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September 04, 2008 8:41 AM

ABC News' Matthew Jaffe reports: Some might have expected Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., to come out swinging after Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's scathing speech last night at the Republican convention in St. Paul, Minn. But Thursday morning, Biden threw more punches at the "sexist" press than at his vice presidential counterpart.

"No one has to wonder about there being a sexist bone in my body," Biden said in an appearance on "Good Morning America." "And the truth is, some of the stuff that the press has said about Sarah, and that others have said about the governor, I think, are outrageous. Look, I think kids are off-limits, flat off-limits.

"I think this stuff about how can she be a governor and vice president and raise three kids -- c'mon, whoever those folks are don't know any strong women," he continued.

"I just think some of the stuff said has been over the top, totally unfair, and has been sexist, and I think the way the governor has handled it has been admirable."

As for how Palin handled her speech at the Republican National Convention, Biden said he was impressed.

"I thought she had a great night," the senator said of Palin. "I thought she had a very skillfully written and very skillfully delivered political speech, and I was impressed with her.

"I was also impressed with what I didn't hear," Biden added. "I didn't hear a word mentioned about the middle class, or health care, or about how people are going to fill up their gas tanks."

The Democratic vice presidential nominee noted that the speech reeked of the influence of Karl Rove.

"That's sort of the Rovian way of doing things," he said. "You know, I think it's a political skill set that Republicans have used with some effectiveness over the years, and so, it's not surprising to me.

"I don't know if they're effective or not," he said of such tactics. "That's for the American people to decide. My guess is that they saw through a lot of it. So much of what was said was just simply not true."

The senator cited taxes as one example, noting the case of Palin's sister, who owns a gas station.

"I should let her sister know she'd be better off under a Democratic plan."

But it was not what Palin said that stood out for Biden -- it was what she didn't say.

"She never once mentioned the word Afghanistan, never once mentioned the word Pakistan," he said. "The phrase 'middle class' was not mentioned once."

Of course, some of the things Palin did say served to attack the Democratic ticket, but Biden said he will not ratchet up his rhetoric in response to his Republican opponents.

"I'm not going to change my tone about John McCain, I think it's just kinda sad the way they went after Barack Obama," he said.

"They're good funny lines," Biden acknowledged. "I gotta admit, I'm glad they weren't about me, ya know. I mean, I'm sitting there thinking, 'Whoa, look at that zinger.'"

And Obama's running mate has already started raising expectations for Palin ahead of the veep debate on Oct. 2 in St. Louis.

"I think she's gonna be a pretty skillful debater. I think it'll be a tough debate for me."

September 4, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (204)

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Sarah shone last night!! She was AWESOME! She's brilliant, qualified, capable, graceful, and full of great ideas from which our country will benefit! I can't wait to have her as our next VICE-PRESIDENT! :)

Way to go, Sarah! You're a great example of authentic womanhood and a smart, qualified Republican!

MCCAIN/PALIN '08

Posted by: Theresa T. | Sep 4, 2008 8:51:43 AM

Thank God for Biden. Through the entire speech last night I kept waiting to hear what McCain/Palin were going to do to help our country and instead all I heard was how they think Obama is elitist.

Joe Biden said it best... its about what we did NOT hear.

The reason we didn't hear anything about jobs, healthcare, afghanistan... is because they've got no plan!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHA... I can't wait for one planted question for Palin in a town hall such as... "who is the President of Georgia?"... just to watch her fumble and bumble will be a fun sight to see.

Anyone can read a teleprompter... but can you debate Joe Biden on foreign policy? HAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Blake | Sep 4, 2008 8:52:08 AM

The pupose of Sarah Baracuda's speech was not to outline a McCain Admin policy, rather to introduce Sarah Palin, a ball of fire, as we saw.

At the same time, though, it is clear, from the speech, how the policy is gonna go.

