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September 09, 2008 9:49 PM

ABC News' Teddy Davis and Rigel Anderson report: Barack Obama came under fire from the McCain campaign on Tuesday for backing state legislation which would have armed public school teachers in Illinois - including those who teach students as young as kindergarten - with sex education standards. 

"Learning about sex before learning to read?" asks the narrator in a new ad from John McCain. "Barack Obama. Wrong on education. Wrong for your family."

Watch it HERE.

The criticism of Obama on sex education stems from his work in the Illinois state senate on legislation which would have taken the state's entire sex education standards, which related to 6th through 12th grade, and applied them to all of K-12. 

The legislation, which was never enacted, included an "opt out" provision for parents.
Sex education for kindergarteners first entered the presidential campaign on July 17, 2007 when Obama discussed his views on the topic while appearing before a Planned Parenthood conference in Washington, D.C.

Watch Video HERE.

Obama was asked his position on sex education and he mimicked an attack that was launched on him in his 2004 Senate campaign by Republican Alan Keyes.

"Barack Obama supports teaching sex education to kindergarteners," said Obama mimicking Keyes' distinctive style of speech. "Which -- I didn't know what to tell him (laughter)."

"But it's the right thing to do," Obama continued, "to provide age-appropriate sex education, science-based sex education in schools."

When Obama's campaign was asked last year by ABC News to explain what kind of sex education Obama considers "age appropriate" for kindergarteners, the Obama campaign pointed to an Oct. 6, 2004 story from the Daily Herald.

"'Nobody's suggesting that kindergartners are going to be getting information about sex in the way that we think about it,'" Obama told the Daily Herald. "'If they ask a teacher 'where do babies come from,' that providing information that the fact is that it's not a stork is probably not an unhealthy thing. Although again, that's going to be determined on a case by case basis by local communities and local school boards.'"

The legislation Obama supported also envisioned teaching kindergarteners about how to recognize "inappropriate touching."

Bill Burton, Obama's national press secretary, responded on Tuesday to McCain's ad with a sharply worded statement.

“It is shameful and downright perverse," said Burton, "for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political attack against a father of two young girls -- a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds. Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn’t define what honor was. Now we know why."

Burton invoked Romney because the former Republican presidential candidate indicated to Planned Parenthood in 2002 that he supports the teaching of "responsible, age-appropriate, factually accurate health and sexuality education, including information about both abstinence and contraception, in public schools."

Prior to Romney's tenure as governor, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts promulgated a set of K-12 goals for the teaching of sex education. Those standards remained in place during Romney's time as governor and he did not challenge them.

Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom nevertheless distinguished the position of the former governor from what Obama backed in Illinois by saying that Romney did not think that any element of sex education should be taught in kindergarten.   

"The issue is whether children in kindergarten should be taught science-based sex education which is what Obama said he favors," Fehrnstrom told ABC News last year. "Gov. Romney does not support that. Let's let our 5-year olds be 5-year olds."

Obama was targeted by McCain on sex ed after launching his own ad on education which attacked McCain for backing private school vouchers and for his one-time support for eliminating the Department of Education.

Watch it: HERE

McCain's ad will air nationally on the Fox News Channel. It will also be seen in certain broadcast television markets in the states of Pennsylvania, Iowa, Missourri, Ohio, Minnesota, and Wisconsin.

Brian Rogers, a McCain spokesman, responded to Burton's attack on the former POW's honor by saying: “The Obama campaign has not disputed any of the facts in our ad, but if they want to question John McCain’s honor and record of service to this country, then that’s a debate we welcome.”

SCRIPT FOR McCAIN's "EDUCATION" TV AD (:30):

ANNCR: Education Week says Obama "hasn't made a significant mark on education".

That he's "elusive" on accountability.

A "staunch defender of the existing public school monopoly".

Obama's one accomplishment?

Legislation to teach "comprehensive sex education" to kindergartners.

Learning about sex before learning to read?

Barack Obama.

Wrong on education. Wrong for your family.

JOHN MCCAIN: I'm John McCain and I approved this message.

View the ad here.

ABC News' Tahman Bradley contributed to this report.

September 9, 2008 in McCain, John, Obama, Barack, Vote 2008: Democrats, Vote 2008: Republicans | Permalink | User Comments (559)

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This is even lower than the Willie Horton ad of years ago. McCain has lost any semblance of integrity he ever had.

