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Biden: Powell Endorsement Means 'No More Questions' About Obama's Readiness
October 19, 2008 7:57 PM
ABC News' Matt Jaffe reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., today traveled to the Pacific Northwest for a rally before 11,500 supporters in Tacoma, Wash., touting former Secretary of State Colin Powell’s endorsement of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., as the answer to any questions about Obama’s readiness to be commander in chief.
"Today we’re proud, and I mean this sincerely, very proud to add another critical voice in American public policy and military affairs for the past 25 years to the endorsement list of those who have joined endorsing our ticket, Colin Powell!” the Democratic vice-presidential nominee said as the crowd erupted. “Thank you, Colin!
“From the very beginning, this Republican party has tried to suggest that Barack Obama, Sen. Barack Obama wasn’t ready to be commander in chief,” continued Biden, who noted that he’s been friends with Powell for 25 years. “Ladies and gentlemen, with all the three and four star generals, with the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the former national security adviser, the former secretary of state, one of the most respected men who have ever worn the uniform endorsing Barack Obama over John McCain today, no more questions! Barack Obama will be a commander in chief we can all respect!”
On the same day Obama received the endorsement of Powell, a Republican and former member of the Bush administration, Biden noted that the Democratic presidential candidate's proposal on Iraq has earned the support of President Bush, leaving McCain “the odd man out.”
“George Bush, after six painful years, has finally figured out it's time to transfer responsibility to the Iraqis, draw down American forces,” said the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations committee. “Well, guess what? George Bush is about to sign an agreement with the Iraqi leadership saying we'll have all combat troops out of the cities in Iraq within seven months, and we'll have all troops out of Iraq by Dec. 31, 2009. So folks, folks, John McCain talks about leadership. Let me remind you. Whose idea was that? Barack Obama's. John McCain's the only odd man out now, along with Gov. Palin.”
But the draft of the Status of Forces Agreement calls for U.S. troops to be out of Iraq by Dec. 31, 2011.
Speaking at Cheney Stadium, home of the Seattle Mariners’ Triple-A farm team Tacoma Rainiers, Biden said that Democrats were “temporarily changing the name from Cheney Stadium to Obama-Biden Stadium for the day.”
“Besides, if it was Cheney Stadium, we’d be at an undisclosed location.” Biden quipped in a dig at the man he hopes to replace as vice-president. “You’d never be able to find us.”
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OBAMA = LEADER
McCAIN = FAIL
Posted by: Ed from MA | Oct 19, 2008 8:10:51 PM
HAHAHAHAHA, LAUGHABLE!
Posted by: demRnuts | Oct 19, 2008 8:13:09 PM
Obama gets cold reception in NC diner
Woman shouts 'socialist, get out of here' at Obama
by Christi Parsons
FAYETTEVILLE, N.C.--The Crown Coliseum had been full of Barack Obama's cheering fans.
The after-church lunch crowd at Cape Fear BBQ and Chicken was less hospitable to the Democrat.
According to the pool reporter at the lunch stop, the barbecue joint was filled with dozens of older and mostly white diners.
As Obama walked in, a woman at the other end of the restaurant, a woman began shouting at him.
"Socialist, socialist, socialist!" said Diane Fanning, 54, a Sam's Club employee. "Get out of here."
There was a lot of noise and excitement and positive reception as well and it was unclear whether Obama heard her, writes pool reporter Margaret Talev, of McClatchy Newspapers.
But there was no disputing the animosity later, when Obama tried to shake Fanning's hand. She refused the gesture.
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/10/obamas_a_socialist_woman_shout.html
WEL, WELL BARRY! IT LOOKS LIKE MONEY CAN'T BUY YOU LOVE IN NC..HAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Posted by: southern hospitality | Oct 19, 2008 8:15:04 PM
Biden Says Obama Not Ready for Presidency
http://writenow.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/biden-says-obama-not-ready-for-presidency/
'nuff said!
