Bill owes Obama nothing.

Clinton had a 90 plus approval rating amongst African Americans due to his 8 year record in office - supporting affirmative action, appointing supreme courst justices who supported affirmative action and appointing a cabinet that "looked like America" (i.e.. diverse).

Yet Obama accused Clinton of racism in the days before the SC primary so he could get the African American vote.

Obama race baited - how's that for "change"

surprise, another republican liar.

csh, you should just shut-up. I am black and work in downtown and guess you understand what I mean, Bill Clinton is still loved by the blacks but i must admit we were surprised with some of his comments then but no on is calling him a racist and no one has implied he is a racist though i must say some people on the blogs may have but those are blog comments. We do love Clinton and hope he does a lot for Obama. I will place Clinton in Ohio and Florida if I was Obama. Thats where he is so popular apart from West Virginia and Arkansas and he has the working class background just like Biden but dont know why Biden does not have that appeal.

I hope Obama is buying.

Bill Clinton should tell Obama to stuff it along with his false accusations of racism against the most successful Democratic President in the last half century, a man who spent his entire life fighting against racism. Bill should send obama packing with his tail between his legs. Enough of this lying , hateful, empty suit. Give him the boot Bill!

surprise, another republican liar.

Posted by: bc46 | Sep 7, 2008 4:14:59 PM
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That's all you got boy. Everyone is a lair but you..lol.

We the African-Americans are proud of the Clintons. They have done great jobs for us but in the primary we were surprised of the comments he made. Hillary Clinton later apologized for the remarks he made and we accepted it.
No one is exempted from mistakes as humanbeings and no one is perfect.

We the African-Americans are proud of the Clintons. They have done great jobs for us but in the primary we were surprised of the comments he made. Hillary Clinton later apologized for the remarks he made and we accepted it.
No one is exempted from mistakes as humanbeings and no one is perfect.

I wish I could be a fly in the wall for this lunch.

I will place Clinton in Ohio and Florida if I was Obama. Thats where he is so popular apart from West Virginia and Arkansas and he has the working class background just like Biden but dont know why Biden does not have that appeal.

Posted by: jayjay | Sep 7, 2008 4:15:40 PM

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Nah I do not think Bill is going to play let's make a deal.
Buma does not get to use Buba!
You can not take back the crap Buma, you have disses one to many good people. You pay at the polls.
NOWAY! NOHOW! NOBAMA!

OOOO, OOOOO, Can I come please????

I hope Bill punches Obama in his lying mouth.

We know Obama won't hit back, because he never does anything face to face.

McCain - 48%
The Fraud - 45%

PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 - In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”

- Susan B. Anthony

I.A.T smith; jayjay;
Speak for yourselves, not for the other Blacks who love Bill and Hill and were GROSSLY offended by the race baiting Obama, who conveniently used Blacks to win the primaries and is now pandering big time to whites who can see through his shallow words. He thinks he has the Black vote locked up now so he doesn't need to address their concerns any longer. His actions don't match his rhetoric. His cocky, arrogant, racist self will go down in defeat in November. KICK HIM TO THE CURB Bill!!!

I thought Sarah was already eating his lunch
McCain Palin

Lee Lee, you are not a true follower of hillary. Hillary has been very clear to her followers: To follow me you have to vote obama. You are a republican shill and a liar trying to spread dissent.

It wont' work, and obama will win (and I bet Hillary will get on the supreme court!).

Reading what some African Americans are finally saying about Bill, is very nice to read. Someone said the media played a major role in the division, we (I) knew it from the beginning, the fact that it was used and people bought into it was horrifying for those of us who know the truth about the CLINTONS. What promised to be such a PROUD time for Democrats turned ugly thanks to media. I hope that real unity at some point, could really happen. Joe Biden is a good man, but to use an overused cliche', "He's no Hillary!" Or Bill. See, they are not afraid to talk to ALL of us, any color, just the folks down here, where STATE COLLLEGE education reigns, a lot, thanks to the CLINTONS.

