I would much rather privitization than socialism.

Hk In LA - Then you're an idiot if you mean that Wall street should run amok without any checks and balances (i.e. government regulators - - referees!)

privatization through the same idiot institutions that have mucked things up so badly is not an improvement

I disagree with HK - privitization only benefits the wealthiest 1%, and it puts the rest of us on the dole paying for these executives' golden parachutes.

We cannot save privitisation because of these self centered republicans. Stocks are plunging worldwide as we speak and China is lauging..

Sorry Sen. Obama you may have to resign since you are NOT citizen of the US. By our constitution, you can NOT hold any US Gov't office.

Since you are a CONSTUTIONAL LAWYER, you should KNOW that.

Please provide your proof of US Citizenship. I will GLADLY show you MINE.

All the SLICK talks will NOT help you if the American FOUND out the truth about you. BTW, we also want to know about your wife position on "WHITEY"

You people know what Oodles of Noodles are?

...well you're about to find out.

Voter In America. You are not a citizen of America. What is your real name. Where were you born?

John McCain was not even born on US soil.

Obama is playing with a very worn out deck. Even when he re-shuffles it is the same deck that he brought with him from Chicago.

Pelosi just tried a political card today and drew a 2 against the Ace the Republicans now hold. 94 Dems thought giving the banks a credit bailout was not such a good idea.

Wouldn't you like the government to pick up all your dedt. Try a bill that would that! Or maybe "earmark" that for the voters!

mccain wants to gamble with any big decision because all he knows is rolling the dice

THIS mess started with the DEREGULATION ACT in the Carter administration that everyone without income or credit should be allowed to own a home, and then the government run Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were to insure these lousy loans! The Republicans tried to regulate this crisis in 2005 and the Democrats blocked the bill! Use to be to buy a home you needed three things: ten percent down, a stable work history, and a stable credit history and not spending more of your income than what you bring in! SOMEHOW this changed with this “housing act” and then you had people who could not afford to rent getting into mortgages with ARM’s…..NOW we are to bail out the investors who made these bad loans? AND Pelosi wants it to have all these federal earmarks for MORE unnecessary funding of risky mortgages? SHE is an IDIOT!

THIS mess started with the DEREGULATION ACT in the Carter administration that everyone without income or credit should be allowed to own a home, and then the government run Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were to insure these lousy loans! The Republicans tried to regulate this crisis in 2005 and the Democrats blocked the bill! Use to be to buy a home you needed three things: ten percent down, a stable work history, and a stable credit history and not spending more of your income than what you bring in! SOMEHOW this changed with this “housing act” and then you had people who could not afford to rent getting into mortgages with ARM’s…..NOW we are to bail out the investors who made these bad loans? AND Pelosi wants it to have all these federal earmarks for MORE unnecessary funding of risky mortgages? SHE is an IDIOT!

Quote: "It is safe to say the gambling metaphors are not about to stop any time soon."

And that's ok, cause that's just what rightfully describes McShame, he likes to gamble and shift positions according to polls. McInsane has been a promotor of deregulation in Washington his whole career and now he wants to act like he's never been a deregulator when we have videos of him, quote:"I'm always for less regulation...".

So Obama needs to keep repeating this line over and over so that people really understand what's at stake in this election...

They think that Obama being a regular in a poker game is a bad thing? To me, it makes him sound like an average guy.

As for SS privatization, we would have millions of people who would be losing 90% of their benefits as we speak. Sometimes you have to protect people from themselves and that is part of government's role.

Voter In America

Can't you come up with something else? It's clear you hate, but those are all are old lies

Poor Voter in America needs to go to FactCheck.org and do what they advise all of those who insist that Obama is not an American citizen: put on your shiny tinfoil hat and sit quietly in the corner.

Did you hear that McCain sent an e-mail taking credit for the passage of the bailout just before it failed? He said he got the Republicans to vote for it. Well, maybe it got one-third to support their president.

Look what happens when the Government gets their hands in places where it does not belong. Social security.. broke, medicare ...broke, give money to all, even those who could not float a loan for a bottle of pop via, fredie and fannie...now broke. And Dems want a man who has shaken the government money tree hard and often everytime he could.
Good luck with that.