Posted by: romeISburning | Oct 19, 2008 8:17:06 PM
What a joke Joe. The credibility of Collin Powell has been lost. Throughout Mr. Powell’s career he espoused Moderate Republican values similar to that of John McCain. I would have voted for Colin Powell had he run for President. To support a man with such inexperience, questionable integrity and above all the most liberal member of congress is eye opening and appalling. It proves that many educated blacks are making race the sole issue in the election. Mr. Powell's primary reason was McCain's VP choice and his ability to non supreme count justices. The VP candidate has more executive experience than Mr. Hussein. The court nom would be moderates as that is what McCain is and Mr. Powell has previouslt puported to be. Hussein's nom would be radical left wing liberals. Mr. Powell’s stance and detest on gays in the military will have to be explained by Obama but he will be able to back track on this issue as on so many others. The Canadians can attest to Obama’s rhetoric regarding NAFTA and his closed door meeting to assure them he would not raise the issue after the election. The gullible American electorate as they are referred to will not bring the issue up as economic issue remains forefront of the election and trying to tie McCain’s policies to Bush. The fact that Bush has turned out to be a liberal democrat when it comes to spending and Obama wants to continue these policies has been deflected. The cause of the economic meltdown was created largely from liberal congress members voting records and
Posted by: jamesferrel | Oct 19, 2008 8:18:08 PM
FNMA policies that Obama indirectly supported through work as an attorney representing ACORN. Applications for new bank branches were held up in court unless they were built in downtrodden neighborhoods. His voting record during his two years in congress also support actions that harmed prudent lending standards. Sportsman and gun owners also beware. Look at Obama and Biden wwwGunBanObama.com
Posted by: jamesferrel | Oct 19, 2008 8:19:54 PM
southern hospitality?; sounds more like unspeakable rudeness, both from the woman in the diner for shouting at sen. obama and refusing to shake a hand, and from you, for thinking that it was funny and that it showed obama getting what i suspect you think was his 'comeuppance'. shame on both of you...
Posted by: antijake | Oct 19, 2008 8:32:54 PM
8 more years! 8 years was not enough! We want MORE! Vote Republican. 8 more years!
Posted by: pefros | Oct 19, 2008 8:33:46 PM
What qualifies Joe Biden to make that statement? Being an alcoholic, and an ignorant gaffe machine. The only reason Colin Powell endorsed Barack Obama is because of race and color, not because Obama is qualified and experienced.
Posted by: Diana in California | Oct 19, 2008 8:39:26 PM
'Obama gets cold reception in NC diner'
At least he is man enough to go into republican strongholds and ask for votes.
McCain & Palin will never go anywhere uncomfortable or unscripted
Posted by: watching | Oct 19, 2008 8:39:56 PM
No. Not by a longshot Joe the Senator.
Sen. Obama, experience matters. I have made many mistakes in my short life. It is true, when I think about it, that each of those mistakes are among my greatest assets with respect to decision making, each and every one of them. This is because we all learn from our mistakes. At all times, I believe the best of my judgment is anchored in the cement that is my experience. I believe firmly that the longer I live, the more I will have experienced, and the better my judgment will be, on the balance. Sen. Obama, do you really believe that you have made enough mistakes to be the next President of the United States? Many say that what you won't make the same mistakes that others have because of your sound judgement (ie, your choice of pastor). The only thing, Senator, is that there still remain many mistakes yet to be written into this planet's history books. You won't always have the benefit of others experience, you'll have to leverage your own experience and you have too little on which to base your judgement. I respect your ambition. I respect your charisma. I embrace your place in history, but I do not believe you have sufficient experience to lead this planet, not even close.
America, since the mainstream media has failed to examine Sen. Obama’s experience and lack of experience, you will have to determine for yourselves what exactly is Sen. Obama’s experience? What did he accomplish in the Illinois legislature? He was only there for a handful of years. What did he promise he would accomplish? What did he accomplish in the U.S. Senate? He has only been on the job as a U.S. Senator for 1xx days. What did he promise he would accomplish? What has he changed in this world? This country? The Presidency of the United States is an executive position Sen. Obama. Do you have any executive experience? Have you created a budget, negotiated a budget, revised a budget or managed adherence to a budget?