Why is Obama so fake with everyone around him?

What is wrong with you people this is not NEWS! So what I'm AA and a Soldier, this is about who will protect us, who will get our jobs back, since my company i worked for closed since i been away, and let's not talk about my foreclosure, again since i been away fight the wrong war...How so many people and MSM have forgotten about us so fast..Know why, it not about you as usual, you didn't see Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, you doidn't see the path of economy was taking with this war until gas prices got high, you didn't see your house being lost the rates went up and you could not afford it, you still see the surge as a success when they can't even decide who or what will be done with all the money and elections they are to have, you couldn't even see that Georgia attack it's neighbor fist, and that some of the soldier's had to return, to their home land and fight while they face what might or might not have been left of thier lives and family members, again while we are still fighting this war, you did not see this region not just Iraq turned inside out, and not for the good of the USA, but for themselves...You who sit here and worry about who meeting who, well one thing they are, democratic, while is that so hard to believe...Now what i want to know who is going to stand up for us now, thier is VP a heart beat away for Commander In Chief with no experince not even from that Nation Guard she claiming, check the facts.
Well I guess again NOBODY HERE!BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT!

Man, I meant College.

" You are a republican shill and a liar trying to spread dissent."

Watch this "republican shill" registered as a Democrat vote the Republican ticket on Election Day.

My vote will be identified afterwards as a McCain-Democrat vote.

Votes like mine are going to make McCain yore new president.

PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 - In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”

- Susan B. Anthony

irma,
It just wasn't the media, it was the Obama camp playing the race card as a way to alienate Black voters from Hillary, so the messiah could win the votes. He's one of the most divisive politicians I've ever seen. His run for the WH has actually caused a wider rift in race relations than we've ever had in this country, helping to put us back many years.

You must be a stupid republican.. no democrat would write "yore new president"

Duh!

You must be a stupid republican.. no democrat would write "yore new president"

Duh!

leelee - you're an shill, we all can see it (which means your not worth what you are being paid) sit down and shut up.

Palin is nothing but a distraction. Keep focused Dems and we will win

It's funny how all the Obama fanatics like the Clinton's now.

Only republican mouthpieces would state that Obama as president would hurt race relations....

That is the republican way... repeat something stupid enough times until people start to believe it.

Please God, help this country turn course... we need new leadership, not four more years of the same discredited policies!

Obama/Biden 08

Obama asserted in a Colorado Springs speech that the U.S. needs a “civilian national security force” that would be as powerful, strong and well-funded as the half-trillion dollar Army, Marines, Navy and Air Force. In the July 2 speech in Colorado Springs, Obama insisted the U.S. “cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set.”He continued, “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”"Big Brother had nothing on the Obamas,” said IBD. “They plan to herd American youth into government-funded re-education camps where they’ll be brainwashed into thinking America is a racist, oppressive place in need of ’social change.’

"Never" - how blind are you? "....has actually caused a wider rift in race relations than we've ever had in this country, helping to put us back many years."

Really - Really - you think so......

"The most divisive politiciam ever seen?" Really?

How come he has brought together his base, with an amazing opponent (HRC) and reached out to Independents and Republicans (with a mind)???

Just watch the daily show now and then.. you will be amused and educated.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/07/daily-show-john-mccain-reformed-maverick/

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/06/daily-show-2008-mccain-2000-bush/

This is the ugly truth about McCain -- but said in an entertaining way.

KB,
It's called PANIC! Messiah doesn't know what to do now that he's no longer "America's Idol", so he has to run to the Clintons to find out what to do. He's such a joke! Bill needs to send him packing and I sure hope he doesn't waste his time campaigning for this FAKE.

Lol - misspelled "your."

Lame comeback, as expected of a true Obamabot. :D

No cookie for you!

Now, go wipe that kool-aid stain from around your mouth.

PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 - In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”

- Susan B. Anthony

HP Boston, hate to tell you but

America is a racist, oppressive place in need of ’social change.

IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE

The most divisive politician ever seen is probably our current president -- and to think that he ran his 2000 campaign as "uniter not divider".

LeeLee - If you are going to quote Susan B Anthony you should do so to make you case not diminish it. Why would any self respecting woman vote for a republican? - They don't even think you can make a personal choice by yourself. They put up the most anti-woman VP pick they could find in place of a true Woman's rights advocate (Hillary)

Unreported: Hillary Feminists Discuss the Relevance of Palin (and Their Shared Chromosomes)

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=28005

NeverObama, I know that, believe me. He took advantage of the media's attempt to lift him to the clouds, using Republican rhetoric ie (She's divisive, Old Washington Politics) when all along SHE was pushing forth an economic energy plan, promoting JOBS and global awareness, which is where BOBBY KENNEDY JR. was one of her major supporters. All that was lost among the rhetoric. I know and I remember. However, a lot of people weren't aware of how the manipulation was there. I also believed that the very media that built him up, would pull that rug out from under him. Instead, Republican strategy beat us out once again. Not that I was surprised, since Obama sold out to the media and CLINTON haters. Nevertheless, I want to see where the meeting takes us Clinton Democrats. I know the Clintons, good politicians and Democrats that they are, won't diss the very party that dissed them. Hopefully, now that Obama is aware of his mistake, which I feel he also needs to subtly acknowledge at some point with the Clintons, in public; things could turn this INCREDIBLY HISTORICAL, SURPRISE AT EVERY TURN RACE, around ONE MORE TIME! Can you imagine? I hope this isn't another tease from Obama.

And Mccain is using W's old tricks... sure he will unite us??? With Palin? How does he plan to make that happen, the guy has no clue.

You know, if McCain really was truthful about wanting to reach across the aisle, he would have taken Hillary as a VP. Wouldnt' that have been interesting. THEN i might have voted for him. Palin may have two X chromisomes, but she is not remotely an advocate for women.

"leelee - you're an shill, we all can see it (which means your not worth what you are being paid) sit down and shut up”.

Palin is nothing but a distraction. Keep focused Dems and we will win"

I bet you Obamabots wish I (and many others) would shut up. LMAO!!!

Unfortunately for you Bots, I was not put on this earth to please you.

Palin is more than a distraction - you Obamabots can't shut up about her, you know she is more than qualified than your Messiah and so does the rest of America. :D

You don’t need to be bitter or angry or lash out at others about it. You just need to “get over it.”

PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 - In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”

- Susan B. Anthony

Chipo1965,
"How come he has brought together his base, with an amazing opponent (HRC) and reached out to Independents and Republicans (with a mind)???"

What world are you living in? If you really believe he's brought together his base, do we have a surprise for you in November! BTW, I'm not a Republican - just a smart EX-Democrat, now registered IND, who is tired of losing every presidential election since Bill Clinton. Backing the winning team this year.

McCain/Palin 08

I would definitely work hard for an Obama/Clinton Ticket. I would be so inspired that I would hit the streets taking people to vote anything....as usual. I know it sounds crazy, like a dream...but this whole race has been crazy. We would need Obama and Clinton to bring in their sides to the table, discuss the error of our ways and move on together from there. Hillary over Palin any day, any time, always a CLINTON supporter.

I was once a republican. I once liked McCain too. Over the last 8 years I've seen what a mess Bush has made of our country and I swear I will not vote for more of the same McCain.

If there is to be any hope, we need a new direction. Those who think McCain is a new direction are clearly not paying attention to facts.

yeah

I was a strong hillary supporter and, sure, I was mad at Obama. But after hillary's convention speech, I got the message: Yeah, the democrats fight with each other, but the greater enemy is the other side of the aisle. Four more years of McCain would be a disaster for our country, and particularly a disaster for women in our country. (Among other things McCain has sworn to overturn Roe! He has opposed equal pay for equal work. He opposed martin luther king holiday.. and the list goes on).

I'm pretty sure Bill and Barack are on the same page now. Bill doesn't want "Queen Sarah" to take Hillary's place in history.

