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Fact Check: Admiral Mullen and Obama's Iraq Plan
September 26, 2008 10:56 PM
ABC News' Luis Martinez and Kirit Radia Report: Though Sen. Barack Obama pushed back on Republican presidential nominee's assertion during the debate that the country's top military official categorized his Iraq withdrawal plan as "dangerous", during a July interview Admiral Michael Mullen warned that the consequences of removing all U.S. troops by 2010 "could be very dangerous."
"Admiral Mullen suggests that Senator Obama's plan is dangerous," said Sen. John McCain.
"That's not the case," Obama interjected.
In fact, 'Fox News Sunday' host Chris Wallace asked Mullen to put Obama's plan aside and speak to the general consequences of removing all combat troops from Iraq within the next two years.
Mullen responded, ""I think the consequences could be very dangerous in that regard. I'm convinced at this point in time that…making reductions based on conditions on the ground are very important."
Mullen told Wallace commanders on the ground are "very, very adamant about continuing progress, about making decisions based on what's actually happening in the battle space."
Mullen added, "And I think that's just prudent."
September 26, 2008 in McCain, John, Obama, Barack, Vote 2008: Democrats, Vote 2008: Republicans | Permalink | User Comments (47)
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McCain stated it as if it were a fact, "it is dangerous" whereas the direct quote leaves room for the possibility of it not being dangerous ("could be"). Either way, McCain is so focused on defense, that everything else will fall by the wayside. He has said that he doesn't know much about economics and we are suffering an economic strain. I would rather hear that the US ended the war and lives were saved than to hear we will continue it until we win no matter the amount of lives lost. I would rather have someone in office that considers options than someone who flies off the military handle due to emotions. No why, no how, no McCain.
Posted by: Not convinced | Sep 26, 2008 11:18:49 PM
I'm not surprised at what the generals say about leaving Iraq. After all, they are soldiers and soldiers fight wars. They bore quickly when there is no action. It would be quite a world if we didn't have a war going on.
Posted by: william | Sep 26, 2008 11:19:09 PM
WRONG!!
Mullen opposed a "precipitous withdrawal" that was not based on "conditions on the ground."
He did not, and he COULD NOT, comment directly on the specific timeframe proposed by Sen. Obama.
Posted by: Rich Cain | Sep 26, 2008 11:20:06 PM
Yes, I've noticed that about Obama.
He has a VERY hard time admitting when he is mistaken. His feathers get ruffled.
That has been one of the hallmarks of Bush's entire Presidency, his inability to admit when he is wrong.
Guess we can call him O'Bush.
Posted by: Lee | Sep 26, 2008 11:22:23 PM
War is Dangerous period...going in...and coming out. Besides the Military has no say over the War it was the President... Bush who sent them there under false pretense and it is the President who must bring them out.
Posted by: lanawonders | Sep 26, 2008 11:23:47 PM
Look... Obama toyed with McCain by going easy on the geezer, only politely, but pointedly making painfully clear whenever McCain reverted to his flat-out lie plan. For more complete fact checks on the issues and utterances spewed tonight... feel free to check out:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/26/eveningnews/realitycheck/main4481610.shtml
Posted by: KidKAOS | Sep 26, 2008 11:24:52 PM
Obama has never admitted a mistake. Sound familiar?
Posted by: Chris | Sep 26, 2008 11:28:49 PM
Someone needs to tell McCain that the president has to do more than talk about fond memories of Ronald Reagan and plans for Iraq. It's crazy... like the entire purpose of the USA is to fight in Iraq. I'm sorry to be so harsh, but McCain totally came off like a tottering old fool.
Posted by: mgks | Sep 26, 2008 11:30:21 PM
Afghanistan was not a failed state.
Miss Congeniality insults another ally.
Posted by: doug | Sep 26, 2008 11:35:31 PM
I know this has nothing to do with the debate but this is the 80's all over again. A few banks are going to take over the market again, just like it used to be. Just like the republicans!
Posted by: Ant | Sep 26, 2008 11:36:19 PM
Poin is, Obama lied.
Posted by: E. Hutchison. Charlotte, NC U.S.A. | Sep 26, 2008 11:39:38 PM
Obama knows absolutely nothing about foreign policy and what it really takes to be a leader. All he has is handlers telling him what to say. Mccain can talk about the past because he actually HAS DONE something in his political career...its called experience. I hope it is the 80's all over again. Reagan era America was one of the best periods of time in this country's history.
Posted by: Jennifer | Sep 26, 2008 11:44:38 PM
Point is, Obama lied ... again!