So the McCain campaign would prefer that we not arm our innocent children with the means to recognize inappropriate touching? Disgusting.

Posted by: DebM | Sep 9, 2008 10:02:36 PM

Hey , don't you know that sex ed and self defense are not the same thing? Teaching improper touching and what to do about it is self Defense. Teaching about human intercourse is sex Ed. Geese, where did you go to school ? Illinoise?

Posted by: Voted Hillary, Now Voteing McCain | Sep 9, 2008 10:09:29 PM

It gets worse. The Willie Horton ad was distorted and disgusting but had at its core some amount of truth. This ad is entirely false.

It gets worse. The Willie Horton ad was run by a 527. This ad is run directly by the campain.

They have no shame and no honor. They have decided that the votors are stupid.

Posted by: DaveC1 | Sep 9, 2008 10:11:00 PM

McCain has lost my respect. His campaign is dishonorable based on these cruel attacks the last month or so. The new NBC Poll, which is highly relaible has Obama up 47 to 46 with Mccains little bump. The Palin enthusiasim will recede soon and we will be back to the issues that Americans care about. Once this happens within the next week, the campaign for Mccain will be over. There is now way the American people will vote another damn republican in office this time. Enough is enough! I can't wait to see McCain get embarassed at the debates against Obama. Obama will answer questions with substance and McCain is just cognitively slow.

Posted by: Duane | Sep 9, 2008 10:12:07 PM

As a Nurse Practititioner and Pediatric Nurse I just want to say that I'm outraged that Sen Obama is being attacked by the McCain camp on this. It's been suggested in the literature that we talk to young children about predators in an age appropriate way.

My husband, a former Naval Academy Graduate, was going to vote McCain - not anymore. This is the type of swiftboat politics that he said he was against. Again, Maverick - Not anymore. Of course - should we be surprised. He stood by while the same thing was done to kerry - a fellow Vietnam vet.

Posted by: sandra wallace | Sep 9, 2008 10:12:37 PM

This add should be pulled and the McCain campaign should be ashamed. McCain is getting uglier with each day in his campaign style. While I expect some lies and embellishments in a campaign, McCain is taking this to new lows.
This is one Independent female who is NOT impressed with the McCain campaign.
(and I am not a Hillary fan)

Posted by: Sandy | Sep 9, 2008 10:13:58 PM

McCain will say or do anything. Honorable man, dishonorable campaign. Shame on him.

Posted by: lynbrookbrown | Sep 9, 2008 10:14:34 PM

Learning about sex before learning how to read was a great line and criticism. Go McCain-Palin!

Posted by: denn84116 | Sep 9, 2008 10:17:07 PM

Teachers with guns? Obama has to be kidding. Did Obama pack a gun when he was a lecturer in Un. of Chicago?

Posted by: eviee | Sep 9, 2008 10:17:38 PM

Sandra wallace- that's short on your statement. McCain opposed to attacking Kerry on his war records. You don't even get your fact straight there. Just because he's a republican, doesn't what Republican done is what he's done too.

I came to the US from Asia at 7th grade and I didn't know anything about sex. This kind of educatin that obama talks about lead to why our country talk publicly about sex. There's not even a single show on TV doesn't refer to sex, even kids' show on Disney. Disgusting.

Posted by: hannah | Sep 9, 2008 10:18:16 PM

Obama is right!
If Sarah Palin would have talked about sex life and thought her daughter to use condom or do not have sex, than perhaps bristol would not have been pregnant today!
Obama's daughters won't be in that situation!

Posted by: Otis | Sep 9, 2008 10:18:42 PM

Sandra Wallace,

If your husband is going to change his vote because of this, he really needs to get a brain.

Then again, we all know your story is false. You're probably a bitter old single maiden. LOL!!

Posted by: JA | Sep 9, 2008 10:19:19 PM

It's time for parents to stand up to mindless politicians, like Obama, who are more worried about pleasing the media than serving Americans, especially the most vulnerable, and lifting them up. It's time for mothers of the world to stand up for our children and decency and say no to Obama's Marxist dreams. Obama is wrong on sex ed and he is wrong for America. We need strength and common sense in the White House -- we need McCain and Palin until Hillary can come back in 2012.

