedule as Sen. Barack Obama's running mate may not allow him to come back many more times.
"I think they've got a pretty full calendar between now and November," said Hayman.
September 6, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (76)
LOL Obama liked earmarks before he hated them, earmarks like getting his wife's work millions of dollars in grants or his friend Rezkio 13 million for one of his 'projects' his other friends nuclear plant millions in subsidies, last year alone he took over 300 hundred million dollars for his friends back in Chicago and now he's running on cleaning up earmarks, keep talking you empty suit. Instead of getting rid of a jet Obama would have added a fleet and each one would bare his name the big 0, for being a big zero.
Posted by: frank | Sep 6, 2008 3:40:24 PM
The students better enjoy Biden's presence while they can because Obammy will arrainge him a "Vince Foster" accident very soon.
If he teaches about the Constitution, I wonder if he teaches them about voting against the 2nd Amendment every time.
We already know that Obammy votes against the 2nd Amendment every time.
Palin/McCain 08
Posted by: LarryMan | Sep 6, 2008 3:42:10 PM
Biden is a principled man who understands the world. Teaching the future leaders of our country and also listening to what they have to say is important for a leader to be able to lead. Palin as a hockey mom, PTA and 5 different colleges in order to get one degree is UNFIT to be Vice President. Unfit to lead this nation in these troubling times. This is not the school prom people this is the highest office of the land. Palin is Paris Hilton and Britney Spears all rolled up into one. I'm just waiting for the sex tape to come out.
Posted by: Karen | Sep 6, 2008 3:52:20 PM
What are the odds Biden will develop "asthma" again after 46 years requiring him to bow out. Obama will pay top dollar to have Clinton replace him. still won't work.
Posted by: geevill | Sep 6, 2008 3:52:29 PM
Here is some information that is guaranteed to enlighten you. This has already been forwarded to the Drudge Report and to several MSM services.
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 3:57:40 PM
Sorry, link didn't post above, so here it is. Spread to word..........
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 3:58:49 PM
Stop the drama, Vote Obama , want the same vote mccain
Stop the drama, Vote Obama , want the same vote mccain
Stop the drama, Vote Obama , want the same vote mccain
Posted by: yahya | Sep 6, 2008 4:08:06 PM
Frank- love the way your comment not only goes with the actual subject of this blog but you actually make sense too! I see you're a McCain supporter - you geniuses! No wonder you voted for Bush too - smart birds of a feather you all are! And you want another 4 more years to destroy this country? Geniuses - pure genius!
Posted by: RANT3000 | Sep 6, 2008 4:13:56 PM
I think I'll vote for the ticket that has the 2 Constitutional Law teachers instead of the one that doesn't understand the separation of church and state and that banning books is against the Constitution.
Posted by: diane | Sep 6, 2008 4:16:38 PM
Who is going to be the first MSM source to drop this bomb?
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/
This has been around for over 8 years on the net, yet no one reports on it? I do not understand the media's lovefest with John McCain. Get some shovels out and dig. It isn't hard to find creditable evidence of John S McCain's character. This guy is more flawed than Slick Willy! No one gave that guy a break!
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 4:21:05 PM
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John McCain's character?
He has more character in his broken arms than Obammy has in his whole cocained body.
I saw this website too...
www.vietnamveteransforjohnmccain
andandagainstbarakobammy.com
I can write BS too.
Palin/McCain 08
Posted by: LarryMan | Sep 6, 2008 4:29:21 PM
For all of you McCain/Palin pushers:
As commented by Gryphen at the Immoral Minority blog - "Jesus was a Community Organizer: Pontius Pilate was a Governor"
Think about it.
Obama/Biden '08
Posted by: Donna Hughes | Sep 6, 2008 4:38:03 PM
Here's the real reason McCain left his first wife,
Check out http://www.fatchick.org and the truth comes out.
Posted by: Larry Tate | Sep 6, 2008 4:39:21 PM
LarryMan,
You live in a fantasy land lol. At least provide factual evidence, not "made-up" websites. A quick internet lookup shows that you are fibbing lol.
We are fed up with the "made-up" stories our politicians shove down our throats. They don't need help from you.
Let me guess, you will vote for McCain because now he has his "trophy running mate" just like his past wives lol. You are the reason for his "bump" in the polls. You should be proud. I wonder if you have a daughter whose rights you care about?
That is character we can all believe in.
You are living in a fantasy if you believe that this man has "changed" from his Academy days! Google it. It is all out there. Actual, factual documents. Why do you think they call him "Crash" McCain? Even his instructions and classmates thought he was being pushed along by his Daddy. Sounds familar don't it. Oh, yes, DaddyBush push his son along too.
