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Stephanopoulos: Independent Voters Hold White House Key
September 30, 2008 7:22 PM
ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos reports: Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama holds a 50-46 percent lead over Republican presidential candidate John McCain among likely voters, according to the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll.
However independent and undecided voters, who could make all the difference in a tight election, are shifting back and forth between Obama and McCain.
After the Republican convention, McCain was up by about 10 points among independent likely voters, according to an ABC/Post poll released earlier this month.
Then, last week Obama has a big swing and was up by 14 percentage points, but in our latest poll, McCain has pulled ahead by three percentage points.
We’ve seen similar dramatic moves among white women, another group whose preferences are changing with each new poll.
After the Republican convention, McCain has a double-digit lead among white women, with many pundits crediting his new vice presidential pick Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for the shift in voter preferences. Last week Obama pulled ahead by two percentage points with white women, but the ABC/Post poll released today finds McCain regaining sizeable 11 percentage point lead over Obama with this group.
One in five voters say they could still change their mind in this election. It is those undecided voters and white women voters who will hold the key to who wins the White House in five weeks.
The poll also found that President Bush is far and away the biggest drag on McCain right now.
He has a new disapproval rating of 70 percent, which is a record for all presidents going back to the beginning of public opinion polling in 1938. The problem for McCain is that a majority of Americans – 53 percent – believe he would take the country in the same direction as Bush.
When it comes to the all-important Commander-in-Chief test, a majority of Americans still do not believe Obama would be a good Commander-in-Chief. The poll found McCain leading Obama on who would make a good Commander-in-Chief of the military, with 73 percent of Americans saying McCain would do a good job, while just 46 percent said Obama would make a good Commander-in-Chief.
But for the first time, the poll found a majority of Americans – 52 percent – who say Obama has the experience to serve effectively as president.
If Obama keeps that number above 50 percent, it will be his race to lose.
September 30, 2008 in McCain, John, Obama, Barack, Vote 2008: Democrats, Vote 2008: Republicans | Permalink | User Comments (599)
The poll numbers, and whole "horserace" mentality of the election coverage is misleading. In terms of the electoral college, Obama has a commanding lead. I'm not saying the election is sewn up, in Obama's favor, but I'm a little tired of the storyline that "independents are shifting back and forth" "it's anybody's race" etc.
Honest coverage, and coverage that would be helpful to the voting public, would say that McCain is losing in traditionally red states, is falling behind in battleground states, and has been on a downward slide ever since people finally started catching on that Palin is not the salvation of the Republican party that people wanted her to be. Enough with the "horserace" mentality!
Posted by: jon in maryland | Sep 30, 2008 7:48:13 PM
Well this Independent voter from Va.is supporting Obama Biden.
Posted by: CW | Sep 30, 2008 7:49:01 PM
My wife and I are both in the military. She is serving her 26th year and Im on my 29th. One year to go for me. We have always voted fot the Republican ticket in the past even though we are Independent. After keeping up with this campaine and researching everything we could, we will be supporting Obama. McCain served his country with honor, but that in itself doesnt mean he will be a good President. What really sent us over the edge was the pick of Palin. The thought that she could be our Commander in Chief one day is scarey. Both Kennedy and Reagan were great at deplomacy and the Berlin Wall came down and we prevented a war with the Soviets during the Cuban missle crisis due to having brains in the White House that believed in deplomacy first.At one point Kennedy's four Generals and Chief of Staff were pressuring Kennedy to attack. Kennedy didnt fall to the pressure and used is brains and deplomacy to possibly stop a war and it worked. Does anyone acually believe, if McCain and Palin had been in office that they would have gone against their Generals and used deplomacy. I think not. If something were to happen to McCain, Palin would be in charge of the most powerful military in the world. I know about the Alaska National Guard but I also know she as never given them one single command. My Wife and I are sure in our beliefs that if McCain and Palin are elected, at the least, we would just continue with Bush policies or even worse. Obama believes not only in deplomacy first, before conflict, and has the brains to make it work. He will keep our military strong and country safe and will help fix the the worlds view of us. Remember the days when the international community respected and looked up to us. Please support the troops and God Bless America.