Posted by: Hillary and McCain-Palin Supporter | Sep 9, 2008 10:19:28 PM

Utilizing lies, deceit and treachery, neither McCain or Palin appear suitable to serve the AMERICAN PEOPLE. McCain's new ad is an EMBARRASSMENT to himself and the GOP! I know republicans who are repelled by it! If his advisers keep this up, insular McCain the Maverick will drive what's left of his cattle herd over a cliff!

McShame McShame

Posted by: Libratine | Sep 9, 2008 10:20:45 PM

Or, you can use the proven failure of abstinence-only programs and end up with a pregnant teenage daughter and a shotgun wedding, like a certain Govenor from Alaska.

Posted by: justhesh | Sep 9, 2008 10:20:47 PM

...disgusting twist of reality. Too bad a legally binding oath can not be applied to these ads.

Posted by: WhereDoesItEnd | Sep 9, 2008 10:21:12 PM

Obama has no experience to lead this country. Sarah at leat was a mayoe and now governer of a stae. She makes executive decisions and is well appreciated by thye state.
What Obama did for USA?
He is a good speaker, no doubt, and he is just like ordinary politicians who speaks something and do differently in practice. Its a pitty that he started worryining about a VP candidate and not the Presidential candidate.
THis is a big eye opener for the common people of this great country,

Posted by: shivaglal | Sep 9, 2008 10:21:27 PM

McCain, Palin and Rove are all pigs, with or without lipstick..

Posted by: jen | Sep 9, 2008 10:21:35 PM

Vote for LIARS you can believe in! MaCain/Palin. The future to nowhere!

Posted by: Jim | Sep 9, 2008 10:21:37 PM

I wonder what happened to Michelle Obama? We need Michelle Obama now!
She was taking in Hillary so good during the primaries!
Come on Michelle Obama, get out there and campaign for us!

Posted by: Where is Michelle obama? | Sep 9, 2008 10:22:22 PM

Teachers should not be telling Kindergarten kids where babies come from, even if they ask. The appropriate response would be "Ask your parents." As a parent, if I did not want my child to be presented with the graphic facts before I deemed it appropriate, I would be VERY angry. The teacher is NOT the parent & needs to remember that.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | Sep 9, 2008 10:23:05 PM

I have to say, that ad is f*cking twisted. And so is this article. Why can't you "fact check" this a little better? Framing this perverse attack against Obama as credible -- is propaganda, not journalism.

Posted by: eric | Sep 9, 2008 10:23:14 PM

Sex Ed is Not The Same As Teaching about Predators. It's In The Details Folks! Read What Is Printed!!! McCain Said Kindergarten is Too Young For SEX - ED. NOT TOO YOUNG FOR SELF DEFENSE IN KNOWLEDGE And DEED!!! No One Has The Right To Touch Your Body No matter How Old You Are - Not For Any Reason, sex Or Otherwise.....That Is What Is Apporiate For small Children !!! Obama makes wrong choices for his family and ours too! Vote McCain!!!!!

Posted by: Voteing McCain | Sep 9, 2008 10:23:29 PM

Why in the world would McSame think it would be wrong for 5 & 6 yr olds to know the correct anatomical name of their body parts? You sure are O L D McSame. And this from the party that supports teen marriage. What a joke!

Posted by: Lori | Sep 9, 2008 10:25:36 PM

Hey where is Michelle Obama?
I agree, she was taking hard on Hillary! Michelle Obama was one of the strongest campaigner for barrack. We want her back on the campaign trail , especially to connect with women!

Posted by: Paddt | Sep 9, 2008 10:25:51 PM

ABCs decision to write the headline in this way is another example of their battle to become the next FOX News.

Posted by: john | Sep 9, 2008 10:27:45 PM

You'd expect Obama to be low class? Remember it was Obama that said Palin's family was off limits to the media, despite the fact that the Republicans had a media release of the info.
It was McSame that was making ugly jokes about Chelsea Clinton while she was a teen in the White House. I'd call that classless.

Posted by: Lori | Sep 9, 2008 10:28:19 PM

I'll tell ya, there is nothing this slime machine won't do.
Palin, even today, kept lying about her *bridge to nowhere* flip.
And now this???
This country is seriously ill, that people continue to support this crap.