Guess McCain really is more of the Same.
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 4:43:48 PM
Stop the drama, Vote McCain , want the same vote Obama.
McCain/Palin-08
Posted by: chris | Sep 6, 2008 4:48:42 PM
I hate to copy this. But:
No way, No How, No McCain-Palin!
My high school principal is more qualified than that lady. Even had a larger budget that she ACTUALLY BUDGETED, not blow on wasteful pet projects for her cronies.
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 4:49:55 PM
FACT:
Vietnamese tell international press that POW McCain was "singled out for softer treatment"
A former Vietnamese Communist Party official is claiming Sen. John McCain was "quickly singled out for softer treatment" as a POW because "he was the son of an American admiral. Phung Van Chung, 70, who was a Communist Party official at the time McCain was captured said "top" Vietnamese leaders wanted to use McCain "for negotiations." Chung also said McCain is refusing "to acknowledge" the heroism of Mai Van On, a Vietnamese peasant who the Vietnamese say swam out during the bombing raid and rescued McCain from drowning. McCain's refusal to publicly recognize Mai Van On for saving "his life" has some in the media speculating that McCain is afraid that to do so would "fuel other, more damaging allegations that McCain exaggerated elements of his PoW ordeal in Hoa Lo prison.
Wish I my daddy was an Admiral. Instead, he just worked as an engineer. Guess I wouldn't get special treatment if I were captured. Damn it!
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 4:54:01 PM
In 2004 I heard and feared as I listened to Barack Obama's speech at the Democratic Convention. I saw a glib tongue who sells nothing but fools gold. I could see the empty void of positive beliefs between his words, but knew immediately that he is a "mass manipulator."
There is nothing in that suit but elitist arrogance. He is an "I" or "me" man. He is like the child that is asked to do the dishes while the other siblings help clean the rest of the house, but at the end of the day takes full credit for the entire job.
How can you get caught up in voting for someone who admits to hating America, and believe he is the best for it?
Posted by: Kathleen | Sep 6, 2008 4:57:44 PM
How can one get caught up in voting for someone who left our veterans on the field of battle? This person systematically ignored those POW/MIA personnel and their families in favor of the below:
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Since McCain was first elected to Congress 1982 (and later to the Senate), he and his staff have expended tens of thousands of hours pushing U.S. legislation favoring communist Vietnam. In 1995, McCain stood with Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass. to give President Bill Clinton valuable political cover he needed to disregard the issue of missing U.S. POWs in Vietnam and remove the U.S. trade embargo against Vietnam.
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Those are the facts. If you had sons and daughters deployed around the world, could you trust this man to bring them all home? His past ACTIONS demonstrate that he cares more about the Vietnamese than he does us veterans.
People, get out there and research!!!
Oh, I know, just vote for the hot chick! That's the ticket to getting our economy fixed. That's the ticket to getting the gas prices down. That's the ticket to getting medical care to our Grandparents and Children.
Oh, yes, I am going to vote for that hot chick that has done nothing but abuse her power for her own families gain. That is definitely the COUNTRY FIRST mentality I was thinking of!
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 5:08:28 PM
Stop the drama, Vote Obama , want the same vote mccain
Stop the drama, Vote Obama , want the same vote mccain
Stop the drama, Vote Obama , want the same vote mccain
Posted by: yahya | Sep 6, 2008 5:12:21 PM
In February, Reuters news reported that McCain's former captors are expressing delight in the news of his nomination as Republican party Presidential candidate. "In the past Senator McCain has conducted activities that had a positive impact in bringing the two nations [Vietnam/United States] closer. That is a point that Vietnamese people who follow the current affairs do recognize," said retired North Vietnamese Colonel Nguyen Van Phuong, representing retired and present members of the Vietnamese communist military.
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If you can not stand up against Vietnam and Bush, how can you stand up against Putin and the leaders of Iran, Korea, and Venezuela?
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 5:13:59 PM
Mommy taught me I
Can't drink;
Can't enter into a legal contract;
Can't use condoms;
BUT I CAN have sex and get married when I am only 17!
Yippee! Thanks Mom.
I will be sure to teach my daughter that condoms really are ok to use. Sure better than being stuck with this redneck, well at least until after the elections. Then I am dumping his ass!
These are family values you can believe in.
MOM! This isn't the "Change" I signed up for!