Barack couldn't bring 40% of his fellow democrats to the table on this bill. That's some leader alright....NOT!

PUMA!

"Roll the Dice" Isn't this one of the Bill Clinton lines that offended Obama so mcuh?

yeah, privatization would be great! Just think, if i had been able to invest my Social Security into the stock market I'd be.....oh yeah...BROKE!!!

Voter In America, the Obama campaign has released a copy of his birth certificate, clearly showing his birth in Oahu, Hawaii.

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

Have you noticed that the government doesn't privatize defense monies or retirement funds for government officials?

To james,

Judging by the way you write. I must assumed that you are "influenced" by Bristish writing. So you are DEFINITELY NOT an American citizen for sure.

Obviously, you do not know our laws governing children of parents in US military.

Do you know our regulations regarding the IMMIGRATION LAWS?

McCain's parents (BOTH) are American Citizen and were older than 18 when McCain was born. That made him a NATURAL born citizen, you MORON!

Whereas Obama parents (different citizenships) and she was NOT 19 when Obama was born (location still TBD, Kenya?) she MOVED with her second husband, and therefore negated any US Citizenship for Obama.

The so-called birth certificate was for his sister and the dates on it are very troubling.

I have voted since Nixon, so don't tell me that I am NOT.

Just for my curiosity, how much did Obama campaign pay you to be out on the net spreading these lies?

Obama = Pelosi's "Puppet"!

For some time now, John McCain has tried to equate himself with country first. Over and over again, his moves and decisions have shown just the opposite. Today he started trying a new line: country first? Or Obama first?

Well, Senator McCain, if country first means choosing McCain the ultimate gambler, by all means, Obama first.

If the Bailout bill had included a provision for the US Government to zero out each of our personal dedt along with the improperly managed financial institutions dedt the bill would have been supported by the voters.

But who pays for that? We get to pay for mismanagement of others, but who pays for our personal financial errors. NO ONE but US.

And that's who should take care of this mess, the very people who got themselves there. Obama and the Dems played the cards that got us here, while McCain and Bush were yelling, "Don't take that bet!"

The Democrats like to gamble because they are using our money to do it. "James", perhaps can provide some factual insight into this for us all.

"anotherview" says that Pelosi drew a 2 against the Republicans' Ace. I don't see it.

The Republicans have a presidential candidate that strode into Washington last week promising to put together a bi-partisan plan as a resolution to a crisis that he had only admitted to over the prior week. He failed - and looks weak.

Furthermore, selfsame economic crisis can be fully laid at the feet of the deregulatory religion of the free market ideologues running the GOP, who didn't recognize the inherent problems of large financial institutions bereft of oversight.

Aces? No, the Rebublicans have nothing. Deregulation and massive consolidation of the banking and finance industries led to this crisis, and we'll be paying for it for many, many years.

If you think that's a winning hand, I've got a Bridge To Nowhere I'd like to sell you.

fempharoh08, Old Vet,

For fempharoh08,

No DEAR. I don't foster HATRE. That honor goes to the Obamas and their rev. Wright, and Louis Farrakhan.

That's still being held in the US District Court of Eastern PA.

For Old Vet, (If you are a TRUE Vet, my hat off to you for serving our country, I did mine, now my sons are doing it.)

I would believe it if an independent Org certified it, not by Obama group.

Still, there are OTHER complications brought on by his late mother's marriages. Still a lot of unanswered questions about Obama.

Hey repubs... there's a BIG difference between a friendly poker game and high stakes craps. Poker in its most common form is more of a social event than gambling, not to mention that poker relies heavily on individual skill and strategy. High stakes craps... well, it's a high stakes crapshoot. If I were the GOP, I would NOT be pushing this issue.

Look folks the whole economic mess if "chicken's coming home to roost." Anyone who wants 4 more repub years is like the alcoholic that doesn't know when to quit. How bad does it have to get???

Voter in America, maybe the problem is that you've voted since Nixon. Following the same old path, repeating the same old lies is what got us into Iraq and the financial mess we are in today. Judging by the way you write you have either been influenced by a severe mental disorder, or you're a shill for the traitors who've sold us down the river. How much did the McCain campaign pay you to spread your filthy lies?