Posted by: jon | Sep 9, 2008 10:29:29 PM

I agree,
Michelle Obama is called for the campaign trail immediately!

Posted by: Helen | Sep 9, 2008 10:29:46 PM

The viscious, negative, UN-CHRISTIAN things that are coming out of the McCain camp seem to have Karl Rove written all over them to me. Why do the Republicans insist on dragging this election into the mud? Oh yeah...they wouldn't want us to see that they can't compete on the actual issues that affect Americans on a daily basis! I think Jesus would be ashamed of many of the comments coming out of McCain/Palin and so many of their supporters.

Posted by: sarahpie | Sep 9, 2008 10:29:56 PM

McCain/Palin will ride to victory in November. Obama's sorry elitist leftist agenda is being exposed for what it is -- an attack on the American family's integrity and autonomy. As a father of a 3 and 6 year old, I am firmly of the belief that sex ed can wait. I was indoctrinated with graphic sex ed in the 4th grade in a great socialist left coast public school system -- I am ashamed that I live in a society that thinks it is okay to rain down filth children on the public dime and call it "education". Let's try reading, writing and math and let sex not burden the minds of our children. Obama should be ashamed of himself for attempting to sacrifice common sense and common decency at the alter of vain and amoral "science".

Posted by: TC | Sep 9, 2008 10:29:59 PM

John McSame is a sleazy sleazy disgusting man. He has NO HONOR. I once respected that jerk. UNBELIEVABLE!

Posted by: Eraticus | Sep 9, 2008 10:30:10 PM

When McCain was having his affairs was that more abstinence or did he use a condom? When he told his Chelsea joke was that showing his respect for women? Then there is the remark about his current wife ...

Posted by: Nelly | Sep 9, 2008 10:31:05 PM

Otis, How do you know that Gov. Palin did not tell her daughter about the facts of life and how to not get pregnant? Hasn't your children just not obeyed the counsel you gave them? I'm sure they haven't done everything you suggested!
I have 6 kids and I can tell you that they've been told alot of things and don't always do it.

Posted by: Dave | Sep 9, 2008 10:31:09 PM

It is not the school's job to tell kids where babies come from. Come on, parents...teach your kids these things. Sex education needs to come from parents, not schools.

Posted by: dk | Sep 9, 2008 10:32:29 PM

Why is OBAMA sinking low? One second he is abusing Sarah Palin as a Pig with lipstick & other count blasting McCain's patrotism & no bills no record but preach sex education to kindergarteners. SIck for America.. Change OBAMA Change .. Give away your nomination to HIllary and run..

Posted by: George Goodman | Sep 9, 2008 10:32:30 PM

Lori!
You've gotta be kidding me?
Obama is the one surfaced all the dirty information about Palin and her daughterthan sure he went on and siad he did not do it and families should be off limits!
And we believed it?
sure we are all so stupid!

Posted by: Sam | Sep 9, 2008 10:32:32 PM

He called her a pig. The pig is his devil. He won't eat ham for Easter. Don't vote in the sleeper cell.

Posted by: MN nice | Sep 9, 2008 10:33:34 PM

Voted Hillary, Now Voteing McCain:

Is there something wrong with age-appropriate sex-ed? Especially if you as a parent are given the option to opt-out your child?

*************

On a tangent, I do not understand the crowd who is both "pro-life" (anti-choice) and pro-abstinence only. Talk about setting kids up to fail.

Posted by: sigh | Sep 9, 2008 10:33:40 PM

The Republicans totally took this out of context didn't they? Sadly, the heading on this article will fuel the lies b/c most people don't read beyond the heading. The true title SHOULD be "McCain Distorts Truth About Obama's Sex Ed Plan in Schools". I have a 5 year old and a baby. My 5 year old knows that the baby came out of momma and we have never talked about storks. We didn't tell her about sex but we did tell her that when a man and woman love each other and get married they have a family sometimes. THAT is exactly the type of crazy sex ed Obama wants taught - whoppie. God forbid. But hey, instead we can be like Palin - who teaches abstinence and has a 17 year old pregnant daughter...and she herself had a baby 8 months after marrying Todd (or shall I say, First Dude).