Posted by: Bristol | Sep 6, 2008 5:24:37 PM
You hear stories about Joe Biden like this, a commitment to young people (he obviously doesn't need to teach)and how committed he was after his wife died to his children. He seems like a really lovely person. What a positive person and a positive story.
Posted by: lily | Sep 6, 2008 5:24:55 PM
If you Republicans really loved this country you would want more than anything for it to be a partner with others in the world instead of a bully who goes around declaring other countries to be "Rogue States", thus causing them to launch or to revive and escalate any weapons programs they may have had, now for self defense in the face of a super power gone amuck.
This world is getting smaller all of the time and it requires cooperation instead of somebody running around like a bull moose in a china shop.
You Republicans don't want to cooperate in the world or to cooperate in Washington. McCain showed that whatever skills he had for "reaching across the isle" are atrophied by picking Palin for VP. In fact I think that he is either in the early stages of dementia or has sold out to the hard right fascists. All they want to do now is pick a fight.
And you all sit out there listening to that $4oo million bag of wind and s**t, Rush Limbaugh and the like, who will say anything and everything to keep the graqy rolling in. What a sorry bunch!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | Sep 6, 2008 5:26:06 PM
Joe Biden is good people Lily. Speaks his mind and speaks directly to "normal hard working Americans".
We need to elect more leaders like him into both partys.
Yes, I says leaders. Most of these other people are just politicians.
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 5:30:11 PM
That's McCain. He supported VN normalization because of the USA interest. US using VN to stop the China's development in Indonesia. "COUNTRY FIRST".
Posted by: chris | Sep 6, 2008 5:31:49 PM
neil1785,
Link to those supposed facts you are talking about...........
I have my facts straight, do you?
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 5:38:59 PM
Joe Biden a "leader"? please enlighten us. 36 years in the Senate representing banking interests. What else?
Posted by: geevill | Sep 6, 2008 5:41:51 PM
You hear stories about Joe Biden like this, a commitment to young people (he obviously doesn't need to teach)and how committed he was after his wife died to his children. He seems like a really lovely person. What a positive person and a positive story.
Lily bless you. You have restored my faith. There is at least one person who can make an intelligent, meaningful and insightful comment on this site. After reading other comments I was about ready to vomit. Wake up people! Vote for whoever you want but make it about issues not nonsense.
Posted by: lily | Sep 6, 2008 5:24:55 PM
Posted by: dunlike | Sep 6, 2008 5:42:21 PM
FACTS:
John S McCain was awarded a Silver Star and Purple Heart for heroism and wounds in combat. This heroism has been played up in the press and in his various political campaigns. But it should be known that there were approximately 600 military POW's in Vietnam. Among all of us, decorations awarded have recently been totaled to the following: Medals of Honor - 8, Service Crosses - 42, Silver Stars - 590, Bronze Stars - 958 and Purple Hearts - 1,249. John certainly performed courageously and well. But it must be remembered that he was one hero among many - not uniquely so as his campaigns would have people believe.
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 5:42:50 PM
geeville.
Here is that info you requested on Joe Biden. I am sure Sarah has experience on these right? LMAO!
The Singapore Treaty on the Law of Trademarks
Land-Based Sources Protocol to Cartagena Convention
Treaty with Malaysia on Mutual Legal Assistance.
Geneva Act of the Hague Agreement Concerning the International Registration of Industrial Designs.
Protocol Amending Tax Convention with Germany.
Protocol Amending Tax Convention with Denmark.
Protocol Amending Tax Convention with Finland.
Extradition Treaty with Malta.
Extradition Treaty with Estonia.
Extradition Treaty with Latvia.
Extradition Agreement with the European Union, together with 22 bilateral instruments that were subsequently signed between the United States and each EU Member State.
Mutual Legal Assistance Agreement with the European Union, together with 25 bilateral instruments that were subsequently signed between the United States and each EU Member State.
Patent Law Treaty and Regulations Under Patent Law Treaty.
2002 Amendments to ITU Constitution and Convention.
Protocol III to the1949 Geneva Conventions (A) and an Amendment (B) and a Protocol on Explosive Remnants of War (Protocol V) to the 1980 Convention on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Certain Conventional Weapons Which May be Deemed to be Excessively Injurious or to Have Indiscriminate Effects (C).
September 26, 2006 – Committee discharged Protocol III to 1949 Geneva Convention
(A); no report.
September 29, 2006 – Approved Protocol III to 1949 Geneva Convention (A).
1995 Revision of Radio Regulations.
Protocol to Treaty of Friendship, Commerce, and Navigation with Denmark.
Amendments to Constitution and Convention of International Telecommunication Union (ITU) (Geneva 1992).