Posted by: CW | Sep 30, 2008 7:56:26 PM
Dumb people voted for Bush, dumber people will vote for Obama/Biden
Posted by: Mack | Sep 30, 2008 7:58:42 PM
Good thing all the independents are voting for Obama!!!
Posted by: Ed from MA | Sep 30, 2008 7:59:04 PM
Independent Voters:
Please read about Hussein Obama before you decide. Read
http://www. obamaunveiled. com
Posted by: Hussein_Islam_Obama | Sep 30, 2008 8:04:52 PM
They are not polling the students. Having seen Palin's performance on CBS interview with Couric, I am scared to think that an idiot could become a president in case McCain passes on. Another Evita?
Posted by: silkwool | Sep 30, 2008 8:05:30 PM
OBAMA, is a new way of doing new things. Bush/McCain is the old corrupt way.
McCain...how is the 1st wife you left high and dry...with a payments from Botox Barbie
Posted by: nonyabizness | Sep 30, 2008 8:05:33 PM
But I also know my opinion doesn't matter because we also have a Senator Barney Frank who is .. a lisp talking dork who CAUSED all of this mess with his pressure to give out loans to low income people who obviously couldn't handle the payments! Now - go crawl into your hole ..
Posted by: Ed from MA. | Sep 30, 2008 8:06:24 PM
what a boring day---perhaps when palin starts cackling like a chicken on thursday we will have some entertainment------and george stop being so boring---even mcbush is getting predictable.
Posted by: rodney | Sep 30, 2008 8:06:30 PM
Bush finally sets a record that he deserves do richly.
Posted by: ronnierayjenkins | Sep 30, 2008 8:06:52 PM
Bush finally sets a record that he deserves do richly.
Posted by: ronnierayjenkins | Sep 30, 2008 8:06:54 PM
Obama, ACORN, and Fannie Mae: What exactly does a "community organizer" do? Barack Obama's rise has left many Americans asking themselves that question. Here's a big part of the answer: Community organizers intimidate banks into making high-risk loans to customers with poor credit (Source: Stanley Kurtz, The National Review).
What if Barack Obama’s most important radical connection has been hiding in plain sight all along? Obama has had an intimate and long-term association with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), the largest radical group in America. If I told you Obama had close ties with MoveOn.org or Code Pink, you’d know what I was talking about. ACORN is at least as radical as these better-known groups, arguably more so. Yet because ACORN works locally, in carefully selected urban areas, its national profile is lower. ACORN likes it that way. And so, I’d wager, does Barack Obama.
In the name of fairness to minorities, community organizers occupy private offices, chant inside bank lobbies, and confront executives at their homes - and thereby force financial institutions to direct hundreds of millions of dollars in mortgages to low-credit customers.
In other words, community organizers help to undermine the US economy by pushing the banking system into a sinkhole of bad loans. And Obama has spent years training and funding the organizers who do it. Read the shocking details...
Read the $700 Billion Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 bill currently in Congress.
Find out why Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are impeding Republican efforts to investigate Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Even Bill Clinton blames the democrats for obstructing efforts to investigate these corrupt institutions and their executives who stole tens of millions of taxpayer dollars.
In 2005, Sen. McCain co-sponsored a bill to tighten control of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. The bill was opposed primarily by House Democrats led by Rep. Frank Barney who wanted little control or oversight of these financial giants. Read the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 that was co-sponsored by Sen. McCain and rejected by House Democrats.
http://www. obamaunveiled. com
Posted by: Hussein_Islam_Obama | Sep 30, 2008 8:07:08 PM
I make 18K a year part-time .. can I get a home loan for 350K please?? Sheesh! Wake up people ..
Posted by: Marcus | Sep 30, 2008 8:07:27 PM
"OBAMA, is a new way of doing new things. Bush/McCain is the old corrupt way."