Posted by: allie | Sep 9, 2008 10:33:43 PM

Celebutante Sarah Palin = Paris Hilton + 20 years

Posted by: Ed from MA | Sep 9, 2008 10:33:59 PM

So now ABC along with CNN stand alone in the pocket of McCain's campaign. No other news organizations took the bait. It will bite ABC where it hurts. Palin's "interview" on ABC will be a selection of softball questions that will not satisfy the American public.

We know that ABC made a deal with the McCain campaign out of desperation for ratings. Good luck on that, ABC

Posted by: JudiNV | Sep 9, 2008 10:35:24 PM

Enough ABC you are turning into a quack news station, reporting on this as if you think Obama wanted 5 year olds to learn about how to have sex. When is our press going to live up to the great press of the past who new the huge responsiblility they were given in their part of this democracy. These cheep shots and your going over them is a testimony to the low level our press has sunk to. When are you going to do your job. This is why I am no longer watching ABC News or any TV news. I would rather watch the Comedy Channel.

Posted by: Cindy | Sep 9, 2008 10:35:45 PM

I have to admit, I do not think that Obama should go after palin because he is running for a different type of politician!
But I totally agree, Michelle Obama should go out there and connect with women!
especially with pro-choice women!

Posted by: Tom | Sep 9, 2008 10:36:31 PM

I agree with Obama- in this world our kids need to know a good touch from a bad touch. they need to be taught right from wrong. The way McCain is running this campaign is a downright shame and to believe that our country will stand for it is even worse. I pray we all wake up and examine the issues or lact of that are being presented by the canduidate. THis smearing from the McCain campaign is embrassing do these people realize how other countries are looking at us, I for one am not impressed with John McCains choice of VP and to me it shows a calculated move just to win the election-- it certainly was not a choice that put Country first--She has not spoken on her own, she has only repeated speeches in public--will someone please tell McCain /this is not a game its our lives he's playing with

Posted by: I Count | Sep 9, 2008 10:36:37 PM

It might be useful to take an unemotional review of what the article says in getting to the root problem with what Obama is proposing... k-12 sex ed is the subject. He supported passage of this legislation at the State level in Illinois, and followed it with a stipulation that it would need to be implemented "on a case by case basis..." with local school boards establishing policy. THIS IS DANGEROUS! When you've got higher jurisdictions writing laws for lower municipalities- you grow government, lay the ground work for exponential (sorry for the big words...I'll type slowly and loudly...) problems in not only interpreting what the law should be, but how to implement it.

You'd get one school district defining sex ed one way, and another school or district defining it in quite another. So much for standards in education. Sure, you can say that this is the case, state by state today--- however, not in local neighborhoods. This is yet another example of Obama's attempt to have a higher level of government medling in a lower one... And you want to elect this guy to run our country? Get real.

Posted by: NO-bama | Sep 9, 2008 10:36:49 PM

and the McSame /Falin people had the nerve to complain about Sen Bidens statement earlier today on stem ceel research you have go to be kidding me like I said earlier GOP politics are do as I say not as I do we can trot out any lie, disproven statement, non factual fact there is but don't you dare use the truth on us you can lie about us but we can't be bothered by the truth either way .

Posted by: richardcranium1 | Sep 9, 2008 10:37:20 PM

Stemcell not ceel

Posted by: richardcranium1 | Sep 9, 2008 10:38:10 PM

Maybe if Palin's daughter had taken Sex Ed she wouldn't be KNOCKED UP at 17.

KINDA OBVIOUS STUFF IN 2008, HUH?

Posted by: Ed from MA | Sep 9, 2008 10:38:10 PM

I am all for teaching age appropriate sex education but judging by the people on this board, maybe we should stick to teaching the basics in school.....like SPELLING!

Posted by: Kim | Sep 9, 2008 10:38:22 PM

Wow, now all the trolls are here at Sellout ABC, now that Fox has become much more fair in its reporting. The trolls have found a new home.

Posted by: JudiNV | Sep 9, 2008 10:38:23 PM

The polls are pretty much set in stone
as the campaigning comes to a close.
They are no help because there is a margin
of error with both candidates.
America has very few voters who will
swing at this time in the election process.
Those who do swing are either bipolar,
ill advised or just don't give a damn
who gets in. Scary that the next president
will be decided by people with these traits.
What a country!

Posted by: spacerook1 | Sep 9, 2008 10:38:27 PM

What's worse, a slimy inaccurate election ad - OR a network that has no vetting process itself and/or conscience. Not Sure ABC News but your at the bottom of the heap for scuzz. Gotta love the US of A. Real good journalism guys. I think they call this Yellow Journalism at one point in US history.