HEY....can you tone down the hate filled messages, they are getting out of hand.

There's a time to holdup and a time to foldup. It looks like McCain was trying to bluff America into thinking he counted for something with the House Republicans. I wonder if McCain will go back to the phony foldup of suspending his campaign or use the aftermath to cancel the Palin debate with Biden.

MAYBE OBAMA SHOULD PACK UP AND DO WHAT THE 'GAMBLER" TOLD HIM TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE.. COME TO WASHINGTON
THE COUNTRY IS ABOUT TO HIT CHAOS..

OBAMA DOES NOT MIND WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS COUNTRY AS LONG AS IT ADDS TO HIS MESSAIHNESS.
HE IS CLAIMING CREDIT FOR THE BAILOUT .. MCCAIN CHANGED THE MINDS OF AT LEAST 60 SENATORS..
WHAT HAS OBAMA DONE??
RIGHT ANSWER: NOTHING!!
ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK!!
THATS ALL HE KNOWS.
HE WONT TELL US WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT OBAMA .. JUST TELLS US WHAT IS BAD ABOUT PALIN AND MCCAIN.
OBAMA DOES NOTHING!
OBAMA DOES NOTHING BUT POINT FINGERS AND PROMISE EVERYBODY THE MOON.
THIS GUY WOULD BE DIRECT FROM THE FRYING PAN INTO THE FIRE.
ONLY MCCAIN CAN HANDLE SUCH A PRECARIOUS ECONOMY WITH DISCIPLINE. LEARNING FROM NISTAKE.. OBAMA WOULD BE HANDING OUT LEFT AND RIGHT..SOCIALISM

MAYBE OBAMA SHOULD PACK UP AND DO WHAT THE 'GAMBLER" TOLD HIM TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE.. COME TO WASHINGTON
THE COUNTRY IS ABOUT TO HIT CHAOS..

OBAMA DOES NOT MIND WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS COUNTRY AS LONG AS IT ADDS TO HIS MESSAIHNESS.
HE IS CLAIMING CREDIT FOR THE BAILOUT .. MCCAIN CHANGED THE MINDS OF AT LEAST 60 SENATORS..
WHAT HAS OBAMA DONE??
RIGHT ANSWER: NOTHING!!
ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK!!
THATS ALL HE KNOWS.
HE WONT TELL US WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT OBAMA .. JUST TELLS US WHAT IS BAD ABOUT PALIN AND MCCAIN.
OBAMA DOES NOTHING!
OBAMA DOES NOTHING BUT POINT FINGERS AND PROMISE EVERYBODY THE MOON.
THIS GUY WOULD BE DIRECT FROM THE FRYING PAN INTO THE FIRE.
ONLY MCCAIN CAN HANDLE SUCH A PRECARIOUS ECONOMY WITH DISCIPLINE. LEARNING FROM NISTAKE.. OBAMA WOULD BE HANDING OUT LEFT AND RIGHT..SOCIALISM

Like McCain's discipline at the Naval Academy? Like his discipline when he screwed up his Naval career? Like his discipline in his first marriage? Like his discipline with Charles Keating? Like his discipline in championing the deregulation in the finance sector that created the current fiasco? Like his discipline in flying back to Washington to influence "his" House Republicans to pass this bill? Yep, that's the kind of leadership we need.

@james,

From what I hear, McCain's citizenship is technically in question. He was born on a naval base in Panama Canal region, which, when he was born, was not considered a US territory. So be careful about spreading rumours about Obama's citizenship. Someone can ACTUALLY challenge McCain's citizenship in the Supreme Court. It is very likely it will happen if he wins and you will have the hockey mom running the country.

To Tbone,

Thanks for that compliment!

Well, I guessed you aren't OLD enough to know anything, just simply spew your hatre.

For your info, I had been a life-long Democrats, my parents, my sibblings, ALL are registered Democrats.

I switched the party, because the PARTY LEFT me in Carter years (if you OLD enough to remember it) Double digit interest rate/inflation.