Snooty Libs got reason to worry. They are seen now as the problem, and we begin their demolition.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 9:03:41 AM

As a Democrat supporting Democrats downticket and McCain for President, I think the Republicans can breathe a sigh of relief. Sarah Palin did women proud. She will not back down, she will not be destroyed by a pro-Obama media, and she showed how strong women really can be. As a woman, I was proud of her, and I think she will make a fine Vice President. If the DNC doesn't think this woman is going to bring over some moderate and conservative-leaning Hillary supporters, they are living in Fantasy Land. I don't like all her stances, but I like Sarah just fine. McCain-Palin have the support of all the women in my extended Irish-American family.

Posted by: Carrie | Sep 4, 2008 9:04:31 AM

Hey, McCain said it himself - "This election is not about issues. It's about personality." So according to him, it doesn't matter that you don't have a job, it doesn't matter if you can't afford health care, it doesn't matter if your kids have to drop out of school because they can't afford it, it doesn't matter that we're spending 10 trillion dollars a month in Iraq and our kids are being killed and maimed and there's no help for them if they make it back to the US alive, it doesn't matter that our country is a laughingstock to the rest of the world and we've lost the respect of our allies. (Now THAT's dangerous.) And, it doesn't matter that the separation of church and state, which our constitution guarantees, is in the process of being destroyed, first by the Bush administration, and now by the McCain/Palin evangelical agenda. This election is really a personality contest? Coulda fooled me. I really did think for a while there that this election was about the issues that affect our lives and livelihood. Silly me.

Posted by: 59 year old white woman obama supporter | Sep 4, 2008 9:07:37 AM

days through the Republican convention and not a single word about issue # 1, the ECONOMY. Not one word from the keynote speaker, not a word from the VP candidate. All they know how to do is hurl insults. republicans are more concerned with winning elections than goevrning. They say never mind about the disaster of the last 8 years, vote for McCain because she was a POW. Never mind her draconian, insane stance on women's rights, vote Palin because she is female. This is a pathetic party that is quickly pushing itself into irrelevance. Sooner or later Palin will have to face that devil liberal press. we'll see how she holds up without the speech Bush's speech-writer wrote for her.

Posted by: Kevin | Sep 4, 2008 9:09:53 AM

My question for the Mcfool followers. What will they do for Americans??? They try to scare everyone as if Obama will not protect us. McDumb says he know how to win wars. What was has he won??? Bin Laden sent minions to this country and killed 3,000 of our brothers an sisters. When it came time to protect America, Bush, Cheney and McCain decided it was best to attack someone who had nothing to do with it. How is that protecting us? How is that following Bin Laden to the "gates of hell"??? He's in NW Pakistan/Afghanistan. Look there first. That's cowardice if you ask me. If someone punches you in the mouth, would you go after them or someone standing off to the side? That's what this administration did with McCains support. How do they explain that? They're cowards with no sense of duty or honor to those who died on that tragic day.

Posted by: Craig | Sep 4, 2008 9:10:47 AM

So, ABC didn't like my post and they took it off? Isn't that called censorship? Another thing to look forward to in a McCain/Palin administration...

Posted by: 59 year old white woman obama supporter | Sep 4, 2008 9:11:40 AM

Joe Biden is a statesman who can call almost every country's leader around the world and have a direct dialogue with because he has met them. He has been a champion on behalf of women in the United States for writing and getting passed the law for prosecuting domestic violence against women and the legislation to put 100,000 new police on the streets of the US. For these petty attacks from a woefully unqualified neopphyte to attack him and Senator Obama is pure political theater written by a very good speechwriter. For the last three years, Barack Obama has been vetted by the American people. Through over twenty debates, through every vicious attack, some warts, yes, some worries yes. but there is a true sense of hope and future planning instead of staus quo that cannot continue. Let Govenor Palin's vetting proccess begin now and see where it leads.

Posted by: Frank | Sep 4, 2008 9:12:09 AM

PALIN WORE AN ALASKA FIRST PIN. WHATS WRONG WITH THE AMERICAN FLAG PIN?

Posted by: vet watching | Sep 4, 2008 9:12:27 AM

Uggghhh lord knows I am not a big Obama fan, but I thew up a little yesterday watching this. There was no inspiring message about how to lift yourself up. It was all fire and brimestone, the republicans truly looked like the devil.

