I personally do NOT care if Palin's teenage daughter is pregnant. I agree with Obama that that is a family matter and shouldn't be part of our politics.

HOWEVER, the main question is NOT about Palin but about John McCain. Did McCain thoroughly vet Palin? This relevation as well as others (she is part of Alaska fringe group, she was for the bridge to no where before she was against it, she was instrumental in running Ted Stevens 527s, etc).

This is more about McCain's JUDGEMENT on choosing someone who isn't fully vetted AND who has very little experience particularly foreign policy experience.

McCain is 72 years old with many bouts of cancer. It is obvious to me that McCain has FAILED his first presidential duty which is pick a vice president who can start the job as president on day #1.

last line is absolutely right... it goes to show what thugs the republicans really are.

scrutinize the other person beittle mame destroy... dig deeper and get more dirt then you could ever bring up...

but if its the repubs getting the attention its.... off limits, its not a good idea to bring it up...

it shows what values democrats have... we know people are human and F up and we dont want to exploit someone for human faults.

lol its lame, i think we should grow a few pairs, but i must say i do it too.

i think we are hte party of values

Is McCain thinking with the right head?

Face It: They Didn't Vet Her

Earlier I noted Andrea Mitchell's reference to reports that the McCain camp had just sent a team of GOP lawyers up to Alaska to do what I guess you'd call a post-vetting of Sarah Palin. Now George Stephanopoulos appears to have more. George says the McCainers are sending a "rapid response team of about ten operatives that includes lawyers" to do the aforementioned deeper vet. A lot of attention is being given to Gov. Palin's daughter's situation. The much bigger deal is the expanding trooper-gate investigation, the fact that Palin lied in her Friday speech about her purported opposition to the Bridge to Nowhere, her apparent former membership in the secessionist Alaska Independence Party, and more. Individually, you can come to your own judgment about how consequential these stories are. What they show pretty clearly now -- in addition to the news that the McCain campaign is only now sending in a vetting team -- is that John McCain didn't do any serious vetting of Palin before he invited her to join his ticket and, he hopes, become Vice President of the United States.

Fundamentally, of course, this is about John McCain. And the real issue here is what this slapdash decision says about his judgment.

--Josh Marshall

The Palin girl's pregnancy SHOULD be off limits because it IS a private matter. They are handling it the way they see fit and they have the right to do so. What I object to is the fact that they do not want to grant other families the same right. No one, and I mean no one, is going to tell me that I do not have the right to determine what is best for me when it comes to birth control, pregnancy, or family planning. Politicians of all denominations need to stay out of our bedrooms and mind their own business.

I just think that the way the Republicians attack every little thing, all is fair and appropriate in return. Seems their abstinence policy works about as good as the rest of their values. Yeh, right....

Who cares? I would rather have a pregnant 17 year old than an empty suit who is in Rezko's backyard and Jeremiah Wright's pulpit.

"Children are like wet cement. Whatever falls on them makes an impression." Dr. Haim Ginott.
I think Governor Palin should turn down the VP offer and take care of her family.
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Obama is from the Chicago corrupt political machine. That is how he got started and continued with his political career. Some 10 to 15 fellow Chicago friends have been indicted or now seating in jail and Obama is still under investigation for his part in that as well the death of his good homo buddy, Donald Young.
Funny, he says he is with the Party of Values. LOL FOS.
It is the democrats who have their head in the sand or elswhere.

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Why don't you spread your legs for Levi!
Btch!

Family values:

If you are passing judgment on Sarah Palin that her daughter got pregnant, then you are passing the same judgement on Obama's grandmother, who's daughter got pregnant out of wedlock too. Remember the grandmother, who Obama said was one of the smartest people in the world, from whom he still gets advice?

Experience:

YOu Obama people have to STOP with the foreign policy experience accusations, it doesn't fly anymore. Palin has negotiated a pipeline with Canada, bringing more energy to the US than Biden ever negoatiated in his entire career. She also manages the National Guard in Alaska, which is the first ballistic system on guard for the US for any missile attack on the US, and therefore is active 24 hours, the only one of it's kind in the US. For that, she gets special security briefing.

