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The Note: McCain Mixing Economic Messages
September 18, 2008 8:53 AM
ABC News' Rick Klein and Z. Byron Wolf report in Thursday's Note:
HARPERS FERRY, W.Va. -- It turns out the vaunted new McCain message machine can’t produce the candidate, himself, a message on the big issue of the moment. And, it turns out, even really nice lipstick smears.
This hasn't been a case of Sen. Barack Obama finding his voice as much as it's been Sen. John McCain losing his. (As for Gov. Sarah Palin -- you don’t need to see her e-mails to know that, after a while, even a hip new song gets old.)
At this snapshot in the race, there is no other issue -- not pigs, not sexism, not the surge, not anything, really, that bodes particularly well for Team McCain.
It’s 48-43 in the latest New York Times/CBS poll -- the Palin bounce bouncing right back to where we were pre-conventions.
Ditto Quinnipiac, which gives Obama a 14-point lead among women and a 49–45 lead nationwide.
Read the rest of The Note -- and get all the latest on the 2008 election, Congress, the White House and the wide world of politics every day -- from Rick Klein by bookmarking this link.
"Despite an intense effort to distance himself from the way his party has done business in Washington, Sen. John McCain is seen by voters as far less likely to bring change to Washington than Senator Barack Obama," Robin Toner and Adam Nagourney report in the Times write-up. "The latest poll indicates 'the Palin effect' was, at least so far, a limited burst of interest. ... The Times/CBS News poll suggested that Ms. Palin's selection has, to date, helped Mr. McCain only among Republican base voters; there was no evidence of significantly increased support for him among women in general."
"Economic 9/11," former Clinton chief of staff Leon Panetta tells USA Today (and which party would more happily embrace this analogy?).
The current president is doing his best Silent Cal, and today in Washington, they are battening down the hatches. President Bush canceled a trip to Alabama and Treasury officials put off testimony before the Senate Banking Committee for the second time this week.
"Once again, New York is the focus of the nation, and the amount of mass media concentrated there guarantees that this economic crisis will remain where it belongs -- at the center of attention," David Broder writes in his column. "For all the excitement Palin has generated, the national mood is still a major barrier for McCain and the Republicans."
There’s palpable concern about the economy -- Wall Street's woes reaching already demoralized places like West Virginia, where ABC's "50 States in 50 Days" tour is in town for "Good Morning America," Thursday, and far, far beyond.
Continue reading today's Note by clicking HERE.
ABC News' Hope Ditto contributed to this report.
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Your bias against McCain is ridiculous. Is this the MSNBC website?
Posted by: David | Sep 18, 2008 9:04:30 AM
Talk about mixing messages----in Elko, Nevada Obama told an audience "I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face". What is this man starting ---argue with them and "get in their face". This is not a President, this is a community organizer at work and not for a community I want to live in.
Posted by: Mike | Sep 18, 2008 9:06:01 AM
Did you see the New York Times/CBS News poll that found Obama is viewed by Americans as likely to bring about change, while McCain is seen as a “TYPICAL REPUBLICAN” who would simply continue or expand BUSH'S policies.
Evidently the “Palin effect” has worn off. Americans are not impressed that she can see Russia from Alaska. Sorry, Sarah
See the story and survey results at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/18/us/politics/18poll.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin
Posted by: John Michael | Sep 18, 2008 9:06:26 AM
Bias? McCain can't even get out of his own way. One day he's for deregulation, the next he's against it. He thinks the economy is fundamentally sound?!?!?
His train of thought isn't fundamentally sound!
Posted by: Deep Release | Sep 18, 2008 9:07:27 AM
Let's hope that Americans won't be fooled again by new GOP stunts in the two months to come.
And wow, Palin has lost her appeal VERY quickly. No remark has been more silly than that she would be the Republican Obama...
Obama is riding the waves for almost two years now, with permanent exposure, and yet yesterday 14,000 people showed up again to listen to him in Vegas.
Obama is a category and a quality of his own. He has become a chapter in American history already.