Sen. Obama insists on presenting Sen. McCain’s experience as being only an puppet of the Bush administration. I saw Senator McCain stand up to President Bush’s Defense Secretary. He stood in a manner that no other did. He changed the course of the war in Iraq. What percentage of all GOP legislative votes sided with President Bush’s? What percentage of all Democrat legislative votes sided with Presidents Clinton, Carter and Johnson’s policies? I have no idea, but I’d venture to guess that, had the media presented that information to the American public, we’d find rank and file partisanship throughout our recent history. How many Americans would be surprise by that?
Well Senator Obama, you might be able to claim that you did not support the Iraq war resolution, but what can you offer as proof that it was the right decision at that moment in our history? You were after all in the small minority. Our country was after all reeling from the worst terror attack in our nation’s history. How would history have judged President Bush had he not led our troops into Iraq and then, a massive terror attack occurred yesterday, perpetrated by terrorists that lived and trained in Iraq over the past few years, with or without knowledge of Saddam Hussein? I think about it this way: history failed to present enough evidence to push the World to coalesce and intervene in 1930s Europe. But modern history is 100% clear on that point, it would have been the correct decision. History might well judge the Iraq war to be not a right decision. History will judge the Bush administration on many points. One of those may even record it, in part, as a series of lapses in the judgment of a young President, swayed by the belief and conviction of an older, seasoned Vice President and the overwhelming circumstances of a world that had changed dramatically, in an instant. I agree with you Sen. Obama that we don't need another eight years of the Bush Administration, we dont need another eight years of an inexperienced President.
Mr. Gibson, Ms. Couric, Ms. Behar, Ms. Mitchell, Mr. Matthews ... you do not get to dismantle the American vote. You and your colleagues might think you have the power to micro-filter democracy’s messages to your liking, but you do not get to dismantle the American vote. You might think you have the power to subtly, and not so subtly promote and gather others to blindly promote one candidacy, while casting another in the least flattering manner possible, but you do not get to dismantle the American vote. You do not get to dismantle America’s vote. The mainstream media bias in this election is at best described as repugnant and at worst, a slap to the face of democracy; an assault on the moral and righteous ideal that all American voters should be free to construct their vote on the basis of readily available, factually complete, accurate, relevant and unbiased fact. It is my opinion that, during this election cycle more than any other I have witnessed, the mainstream media has failed millions of American’s who rely on them, as a basis for constructing their vote. Am I wrong? I might be wrong, but I’ll ask you, the American voters to decide that for yourself, by asking yourself some questions. Questions such as why was so much time spent this election cycle mining for dirt in Alaska, why was so little time was spent tracking laundry in Illinois? Why has the mainstream media spent so little time illuminating the razor thin experience that the junior Senator from Illinois maintains as his credentials? Indeed, if the media was prepared to be fair and honest, they would have been able to report, with incontrovertible confidence, that they were reporting fact, that the candidate having the most experience directly relevant to the position of the Presidency of the United States is actually the candidate that has been relentlessly attacked by the media, both personally and professionally. The mainstream media owes an apology to American Democracy for its treatment of Gov. Palin. Why is it, that after finally deciding to give minimal airtime to the ACORN voter registration fraud issue, was it not mentioned that Sen. Obama’s campaign funded ACORN? Sen. Obama, in my mind, there is no distinction between committing voter registration fraud, serving as impetus to commit voter registration fraud or funding those serving as impetus to commit voter registration fraud. During the last debate, you did a fine job of distancing yourself from ACORN, but you failed to directly confront and condemn those that perpetrate or encourage voter registration fraud. You had a nationwide audience, and you chose not to act.
The President is the commander in chief of the United States Armed Forces. That is a serious responsibility. I question how you can expect us to believe that you will effectively maintain the morale, skill and competence of our forces after you have insulted them (I have a friend that is an Army Reservist. He is deploying, again, to Iraq. He has a wife, a son and a daughter. He does not serve so that he can kill children and raid villages Senator). What will serve as your experiential basis for leading the U.S. Military? Do you have any military experience at all? Have you ever served in ROTC? Did you at least play with the little green plastic troops when you lived in Hawaii? Do you know firsthand the horrors of war? I believe that firsthand knowledge and experience is the most critical element one can use in formulating decisions, including the determination of when to and when not to deploy U.S. Military forces. Sen. McCain has that experience. That I know. That he has shown. The media can’t take that away from him.