1992 Partial Revision of the Radio Regulations (Geneva, 1979), with appendices, signed by the United States at Malaga-Torremolinos on March 3, 1992 (the “1992 Partial Revision”), together with declarations and reservations of the United States as contained in the Final Acts of the World Administrative Radio Conference for Dealing with Frequency Allocations in Certain Parts of the Spectrum (WARC-92).
Treaty Between the Government of the United States of America and the Government of the Kingdom of Sweden on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters, signed at Stockholm on December 17, 2001.
Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pollutants, with Annexes, done at Stockholm, May 22-23, 2001.
Convention on the Safety of United Nations and Associated Personnel, subject to an understanding and a reservation, adopted by the United Nations General Assembly by consensus on December 9, 1994, and signed by the United States on December 19, 1994.
Treaty Between the Government of the United States of America and the Government of the Republic of Nicaragua Concerning the Encouragement and Reciprocal Protection of Investment, with Annex and Protocol, signed at Denver on July 1, 1995.
The Rotterdam Convention on the Prior Informed Consent Procedure for Certain Hazardous Chemicals and Pesticides in International Trade, with Annexes, done at Rotterdam, September 10, 1998.
The Hague Convention for the Protection of Cultural Property in the Event of Armed Conflict and the Hague Protocol.
Inter-American Convention Against the Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms, Ammunition, Explosives, and Other Related Materials (the “Convention”),
adopted at the Special Session of the General Assembly of the Organization of American States (OAS) at Washington on November 13, 1997.
Convention (No. 111) Concerning Discrimination (Employment and Occupation), adopted by the International Labor Conference at its 42nd Session in Geneva on
June 25, 1958.
Comprehensive Nuclear Test-Ban Treaty, opened for signature and signed by the United States at New York on September 24, 1996. Treaty includes two Annexes, a Protocol, and two Annexes to the Protocol.
Protocols to the 1980 Convention on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Certain Conventional Weapons Which May Be Deemed to Be Excessively Injurious or to Have Indiscriminate Effects: (A) the amended Protocol on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Mines, Booby-Traps and Other Devices (Protocol II or the amended Mines Protocol); (B) the Protocol on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Incendiary Weapons (Protocol III or the Incendiary Weapons Protocol); and (C) the Protocol on Blinding Laser Weapons (Protocol IV).
United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, With Annexes, Done at Montego Bay, December 10, 1982 (the "Convention"), and the Agreement Relating to the Implementation of Part XI of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea of 10 December 1982, with Annex, Adopted at New York, July 28, 1994 (the "Agreement"), and signed by the United States, Subject to Ratification, on July 29, 1994.
Convention on Biological Diversity, with Annexes, done at Rio de Janeiro June 5, 1992, and signed by the United States in New York on June 4, 1993.
Protocol II Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, and relating to the Protection of Victims of Non-International Armed Conflicts.
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There is a ton more but frankly, I got sick of getting them all in here.
yeah, I know, Joe Biden isn't hot like Palin, but at least he gets the job done.
My vote goes to who can get the job done, not to the hottest one!
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 5:59:45 PM
John McBush has NO CHARACTER when he can not clearly outline a plan to give relief to the middle class. So, I assume he plans to keep our noses down to the ground. We are nothing to him and the men and women who are dieing in this needless war must not mean much either. HE DISTORTS OBAMA’S VOTING RECORD AND HIS OWN. IS IT THAT HE LOVES TO LIE OR IS HE SUFFERING FROM MEMORY LOSS?
Clearly, his concern is for his wife and their RICH friends. Every time he is pressed on issues that affect the middle class, he brings up being a P.O.W. Well, will someone please tell me how does that qualify him to be the president of the U.S.A.?
PATRIOT YES-PRESIDENT NO!
WAKE-UP PEOPLE IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE! Obama & Biden
Posted by: y.sister | Sep 6, 2008 6:11:55 PM
I don't know what some of y'all are talking about -- this is a great story about Biden and makes me like him even more! What an amazing man
Posted by: cataloo | Sep 6, 2008 6:20:24 PM
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tbstang, I learned to copy and paste in the 4th grade. Frankly you need more practice.
You left out a few with Hairplug Joe.
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(see, I can do that too)
He also voted FOR the Iraq War, oops, before he joined Obammy and opposing it.
He also voted FOR every anti 2nd Amendment bill put before him. He really knows the Constitution, don't he???????
He also helps promote Obammy's CHANGE --- oops, sorry, he's been there 34 years, needs to be put out to pasture.
Sarah Palin....