I am quite stable and sharp, too.

The way you called me "severe mental disorder", it certainly fits the description of your "call sign" I like to feed you to my dogs. They would enjoy a GREAT conversation with you!

From:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/draw-your-conclusions.html

Monday, September 29, 2008
Draw Your Conclusions

The bailout bill was brought forward by a Republican administration.

Over 2/3rds of Democrats voted for it.

John McCain said that he would deliver the votes of Republicans.

He "suspended his campaign" to do it.

He made this a central test of his leadership by doing so.

He said he would not attend the debate unless the bailout bill passed.

He attended the debate.

He failed to deliver the Republican votes.

The bill did not pass.

Draw your conclusions.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/draw-your-conclusions.html

On Wednesday nights during Illinois General Assembly sessions, a group of lobbyists and lawmakers used to gather at the headquarters of the Illinois Manufacturers' Association for a weekly poker game. Barack Obama, who represented part of Chicago as state senator from 1997-2004, was a regular."
******************************************* A weekly poker game is quite a bit different than 12-14 hour stretches at the craps table, going through 10's of thousands of dollars at a time like Senator McDrama Queen does. That is a serious gambling addiction and the last thing I want is a Drama Queen like McCAIN gambling with our country.

you idio_s

it was the years 2000 to 2006

where al;l that deregulation let all these new equations and corporate greed run amock

and let the banking industry feel they had little risk because the mortgages could be moved to the financial sector.

because the same guys who brought us the S& L crisis finally got there way...

the last 2 years has been just settling the whirlwind that started...

the problem is the hangover doesn't set in until (as we see now 2years) later ... from those 6 years of deregulation lobby run amock...

as they sit perched all around John mcCain writing his economic plans for the next 4 to 8 years for us.

so don't believe the spin from some of the same bologne throwers on here...(same ones who gave you all the bull from the last 8 years that has gotten us in so much trouble)

this did not from Jimmy carter...ugh

it did not come from an attempt expanding homeownership...

it did not come from "greed" as a bad thing (a little of it did but very littlwe)

greed makes our country run...it is the American motor to want to achieve.

If the rules and regulators tell you ...you are able to do something. Many people thought they could.

IT is deregulation that caused this mess ...combined with a democratic notion of trying to help every American be able to "achieve" in a lawful and regulated society...

and nothing else.

A capitalist democracy...needs regulation. don't let the theorists who think they are so smart try to spin it any other way.

I used to think the thoery of "dumbing down of america" was only a theory...Anyone who votes for a monkey will make it a reality.

fempharoh08 - I'm with Voter in America - why won't this simply be officially addressed by the State of Hawaii? End the so called "lie" once and for all - putting a "birth certificate" online doesn't do it for me - and it certainly wouldn't hold up in the legal arena. And then there's the issue of the Chicago Daley family backing EVERY Democratic nominee - Gore, Kerry and Obama too. The Democratic family is the most dysfunctional family I have ever seen - shove it under the rug and don't talk about that.... crap is OLD - OLDER than McCain - I'd rather be called a Republican than to be led around by the OLD Democratic ring in my nose.

McCain rolled the dice and lost with his political "Here I come to save the day" stunt. He said we would not debate until there was an agreement. Seems there wasn't an agreement Friday night and he debated. McCain is a proven liar, his avarice for the Oval Office is such that he will do anything, say anything to sit there.
He's getting so erratic many of his party are raising eyebrows, i.e. George Will. He appeared angry, grouchy, condenscending during the debate. Even his old buddy Lindsay Grahman has to admit Obama kick his behind.

Obama is the right man for this moment.

Obama is gambling that the court system in America will DELAY and DELAY his suit. He knows he is not eligible to be President because of his Dual Nationality. He is lying to America and he is putting America on a dangerous road and he does not care!

Voter in America, you are a joke. I could care less if you were a Democrat or Republic (as if you could be relied on to tell the truth anyway). Like a playground bully, you turn to threats when someone calls you on your weak arguments and vile lies. I'd really like you to try sicking your dogs on me --they would not be coming home to you. Then you could try to fend for yourself. Like most threatening bullies, you probably fear that more than change. No one's intimidated by you--you're wasting space.