New way of doing things? Guess you having been paying attention. Chicago politicians are some of the most corrupt in the nation.
Posted by: Mack | Sep 30, 2008 8:07:39 PM
I voted for Sen. Clinton in the primary, and she's right when she says that she needs a president who will pass her version of Universal Health Care.
That person is Sen. Obama.
Posted by: Rodham Democrat | Sep 30, 2008 8:08:08 PM
Mack you will be hard pressed to find any body dumber than john mccain. Finished 894 out of 899 in the naval academy.
I believe mccain when he says he knows nothing about the economy. He is the in the bush mold favors emotion over thinking.
Posted by: sand | Sep 30, 2008 8:08:25 PM
Right on CW. My husband was a Navy Flight instructor during Nam. He too honors McCain's service. But he says pilots are graded on "headwork" - McCain's selection of Sarah Palin was seriously bad headwork. He and I are voting Obama/Biden.
Posted by: Idahogirl | Sep 30, 2008 8:08:41 PM
I hope the American people don't vote for McCain and vote for Obama because he is a better man. McCain is a evil, rotten, twisted human being who is part of the good old boy establishment. He is a part of the money club that has destroyed our nation because of shear relentless decadence. We don't need change. What we need is a rediscovery of what it is to be a proud USONIAN. The religious right and pinko left need to leave the US and find UTOPIA somewhere else. The USA is for USONIANS and not religious zealots or left wing do gooders. The USA is for people who are willing to respect everyone including the religious zealots and left wing do gooders. The problem is the right and left have no idea who they are. So I will tell who you are. You are a USONIAN a person from the United States of America. Love it or Leave it.
Posted by: cony 647 | Sep 30, 2008 8:08:52 PM
I support loans to ALL low income people to give them the American dream .. a home they will default on because they don't make enough to rent let alone purchase!
Posted by: Barney Frankly Stupid | Sep 30, 2008 8:09:04 PM
I'm Frustrated with McCain with this pick of his. I wish he would have picked "Leslie Sanchez" instead. Palin is cute and all but she sounds so ignorant of major issues and it becoming quite disturbing and she sounds like a student craming for an exam. Just venting and frustrated....
Posted by: Palinmademe | Sep 30, 2008 8:09:14 PM
CW...I could not have said it better myself....
Thank you for serving.....
Obama/Biden
Posted by: jen | Sep 30, 2008 8:09:39 PM
CW - While I don't share your view points on who to vote for, I do want to sincerely thank both you and your wife for your service to this country. You deserve the utmost respect from every person in this country for your sacrifices. Thank you so much. God Bless you Both.
Posted by: R | Sep 30, 2008 8:09:49 PM
CW - While I don't share your view points on who to vote for, I do want to sincerely thank both you and your wife for your service to this country. You deserve the utmost respect from every person in this country for your sacrifices. Thank you so much. God Bless you Both.
Posted by: R | Sep 30, 2008 8:09:49 PM
CW, there is no one dumber than someone that voted for Bush
Posted by: mudge007 | Sep 30, 2008 8:10:01 PM
I have great confidence, that the majority of American (voters) citizens will realize McCain would be another four years of bad decision making, just like George W. Bush, and let the younger generation take the reins now, so we can have real CHANGE in our government, with electing Barack Obama and Joe Biden to lead us out of this mess we're all in.
Posted by: jms55 | Sep 30, 2008 8:10:16 PM
"I make 18K a year part-time .. can I get a home loan for 350K please??'
You can have that and more if you vote for Barry! All of your wildest dreams will come true!
Posted by: Mack | Sep 30, 2008 8:10:21 PM
CW, there is no one dumber than someone that voted for Bush
Posted by: mudge007 | Sep 30, 2008 8:10:26 PM
Reparations too Mack? Please??