Posted by: LarryMan | Sep 6, 2008 6:20:36 PM
Way to go tbstang!!
Obama/Biden
Posted by: Donna Hughes | Sep 6, 2008 6:25:50 PM
LarryMan,
Still waiting to see those documents from you.
Alot of Congressional Members of BOTH Houses and ALL Americans would not have gave Bush the go ahead if the CIA's assessment was not "manipulated".
Even the CIA said there were no evidence of those weapons at the time.
And did Iraq attack us? NO
So McCain and Bush decided to screw the American service members to pad the pockets of his and Cheney's stocks and bank accounts.
My Friend, that is what Straight Talk really is.
Just what I want in the highest office in the Land. Two liars and only one is hot!
Wait until the Keating 5 comes back from the grave next month:
http://www.slate.com/id/1004633/
Even the Senate Ethics Committee found guilty of at least "poor judgment".
Poor Judgment = Bush and the Iraq War.
McCain has demonstrated the same "Poor Judgment"
The American people have realized, or they will very soon, that these 2 people are the same.
And poor Sarah and her family. I feel sorry for them. Never in the history of our political system has a family been so used like them for personal power.
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 6:43:03 PM
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Stang, if you knew anything about history, you would be dangerous.
Want to show us proof that the assessment was "manipulated". There was "evidence" because he had used chemical weapons twice already.
There might be more evidence but it ended up in somebody's PANTS to protect Slick Willie.
Iraq was not capable of attacking anyone? DUH!!! Saddam had already attacked TWO countries. He had sent Scuds to Israel, for no reason at all. DUH!!!
Want to tell us just how Bush and Cheney screwed the American people and lined their stocks?
When you call someone a LIAR it usually requires proof. But, not in your case I suppose.
Bush and McCain the same people? You need to get an eye exam, my friend.
Sarah Palin? Get used to saying Madame President.
Posted by: LarryMan | Sep 6, 2008 7:03:59 PM
LarryMan,
Still waiting on your proof that Iraq attacked us...................
Still waiting for that evidence that the President has the authority to declare war. Please show me the Constitutional article that is in.
You are obviously not a history buff or anything close.
You my friend may vote with whatever matrix you use.
The matrix I use to make any decision contains facts, history, logic, and common sense - which appears to be about extinct these days.
You go ahead and vote for the McCain-EyeCandy ticket, just don't complain like the Bushites are now.
What is Bush's approval rating these day?
With McCain voting for 95% of the things Bush has wanted to get done in the last year or so, these two men really do represent the same ol' same ol'.
Good Luck
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 7:26:38 PM
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Stang, how about getting the peanut butter out of your ears and listen.
We attacked Iraq because Congress, Senate, UN, and every friggin' democrat said we could. Slick Willie BOMBED Iraq, during the impeachment hearings. I'll say it again, he BOMBED IRAQ, remember? I know it was past your bedtime at the time, 8:00, but believe me he did.
The president can wage a war. You remember a few presidents called Truman, LBJ, Reagan, Bush One. They did. I would say look it up but you would have to buy encyclopedias.
I don't see anyone polling in my area, I would vote for Bush for 8 more years. My taxes are the lowest they have ever been. My Constitutional Rights are safer today than they were before 2000. Guess all they poll are democrats.
Since you don't like the "same ol' same ol", I guess you don't like Hairplug Joe who has been in Washington for 34 years and, OH NO, VOTED for the Iraq war.
Shame on YOU, Joe OBiden.
Palin/McCain 08
Posted by: LarryMan | Sep 6, 2008 8:58:29 PM
Still waiting for that evidence........
Have you ever bothered to read the Constitution? If not, you don't even know what your rights are as a citizen. So please tell me how you know that your rights are safer now than at any other time in history .......
Oh, I know, because a politician told you so. Hilter was a politician too. So was Stalin.
I will give Bush credit on one thing:
He was able to purchase your votes for the past 8 years with those tax rebate checks every year. Pretty slick. Even McCain couldn't duplicate that on his own.
Well, until you can provide some factual documentation at the same time as running your mouth, I do not feel like using my time responding to your clouded judgment.
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 9:11:51 PM
Here are Senator McCain’s achievements:
http://www.politicalbase.com/forums/topic/for-the-record-the-achievements-of-john-mccain/9684/
Can anyone tell me what Senator Osama’s achievements? Anyone? Anyone?
Posted by: Big Dog | Sep 6, 2008 9:11:57 PM
Here are some things on Jill Biden:
http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=1901
Just the everyday teacher. Currently a professor at a community college, she also worked as a reading specialist, an English high school teacher and a teacher in a mental health institution.