Posted by: rachel | Sep 4, 2008 9:14:08 AM

Please someone help me out to verify the fect that when Mr. Biden ran for USA president twice and he's got what, less amount of votes than what Sarah got when she ran for the Mayor of a small and unknown town. Shame on you Mr. Biden! Show American people that you have cojones not the otherway around.

Posted by: mtr2311 | Sep 4, 2008 9:15:52 AM

I consider myself and Independent voter who votes for candidates not parties. I supported Hillary Clinton 100%, but have tried to keep an open mind about both presidential candidates.THANK YOU SARAH PALIN -- YOU'VE MADE MY CHOICE SO MUCH EASIER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: heidi | Sep 4, 2008 9:16:10 AM

Let the vetting begin!!!

Insane McCain/Secession Sarah '08!

Posted by: firedup | Sep 4, 2008 9:16:11 AM

The thought of hearing that screechy voice for the next 2 months is too much!I can't wait for that country bumpkin to talk about foreign policy with Joe Biden. No doubt she will dish out the sarcasm and when it's time for her to take a punch she'll turn into the victimized woman who is being disrespected.

Posted by: Ex Republican | Sep 4, 2008 9:17:22 AM

Republicans should lose for the mess they have created. Of course Obama and the dems will just add to the mess. Eventually the country will be either smart enough or desperate enough for real change. Ron Paul.

Posted by: Ben Straub | Sep 4, 2008 9:19:14 AM

Guilliani has to be the slimiest politician on the planet. How much fame and money has that snake gotten from the worst attack on American soil. He is too elitist to have a relationship with his own son. I wonder when he is going to dump his current wife for another bimbo?

Posted by: Joe | Sep 4, 2008 9:22:21 AM

Nobody is listening to the snooty, sneering Libs.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 9:23:23 AM

Lib blood is in the water.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 9:25:31 AM

Funny Americans....so the election is about a childish ranting women...about Republicans attack? ...Name Calling....not about issues anymore!!Gooduck if you believe 8yrs lesson is nothing......other countries are moving on!

Posted by: Barry | Sep 4, 2008 9:27:25 AM

==Funny Americans....so the election is about a childish ranting women...about Republicans attack? ...Name Calling....not about issues anymore!!Gooduck if you believe 8yrs lesson is nothing......other countries are moving on!==

Without our money, we hope.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 9:28:33 AM

Sarah is an insult to women. She cries sexism everytime a little tidbit is dug up on her. Her speech was written by someone else for her to give. She is not an original or a maverick. She is a unqualified woman trying to fill the void on a horrible Republican ticket. Nice try McCain this country isn't as stupid as you hoped!

Posted by: Hippiemom | Sep 4, 2008 9:28:52 AM

How does 5 years in a prison cell make you ready to be president? Everybody knows McCain has anger issues. Do you think 5 years of imprisonment and torture screwed his head up? Do we really want someone who might has some sort of post traumatic mental illness running our country and especially our military?

Posted by: John | Sep 4, 2008 9:29:16 AM

==so the election is about a childish ranting women...about Republicans attack? ...Name Calling....not about issues anymore!!==

Nobody is listening to Libs, except to take what Libs say as confirmation of Conservative values.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 9:31:36 AM

==How does 5 years in a prison cell make you ready to be president?==

You don't know, and THAT's the problem.

== Everybody knows McCain has anger issues.==

Oh, well.

== Do you think 5 years of imprisonment and torture screwed his head up?==

No.

== Do we really want someone who might has some sort of post traumatic mental illness running our country and especially our military?==

Do we wanna listen to somebody like you who may have mental problems?

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 9:34:15 AM

Whenever Joe Biden says he was impressed and that he is worried about his competency, watch out. He thinks this woman is toast. Hope he doesn't get to over confident.

Posted by: Chuck | Sep 4, 2008 9:34:51 AM

==Sarah is an insult to women.==

Lib women.