Palin's place in American history will be her 15 minutes of TV and news paper fame.
Posted by: harriet | Sep 18, 2008 9:13:11 AM
John McCain doesn't have a message because he can't be for Bush and he can't be against him. If he sounds like he's against Bush he loses the Republican base - if he sounds like he's for Bush he loses everybody else. If he speaks out against deregulation he contradicts his own record. IF the election stays on the issues he will sink further behind.
Posted by: jon in maryland | Sep 18, 2008 9:18:11 AM
Whatever else you are going to do today, don't forget "be patriotic, pay more taxes" (Biden) They need to make that one into a bumber sticker, sounds like something the British might have said, way back then. LOL
Posted by: samhiguchi | Sep 18, 2008 9:21:53 AM
Canada is talking about it but it is hush, hush in America--- Lehman Brothers: Obama’s Rezko-Auchi conflict of interest. A secret $3.5 million loan from an Auchi company to key early-money Barack Obama fundraiser Antoin Rezko was exposed while Rezko was awaiting trial on fraud and money-laundering charges earlier this year.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5076
Posted by: Ann | Sep 18, 2008 9:24:26 AM
McCain, best days are behind him!
Posted by: Lookup | Sep 18, 2008 9:25:07 AM
We can't afford four more years of neo-con rule. John McCain's message is mixed because he says what ever he thinks the country wants to hear. He has no central core of beliefs, he is just a phoney. We need leadership not butt kissing.
Posted by: Bill Olinger | Sep 18, 2008 9:26:55 AM
If McCain is only up by three in West Virgina that tells how bad the "strong economy" has gotten.
Posted by: Reagan democrats in foreclosure | Sep 18, 2008 9:28:06 AM
McCain is all about DE-regulation and has voted 100% of the time to deregulate... he is part of the reason Wallstreet has crumbled... he will NOT be able to fix the disaster he helped to create. You don't send a message to the ruling party that they need to reform by re-electing them for a third term, you kick them to the curb and give the other guy a chance to make it right.
Posted by: McBraindead | Sep 18, 2008 9:30:36 AM
No wonder McCain is mixing his messages. His main economic advisor told us our economic woes are mental. This guy also helped the big banks with lobbying for loosening the regulations that have helped this mess.
McCain's latest corproate American guru, Carly...she inflicted pain upon thousands of Americans as she outsourced their jobs overseas and laid off thousands more. She left HP is a tremendous mess while getting millions in compensation.
Another advisor is a Phillip Morris tobacco lobbiest Mccain once threw out of his office, but now calls friend.
How can we expect him to change the policies that have led to thsi economic crisis? He is being advised and financially supported by the very people who helped cause this mess. all while they are very well compensated, saved millions with the GOP tax reductions.
My friends, this is not change.
Posted by: scott jeffries | Sep 18, 2008 9:32:19 AM
GOP--
We've heard enough whining about alleged media bias. You can't control the media. Notice how they support their opinions with hard data? So, apparently the media, all polling firms, and all those polled have liberal bias, huh? Are they sexist too? Give it up. Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: John McCheatsonwife | Sep 18, 2008 9:33:07 AM
Ann, it seems the only real press that talking about Obama's dirty past are British and Canadian press, and of course our bloggers. Auchi is just a name in a long list of many and if you read some of the blogs and British and Canadian sites you will find some shocking scary stuff. If the American press would do their jobs (HAHA as if) some of the others might get a real glimpse of the REAL Barack Obama.
Posted by: samhiguchi | Sep 18, 2008 9:33:31 AM
McCain is losing it--he doesn't know Spain is in Europe, doesn't know who the head of its government is, won't even say if he'll talk to the the guy--and Palin knows even less.
We live in the world, and McCain lives in the past.
Let's not even go to what he says about the economy that clearly demonstrates he is simply not ready to be president in these troubled times.
Yet conservative spinmasters continue to tout this man as the best to lead. Give me a break. You put party loyalty before country. Shameful.