Posted by: Gerry | Sep 9, 2008 10:39:02 PM

Well gee, if Sarah Palin's kids had had adquate sex education information, maybe the daughter would not be pregnant, again. The Republicans fear sex so much they want to outlaw it for everyone except themselves. People like Larry Craig and Mark Foley and David Vitters etc. Republicans are hypocrites

Posted by: nick ames | Sep 9, 2008 10:40:45 PM


The McCain "dictatorship" shames America. If you let them dictate what you should think, you get what you deserve.
This is all serving to re-energize the Obama base. Most intelligent people cannot stomach the nazi-like intimidation by McCain's creepy henchmen. It is frightening that some Americans will follow lockstep when McCain's creeps TELL THEM WHAT TO THINK. BE SCARED. If you want to hand your kids over to the religious zealots, go ahead.
or, for just once in your lives, Repubs, try THINKING.

Posted by: jennie | Sep 9, 2008 10:40:48 PM

Teaching sex education to Kindergartners does not mean that you will tell them how to have sex. There are many ways to explain to a child about sex. I remember when I was younger, I was told that women get pregnant because they eat a lot and I believe it until it become clear in high school after an anatomy/sex eduaction class (I believe palin's daughter should have learn that earlier).
The McCain Campaign is trying to distract the American public from the main issues. Very soon, they will criticize the other camp for blaming palin for not wearing pants like Hillary.

Posted by: pompidou | Sep 9, 2008 10:41:06 PM

My,my. Now that the momentum has turned against him, watch the media turn on him. Fair weather friends, those media.

Posted by: garand911 | Sep 9, 2008 10:42:02 PM

You conservatives are so freeking ignorant. It is IMPERATIVE that 5 year olds learn their body parts and when to say no to unwanted touch. That is age appropriate sex education for 5 year olds and what Obama is talking about!Sexual abuse is more common than physical abuse, affecting 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 4 boys before the age of 18. If we ignore the FACTS and retreat into our closed minded denial shell, kids will continue to be abused.

Posted by: Marc | Sep 9, 2008 10:42:10 PM

Children should be taught what Improper Touching is. Is McSame afraid that his Republicans will go to prison more than they do now?

Posted by: txpatriot4us | Sep 9, 2008 10:42:13 PM

The republicans are the party in power and he has been there the whole time.

Don't vote for McCains Jedi mind trick of "change".

Posted by: truth serum | Sep 9, 2008 10:42:13 PM

Fox Fair who are you kidding fair and Unbalanced is more like it

Posted by: richardcranium1 | Sep 9, 2008 10:42:39 PM

McCain lost his integrity? So why did Obama say you can put lipstick on a pig. Boy I hope people do not think he was referring to Palin's remark about soccer mom's. Because if they did, they would not find it as humorous as the audience did when he paused, waiting audience to make the connection and laugh riotiously before he delivered the punch line.

Posted by: Deborah from Oklahoma | Sep 9, 2008 10:42:54 PM

No wonder McCain-Palin have no policies because they are spending so much of their time with these low down nasty untrue ads against Obama. I was an undecided voter but I have made up my mind to vote for Obama because I am tired of this divisive politics. McCain has lost my vote. I want some substance!!!!!!

Posted by: Cocomo | Sep 9, 2008 10:43:57 PM

I suppose after chanting:"drill baby,drill..." the McCain campaign should have a new slogan: F**** baby, F*****..." since they oppose sex education

Posted by: piston | Sep 9, 2008 10:44:22 PM

I think the key word is age-appropiate. Curiosity and children don't mix. Speculating with other children about "so and so's Mom has a baby in her tummy" They should know something. No matter how cute the cabbage patch story is. It is stupid to tell a child that when they really want to know how and why she has a baby in her tummy. Kids worry and come to wrong guesses if left to figure it out these things on their own. Besides even little kids need to know appropiate and non-appropiate "things".