== Her speech was written by someone else for her to give.==

They all are.

== She is not an original or a maverick.==

Oh, well.

== She is a unqualified woman...==

A Lib would say that, when threatened.

==... trying to fill the void on a horrible Republican ticket.==

We don't expect a rabid Lib to like the GOP tix. That's ok cuz we don't need you. We got Sarah "Baracuda"!

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 9:37:59 AM

Dems new strategy is to tag Sarah Palin with Bush. They didn't succeed with McCain because everyone knows they hate eachother, so now they says it about Palin. I saw her speech, and I don't think she looked like Bush one bit. Obama is the charming IVY-league bubler of words in the crowd running for office.

Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | Sep 4, 2008 9:39:23 AM

is it just me or have the GOP become exactly what they joked about obama

empty speaches, no experience, no substance...

the whole gop convention ahs not mentioned any plans...

its only attack attack attack... with no substance

talk about empty suit...

packed with lies! how many bald faced lies did she tell last night?

the bridge to nowhere? uhmmmmmm you supported that governor...

"if the democrats become elected we will all die!"

"we are in trouble in the economy because of the democrats... shhh nevermind the last 7 years we were in power"

oh and sara palin could have never got as many votes for mayor as biden got for president.... not even if she won 100% fo the vote, it would take 2 election cycles in her small town

my god this is a joke

Posted by: Bhrandon | Sep 4, 2008 9:41:17 AM

That was the most sarcastic and downright nasty political convention I've ever seen. I still can't figure out what the republicans are for... but I get the message that they have no respect for Obama. Underestimate Obama at your own peril, fools.

Palin proved she can act as tough as Bush and read Rove's teleprompter. Big deal. There are hundreds of thousands of women who could do that. Why would I be impressed?

Student council? Maybe.

VP? Not gonna happen.

Posted by: mgks | Sep 4, 2008 9:42:16 AM

Sarah was/is Fantasic! She is someone who this country can look up to. The McCain-Palin ticket will make sure the middle class and healthcare are in the priorities. That is why she brought up her youngest child.
Go McCain-Palin!!!!!!! Problem solvers!

Posted by: lyle | Sep 4, 2008 9:42:27 AM

Sarah "Baracuda": Sounds like a real American, to me.

The problem isn't that conservatism is too strong in this country; it isn't strong enough...until last evening, that is. Americans WANT Conservative, and they're showing it.

Angry white males, just like '94, are chomping at the bit, and we're taking this country back this November!

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 9:43:00 AM

Pnader! Where was he when the same crap was happening to Hillary. He could care less. He know there are in for a fight now & that the sexist crap has pi**ed a lot of women off! Biden needs to go to ancestry.com & find his roots because what he is pedaling as blue-collar doesn't look very blue to me!

Hillary 2012

Posted by: rockthebleachers | Sep 4, 2008 9:46:17 AM

Lib detractors against Palin don't have an audience, and their remarks go only to energize Republicans and independents who felt that they had nowhere to go.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 9:46:51 AM

Chuck,
I couldn't agree more. That's very uncharacteristic of Joe Biden. Man, the Obama team must have done a good job reigning this champion. Although I love the new and disciplined Joe, I must say his maverick style is what attracted me to him. Like you I hope he does not get over confident.

Posted by: D | Sep 4, 2008 9:47:39 AM

Mr. Incredible, can you do anything other than call people liberals?

I think given the past 8 years, I think "conservative" might be the new bad word.

Posted by: Mr. Super-incredible | Sep 4, 2008 9:47:48 AM

==Hillary 2012==

Palin will run in '12, and she will smack Hil down.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 9:48:06 AM

2000, 2004, 2008, Rove, Limbaugh, Bush- Cheney, McCain-Palin.

By order of importance and influence.