Posted by: Francisco Cardenas | Sep 26, 2008 11:47:45 PM
It is hilarious that in today's struggling times within our economy, we have Americans demonstrating racism. If you look at how today's times are hard for all of the middle class to especially the lower income community, whereas our nation is the joke of the global world. Right now, we have the government suggesting a $700billion correction, or solution to the madness of embezzlement, and fraud throughout the nation. We the taxpayers will pay for the mistakes of the corporations at which demonstrated poor work ethic, greed, and white collar crimes as well. Sure, the time to see such actions and or discipline is not the number topic, as everyone rather continue our struggle to gain little, while the rich/wealthy increase their ROI.... Instead, our nation rather pew negative statements in attack towards the first African American Presidential candidate, who might I add reflects change within our corrupt government. Although, times are rough, all the ignorance can see is the color of his skin, and unreasonably foresee McCain as the better candidate; based on race. Now, many of you are stating that different news stations are Obama voters, and you need to stop watching such politic coverage. In other words, you rather vote for an individual, who wants nothing more than what Bush has already done for the last eight years. Now, Palin made herself look stupid! As she could not answer the questions that Katie asked her as being a VP candidate of McCain. How do you not know off the top of your head what McCain has done for the better of the people via congress?? How smart are you? Do you really know what your job entails in the White House? If you look at the research, Palin Alaskans women citizens are not voting for her, as she does not represent the majority of woman in today''s society... Are we looking to change the world for the better of all, as this being the "land of the free", or simply remain ignorant to the diversity within America and build/develop together??
Posted by: Complete | Sep 27, 2008 12:29:34 AM
I SENT THIS LETTER TO MY REPRESENTATIVES IN CONGRESS:
We demand that Congress stops adding earmarks and pork within the contents of the "Bail Out Bill". In addition we do not want a payout to ACORN --- or any organization like ACORN.
We feel this is an egregious abuse of House and the Senate positions in Congress. Enough is enough.
We will no longer continue to vote or support any Representative or Senator who votes for bills with earmarks and pork or allots money to ACORN.
I BELIEVE THE PEOPLE WHO WALKED AWAY WITH TONS OF MONEY SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BAIL OUT.
If the government agrees to pay off mortgages for people who bought homes they could not afford --- then the government needs to pay off ALL mortgages for ALL legal American citizens.
I don't want my tax payments used to pay off somebody else's home!
I PERSONALLY AM AGAINST A WALL STREET BAILOUT BUT AT LEAST FORKING OVER A THIRD OF THE MONEY --- WITH THE REST CONTINGENT ON EFFECTIVENESS --- MAKES SENSE.
I AM TOTALLY AGAINST GIVING 10% TO ORGANIZATIONS LIKE “ACORN”. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BUY HOMES THEY CAN’T AFFORD. DO NOT BAIL THEM OUT.
NORTH CAROLINA TAXPAYER
Posted by: HONORABLE JOHN McCAIN IN 2008 | Sep 27, 2008 12:52:48 AM
All Obama needed was to show stamina, posture and resolve of a commander in chief and he did that. As for the McPalin: America is not going to settle for experience of failed policies and foreign experience based on being able to see Russia from your houses. McPalin lost the opportunity of any game changer and guess what McPalin is going to split immediately after her sucidal debate on Oct. 2.
Posted by: Peter | Sep 27, 2008 3:02:09 AM
Ain't it amazing when McCain is caught in a lie such as this, on national television, and Obama tries to correct him that some people can spin it and claim it was Obama who lied.. really amazing.
Posted by: BillyBob | Sep 27, 2008 3:19:13 AM
So let me get this right.. McCain took the Admirals words out of context (since he was speaking generally in the absence of a plan, like just phased withdrawal on a time line only) and claims it's about Obama. Isn't that slander? I noticed that McCain did a few other sleight of hand tricks tonight that Obama should have been all over, like the tax stuff. I'm supprised there hasn't been more noise over it.
Posted by: Manny | Sep 27, 2008 3:44:12 AM
The Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007 introduced by Obama specifically stated to stop the 2007 troop surge and to remove all combat forces by March 31, 2008.
As McCain pointed out in the debate, if Obama had it his way, our troops would have been out of Iraq by spring of this year without the success of the surge.
Even Newsweek magazine (September 1, 2008) reported that Al Qaeda in Iraq has been strategically defeated.
Iraq's national-security adviser, Mowaffaq al-Rubaie stated that Al Qaeda is definitely defeated tactically. Intelligence agencies intercepted communications between Al Qaeda in Iraq and in Pakistan not to send any more foreign mujahedin to Iraq because they no longer have any territory to defend.
So please, Sen. Obama, just admit that you were wrong instead of now flip-flopping about "withdrawing our troops responsibly." You stated the exact date in the De-Escalation Act you introduced.
Posted by: Donoke9_10 | Sep 27, 2008 4:29:35 AM
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The Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007 introduced by Obama specifically stated to stop the 2007 troop surge and to remove all combat forces by March 31, 2008.
As McCain pointed out in the debate.
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Where did he point it out?
Transcript:
OBAMA: ... And right now, the commanders in Afghanistan, as well as Admiral Mullen, have acknowledged that we don't have enough troops to deal with Afghanistan because we still have more troops in Iraq than we did before the surge.
MCCAIN: Admiral Mullen suggests that Senator Obama's plan is dangerous for America.
OBAMA: That's not the case.
MCCAIN: That's what ...
OBAMA: What he said was a precipitous...
MCCAIN: That's what Admiral Mullen said.
OBAMA: ... withdrawal would be dangerous. He did not say that. That's not true.
MCCAIN: And also General Petraeus said the same thing.
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I think McCain was a little less than honest on that one..
Posted by: PistolPete | Sep 27, 2008 5:27:24 AM
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