Obama asserted in a Colorado Springs speech that the U.S. needs a “civilian national security force” that would be as powerful, strong and well-funded as the half-trillion dollar Army, Marines, Navy and Air Force. In the July 2 speech in Colorado Springs, Obama insisted the U.S. “cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set.”He continued, “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”"Big Brother had nothing on the Obamas,” said IBD. “They plan to herd American youth into government-funded re-education camps where they’ll be brainwashed into thinking America is a racist, oppressive place in need of ’social change.

I cannot with good conscience vote for a man, Barack Obama, who has shown poor judgment with the surge, who continually flip flops on crucial issues like drilling, tax cuts, etc.

Hillary would have been the best choice here, but now I'm all for McCain.

I cannot vote for a man, Obama, who has not succeeded at ANYTHING in life.

I am living in the real world, not on the blogosphere. I was a strong Hillary supporter, gave all I could afford to her campaign. I wont lie, I wasnt behind Barrack at first but he is our best chance to change our direction and fix what the Repugs. have broken.

I could not vote for Obama Obama/Clinton HELL YEAH! I know Joe would understand. Being the good, logical DEM that he is. Dream ticket....Hillary over Sarah any day, any time, always a CLINTON supporter.

Chipo – Maybe you need to read that slogan again.

I use it expressly to reflect my dissatisfaction as to how the Democratic Party has shown its total disregard and disrespect for women.

From all indications, the only thing that counts about women is our votes, which seems to be good only to promote men.

This time, when we had a totally electable woman, the DNC promoted and cheated for an unvetted male, with less qualifications, at the woman’s expense and then “selected” him over her.

That was not democratic nor was it right.

We all watched what happened and we won’t forget.

PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 - In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”

- Susan B. Anthony

you know, I just don't believe there are that many hillary-ites who are now going to vote mccain. And in the blogosphere you can pose as anything at all.

Hillary's policies are dead opposite of all of McCain's. Any hillary supporter who has even an iota of brains is going to vote Obama. PLUS Hillary is telling all her supporters to do exactly that.

So frankly, I think you "I supported hillary, but now I'm for McCain" people are just liars.

I hope you are right MARK. I really do. I am not religious, but man I sure am begging someone, anyone to make this happen. Hillary over Sarah any day, any time, ALWAYS a CLINTON SUPPORTER!

I was an avid Obama supporter, believing that he was the first truly non-political politican. Boy was I wrong.

I have switched to John McCain because he says what he means, and means what he say. Unlike both ways Barack.

My mind is still spinning trying to figure out his views on abortion, drilling in preserved areas, elimination of tax cuts for the wealthy, and on and on and on.

Good, I'm glad the two will meet. I think we could really use Bill and Hilloary's support for the last couple months. I think Hillary ought to take Palin to task on her comments. Hillary needs to stand up for herself and for the intelligent women of this country.

I just saw McCain interview on CBS Face The Nation. McCain is not exciting when he makes a speech, but the man is amazing without any prepared text. Obama is the opposite - he talks tough when he makes a speech but when he is without a prepared text or the teleprompter, he stammers and at times stutters his way out of lies and inconsistencies.

Good news. I hope they patch things up.

Obama is actually similar to Bill in many ways. I think he will be just as good a president if not better than Bill.

The GOP must be quaking in their boots. NOBODY is as good a campaigner today as Bill.

Anyone notice that Biden is doing a better job campaigning for McCain than he is campaigning for Obama?

Makes me wonder what the call between McCain and Biden involved? Sounds like Biden wants a place in McCain's cabinet.

Are there any Dems rooting for Obama any more?

Palin is not only anti-abortion (even in cases of rape and incest), she is anti-contraception of any form, she is certainly anti-sex-education.

I can't believe anyone who is concerned about women's rights is even remotely thinking of voting McCain.

I guess I'll have to have five children just like her.

Can't wait for Bill to be on the trail talking about Palin's experience as governor.

Bill will be able to point out the earmarks Palin asked for as mayor.