Jill founded the Biden Breast Health Initiative that focuses on education of early breast cancer detection.
Both are genuine good down to earth people.
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 9:16:11 PM
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TB, here are just a few of the facts, put down the nintendo and watch.
I know just a bit about the Constitution, I made all A's in two US Government classes in college actually taught by a State Senator's wife.
When Bush took office, my 2nd Amendment Rights were restricted by a totally UNConstitutional Assault Weapon Ban. It is gone. Thank you George Bush and Tom Delay.
Democrats tried to claim that My 2nd Amendment didn't pertain to my individual rights. It is gone. Thanks to George Bush and his two Supreme Court picks.
Tax Rebate checks? Open your friggin' ears!!! Obammma has proposed CHECKS to counter the high gas prices. He is trying to buy the votes of every left wing idiot in America.
You are pulling out of here? Your momma needs the computer?
Palin 2012
Posted by: LarryMan | Sep 6, 2008 9:23:13 PM
Big Dog,
Your link is not helping your candidate very much. Please provide factual evidence, not something that was written in there 2 days ago and is currently being fought over on that forum site.
I was going to quote some of the replies, but why bother.......
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 9:26:38 PM
The difference between the Obama/Biden and the Mcain/Palin ticket is that the former is highly educated to the point that both taught at the university level. If anything at all, America deserves ivy league alumni as president. at least we know from the start the intelligence is there. We all know you are in better hands when dealing with smart people who understand complex issues such as: global warming, foreign policy.... Bring in the academia! Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: yoye777 | Sep 6, 2008 9:30:02 PM
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Biden? Oh Brother!!!!!
He committed plagarism, he voted for the war before he was against it, he wanted to split Iraq into 3 parts that would have made it easy for Iran to just walk in.
He voted for every UnConstitutional anti gun bill every proposed.
He said he would be proud to run with McCain or against him.
He said racial slurs about Obamma.
He needs to be put out to pasture. His brain is fried.
Palin 08
Posted by: LarryMan | Sep 6, 2008 9:32:42 PM
LarryMan,
Stop wasting our time. You obviously think your "A's" make you qualified to be Vice President of something.
Is is so obvious from your posts that you are one of those Republicans that were thinking about holding their noses as you voted for McCain. But now you feel better because you can vote for the cutie! And, hell, she is pretty cute, but I do not like them to get used to serve someones agenda.
And, no, it is no longer Nintendo that our young people are playing with, it is rifles, satellite tracking software, and IED jamming devices and other things you wouldn't know much about.
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 9:36:14 PM
yoye777,
Yes intelligence would be welcome in the White House. It sure has been awhile since there has been some of that or common sense near that Rose Garden.
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 9:47:49 PM
Here are the "Family Values" that seemed to get forced upon us these days:
Sex before Marriage.
Condoms should be banned.
Forced Marriages.
Underage (non-adult) Marriages.
Daughters that get raped forced to have those babies.
Daughters that are involved with incest because of some sick, disgusting nutjob, forced to have that baby.
Cheating on your spouse is cool, especially if you are a self proclaimed War Hero!
Women do not deserve equal rights. Hell, they are lucky to get to vote nowadays! Did you know that an enslaved black man was able to vote before someone would even think about letting the wife of one of our Founding Father's the right to vote?
The Supreme Court decides what is best for your family. Those justices are supposed to tell us how to run our families and be our role models? Gimme a break!
You need to succumb to warrant-less wiretaps and search and seizures, because a politician says that makes us "safer". Sounds like invasion of your family's privacy to me.
Don't worry about staying committed to your spouse. If they become injured, disfigured, or over-weight, it is ok to replace them for the newest "model" literally!
If you can not be committed to your own spouse and family, how can you be qualified to tell me how make decisions that effect mine or select Supreme Court Justices that decide what's best for our families?
I will take candidates that are intelligent, common-sense minded, devoted to their family and yours, over any ol' politician that is just recycling trash from the last 8 years. My family and yours deserves better.
Jill is a hottie too!
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 6, 2008 10:07:54 PM
OMFG!
Wow, how could I have ever, ever been a Conservative?
Mom told me that Conservative views are not supposed to be:
http://www.slate.com/id/2176192/
Lynne Cheney explored lesbian themes chiefly by describing her protagonist's aversion to heterosexual sex:
He kissed her, forced her lips open with his mouth. She could taste the whiskey he had been drinking, feel his whiskers and the scab on his face. A wave of revulsion swept over her, and she pushed him away. As he fell back, the white bulldog moved toward her, his growl becoming louder.