To Joel.

Joel, you're either stupid or just bitter.
Barack was born in Hawaï by an American young woman (young woman of 18 years old when he was born) and an African man (from Kenya).

I was born by an American man (from New York) and an Eurpean woman (from Palerma, Italy).

As much as you or me or anyone else here, Barack is American.

So, don't be stupid, nobody's gonna make your eucation here, you need to educate yourself. Stop acting like a fool here, alright ?!

As someone who has a degree in Political Science and has studied International and Constitutional Law, there are two ways to acquire citizenship.
1. By Blood - your parents are citizens of the country.
2. By place of birth- country you are in at the time of birth.
For example, if your parents are US Citizens and are in Germany at the time of your birth, you technically can claim citizenship in either country.
That is why one of the terrorists at Gitmo is claiming US Citizenship. His parents were here at the time of his birth although he was 2 when they left.
McCain's father was a US Naval Officer at the time of his birth and was stationed in the Panama Canal Zone. This makes McCain a US Citizen. This applies to the children of all government employees and military stationed around the world. This rule is honored by all nations.

Tom Tescher - PLEASE look at a video of the debate - don't close your eyes - LOOK at Obama - obviously frustrated by what he wasn't prepped on - but you can't prep experience and sincerity - McCain was not appearing "angry, grouchy, condenscending during the debate." I saw a smiling face no matter what - especially when he pointed out Obama's lack of experience, and everything else he's lacking ...

Hey "Voter in America." If McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, does that make him a citizen? Obama was born in Hawaii. The last time I looked, Hawaii is a state and Panama is not. So, which one is really a citizen? Both you idiot. However, only one is good enought to be President...OBAMA!

All I can say is that Hillary looks so much better than the the two choices we are lef with. This is all Obama zombie's fault that we can not elect the best candidate that was available to us in Hillary.

Susan says she "used to think the thoery of "dumbing down of america" was only a theory...Anyone who votes for a monkey will make it a reality."

One thing this country no longer needs is racists. That, and the fact that he is better qualified, is why I'm voting for Obama and not for the guy loved by the racists.

Obama is terrible at poker. He is bluffing ... as usual.

He's got a "tell".... everytime he touches his nose, stammers, or says he agrees with you, he is bluffing (i.e. lying).

The Democrats are right - If a person hears/sees something ELEVEN times, they will believe it. Obama was born in Kenya. Maybe I should write that eleven times for the slow learners here.

Voter In America,

You are a liar.

Do you know what laws made McCain a "Natural Born Citizen"?

Do you know what a "Natural Born Citizen" is?

Do you know that even children of "illegal immigrants" are "Natural Born Citizens" by virtue of the fact that they are born on US soil.

Morons and bigots like you make me sick.

It is even more troubling that you claim to have voted since Nixon, so I know you are an old goon.

An old ignorant goon for that matter.

and we won't be betting on black November 4 either.

After reviewing the debate several times, I saw Obama frustrated at the exaggerations and lies that McCain was spewing. McCain appeared to be ashamed to even look Obama in the eye or speak with him. Not surprising because the current version of McCain would be embarrassed to look the 2000 McCain in the eye also.

Prep experience? John McCain has no executive OR strategic military experience. Prep sincerity? I saw a twisted attempt at a smile, but somewhere deep down the good left in McCain just can't stomach the cynical campaign he's run.

I wish McCain could prep judgment. Maybe we wouldn't be in Iraq or this financial mess that we find ourselves in.

. Obama was born in Kenya. Maybe I should write that eleven times for the slow learners here.
===
right this 2000 times: Obama was not born in Kenya, he was born in Hawaii. His mother was an American citizen.
so hurry along, grab some chalk and like a good student start writing!

For all you leftist idiots that keep bringing up the bridge to nowhere remember both Obama and Biden voted for it not Palin

On the Reverand Wright issue: Wright said and I'm paraphrasing: Blacks live in desperate poverty, the govenment is unsucessful at eliminating drug dealers and then Blacks are imprisoned for stealing and drug use. Then he is says "God Damn America" for not taking care of their citizens. Why is this a problem? Although this is an extreme way of presenting it, I think Reverand Wright may have a point. The government should be taking better care of its citizens and he should, we all should be mad-very mad about this.

VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN

Yep I agree: Palin was always opposed to the Bridge to Nowhere. In fact she NEVER supported it and sent the money back as soon as she became governor. She was so responsible, that she also ordered state contractors to cease work on the Road to Nowhere that was just completed this month.

If you believe that, then I have a Bridge to Nowhere to sell you...

On the Obama comment: "those who cling to their guns and religion." I think Obama is right. Those individuals who live in poverty and are uneducated must take solace in only those things which they have in their lives as comfort: guns and religion. Why is this considered a bad thing to say? With no intelligence to fall back on, Palin does excatly the same thing, she clings to her guns and religion to win votes.

Gus-
Palin can't vote in the senate!

Since the Democrats have made this mess and set it up with Obama chants of "It is bush fault" "It is the governmets Fault" For over 2 years now.

They sure have set the people and the government up for the fall.

Funny if Obama ever Gets elected it will be illegal to Blame him for anything, he will not tolerate that.

Of course if he is elected we will have no first admentment rights to worry about it.

Him writing a new constitution for the black birth right and new government he plans on making will insure no resistance at all.

With his wealthy backers who want to own the banks like soro's, his communist friends who want a new government, and Michelle obama who want The Norht American Union.

America Will be a pretty bleak place comapared to what is was.

If Mr Obama & company, the chicago mob and his communist friends, and terrorist friends want to do a coup on the government, At least they will have to work for it now. it will not be handed over to them with control of the banks and industry.

Without money to pay the reparations Mr Obama will just give the Blacks the country.

Either way you look at it, The United States of America will be damned under Obama.

What's wrong with a little socialism in the US. You don't see Candians trying to immigrate here. The United States is no longer greatest country on earth. Ask any foreigner and well as US citizens. The Bush admninistration can take credit for this lack of respect for the United States.

VOTE OBAMA. The world loves him!

WHY DON'T THE CONGRESSMEN THAT MADE SO MUCH, LIKE CHRIS DODD AND BARNEY FRANK AND THE HEAD OF LEHMAN BROTHER AND AIG, BE FORCED TO RETURN THE MONEY AND HELP US OUT OF THIS DEAL. I THINK OBAMA MADE THE 2ND MOST MONEY FROM THEM .. MAYBE THEY CAN HELP.

What lost today's vote was the current speaker (Nancy Pelosi)! What possessed her to lambast the republicans prior to this critical vote is totally beyond me, BUT SHE IS NO LEADER! Through her partisan speech today, she set up some members who may lose on November 4 -- not against them as much as there will be a vote against HER!!

The Good LORD was probably looking down on us, for this was a clear vote NO FOR SOCIALISM!!

There is enough blame to go around on this fiasco. The Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999, started the ball rolling. And while there is a lot of blame to be placed on the Administration for not ram rodding more regulation through, there is a lot of culpability in Franklin Raines (Clinton's former OMB chief), Jim Johnson (initially Obama's VEEP search committee chair) and Jamie Gorelick (all over the Clinton administration -- DOD & Justice to name two), and their cheer leaders in Congress. Candidly, it is probably time for a new chair of the banking committee. Barney Franks provided a lot of cheerleading to keep lose credit going, as did Chris Dodd in the Senate.

Point being, it is time for new leadership in the House and Senate. We cannot afford the current speaker any longer. In the largest vote of her career -- she lost! 40% of the Democrats DID NOT VOTE FOR THE BILL!! Historians will ask the rhetorical question: WHAT WAS SHE THINKING?????

Seah: your commentary is just short of laughable. It would be really scary if I thought you really believed what you just wrote.

Our House of Representatives listened to over 200 of America’s top economists and smart people of this country. They did what was right not what was fast and convenient and prosperous to the very rich. The fact that the House of Representatives rejected the bail out is awesome! Here is why. The bill was a just a band-aid that still benefitted the very rich and not the people. It was not a solution to the cause of the problem. This bill would only have postponed the inevitable to just after the next President is sworn in on Jan. 29, 2009. There are real solutions to the cause of the problems of the credit crises not even considered in this terrible fast paced 700 Billion dollar extortion bail out bill for the extremely rich people of this country and around the world.