Posted by: Marcus | Sep 30, 2008 8:11:08 PM
hey ed
do you think we would be in this mess if people saved a little for what they want----or just continue to use credit cards and pay double---we have become a country of idiots----25 thousand income,buy a 300 thousand dollar home.
now we are to pay these mortgages----i say no put them back in the trailer park--and make them earn their way.
Posted by: rodney | Sep 30, 2008 8:11:11 PM
CW, sorry, that was meant for Mack
Posted by: mudge007 | Sep 30, 2008 8:11:23 PM
Who are these "independent voters?" sound like a pack of w hores to me.
Posted by: cusco | Sep 30, 2008 8:12:09 PM
McCain is so all over the board with how he handles things. I left my house Mon. morning and McCain and Romney were on television stations giving credit to the passage of the BailOut Bill to McCain. I come home at 3pm and the bill did not even pass. McCain oversteps and winds up crippling himself by trying to one up Obama. Not to mention his pick of a VP. Now wonder the American public is not feeling confident in him.
Posted by: Patty Atlanta | Sep 30, 2008 8:12:16 PM
I agree Rodney - blame Congress all you want .. but A LOT of people need a mirror!!
Posted by: Marcus | Sep 30, 2008 8:12:19 PM
mack
you are overlooking the last 8 years that got us in this mess/
Posted by: rodney | Sep 30, 2008 8:12:35 PM
"and let the younger generation take the reins now, so we can have real CHANGE in our government, with electing Barack Obama and Joe Biden"
Yeah, and Joe Biden too! That's the real change that we've always hoped for!
Posted by: Mack | Sep 30, 2008 8:12:44 PM
I'm an independent (ex-democrat) who is learning to dispise the democrat's and republican's. I may vote straight ticket against the party that get's the largest "yea" vote for the bailout crapola! I certainly won't let them get away with it without a cost...with my vote.
Posted by: kennedy | Sep 30, 2008 8:14:10 PM
agree Palin not fit to be commander in chief, not even fit to be the ceo of a fortune 500 company
Posted by: carlosgeneric233 | Sep 30, 2008 8:14:17 PM
McCain is capable but Palin is a disaster. Only a highly partisan individual could have thought anything positive of the interviews she's had with ABC and CBS. She was clearly lost. I don't say this with rancor. I don't feel comfortable with anyone coming off that badly. But this is a leadership position of our great nation and we don't have that kind of margin for error. Certainly partisan Republicans and those with less positive biases will not allow that Obama is a brilliant man. But most neutral observers would have to credit him with that. He wasn't a legacy admit like McCain who performed poorly in college but a bright individual who had to earn an Ivy League education and then did very well there.
Posted by: richard | Sep 30, 2008 8:14:50 PM
Most of the rest of the world is totally baffled that the race is so close.
The values McCain represents and his political lineage should ensure Obama would win in a landslide. But no. Half of Americans seriously believe the GOP is on their side.
Very strange people.
Posted by: gwhizz | Sep 30, 2008 8:15:00 PM
Well, just a week ago Obambi held a 9 point lead..now it's down to 4! We're right back where we were pre debate and Palin "bashing" of the Media!
I say McCain/Palin by 60 EV's!!!
Posted by: DemNoMore | Sep 30, 2008 8:16:05 PM
I have great confidence in the majority of American voters throughout our great country, that they will realize McCain will be another four years of bad decision making like George W. Bush. It is time to let the younger generation take the reins, so we will have real change in our government by electing Barack Obama for president. Our great country is in a real mess right now, caused by bad politics, and we must hold the person responsible who is presently commander and chief. Harry S. Truman once said; "The buck stops here."
Posted by: jms55 | Sep 30, 2008 8:17:04 PM
Poll - who on here owns a home and is struggling or just complaining for something to pass time??
Posted by: Sandy | Sep 30, 2008 8:17:41 PM
Independent in Fishersville, VA voting for OBAMA!
It will be close. Northern VA (next to DC) is all about Obama. But the farther south you go, the more McCain's support goes up.