Posted by: Thinking | Sep 4, 2008 9:48:13 AM

Not trying to burst any bubbles, but Biden "the Statesman" is a bit of a stretch. Mr Biden has a history of plagiarizing - from his university days, law school and even in public political forums where he out right, without even changing a word or two, used a British politian's (Neal Kinnock) speech during a 1987 campaign speech. Biden initially denied any wrongdoing, claiming that this was just an inadvertent lack of acknowledgement. Yet there were other instances of rhetorical borrowing from speeches made by Robert F. Kennedy and Hubert Humphrey. And the fact that Biden had given other speeches using the Kinnock passages without acknowledgment suggested that the lifting was more than just an inadvertent oversight. Is he really the Statesman we want near the White House?

Posted by: NOLA56 | Sep 4, 2008 9:48:34 AM

Sometimes a good offense is a good defence. I see the strategy Mr. Biden and I hope it works. Focus on what's important but be careful, even a dog on a chain can bite if you don't keep a wary eye on it.

Posted by: James | Sep 4, 2008 9:49:36 AM

==Mr. Incredible, can you do anything other than call people liberals?==

You must be embarassed to be Lib. Gee, that's tough.

==I think given the past 8 years, I think "conservative" might be the new bad word.==

While you are concentrating on the past eight years, we are concentrating on the next eight years. Sarah "Baracuda" is the future, and it is bright. Right now, the rabid Lib of O and B isn't lookin' too good, thanks to "Baracuda."

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 9:51:01 AM

As an independent, I'm looking for what these people are going to do.

What I saw last night reminded me of the first GW Bush convention.

I hate to say it, but the republican party created the economic and foreign policy mess we're in today. The debt has EXPLODED and I don't see any sign that they get it. McCain has toed the line with Bush for 8 years. Maverick? Who are you kidding? We need policy.

Palin can attack Obama all night long if she wants, but frankly I'm sick of that ole GOP viscous personal attack game. Look where it got us.

Posted by: will | Sep 4, 2008 9:51:15 AM

Working Title: High School Musical, Palin Plain and Evil or Palin the Impaler?
Why does she remind me of a popular teenage cheerleader, the one who bullies smart kids but later ask them to help her cheat on a test? Fine, she can succesfully rally her base, that's how she became governor but in light of this speech, she's just a bitter woman who's been rode hard and put away wet. Putting lipstick on any pit bull doesn't make them any safer. They are still a threat to the neighborhood.

Posted by: William | Sep 4, 2008 9:51:45 AM

For the jerk above who would not do some research, let me educate you a little. Joe Biden got almost 80000 votes this primary alone. That's about 9 times the population of her town. She would have had to get 100% of the vote for nine years in order to get as many votes as he got during this primary. Are we really that dumb?

Posted by: D | Sep 4, 2008 9:51:53 AM

The "Baracuda" is in the water and she smells blood!

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 9:52:13 AM

Oh no! Rove! Well Joe, if he did write it I assume he gave her permission to do it. Taking someone elses work and making it your own isn't nice.

Posted by: david | Sep 4, 2008 9:52:16 AM

I'd like all of you who state that McCain/Palin are problem solvers to give examples. Because in the past week of the RNC, not one specific example of resolution has been put forth. It's obvious to me, and indeed, any rational person, that those of you who are convinced McCain and Palin are problem solvers are going strictly on an emotional viewpoint, as they have yet to submit any solutions to the issues that plague us today. Watch Campbell Brown's interview of Tucker Bounds if you want confirmation of Palin's "abilities". It's hilarious.

Posted by: Anie | Sep 4, 2008 9:52:23 AM

==Are we really that dumb?==

Well, yes, Libs are.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 9:53:13 AM

I think Obahma doesn't knwo where the hole in his ass is!