In January 2009 the 7 trillion dollars in bad mortgage loans that the banks have reported will still be unpaid. Who knows how many trillion dollars of bad mortgage debt have not been reported by the banks. 700 billion dollars won’t even come close to paying for all of this debt. Financial melt down is inevitable. Let it happen now so true recovery can begin. Bush and his Cronies did their best to ram this 770 billion dollar pay off to the rich for making this mess down our throats.

Here is some interesting info. Bush and Chaney have recently purchased homes in foreign counties to for a speedy get away to live in after their terms are over in Jan. 2009. They didn’t want this economy to blow up on them while they were still in office. They didn’t want the blame for their very real immoral, unethical and most likely illegal actions. Yeah they got both.

One last fleecing of the American people was halted by our smart members of the House of Representatives who listened to the people and over 200 of America’s top economists. We can truly thank them for listening to us.

It’s time for the people to march on Washington DC peacefully in protest if they attempt to pass this fraudulent bill again. “The only thing to fear is fear itself.” (President Franklin D. Roosevelt Democrat) Make the members of the House of Representatives and the members of the Senate know they were hired by all of us who voted for them not just a few very rich people. Make them know we are their bosses not a few rich families. We the People: Demand REAL SOLUTIONS FOR ALL PEOPLE not for just a very few extremely rich people!

Put it all on black and let it ride!

Obama, the fledgling idiot!

i guess the market didn't think bush was crying wolf.

last night mccain and the gop committed to providing 80 votes. they are using the speaker's comments as cover for their own sheeple and to provide reasons for lying or not being able to deliver on their commitment.

we all know every vote is stage managed. folks who would be hurt by their vote are the last to vote so they can position against the issue if their vote is not needed. my friends last week the congress was not negotiating a bill, they were negotiating how many votes each party was going to provide to pass this 'crap sandwich'.

mccain has messed this up at every stage. this morning he took credit for a deal and was stabbed in the back by his own party. and don't forget it was this internal gop fight that forced mccain to dc last week. then they contrived the wh meeting to drag in obama for some political cover.

obama managed the situation and his party brilliantly. he set clear & limited principles and then stayed the heck out of the way of the technical negotiations.

had the dems passed the bill soley on their own vote the gop machine would be popping corks and preparing tv ads attacking the dems for the 'bush bailout'. and they would have used the vote to tar and feather the dems all the way to nov 4th.

Either way you look at it, The United States of America will be damned under Obama.

Posted by: seah | Sep 29, 2008 5:03:28 PM

I TOTALLY AGREE!

133 republicans voter to kill the bill. What a shame when this could lead to another depression.

The Fundamentals of the Economy Are Strong, But Only When I Say So.

Guess who picked a day that the Dow dropped 688.08 (at this moment) to declare, “After this immediate problem, we’ve got the long-term fundamentals that will really make sure this economy grows”?

Barack Obama.

At rascalofearth :

Two years ago, McCain went AGAINST his party and told them that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were in trouble. Pelosi, Reid, and Dodd laughed him off and now with Pelosi showing her butt, the last laugh is on the DemWits and Pelosi, along with her puppet, Obama!

All LIBERALS are LIARS!!!!!!!!! The Democrats that did not vote with their party were not even LIBERALS!!!!!!!!! What does that NOW TELL YA you LIBERAL NUTS !!!!!!!!!!! HYPOCRITES YOU ALL ARE!!!!!!!!!

Pelosi should be ousted now! She deserves to go after this, along with Obama, Reid, and Dodd!

Idiots...all of them!

Voter in America, James, your 401k just went down the toilet, SSN does not actually belong to you until you retire, 65, 67 or maybe 70, so maybe you should go back and get McCain and Boehner to deliver the votes they bragged about. Don't blame Obama, because Republicans in swing states thought they would keep there seats in November if they said No. But when people's retirements and investments are all gone, they won't be reelected regardless. See you all in welfare line.