But there are some of us in central VA who aren't programmed to vote Republican like we're on auto pilot.
I was leaning toward a Dem because the current administration shredded the Constitution. But Palin was the deciding factor for me. Probably a nice person, but no way she should be that close to running our nation.
Posted by: Another VA Independent | Sep 30, 2008 8:18:21 PM
I see the republican paid bloggers are on again tonite. These idiots actually think by spewing the garbage they do, that people will eventually believe them. Dream on dimwits. We wouldn't believe you or McCain and his Poddle if you were the last people in the buildning. Obama will bet the next president. So get use to calling him President Obama and Mr President. Its a done deal and the repugs know it. Thats why the are scared and scrambling to try and distort all the facts. Hahahahahahahahahahahahah bye bye repugs.
Posted by: My name is nobody | Sep 30, 2008 8:19:15 PM
Who gets polled?! These polls mean "nothing" except to try to change people's minds, mind games. Fox has McCain winning, this and other BIASED networks have Obama winning, LOL.......I'm voting for the good guys, McCain/Palin
Posted by: Ann | Sep 30, 2008 8:20:17 PM
You cannot point fingers at just one party for the banking mess right now. The problem goes far beyond the Bush Administration. Yes, it would be great if we could all blame who we wanted but this problem is too huge. If the Bush Administration would have gone into these companies everyone would have been criticizing them for taking away the right to free enterprise. And McCain was telling them to do just that in 03. And they are not the only ones. Clinton noticed this problem too but did nothing about it, did not stand up and demand action. Why wasn't Obama stating this was going to be a problem from teh day he joined the Senate? Why were the people getting the loans borrowing more they could afford. And I don't want the excuse they didn't know...that's hogwash. We recently purchased a new home and our loan officer said we could afford a mortgage payment of 2000 a month and we said maybe if we don't eat. That's not going to happen. And we borrowed what we could afford. We did not buy into the notion that we DESERVED to own any home we wanted even if we could not afford it like the dems want you to believe. No one believes they ahve to work hard anymore and EARN what they want. They want it and they want it now and they don't want to work and save for it and that mentality is what got us into this mess in the first place.
Posted by: R | Sep 30, 2008 8:20:21 PM
Watch people - the Obama campaign kool-aid drinkers all leave their little shacks at 8:30PM (I know - my friend is one) .. watch the support drop off here real soon on here!
Posted by: Brandi | Sep 30, 2008 8:20:26 PM
If Obama was a WHITE Guy the Polls would be showing a 70% Obama LEAD....
WAKE UP AMERICA ...
The issue is not Race but SURVIVAL!!!
Obama=Biden 08 !!!
Posted by: buddy in pa | Sep 30, 2008 8:20:30 PM
yeah, uuh, Mack, chicago is a city. Illinois, however, is a state. Get it? I shouldnt have to explain further. Vote for Obama. Our country depends on it. Point blank.
Posted by: dontbhatin' | Sep 30, 2008 8:20:38 PM
sandy
if you own your home you should not be struggling---it is those who bury themselves in debt--and live on credit cards that are struggling------you know living beyond their means,and now want someone else to pay the bill.
Posted by: rodney | Sep 30, 2008 8:20:39 PM
"
I voted for Sen. Clinton in the primary, and she's right when she says that she needs a president who will pass her version of Universal Health Care.
That person is Sen. Obama."
Yeah, so did I and there's not a chance in hell I'm voting for that idiot! If you think Hillary and Bill are over Obama playing the race card on them and demonizing them, then you're dumber than I thought!
Go ahead and validate Obama's bashing and trashing of the Clintons by voting for him..this democrat is voting McCain..because the presidency is no "on the job training."