"Ah, feisty, isn't she, Luper?" Wilson stroked the dog. "Well, sometimes that kind's the most fun."
To read more click below:
http://www.whitehouse.org/administration/lynne-cheney-sisters-complete.pdf
W-O-W!
I should have read this book before Mom announced my upcoming marriage to that myspace redneck!
Posted by: Bristol | Sep 6, 2008 10:23:15 PM
NEWSFLASH! THIS JUST IN:
McCAIN IS ACCUSED OF THEFT!
Apparently still reeling from being caught steeling no less than 12,000 US flags from the Democrats in an overnight raid recently, now authorities are revealing more theft complaints involving McCain and his personal entourage.
As if steeling 12,000 flags and blaming it on local Boy Scouts wasn’t enough, McCain now stands accused of steeling a copy of Gideon's bible from a hotel in Minneapolis during his stay there for the convention earlier this week.
Hotel employees gave a list of several items missing from the Hotel after McCain stayed there, including the Bible. Other missing items included three cocktail glasses, an ice bucket, several bars of soap, three rolls of toilet paper and those tiny little ketchup and mustard bottles.
Boy Scouts den mothers also expressed their dismay given the recent circumstances surround the wild accusations that somehow Boy Scouts were wandering the Invesco Arena area during the late hours after the DNC Convention and had stumbled upon 12,000 US flags, which they were then alleged to have stolen and having fenced in Minneapolis to the RNC. “I am shocked” said one mother. “Little Jimmy is in by sunset in tucked in by 8:30 every night, including weekends”.
"These Bibles are no longer free to steal” said the Hotel manager anonymously for fear of scurrilous reprisals by Republican fanatics. “It clearly states on the inside cover that you have to send away now for a free copy of the Gideon’s Bible” exclaimed the Hotel manager.
“You can’t just go willy-nilly taking things as if you own the world” the manager added. “I hear he was illegally downloading music off the internet last month to use in his TV commercials to bash the Democrats.”
Apparently McCain has long suffered from a rare disorder called “Hotel Kleptomania” stemming all the way back to his days in the Hanoi Hilton, where staff still insist he would take spoons, which have not been accounted for to this day. McCain still holds a grudge against the Hiltons, recently implicating young Paris Hilton in one of his regular tirades about Barack Obama, his staunch Democratic rival for the presidency.
The Hiltons were not available for comment, but a spokesperson for the Hotel chain said that McCain has been blacklisted from staying at their hotels since the early 70s due to missing items whenever he would stay at one of their hotels.
This is just one more blow to the McCain camp, still reeling from theft accusations including stealing Barack Obama’s political campaign theme and message as well, a message of change and reform. “We knew he had taken the message”, as did several witnesses who spotted McCain, Washington insider and veteran politician for a quarter century, spouting the term change and reform where several members of the American public were gathered.
One witness said he knew McCain had stolen Obama’s message when he heard McCain having tremendous difficulty pronouncing the word “change”. “It sounded so strange coming from Mr. McCain that you could readily see he was unfamiliar with the concept or how to pronounce the word” said one eye witness. A local panhandler handed McCain a dollar, thinking McCain was begging for a hand out. “I just felt sorry for the guy” said the homeless man, he kept saying “change”.
Mr. Obama stated that “This is a sad day for all Americans” and lamented that McCain really had no message or content of his own to use for his campaign. Mr. Obama volunteered to donate his political message and theme to McCain just as soon as he was finished with them, after November 6th.
Democratic supporters feeling bad for poor McCain have started a campaign and are mailing McCain their loose change.
Posted by: THIS JUST IN | Sep 6, 2008 10:28:59 PM
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Stang, I thought your momma took your computer away from you.
For your information, the Constitution is a bit more than just ignoring the parts YOU don't like.
So the last 8 years in the whitehouse have been trash? Nothing like having sex in the whitehouse, huh.
I have faith in the American people that they won't elect a liberal puke.
Palin 2012.
Posted by: LarryMan | Sep 6, 2008 10:32:03 PM
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Hey, JustIn, is this anything like stealing furniture, ashtrays, and keyboard keys when leaving the whitehouse in 2000?
Oh, I forgot, Hitlery needed the stuff to outfit that home in NY, you know the one she paid for with donations for the Klinton Library.
The Klinton's could write a book on stealing. Ooops, they did, the both of them wrote books and received millions of dollars to tell their lies. Sorry, I mean they told their life stories.