Bill will be able to point out that hundreds of mayors, senators, and representatives have more constituents than Palin answers to, but yet she has the highest per capita earmarks request of anyone. All this, while Alaska receives millions from big oil.

How dare any so called puma quote Susan B. Anthony as a reason to vote for McCain? He opposes equal work for equal pay, reproductive rights and voted 14 times against raising the minimun wage!!!!

My gosh, how stupid are some of you folks?

Wait, don't answer that...the posts speak for themselves...in dialect.

JustFound,

Actually you're dead wrong. Palin is pro-contraception.

Please do your research, you only lose all credibility by trying to scare people.

Your posting about Obama flip flopping is a far better description of McCain!

CRITICAL issues that McCain has done complete about faces on:

Taxes, Immigration, the War, Torture, Supporting Bush, ...

in short, pretty much everything. I think you are also a liar saying you once supported obama. You are a paid republican shill trying to make it look like there is some reason to like McCain. You are spreading lies. Go home.

No, Hillary needs to bring in the WORKERS. They could care less about all the trivial crud. REALLY. They don't spend anywhere near the time on news like us. I'm telling you, I KNOW. My dad was an Auto Workers Union man with whom I would picket as a child. Their whole world consists of, "What about our jobs? Changing the world, yeah that's nice; anyway, about those jobs." Ignore Palin, go to the people if Hillary is VP, she and BILL will do this. They are AWESOME with the folks. You have to see it to believe it. SELL, SELL, SELL, don't go off on the side. FOCUS.

Just Wondering,

The quotation from Susan B was relevant. You don't need to take it as a call to vote for Republicans, but any self-respecting woman will NOT vote for the party that threw Hillary under the bus with an onslaught of sexist comments.

I hope Bill tell Obama that Hillary and he are taking a long-deserved vacation and if he wants to get elected, Obama should get out, along with his POSSE(the DNC) and do his own campaigning.

The Clintons do not owe "The Uniter" anything.

After all, why does "The Uniter" want two "racists" campaigning for him anyway?

We WON'T forget.

PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 - In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”

- Susan B. Anthony

Most excellent news, especially that the invite came from former Pres. Clinton.

I hope that we see in the coming days an announcement from Sen. Obama that Hillary Clinton (or even Bill himself) will be a major part of Obama's administration.

That will put the final nail in the Republican coffin.

Fooled by McCain,

It's true that politicians change their minds, it's a part of their evolution and the change in the context/state of the world.

However, when you change your mind every other week, that is not "evolution" but "pandering".

Slice it any way you want, Obama has fooled me once and I will not be fooled again.

The reality is that one does not hear much from the Clintons, Bushes, Carter or McCain's and Obama's opponents. The truth of the matter is that no one wants to stake their legacies, or future political careers on either individual untill a clear winner is indicated.

With politicians it is never country first, or even party first, it is and will always be me first.

It is always hype.

JA,

One word answer...bulls**t!

My apologies.. it is true, I checked. Palin supports birth control. She only opposes allowing anyone to be told that it exists... neither by schools or by doctor!. How stupid a position is that?

JA,

No one here will admit to all the nasty things they said about Hillary in the primaries. They will pretend to have always been Hillary supporters.

It's pretty funny Obama needs the Clinton's now.

Just wondering,

That's not an answer, just a refusal to have a real discussion.

Please return when you have a real argument.

As it stands, no self-respecting woman will support a party that blatantly disrespects women.

Are you kidding. McCain is the original Pander-Bear! Every position he has flip flopped on has been to pander to the far right. How many people's real position on Roe changes overnight? No, this is just pandering.

Well, if you do elect your hero McCain, you might be surprised that plenty of his positions are not what you think they are. Go find out what his positions were in 2000 and compare to now.

csh

seems Clinton and Obama get by the bologne...

seems the rest should...the countries at stake and the guys who brought us the last 8 years of slimey hide our mistakes and manipulate fear from the press are doing the same again to bring us 4 more of the hide and seek manipulation

time to get by the bologne.