Posted by: diana | Sep 4, 2008 9:53:15 AM

Republicans Message = we will all die and be tortured if the democrats get the white house, and the economy and jobs will all evaporate and america will die in fire and brimstone


Democrats Message = If we all band together and work hard for our dreams the american people can change how america is and make it work for them, restore america, restore americas image, restore americas greatness

i mean, its like night and day with these people....

guess whos been in charge for the last 8 years... the republicans!

oh but but but the congress has been democratic for the last two years...

ok so you guys can F things up for 6 years and we have to reverse all those 6 in 2.... oh but, wait, you have to do it with a president who vetos everything coming across his desk and a congress that isnt a phillabuster

i mean what ajoke... thanks but not thanks mcsame and lamelin

oh hey paylin what experience do you have again?

community organizer... obviously you dont know what a community organizer is, its someone who organizes people who feel their government is overlooking them...

which is what you republicans are still doing... not one word about how they will change what is going on...

oh wait... im sorry they will drill everywhere... ok there now we know the platform drill drill drill drill drill

ohhhh teh evil oil companies... but not that evil because we still want to drill drill drill drill

Posted by: Bhrandon | Sep 4, 2008 9:53:27 AM

that was soooo cute

bunch of ballface lies

but cute.

Posted by: Omentum | Sep 4, 2008 9:54:38 AM

==frankly I'm sick of that ole GOP viscous personal attack game.==

So what? You weren't gonna vote Republican anyway.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 9:55:04 AM

SHE NEVER MENTIONED HEALTH CARE WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

SHE MENTIONED NOTHING... if anything they said americans need to figure out how to pick themselves up... you are all a bunch of whiners we made it why cant you


thanks but not tahnks rethugs

Posted by: Bhrandon | Sep 4, 2008 9:55:24 AM

It is not very difficult to blurt out a speech written by some backstage attack dogs. The difficulty is ahead when Palin faces the media and get drilled on her knowledge of real world politics that are far different from those of Alaska. She called herself a lipstck wearing pit bull. What do you call a she pit bull. I think the gloves may have come off with her shreiky speech. It was difficult to hear her voice for more than a few seconds. McCain-Pa(l)in.

Posted by: BeeVee | Sep 4, 2008 9:55:41 AM

some are comparing her to reagan.... give me a freakin break

keep pumping her up and she will pop.

Posted by: Omentum | Sep 4, 2008 9:56:48 AM

It is not very difficult to blurt out a speech written by some backstage attack dogs. The difficulty is ahead when Palin faces the media and get drilled on her knowledge of real world politics that are far different from those of Alaska. She called herself a lipstck wearing pit bull. What do you call a she pit bull. I think the gloves may have come off with her shreiky speech. It was difficult to hear her voice for more than a few seconds. McCain-Pa(l)in.

Posted by: BeeVee | Sep 4, 2008 9:56:56 AM

D = misinformed

Biden got all of about 9300 votes in the 3 primaries he was in. Still more than the town that she was mayor but not more than her state!

Posted by: rockthebleachers | Sep 4, 2008 9:57:29 AM

Don't let these Libs tell you that you need affordable healthcare, or that you need good paying jobs, or you need a better education! And who really gives a crap what the rest of the world thinks about us! I sure as heck don't.

Vote McCain/Palin!!

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 9:57:39 AM

First time in my life I will be skipping an election. All of the chosen candidates are not what we need. I'm out....

Posted by: XJSCAVE | Sep 4, 2008 9:58:06 AM

I had trouble with the lies about taxes. The fact is that Bush has given tax breaks to the extremely wealthy at the expense of the middle class. Obama says he will cut...CUT...C...U...T taxes for 70% of Americans. I'm pretty sure I fit into the 70th percentile. How about you? Meanwhile the republicans have borrowed over a trillion dollars from China to pay for the disaster in Iraq (that McCain voted for) knowing full well that it will be paid by our grandkids. And the whole drill here now spin...that's got big oil written all over it and what does it do to lessen our dependence on oil? Why do so many people vote against their own self interests? It seems so sad to me, the sheer ignorance of these people. They see some small town woman standing proud...all I see is a snake oil saleman. Can we servive ANOTHER 4 years of this republican insanity?

Posted by: MaxMax | Sep 4, 2008 9:58:36 AM

What she had was nothing more than lies and ranting. After King George.. we really need someone who is under investigation for abuse of power. The Dems offered solutions. The Republicans offered ranting and jokes. Way to go.