Posted by: AnnD52 | Sep 9, 2008 10:45:08 PM

http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/

First, let me get this out. I am totally against ANY form of abuse to any human being. And I believe anyone who murders another human being should be in prison for the rest of their life (until they die). I do not believe in the death penalty for anyone. Also, I believe that once a person has been in and out of prison and has served their probation and parole, done everything required of them, and what was signed on the "contract" when they took the plea, none of this should be required of them, none of it. The state cannot tear up a contract like this, which they are basically doing, it's unconstitutional. Many people, if they had known they would be faced with all this, they would have NOT taken a plea deal. And the courts are very aware of this and this is why they made it retroactive; thus violating ex-post facto laws! They should be allowed to get on with their life as if nothing happened. I'm not saying for it to be removed from their record, but, the crime should be removed from public view and background checks, they should not have any more restrictions, shaming, etc. If they commit another crime, then they face a lot more punishment, like everything else is treated.

When are we going to move away from being "TOUGH ON CRIME" and move to being "SMART ON CRIME?" If you locked every single sex offender up, at this moment, or killed every one of them, do you think the problem is over? No, more will follow.

I've heard many people say "If these laws protect one child, then they are worth it!" And at the same time, if millions are tortured, it's ok. Offenders are losing their homes, jobs, families, and children and cannot find new jobs or homes due to the insanity of these laws. The families are also made into outcasts for associating with or being related to an ex-offender and their own children are harassed and bullied at schools due to a family member being an ex-offender.

I know these laws are a sensitive issue, but as all issues, they must be discussed and we must come up with a valid solution that will work. The laws, as they exist now, DO NOT WORK! People are always saying they cause unintended consequences. These laws have been on the books for years now, so nothing is unintended anymore. When are we going to set aside fear, hate, rage and anger and come up with a real solution? History has proven that these feelings NEVER get good laws passed but only create bad ones that punish and torture many people. These knee-jerk reactions to a slim number of high-profile crimes, like Adam Walsh and Jessica Lunsford, MUST STOP!

When an ex-offender is forced to move from his/her home, thus having to sell it, cannot find another home within the law due to the residency "buffer" zones, get fired from their jobs due to being on the registry, cannot find a new job due to being on the registry, their husband/wife lose their jobs due to a significant other being on the registry, their children lose their friends and are harassed and bullied in school due to a family member being on the registry, thus destroying the children's lives, ex-offenders are forced into homelessness and to live under bridges, harassed by police, neighbors and probation/parole officers, have to wear "I'm a sex offender T-shirt" or have a neon green license plate on ALL their cars, have "sex offender" on their drivers license and forced to renew their licenses every year, forced from shelters during tornadoes or hurricanes, cannot give blood at some places due to being discriminated against for being on the sex offender registry, denied housing due to being on the registry, signs placed in their yards inviting harassment and ridicule from the neighbors, forced to move when the neighbors start picketing outside the ex-offenders home, the list is endless.

I THINK THIS IS CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT, BEYOND THE EXTREME!

Posted by: SexOffenderIssues | Sep 9, 2008 10:45:29 PM

This is absolutely so base, so profane and extreme that it brings enormous shame on McCain. That he would even suggest so patently untrue distortion is further proof that, rather than an agent of change, he has fully and completely adopted the disgusting politics of the Bush Regime.

What McClain claims is a bold-faced lie. Is he suggesting that any discussion of sex education in the schools should be met with extremist rhetoric? That's no change, that's how republicans have been dividing America for 30 years. It has too stop. What happened to McCain 2000? When The Bushies claimed (falsely) that he fathered a mixed race child in order to smear him in the primaries, what was the lesson he learned?

Shame on John McCain!

Posted by: thebob.bob | Sep 9, 2008 10:45:49 PM

Do you really believe the her pregnant daughter has not had any sex education? At 17 years old her parents have not had dialogue about this? I would have a hard time believing that to be true. Striving for absitence is not the same as not knowing what sex is. I also don't see how that automatically means that Sarah Palin can't be Vice President. Am I the only one failing to see how this is relevant? Aren't there bigger issues?

Posted by: dk | Sep 9, 2008 10:46:26 PM

"Lipstick on a pig" is a well known expression and doesnt' mean that the person is a pig. Everyone knows that and people are just jumping on Obama because they can make an issue about it.

Saying "Chelsea clinton is ugly" like McCain did is not just a well known expression.