Posted by: DemNoMore | Sep 30, 2008 8:20:46 PM
Hey George Stephanopoulos thanks for the latest polls but you forgot one very important poll. What about the lowest rating ever for Congress????? Oh wait that is controlled by the Democrats so we sure do not want to talk about that now do we
McCain all the way Baby
Posted by: Karl | Sep 30, 2008 8:21:07 PM
Thanks to all. It has been an honor to serve this country and my Wife who is out to sea would feel the same way. All my Junior and Senior men and women have served and serve this country with great honor as well. Even though I am for Obama, whoever wins this election, I pray, will use the power of the military with intelligence.
Posted by: CW | Sep 30, 2008 8:21:11 PM
Lou Dobbs: ACORN’s Freddie and Fannie Connections
http://purplepeoplevote.com/2008/09/30/lou-dobbs-acorns-freddie-and-fannie-connections/
Posted by: LightSeeker | Sep 30, 2008 8:21:16 PM
bubby
you took the words right out of my mouth------as you can see the kkk is alive and well
Posted by: rodney | Sep 30, 2008 8:21:50 PM
So you're saying anyone who owns a home isn't struggling?? Interesting .. I beg to differ but interesting comment!
Posted by: Sandy | Sep 30, 2008 8:22:34 PM
I thought this was a fair editorial.
Although, the “link” didn’t seem to match the headline or the body of the story?
But, hey, I’m not trying to be picky, George was fair.
This is starting to remind me of the 2004 election. Many people began to get too confident that Sen. Kerry had that election in the bag. They overlooked the “swift boat Vets” and choose not to react, and it cost them.
I see many liberal bloggers WAY too confident. Bubbling under are new details about ACORN’s role in our current financial crisis. And new details about Sen. Obama- his role with ACORN and Ayers.
I feel like I have been down this road before..!!
Posted by: The Angry Republic | Sep 30, 2008 8:24:09 PM
How so Buddy in PA .. how's he going to make your life better? Don't just spew nonsense .. give us some facts or thoughts! Survival?? Ha ha. If the President of the US determines your survival pal .. you're in deep shitz!
Posted by: James Carville | Sep 30, 2008 8:24:35 PM
My Name is Nobody - How is name calling and spilling the garbage you spew going to change anyone's mind to your side? There are days I'm on the fence and there I days I believe i will vote for Obama and then days I may vote for McCain. I come on and read the blogs and the majority of liberals are name calling and cussing while the conservatives are giving statistics and examples. And then they just get told they are stupid. How does that make me want to come to your side? To me it looks like the liberals are a party of bitter hatred.
Posted by: R | Sep 30, 2008 8:25:01 PM
sandy
all this crap has absolutely no effect on me-----i dont buy what i cannot pay for------might be a good idea for all.
Posted by: rodney | Sep 30, 2008 8:25:07 PM
WELL THIS INDEPENDENT IN PENNSYLVANIA IS VOTING MACCAIN/PALIN.
PALIN'S JUST FINE. SHE'S NOT AMERICA'S BEST GOVERNOR FOR NOTHING. WHATEVER EXPERIENCE SHE LACKS..SHE'LL GAIN QUICKLY UNDER MACCAIN'S WINGS.
CAN OBAMBO SAY THE SAME?
Posted by: NOBAMA | Sep 30, 2008 8:25:35 PM
R - because they are!!
Posted by: Sampson | Sep 30, 2008 8:25:48 PM
Republicans have tried to rein in Fannie and Freddie. Republican attempts to reform them in 1999 failed. In 2003, when Alan Greenspan testified about how Fannie and Freddie’s loose practices could endanger our financial system, it was Democrat Barney Frank who said these institutions were fundamentally sound, and should be more aggressive in getting loans to low-income people. In 2005, a Republican reform passed the Senate Banking Committee on a party-line vote, only to be blocked by Democrats from passing the full Senate. And in 2006 when John McCain spoke on the Senate floor of the need to reform Fannie and Freddie immediately, Democrats (including Barack Obama) would not respond.
You can also see where Fannie and Freddie look for protection by where they direct their money. Public records show that the top two recipients of Fannie/Freddie campaign contributions are Sens. Chris Dodd and Barack Obama, taking $165,000 and $126,000, respectively.