With regard to foreign policy experience, do you think you are qualified to navigate the most powerful democracy the world knows during a time when the fundamentals of democracy are very much under attack? Are you ready to face Mr. Putin? Mr. Chavez? Kim Jung mentally Ill? China? Iran? Are you ready to answer the 03:00 phone call? What experience do you have that I should judge gives you readiness? What is that experience? What foreign leaders have you negotiated with directly? What treaties have you signed? The media has presented none and neither have you. I have a good number of stamps in my passport Sen. Obama. I lived and worked in Germany for a brief period. Sen. Obama, I am not qualified by a longshot to make United States foreign policy, and you may only be marginally more qualified than I.
The oratorical is no substitute for judgment or experience Senator Obama. I do not believe that you have the experience to be President of our country. Experience matters Sen. Obama, and you are not ready, you have not made enough mistakes. But most glaring to me, Senator Obama is the one mistake that you seem willing to make over and over and it is the worst mistake one can make. That mistake is the action of not owning and learning from one’s mistakes. The surge worked Senator.
Sen. Obama, you claim that you will cut taxes on 95% of all Americans. Is that true? Or let me rephrase, how can that be true? You told the voters of Illinois that you would cut taxes, but you have failed to do so in the U.S. Senate. Did you even try? Did you present a bill? Were it a committee issue did you encourage your peers to present one? Have you ever voted for a tax cut? What did you mean Senator Obama when you told Plumber Joe that you wanted to spread the wealth? Do you mean that you want to take money from Joe and give it to those with less money? Your running mate, Sen. Biden has commented that you would not be taxing additionaly those making under $250,000 a year. Sen. Biden commented that he knows no plumbers that make over $250,000 a year. I think that those who claim your tax policies embody class warfare are wrong. Wrong, because the policies are class warfare policies, but they are not directed against the haves, they are directed against the have-nots. Senator Biden, you may well be correct that few plumbers earn over $250,000 a year, but some that own plumbing contracting businesses probably do. What do those that spin your message have planned to say to that one plumber out of maybe six or seven that was employed by a plumbing company, but was laid off, because business is slow, new homes weren’t being built and President Obama’s tax increase forced the owner of the plumbing business to lay her off? The owner tried every angle possible, but was forced to make a tough decision. They were faced with the prospect of either making a tough decision or risk running the entire operation into financial distress and end up having to close operations and fire all workers? I guess you’d have Mr. Burton tell her that, even though she has no job, she does at least still have access to affordable healthcare? Senator Obama what will you say to the still unemployed plumber in Ohio, father of two, that nearly had a job secured, the owner had just signed a good contract for a small building and he was ready to hire that plumber, but learned from his accountant, that President Obama’s, Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid's tax increase has made it not possible to hire another employee? I guess you’d have Mr. Burton tell that plumber, that even though he still has no job, he does have a lower tax rate applied against his $0.00 income.
Sen. Obama, you have stated over and over that Sen. McCain supports tax breaks for corporations that send their jobs overseas. The media has not reported on this one way or another, but if you are correct, then I commend Sen. McCain for doing so. What you don’t get, Sen. Obama, or perhaps don’t want the American public to get, is that income taxes, to a for profit enterprise are expenses not much different from the costs of raw materials and salary expenses for purposes of this discussion. All else equal, ladies and gentleman, a corporation will locate itself, and its jobs, or begin to locate itself and its jobs, in areas where it is least penalized in terms of taxes. This is how for profit American corporations behave and this is how they must behave. Their competitors are operating in that manner, continually scouring expenses to search for reduction opportunities. They have to. If they do not, they will be at a cost disadvantage and if their tactical errors are sustained, they may well go out of business in which case, even those jobs which remain in the United States, could also disappear. Even if the company does not fail entirely, some jobs may be eliminated, and chances are great that the highest cost jobs would be targeted first. Sen. Obama, America is not a low cost country, in these circumstances, high cost American jobs would be targeted first, all else equal. When those jobs are cut Sen. Obama, those finding themselves newly unemployed will not have money to support the 'under $250k' crowd...they won't have money to support small businesses...is it sinking in at all?