Palin 08
Posted by: LarryMan | Sep 6, 2008 10:47:40 PM
LarryMan,
Will you marry me?
Posted by: Bristol | Sep 6, 2008 11:05:56 PM
Posted by: newme234 | Sep 6, 2008 11:37:38 PM
Joe 'Plugs' Biden is the smartest man in the senate, ask him and he will tell you that.
Posted by: Norman | Sep 6, 2008 11:42:35 PM
newme234,
Couldn't have said it better than those people on video.
Posted by: tb-stang | Sep 6, 2008 11:46:24 PM
Who is the bristol person who keeps popping in here with all that funny crap?
Certainly it isn't the real Bristol. It all appears to be sad, but mostly true lol
Posted by: tb-stang | Sep 6, 2008 11:48:59 PM
The lead that Obama is commanding has shrinked further ...
The latest Gallup puts Obama at 47% (down 1%) and McCain at 45%. This is NOT taking into consideration the full comvention bounce for McCain/Palin.
The race is now officially TOO CLOSE TO CALL.
Posted by: Honey, I shrunk the lead | Sep 7, 2008 1:40:30 AM
Palin took 6 years to get ONE undergraduate degree at the lowest ranked universities. McCain graduated 5th from the bottom of an 899 student class in college. Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude and was the President and editor of the Harvard Law Review, and taught constitutional law for 12 years.
Can we really afford to have 2 people with low IQs on one ticket? At least Bush had Cheney, who is smart. McCain-Palin is doubling down on the stupid factor.
Posted by: Jamison | Sep 7, 2008 3:26:43 AM
I see someone is volunteering their time for the Obama Nation. Same paragraph word for word on several different links. It must suck to be you.
Posted by: j.jones2008 | Sep 7, 2008 4:35:26 AM
What a fantastic team for our country
Maccain: 3rd from the bottom in the Navy.
Palin : changing 6 colleges before graduation
Posted by: zen | Sep 7, 2008 8:22:22 AM
Who is Sarah Palin?
Great Celebrity (Obama is nothing compared to her)
She is already all over the magazine.. people, usweekly, national enquirer
But she can't appear in "Meet the Press", "Face the Nation", "This Week"....
Oh, Because she can perform well with script, but can't answer on her own...These are too difficult Programs for her bird's brain.
Posted by: zen | Sep 7, 2008 8:27:55 AM
I trust American people.
They can't be so stupid to vote for senile grandpa and hockey mom.
what a shame to the whole world.
Posted by: zen | Sep 7, 2008 8:31:57 AM
From the WALL STREET JOURNAL:
The biggest project that Sarah Palin undertook as mayor of this small town was an indoor sports complex, where locals played hockey, soccer, and basketball, especially during the long, dark Alaskan winters.
The only catch was that the city began building roads and installing utilities for the project before it had unchallenged title to the land. The misstep led to years of litigation and at least $1.3 million in extra costs for a small municipality with a small budget. What was to be Ms. Palin's legacy has turned into a financial mess that continues to plague Wasilla.
- Wall Street Journal
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122065537792905483.html
Is this the "Change" we really want for our country?
Just think, McCain obviously will not make it through his first term.... so Palin is going to pick up the mess left for her and do what? Some more of the same? Why do you think the Good Ol' Boys picked her? She is just a puppet and Cheney and Karl Rove are the masters.
I am putting COUNTRY FIRST by making sure these two pinheads do not get into office!
Posted by: tbstang | Sep 7, 2008 9:26:06 AM
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Jamison, since you are such an expert on colleges and degrees, can you tell us what constitutes a college degree?
Do you know what they call the guy (or gal) who graduates last in his class at Med School? Take your time, now.
For your information, I have two college degrees and it took me over 20 years to get them. Other things got in my way, like working, raising a family, partying ... oops, sorry.
In Sarah's case, it kinda looks like she may have been kinda busy, uh, HAVING BABIES while trying to work toward a degree ????????????
But, to you women's lib libs, that is a NO NO.
Then you take ZEN, what a moron. There just may be a reason that she is not appearing right now. Could be she is STUDYING the issues. The last two years she has been rather busy doing, uh, ALASKA GOVERNOR WORK. Kinda hard to worry about what was going on in bum 'uk Egypt when there was no inkling that one would be a VP pick.
Try to get some smarts. Please try.
Palin 08
Posted by: LarryMan | Sep 7, 2008 9:41:01 AM
A pit bull who is afraid of the press?
Sarah Palin seems to be enjoying this reputation as tough, strong and feisty. But really - how can you be those things if you are afraid of th



