To resolve this debacle, Bob Barr and Ron Paul should do some EXTREME fighting. I will vote for the winner.

Bobb Barr looks better all the time - who is his running mate?

Libertarian = fiscally conservative + socially liberal = Republican who enjoys a good spliff once in a while.

If Libertarians would vote AGAINST Republicans once in a while, maybe they'd have some credibility. Their voting record in Congress or any state legislature is a joke. They have always sided with fascism so far.

Libertarian. n. Republican who wants to smoke weed and f*

You mean everyone didn't lay down and die because N.O. got some rain. How very un PC. Ron Paul is the only man for President.

Vetter - Actually libertarians do not side with facism. One definition of fascism is where leaders make policy based on a select few over the general welfare of the people. What we have in this country is corporate fascism where politicians are in bed with businesses. Both the republican and democratic parties are entangled in this mess. What made Paul so great is he readily exposed this incestuous relationship for what it is. Hopefully Barr is doing the same. So far I will probably vote Barr.

Vetter - Check out Paul's voting record. It is unmatched in integrity and principle. Stop spreading disinformation.

Ron Paul would be a great president. Too bad he isn't running. The next best choice in Bob Barr and Wayne Root.

Ron Paul is the man. Made too much sense though. The fact that he wasn't sleeping with lobbyist really hurt his chances.

If Ron Paul isn't a factor, why is one Presidential canidate coming to speak at his rally. (Barr) And why is another trying to bargain with him over access to his voter lists? (McCain) Nah, nevermind the "Rally for the republic". Don't bother covering it MSM. After all it's not like he's gonna determine who gets in office or anything, right John McCain!?! The MSM as well as the two party duopoly is raidly becoming irrellivant to the people's concerns and wishes. Just wait til the midterms in two years. Don't say your weren't informed and don't try to act surpirsed. The Revolution has just begun!

argh - Ron Paul is a factor in a less general sense. McCain know that without Barr and Paul supporters he is dead meat, and probably is dead meat even with Paul's supporters. It is my guess that the republicans are going to lose big this go around and rightfully so especially with the costly Iraq war. It has already been the case in 2006 elections and several republican stronghold elections earlier this year. Even Palin played nice to the Paul supporters in an interview recently. The republicans know they are in trouble, and they know that Paul supporters actually stand for truth and what is right while the current neocon agenda has taken so much from us.

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Woody stated that "If Libertarians would vote AGAINST Republicans once in a while, maybe they'd have some credibility. Their voting record in Congress or any state legislature is a joke. They have always sided with fascism so far." Libertarians believe in removing our armed forces to the homeland to protect our country instead of throwing our weight around the globe, as many Democrats and Republicans have done. Are you saying it is fascism to not start unnecessary wars? Is it fascism to want to erase laws against homosexuality? Is it fascism to want to make medical marijuana legal? If this is your definition of fascism then you are one scary individual.

There have been many elections in which I have voted for the Libertarian if there was one, and in other races on the same election held my nose and voted for the Democrat if no Libertarian was running. As Republicans have become less and less fiscally conservative, this trend has increased. If you just HAVE to blame someone for the near 50/50 vote split in 2000 and the resulting Supreme Court (s)election of our current Clown-in-Chief, you should target the Ralph Nader "independents."

In his paranoia Woody thinks most Libertarians must lean Republican. That's funny because all the paranoid Republicans I know are worried about the Ron Paul voters going to Obama. Libertarians and Ron Paul supporters won't decide this election, but we have discovered that we're not completely alone, and that a long-term political education of the American citizenry is not only possible, but necessary. Part of that education will unfold naturally as the two-party economy fails and folds, as a bloated foreign intrigue military infrastructure collapses in on itself and relegates us to post-Superpower status, and as the disappointments of unfulfilled promises of either candidate accumulate. Part of it will come from modest but sustained efforts to educate people on the U.S. Constitution and the proper and improper roles of government. This education will be slow, incremental, and inevitable. We are patient enough to watch you fail your way to knowledge.

Enjoy your Big Government President, whichever party he comes from. We'll continue enjoying life in spite of government, and without the need for the intense self-victimization mythos so intrinsic to all the pundits of the two largest parties. Keep blaming each other; keep looking to government to solve your problems. I'll still be asking you in 10, 20, or 30 years (as I was asking 30 years ago): How's that working for you?

Civil Libertarian - Awesome comment. You are right, education will be slow paced. We have too many interested in power and access and not in what really matters for the people of this country.

Voting either Libertarian (Barr) or Constitution (Balwin) this fall. Absolutely.

Sorry... Baldwin is the Constitution candidate.

To Civil Libertarian:

I said no such thing, that was Vetter. All I said was Libertarians are GOPers who like to get stoned. Please be a little more careful when attributing commentary to posters.

I will say that was one heck of screed, however. Do you have a manifesto I can look at?

Wow, the most sane and rational blog entry comments I've seen here yet. Go figure...(media thinking...)those radical Libertarians are perhaps not as radical as we thought.

Woody - I have never done drugs, and I am a libertarian. I get the joke though.