Your position of not supporting tax breaks for corporations that export jobs overseas, indeed, only encourages them, at the margin, to further export jobs, or slow their job creation in the United States or end their job creation in the United States. This is global economic reality. The media can not distort this fact for you. At the final debate, I heard you add a carrot to your plans. You pulled that same tax string attached to the back of your head and out came the message your handlers have planted in you, that message you think the voters want to hear. I was laughing a bit, but if I understand you correctly, you’ll give tax credits to corporations that create jobs in America. In case you don’t know Senator Obama, this already happens today at the state and local level all across America. Have you thought about how much additionaly, it will cost the U.S. Treasury to employ workers, in an audit fashion, in order to verify which of all the xx million jobs that corporations claim they created, were actually created or do actually exist? What are the time constraints? How long must they keep the job filled in order to receive the credit? What would happen when that timeframe passes? Let me point this out to my fellow voters. Senator Obama wants to first keep tax rates on corporations high or raise them – thereby encouraging employers large and small to export their operations and jobs - and then at the same time he wants to turnaround and give them a tax credit for jobs they create? Senator, or maybe I should be addressing your advisers, you do realize that the two are policy opposites don’t you? It looks to me that you might be trying to convince us that it would be a good idea to spend more on government for an unknown expected net job decrease/increase. If you can convince us that those are winning policies Senator Obama, then I’d suggest you save us all some trouble, sell the American voters a bridge to nowhere and retire, pen some books, give some speeches. Indeed, your tax policy is bigger government, bigger IRS, more regulatory burden on American corporations and more administrative overhead makes them less competitive in the global market and less likely to employ. It is not the right policy Senator Obama, not by a long shot.
Go back to the Senate and accomplish something Sen. Obama. Your candidacy is an insult to America.
ps, the verdict has been in for decades on the effectiveness of spreading the wealth policies. Go visit an American Indian Reservation Sen. Obama. The only thing that has changed for the past several decades is the faces of the Washington politicians that have redistributed wealth to us. Do you have any clue what the average unemployment rate is in Indian Country Sen.Obama? Illicit drug use rate? Teen pregnancy rate? Suicide rate? Pick a rate Senator.
Posted by: 0bama ; 0experience ; 8 more years of Bush | Oct 19, 2008 8:41:17 PM
It is pathetic to see the user comments on Fox News about Powell's endorsement of Obama. They keep character attacks to Obama or call Powell's support based on race. What nobody there can do is object in any way the absolute concise truth about the reasons for his decision. The summarized the American sentiment about McCain's erratic and negative campaign, about the resurgence of polarization in the GOP. Obama's vision of ONE America are still the same we heard in his keynote speech at the Democratic Convention in 2004. Find it in You tube.
Posted by: Charles | Oct 19, 2008 8:43:18 PM
No. Not by a longshot.
Sen. Obama, experience matters. I have made many mistakes in my short life. It is true, when I think about it, that each of those mistakes are among my greatest assets with respect to decision making, each and every one of them. This is because we all learn from our mistakes. At all times, I believe the best of my judgment is anchored in the cement that is my experience. I believe firmly that the longer I live, the more I will have experienced, and the better my judgment will be, on the balance. Sen. Obama, do you really believe that you have made enough mistakes to be the next President of the United States? Many say that what you won't make the same mistakes that others have because of your sound judgement (ie, your choice of pastor). The only thing, Senator, is that there still remain many mistakes yet to be written into this planet's history books. You won't always have the benefit of others experience, you'll have to leverage your own experience and you have too little on which to base your judgement. I respect your ambition. I respect your charisma. I embrace your place in history, but I do not believe you have sufficient experience to lead this planet, not even close.