Do NOT attack Palin's foreign policy experience, until you are able to defend Obama's experience, which is ZERO. and yet, Obama is at the top of the ticket. Why does a VP have more foreign policy experience than the Prez? It's absurd.

McCain/Palin 2008

spin spin spin good lord. I for one do not believe McCain knew of this ahead of time and went ahead with the Palin pick over Pawlenty. McCain had no choice but to say he knew about this ahead of time other wise saying he did not know would say something about his decision making ...
that she was not properly vetted and he selected her anyway ... that he made a decision without spending the appropriate amount of due diligence ...

anyone who thinks he knew and went ahead with the Palin pick is lying to themselves ...

thank goodness for the hurricane so that the full limelight of the media was not on the RNC and allowed folks to circle the wagons and decided how they were as a group going to spin this ...

jeesh ....

Mary
Mary, You're off topic but that's what you hypicrites do! You can't add to this conversation so you lash out at Obama. He didn't know up the little slut! Why don't you go to the Christian Conservative website with you bullsht talking points!

spin spin spin good lord. I for one do not believe McCain knew of this ahead of time and went ahead with the Palin pick over Pawlenty. McCain had no choice but to say he knew about this ahead of time other wise saying he did not know would say something about his decision making ...
that she was not properly vetted and he selected her anyway ... that he made a decision without spending the appropriate amount of due diligence ...

anyone who thinks he knew and went ahead with the Palin pick is lying to themselves ...

thank goodness for the hurricane so that the full limelight of the media was not on the RNC and allowed folks to circle the wagons and decided how they were as a group going to spin this ...

jeesh ....

Hello,
That is enough of hypocrisy. The Republican Party has been made of people who wanted to be the clean America that looks down on certain on some communities / people with unprivileged social backgrounds where teen pregnancy is more common . I can't imagine what we would have seen on some right wing networks if that had happened to a democrat candidate. That would have been "bad candidate, the decadence of family values, typical of the liberal bankrupt moral values, blah, blah, blah..."
Who has been putting pins like "Obama baby Mama"? You got that right: the Republican Party.
This is the party who has been preaching abstinence and no sexual education for religious reasons. I do not blame anyone for the pregnancy and certainly the young lady who is going to have a child (and probably a beautiful child, if he/she is as healthy as teen mother). But her politician grand-mother is a blatant failure, a failure in teaching proper sexual education to her daughter, promoting contraception. This mother lives in denial of what is reality. I wonder how much warning and explanation she brought to her daughter. If this type of approach fail with your own child, shouldn't it be time to reconsider this view and recognize that teaching kids sexual education will help them decide when is the right time to have a child???

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Right! Let's see if Bristol makes it to Harvard!

Palin is pimping her daughter with her pro-life BS! Both she and McCain are proponets of teaching abstinence in schools. More of the do as I say, not as I due crap! Total Hypocrits! Suck It!

It's a bit amusing to hear the democrats all posting that she should stay home barefoot and pregnant. Don't bother to post an abc "news" acticle as support. Their whole site now reads like an Obama blog. But you gotta hand it to them, they sure put on an increadable 2 day smear campaign on short notice. If you can say somethink interesting, don't reply.

I remember the RULE that Chelse Clinton not be written up, quoted, even have pictures of her published that were not vetted by the White House. It has been a long standing rule to keep the kids out the public media.

Here it seems that those rules are being tossed aside.

Chelse tried to hide behind controlling the press even this year at her appearances while stumping for her mom. That was laughable. She is an ADULT not a minor and actively engaged in campaigning. This young lady is 17.

Can someone please cite and correct me if I am wrong as to the previous Clinton policy on their child and the media. This should be a rule for EITHER party and all the press or it should be open season. One must choose or admit to bias either from the left or the right.

My 2 cents.

I feel sorry for Palin's daughter being thrust into public spotlight like this. It wasn't her choice, it was her mother's. Good for Obama for taking the high road. But what hypocrits her fundamentalist supporters are to say stay out of this family's affairs! Palin is the one who would stop someone else's daughter from having an abortion, even if it was because of rape. She would stop sex education classes other than abstinence only because it's what SHE believes. (It didn't work out too well for her own daughter, did it?) She and her supporters want to shove their religious and political beliefs down everyone else's throat and condemn those that disagree. I guess they can dish it out but not take it.