Posted by: Ann | Sep 30, 2008 8:25:49 PM
I want to fight American people.
You stupd American!
razy,disability,don't want dificult dirty job.
You American-people Go to Hel!
I would hate American because,
#1. They want bollow some money as much as.
#2. They dont want dirty,difficult job..
#3. Easy money, easy job, no effort.
#4. American people have a pure and simple hart.
Posted by: byw2gether | Sep 30, 2008 8:26:05 PM
McCain choosing Palin as his running mate was enough for me to know this old man must be more insane then I originally thought he was. Who in their right mind would consider a nobody from Alaska as being this close to running the country, if McCain was elected. I was in shock for three years, after Bush was reelected for another four years, but this totally blows my mind.
Posted by: jms55 | Sep 30, 2008 8:26:54 PM
If Obama was a WHITE Guy the Polls would be showing a 70% Obama LEAD....
WAKE UP AMERICA ...
The issue is not Race but SURVIVAL!!!
Obama=Biden 08 !!!
Posted by: buddy in pa | Sep 30, 2008 8:27:16 PM
Good for you .. I don't want anyone to suffer but you can't tell me that those who own a home NOW still aren't struggling due to increases in cost of nearly everything you purchase on a daily basis!
Posted by: Sandy | Sep 30, 2008 8:27:18 PM
Byw2gether - I'd say one more bong hit and you'll be just about set for the evening ..
Posted by: Marcus | Sep 30, 2008 8:28:32 PM
Buddy in PA's survival depends solely on who a President is .. can we all say "hello" to this idiot?? He's begging for attention ..
Posted by: Brian | Sep 30, 2008 8:29:27 PM
it is the idiots that use a credit card for what they dont have money for and then pay back double-----now that they can afford
Posted by: rodney | Sep 30, 2008 8:29:27 PM
Posted by: R...the liberals are just mad and it shows....that woman has never done anything to them, and they bash her like she killed their first born....if she were an idiot like they say she is, well, if liberals were smart, they would just let her selfcom bust..but, they are ignorant of any facts , so bashing is easy for them....
Posted by: LordHelpLiberals | Sep 30, 2008 8:30:16 PM
An Acorn Falls from the Tree
ACORN has often been in the news since 2004. Officially, they work to register voters and support housing. In reality, everyone in public life knows that they are hardcore supporters for the Democratic Party, and employ bare-knuckle tactics. Their organization is plagued by repeated investigations of voter fraud and other crimes.
In Ohio, where as secretary of state I oversaw elections for eight years, ACORN has been busy. One ACORN man in Reynoldsburg was indicted on two felony counts of voter fraud, and another was indicted in Columbus. Other such problems surfaced in Cuyahoga County, where criminal investigations are ongoing.
It’s not just Ohio. ACORN personnel are facing criminal charges in over a dozen states. In Washington State, for example, seven ACORN leaders had felony charges filed against them for voter fraud.
And there’s an unexpected twist. One of the organizations accused of pushing banks into making many of the unwise loans at the heart of the current crisis is … ACORN. Now that’s ironic. An organization that possibly contributed to our current financial profits is now being considered to make money off of it. And by “money,” I’m referring to your tax money.
Twice already this year Congress has funneled money to ACORN. Some report that February’s economic stimulus included funds for ACORN, as did the bill to help people struggling with mortgages passed this April.
...
Voter fraud is in one sense the worst crime against democracy. The sole means of democratically choosing leaders is through voting. Every voter gets an equal vote. Every citizen who is a law-abiding adult has an equal voice in who will govern us. Our vote is sacred. Those engaging in voter fraud are in one sense no different than who intimidated voters at the polls in years past. Voter fraud may not be attended by the suffering that accompanied the beatings and water hoses of those days, but the assault on democracy is no less real.
ACORN is a discredited organization, and far too many of its leaders and workers have been prosecuted for felonies against democracy. The idea that a single dime of taxpayer money would ever go to such a group is an outrage.