Posted by: Pig | Sep 9, 2008 10:46:42 PM

I'm sorry but this is hilarious! McCain is now beating Obama in just about every poll and you have these desperate Obama supporters saying what a bad choice she was, too funny. You can see the nervousness overtake them, you see it in the desperate name calling of their childish posts, the more you attack more their numbers go up. What a delicious twist this turned out to be, don't you think?

Posted by: jill | Sep 9, 2008 10:46:49 PM

you are dead on marc it is a shame the repervicans see it through their sick eyes and minds

Posted by: richardcranium1 | Sep 9, 2008 10:47:01 PM

The problem is that McCain's slimey ad will appeal tremendously to his base. Most sensible people now those ignoramuses can't think critically and are about as bright as a box of rifle ammunition. Did you see all that yee hawing and woo hooing at the RNC? Gosh I bet if they had rifles and pistols in the air they would've shot them in the air in celebration of Palin's and McCain's speech LOL. They will see this ad and immediately identify self-righteously with it. The sad thing is McCain's campaign is smarter than their base and knows it, so they send out trash like this with the knowledge that they are manipulating their base and exploiting values which they themselves probably don't even hold.

Posted by: Manipulators | Sep 9, 2008 10:47:10 PM

Hey, Hillary and McCain-Palin Supporter,
if you haven't heard the latest. Hillary
supports Obama! Either you are confused,
ill informed or just another mole. If
Hillary were on the ticket, this is exactly
what she would be using in her agenda,
so please enlighten us with your rational.

Posted by: spacerook1 | Sep 9, 2008 10:47:28 PM

Dave, you are correct. Kids, like adults, have minds of their own. The way the media tried to destroy Governor Palin for the actions of her teenage daughter is atrocious. Why did they cover up John Edwards' affair for so long but blast Sarah Palin on this? Media bias is alive and well. It's nice that they pick up on Obama's foibles and misjudgments on occasion.

I'm yet to hear of anything Gov. Palin has done that is offensive. Gov. Palin has been slandered and beaten over the head continually because she dares to take on the "One". I'm still waiting to hear of something she has done that rivals Obama's legion of personal judgment errors and actions contrary to the national interest of the United States.

Posted by: TC | Sep 9, 2008 10:47:58 PM

Agreed. This is pretty stupid ABC. Stopped watching after the democratic primary "debates", in which Gibson and Stephanopoulos questioned Obama's "patriotism", whether or not he "loves America", and about the "flag pins" for what? Half an hour? Please. You're like FoxNews-Lite.

Posted by: Enough | Sep 9, 2008 10:48:30 PM

As a mom, I would not want their school to teach them about sex and sex practices in kindergarten or grade school. Nor would I want them to be taught that homosexuals activities are normal. Teaching them in the higher grades would be ok.
I see Obama with the attitude that anything goes and is ok in human behavior for adults. How sad, even indecent.

Posted by: Mai | Sep 9, 2008 10:50:26 PM

John McCain is Mr. Magoo.
He is gooey pathetic little weenie.

Posted by: euro.guy | Sep 9, 2008 10:52:31 PM

I don't know about you, but I had Sex Ed in High School, and avoided knocking up my girlfriend as a result.

But then again, maybe Sarah Palin's daughter is as dumb as her mom - education just don't take with some folk.

She can't even manage her own house - I should let her run my country?

COUNTRY FIRST!! OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!!

Posted by: Ed from MA | Sep 9, 2008 10:53:25 PM

space cadet, I don't care who Hillary is supporting. Although I donated to, and volunteered for, her campaign, I don't have to blindly follow her. Obama lacks something that Hillary and McCain/Palin have in common -- common sense. I look for leaders who will protect America, stand up for our families and who are in touch with reality. Obama fails on all three counts.

BTW, just because I support Hillary does not mean that I support everything she stands for or does. I don't believe in everything McCain and Palin say or do either. Obama still sounds and acts like an empty suit to me.

Posted by: Hillary and McCain-Palin Supporter | Sep 9, 2008 10:54:26 PM

republican citizens:
Xerox, IBM, Exxon---all major corporations in the world. If you owned stock and you got a notice that this company would now be run by
1. a sickly 72-year man and
2. a former pageant queen with 18 months experience,
would you be thrilled? Would you defend them to the end? Would you be proud that they are handling your retirement, your security, your family's well-being?

Didn't think so. So why entrust your country and your family's future to those two?
Are our companies more important than our oountry?