Posted by: Kitty | Sep 18, 2008 9:36:09 AM
Thank you for reporting last night on McCain's past support of deregulation, but why did you not give Obama equal time to present his policy to solve this economic crisis? Presenting only one candidate gives tacit support of that candidate. The Bush administration's policies have bankrupted Amnerica, and McCain has been a large part of them. We cannot continue them just because McCain has tapped once again into the support of the religious right. Why not go all the way back to his role in the Keating Five scandal? Finally, you have left behind the silliness of lipstick and personalities, and seem poised to actually report on the issues that matter to us; yet you only went halfway. ABC News, you are our last best hope for information that is comprehensive and objective. Please do your job!
Posted by: Toni Shaheen | Sep 18, 2008 9:39:00 AM
How is it media bias when they simply tell the truth?
You may not like it, but John McCain has behaved like an idiot over the last few days. He has demonstrated repeatedly he is out of his league.
And worst example: his pick of Palin as VP. Talk about an empty suit.
Whether you protest or not, John McCain has been dead wrong about so many things during this campaign, and his responses this week to the economic meltdown has just highlighted his incompetency.
Don't blame the media. Blame the candidate.
Posted by: Deb | Sep 18, 2008 9:39:28 AM
Both Obama and McCain talk about change, but I offer a simple challenge to both. If you are truly a man of action, substance and good moral fiber, then put your money where your mouth is and restore some level of confidence from the middle class American public by accepting my challenge: You don’t have to have a political science degree to know that neither of you can win this election without winning the vote of the middle class American, regardless of race, gender, etc. So, here's my challenge to you:
Commit publicly in your campaign to establish, within 90 days of taking office, your administration will immediately create an Ethics Committee, with the sole purpose and goal to bring to justice and punish corrupt politicians caught in their lies, illegal and immoral dealings with corporate lobbyist, and corporate executives who steal hard earned money from their employees and stockholders and taxpayers with their back-stabbing tactics and hiding or lying about facts that cause American’s to loose jobs, pensions, 401k’s, etc...
This committee would, with the solid support of your White House administration, eliminate the golden parachutes for these crooked politicians and corporate execs and instead, hand out severe fines and prison sentences. Member of this committee would be comprised of a handful of middle class American’s, chosen from all across the country, various races, age, gender, religions, ethnicities, etc. Committee member cannot make more than $200,000.00 per year/per household. Committee member would report directly to the President, but just like everyone else in Washington, be held accountable by the American public.
The laws of this country, state and local municipalities were established to in part, to seek out, capture and punish crooks who steal from others. If you can sit idle in the Oval office and turn a blind eye to criminals in political offices and corporate board rooms, then you are NOT a man of integrity, honor and accountability and you don’t deserve to run this great country.
Do you want to restore the faith of middle class American's in our elected and corporate leaders? Then take this bull by the horns, commit to the cause, back it up with the funding, and prove that you are the right person for this job. Until then, faith will be non-existent. As long as there's no accountability, oversight and jail sentence for crooked politicians and corporate execs, then we are doomed to suffer the wrath of the Same Ole Song & Dance of the last 8 years.
Even a child would know that: when the justice system stacks the odds against the criminals in double breasted suits, take away their golden parachutes, bonuses for “screwing up” and start handing out prison sentences, fines equal to the loses they caused, only then will the temptation is to do wrong be greatly reduced and the faith begins to restore itself.
So, do either of you accept this challenge to establish this Ethics Committee? It's not an essay question, so a simple yes or no will do.
- Waiting....
Posted by: Liable Execs | Sep 18, 2008 9:40:31 AM
Not to bring up old scandals for olscandals sake
but jeeez...Can you all take a look at explaining the unbelievably similar issues here with the Keating 5 questions.
Why are you all avoiding that.
the same issues with deregulation with John Mccain's support and questions of his involvement with the lobbyists "who worked the regulators" like Mccain is working the press now...as he hires those same deregulation lobbyists to write his economic policy...
seems like a GIANT elephant in the room.
Posted by: dl | Sep 18, 2008 9:40:47 AM
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