And Mr. Obama needs to explain his involvement with them.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=N2Y5MTc0ZTAyMmE1Mjk3NGE3OWRiY2FkMjZlN2YxYzc=
Posted by: LightSeeker | Sep 30, 2008 8:30:17 PM
I'm not talking about using a credit card Rodney .. I don't!!
Posted by: Sandy | Sep 30, 2008 8:30:19 PM
Obama will be the final ruin of this country.
Posted by: Lee | Sep 30, 2008 8:31:00 PM
Sampson...it is amazing to me how they talk and rip on everyone but they don't give specifics on why Obama is the person to vote for other then because Palin is stupid. Not a good enough reason for me.
Posted by: R | Sep 30, 2008 8:31:07 PM
Obama, ACORN, and Fannie Mae: What exactly does a "community organizer" do? Barack Obama's rise has left many Americans asking themselves that question. Here's a big part of the answer: Community organizers intimidate banks into making high-risk loans to customers with poor credit (Source: Stanley Kurtz, The National Review).
What if Barack Obama’s most important radical connection has been hiding in plain sight all along? Obama has had an intimate and long-term association with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), the largest radical group in America. If I told you Obama had close ties with MoveOn.org or Code Pink, you’d know what I was talking about. ACORN is at least as radical as these better-known groups, arguably more so. Yet because ACORN works locally, in carefully selected urban areas, its national profile is lower. ACORN likes it that way. And so, I’d wager, does Barack Obama.
In the name of fairness to minorities, community organizers occupy private offices, chant inside bank lobbies, and confront executives at their homes - and thereby force financial institutions to direct hundreds of millions of dollars in mortgages to low-credit customers.
In other words, community organizers help to undermine the US economy by pushing the banking system into a sinkhole of bad loans. And Obama has spent years training and funding the organizers who do it. Read the shocking details...
Read the $700 Billion Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 bill currently in Congress.
Find out why Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are impeding Republican efforts to investigate Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Even Bill Clinton blames the democrats for obstructing efforts to investigate these corrupt institutions and their executives who stole tens of millions of taxpayer dollars.
In 2005, Sen. McCain co-sponsored a bill to tighten control of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. The bill was opposed primarily by House Democrats led by Rep. Frank Barney who wanted little control or oversight of these financial giants. Read the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 that was co-sponsored by Sen. McCain and rejected by House Democrats.
http://www. obamaunveiled. com
Posted by: Hussein_Islam_Obama | Sep 30, 2008 8:32:00 PM
How can you say that Obama is leading, when in your article you say "but in our latest poll McCain has pulled ahead by three percentage points".
Posted by: mindy davis | Sep 30, 2008 8:32:02 PM
How can you say that Obama is leading, when in your article you say "but in our latest poll McCain has pulled ahead by three percentage points".
Posted by: mindy davis | Sep 30, 2008 8:32:04 PM
then you will be fine---perhaps when all the jobs quit leaving our country we will all do a little better.
Posted by: rodney | Sep 30, 2008 8:33:01 PM
you're the one's constantly bringing up race! I didnt vote for Gore either..I'm pretty sure he is white. you can disagree with someone's politics without being a bigot.
Posted by: zeke | Sep 30, 2008 8:33:09 PM
palin has one advantage over Biden. Joe can not see Russia from Delaware...
Posted by: pt | Sep 30, 2008 8:34:10 PM
Well PT .. I bet they both can spell "cannot" - fool!
Posted by: Marcus | Sep 30, 2008 8:34:52 PM
LordHelpLiberals - I agree with you. Palin stands up for what she believes in. She may not be the MOST experienced person for the job but to me the order of experience in the McCain ticket is in a better order. And for the people who come on here to try and figure things out and make an educated vote the more posts by liberals, the more people will turn to the conservative side because they never have anything to say that isn't full of filth. And I am a very open minded person but am tired of seeing the race card played by them as well.