Posted by: Nix | Sep 4, 2008 9:59:38 AM

To Rachel (the post at 9:14:08 am)

Biden did get more votes during the primary than Palin did running for Mayor. Palin received 616 votes in 1996 and 909 in 1999. Biden received 76,165 votes in the 2008 primaries. This is according to Jim Kuhnhenn, political reporter for the Associated Press. Next time Rachel, wait for the answer to your question before you go off on Biden or anyone else for that matter.

Posted by: JW | Sep 4, 2008 10:00:01 AM

FACT: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired lobbyists to bring in millions in federal earmarks and ran up a massive debt. She was almost recalled.

FACT: She supported the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. What you heard last night was a flat-out Rovian LIE.

FACT: As governor for about 18 months, she is the subject of a massive ethics investigation.

FACT: Palin has ZERO foreign policy background, a scary thought considering McCain is 72 and constantly battling cancer. She's only been out of the country once!

Look. Seems like a great lady. The kind of person it'd be fun to have a beer with. Just like Bush. But let's not make that mistake again. We need leaders with a bold vision of the future and a plan for how to get there.

OBAMA-BIDEN 2008

Posted by: mgks | Sep 4, 2008 10:00:40 AM

==It is not very difficult to blurt out a speech written by some backstage attack dogs.==

All these speeches are written by somebody else.

The Lib vote is a known quantity; we already know they won't vote Republican. So, what they say is irrelevant.

Let the dogs bark. The train rolls on!

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 10:00:44 AM

To Mr. Incredible

Gosh, good to see you join those staunch defenders of feminism, Sean Hannity, Karl Rove, and Bill O'Rielly in the past 4-5 days. Wow. The republicans are the new Gloria Steinem. Will wonders never cease.....

Posted by: hh | Sep 4, 2008 10:01:18 AM

Rachel,

To your question about verifying whether Sarah P. got more votes as mayor than Joe B. did in the Democratic Primaries, the answer is no--he got more than she did in South Carolina alone. But so what? It's an irrelevant metric. As McCain's manager said, they're not running on the issues, they're running on personalities. And the best way to do that is through commercials and speeches--and to keep your candidate as far from the press as you can. Rove excels as image-making. Look where it's gotten us.

Posted by: Peter | Sep 4, 2008 10:01:39 AM

==What she had was nothing more than lies and ranting.==

That's what the Lib machine is telling you to say. Nobody is listening.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 10:02:08 AM

NOLA56:
Your Biden "News" is so old that everyone has heard it long ago. Beating a dead horse doesn't do much good. Besides the whole episode was a swiftboating by the Dukakis campaign at the time.

However, if you want to go after old history from the '80's then let's talk about McCain and the Keating 5, and the Savings and Loan debacle! Then you see which is worse.

Posted by: Donna Hughes | Sep 4, 2008 10:02:30 AM

As part of his "Tax Fairness for the Middle Class" plan, Barack Obama is in favor of nearly doubling the capital-gains tax rate from 15 percent to 28 percent.


Under Obama’s plan to let the scheduled 2011 tax rate hikes occur, and his plan to raise the self-employment tax on those making more than $250,000, the S corporation rate would rise from 35 percent to 39.6 percent. The sole proprietor and partner rate would rise from 37.9 percent all the way up to a staggering 50.3 percent. Many Democrats in Congress have proposed making all small businesses (including S corporations) pay this 50-plus percent rate. A small business tax rate that high would be the highest marginal rate faced by them in nearly a quarter-century.

Posted by: rockthebleachers | Sep 4, 2008 10:02:53 AM

"All these speeches are written by somebody else." - Mr. Incredibly dumb

FACT: Obama wrote the entirety of his acceptance speech by himself.

I'd love to see McCain, Mr. 5th from the bottom of his graduating class... even write a complete sentence.

Posted by: Blake | Sep 4, 2008 10:03:17 AM

Wow, all of you "thank you Sarah!" etc. posters... you do realize her speech was written and prepared BEFORE she was even selected as McCain's VP, right? It was edited by McCain's campaign the last few days. So you're all swayed by and ready to give up your vote to a woman reading a teleprompter who is nowhere near qualified to be one heartbeat away from the presidency? I fear for this country...