JustFound,

I haven't read her full comments on the position of contraception, just that I know she advocated teaching it in schools.

You seem to be saying she holds that it should be taught in schools.

If you ask me, the decision should be that of the parent's. Some have religious reasons to be against contraception and so you can't force their children to be taught something they don't agree with.

I admit to everything I said about any candidate...no problems with that.

I didn't look at the racism or sexism from either side. Politics is a rough and tumble game. We keep it in the party and then unite behind the candidate. At least we have in the past. Most of the charges and counter charges were made up by the media and hyped by the same media. As it is continuing to be done...by blogs like this.

This news must p***off obama supporters. They always said they don't need the Clintons!!! Yeah, you do.
Obama took that large overcrowed bus he has to get the Clintons out to help him.

I know Palin supports birth control, but she prefers abstinence. I think that is okay. Churches have a higher degree of success in inluencing kids on relationships over sex. There are kids who do fall through the cracks, but then there are kids who have contraception available too who fall through the cracks. I think Planned Parenthood should advertise then, if that's what we end up with. I am disappointed to find out that BILL reached out to Obama. I guess I got excited a little too quick there.

Who cares what these two racist creeps do? Bill had to point out that Obama was and then Obama had to point out that he was black! Bill Clinton lost his credibility when he lied to the American people. Come to think of it, Obama did the same! The two liars lunch!

We all watched what happened and we won’t forget.
“How dare any so called puma quote Susan B. Anthony as a reason to vote for McCain? He opposes equal work for equal pay, reproductive rights and voted 14 times against raising the minimun wage!!!!
My gosh, how stupid are some of you folks?”
Wait, don't answer that...the posts speak for themselves...in dialect."

We dare, we can and we do.

Speaking of wages, when is Obama going to give his female staffers a raise so they make what his male staffers make?

Crickets chirping …

Weave smoking? Go douse it with some kool-aid. :D

PUMA! McCain/Palin 2008 - In lieu of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.

"No self respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party which ignores her sex.”

- Susan B. Anthony

She opposes anything taught in school except abstenence. She opposes mention of contraception in schools. Opposing teaching of fact is state sponsored ignorance.

On the subject of ignorance, apparently she also approves of teaching creationism in school and doesn't believe in global warming.

The democratic party blatantly demeans women?

Are you serious? That is an argument that won't hold any type of water. Give me details as to how the republican party has become the party that respects women. Then contrast that with the democratic party platform. Write it down and give me details. Maybe you can sway me that the party that wants to declare every maxi-pad as a crime scene is the party that will support my rights as a woman. I will wait.

And my one word answer is not a refusal to discuss, it is a comment about your previous post. It is easily understood by those who profess to enjoy plain talking.

JustFound,

You need to be more careful in your accusations:
1. Once again, Plain supported contraception being taught in sex ed at school. Just google it and you'll find articles.
2. As far as teaching creationism, I haven't looked into her comments in detail there.
3. As far as global warming, she DOUBTS the extent to which people blame humankind for causing global warming. And this skepticism is very popular in the wake of Al Gore's over the top claims.

Don't forget about the book banning and firing anyone who doesn't agree with her.

All self respecting women will abondone the Democratic Party, that appointed an unqualifed male over a qualified woman that won the most votes, by suppressing the delegates of Michigan and Florida,when they knew inthe end they would be given a full vote.

Women need to leave the Democratic Party and vote with their feet and their voices and their ballots in Nov! The Dmeocrats, especially in their most recent attacks on Sarah palin have proven themselves to be the party of mysoginy and hatred towards women.

Supporting women's choices means supporting their CHOICE to have children and a career and not calling them "shrill" when they dare to run for office.

Women for Palin! Blacks left the Republican PArty. WOmen need to do the same to the democrats and stop being used by them. Women who support all choices a woman can make clearly need to vote Republican after this last weeks venom and blatent mysoginy.

I don't have to agree with every position Palin has to vote for her. McCain Palin '08!