Posted by: John | Sep 4, 2008 10:03:31 AM

Mr. Incredible,
You seem to be having fun supporting your candidate, and it's something I could live with. People like you can make for a fun conversation. What I despise is the vitriolic rants coming from irrational individuals. After the last 8 years, you might want to reconsider using the word "lib" as an insult. Not that I believed people should've run away from it in the first place, but I don't see it being a disadvantage being labeled a liberal.

Posted by: D | Sep 4, 2008 10:03:59 AM

xjscave

press the little "x" in the upper left of your screen and have a nice day

Posted by: Omentum | Sep 4, 2008 10:04:00 AM

xjscave

maybe its on the upper right on your screen.

but at any rate

byebye

Posted by: Omentum | Sep 4, 2008 10:04:54 AM

I could not bear her shreiky voice for more than a few seconds. It is not difficult to blurt out a speech written by backstage attack dogs. Ms.Pa(l)n has to face the media drilling in days to come that will put her knowledge of world political situation and her grasp of things to test. I wonder what will this lipstick wearing pit bull do then. Attack them?

Posted by: BeeVee | Sep 4, 2008 10:05:15 AM

==To Mr. Incredible

Gosh, good to see you join those staunch defenders of feminism, Sean Hannity, Karl Rove, and Bill O'Rielly in the past 4-5 days. Wow. The republicans are the new Gloria Steinem. Will wonders never cease.....==

"Baracuda" has the right and correct qualities for the country. Has nothing to do with feminism.

You people are threatened by a strong, intelligent, Conservative woman who just happens to be great-looking, too.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 10:05:38 AM

== ...I don't see it being a disadvantage being labeled a liberal.==

Then, you don't have a problem with my using it. Good, cuz I'm not gonna stop using it.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 10:07:28 AM

==I could not bear her shreiky voice for more than a few seconds.==

So what?

== It is not difficult to blurt out a speech written by backstage attack dogs.==

All those speeches are written by others. So what?

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 10:08:45 AM

I think Mr.Incredible probably has his own little happy time looking at photos of that "strong, intelligent, Conservative woman who just happens to be great-looking, too."

Posted by: tubesock | Sep 4, 2008 10:09:08 AM

When people find out that Ms. Palin has been nursing at the earmark laden breast of Washington for her entire political career, some daylight may shine on her "change" theme, as well as her speech ("I told Washington, No Thanks."). The fact is, while the "bridge to nowhere" hasn't been built, Alaska (Palin) still took and has the money. So all you Republic Party followers, be careful because the truth soon comes home to roost!

Posted by: Thinking Tennessean | Sep 4, 2008 10:10:04 AM

==...you do realize her speech was written and prepared BEFORE she was even selected as McCain's VP, right? It was edited by McCain's campaign the last few days. So you're all swayed by and ready to give up your vote to a woman reading a teleprompter who is nowhere near qualified to be one heartbeat away from the presidency? I fear for this country...==

You felt that way before her speech. So, so what?

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 10:10:10 AM

==I think Mr.Incredible probably has his own little happy time looking at photos of that "strong, intelligent, Conservative woman who just happens to be great-looking, too."==

Typical Lib response. Nobody is listening to Libs.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | Sep 4, 2008 10:11:41 AM

Mr. Incredible

LMFAO.....what a cartoon you are.....
I can just imagine your comeback
"thats what you are but what am I?"

Have fun wasting your day. goodbye.

Posted by: hh | Sep 4, 2008 10:12:18 AM

I understand better why Sarah believes that she is up for the VEEP job. One foreign trip to a Chinese restaurant in Ohio made her an expert in foreign affairs. A mayor of a town with more bears than humans made her an expert in job creation and fiscal responsibility. A mom of a pregnant teenager who practiced abstinence made her an expert in family issue. A membership with a party that is pushing for Alaska to seccede made her an expert in political reform. AND no experience at all in issues that matter made her the perfect outsider who is g