America, since the mainstream media has failed to examine Sen. Obama’s experience and lack of experience, you will have to determine for yourselves what exactly is Sen. Obama’s experience? What did he accomplish in the Illinois legislature? He was only there for a handful of years. What did he promise he would accomplish? What did he accomplish in the U.S. Senate? He has only been on the job as a U.S. Senator for 1xx days. What did he promise he would accomplish? What has he changed in this world? This country? The Presidency of the United States is an executive position Sen. Obama. Do you have any executive experience? Have you created a budget, negotiated a budget, revised a budget or managed adherence to a budget?
Sen. Obama insists on presenting Sen. McCain’s experience as being only an puppet of the Bush administration. I saw Senator McCain stand up to President Bush’s Defense Secretary. He stood in a manner that no other did. He changed the course of the war in Iraq. What percentage of all GOP legislative votes sided with President Bush’s? What percentage of all Democrat legislative votes sided with Presidents Clinton, Carter and Johnson’s policies? I have no idea, but I’d venture to guess that, had the media presented that information to the American public, we’d find rank and file partisanship throughout our recent history. How many Americans would be surprise by that?
Well Senator Obama, you might be able to claim that you did not support the Iraq war resolution, but what can you offer as proof that it was the right decision at that moment in our history? You were after all in the small minority. Our country was after all reeling from the worst terror attack in our nation’s history. How would history have judged President Bush had he not led our troops into Iraq and then, a massive terror attack occurred yesterday, perpetrated by terrorists that lived and trained in Iraq over the past few years, with or without knowledge of Saddam Hussein? I think about it this way: history failed to present enough evidence to push the World to coalesce and intervene in 1930s Europe. But modern history is 100% clear on that point, it would have been the correct decision. History might well judge the Iraq war to be not a right decision. History will judge the Bush administration on many points. One of those may even record it, in part, as a series of lapses in the judgment of a young President, swayed by the belief and conviction of an older, seasoned Vice President and the overwhelming circumstances of a world that had changed dramatically, in an instant. I agree with you Sen. Obama that we don't need another eight years of the Bush Administration, we dont need another eight years of an inexperienced President.
Mr. Gibson, Ms. Couric, Ms. Behar, Ms. Mitchell, Mr. Matthews ... you do not get to dismantle the American vote. You and your colleagues might think you have the power to micro-filter democracy’s messages to your liking, but you do not get to dismantle the American vote. You might think you have the power to subtly, and not so subtly promote and gather others to blindly promote one candidacy, while casting another in the least flattering manner possible, but you do not get to dismantle the American vote. You do not get to dismantle America’s vote. The mainstream media bias in this election is at best described as repugnant and at worst, a slap to the face of democracy; an assault on the moral and righteous ideal that all American voters should be free to construct their vote on the basis of readily available, factually complete, accurate, relevant and unbiased fact. It is my opinion that, during this election cycle more than any other I have witnessed, the mainstream media has failed millions of American’s who rely on them, as a basis for constructing their vote. Am I wrong? I might be wrong, but I’ll ask you, the American voters to decide that for yourself, by asking yourself some questions. Questions such as why was so much time spent this election cycle mining for dirt in Alaska, why was so little time was spent tracking laundry in Illinois? Why has the mainstream media spent so little time illuminating the razor thin experience that the junior Senator from Illinois maintains as his credentials? Indeed, if the media was prepared to be fair and honest, they would have been able to report, with incontrovertible confidence, that they were reporting fact, that the candidate having the most experience directly relevant to the position of the Presidency of the United States is actually the candidate that has been relentlessly attacked by the media, both personally and professionally. The mainstream media owes an apology to American Democracy for its treatment of Gov. Palin. Why is it, that after finally deciding to give minimal airtime to the ACORN voter registration fraud issue, was it not mentioned that Sen. Obama’s campaign funded ACORN? Sen. Obama, in my mind, there is no distinction between committing voter registration fraud, serving as impetus to commit voter registration fraud or funding those serving as impetus to commit voter registration fraud. During the last debate, you did a fine job of distancing yourself from ACORN, but you failed to directly confront and condemn those that perpetrate or encourage voter registration fraud. You had a nationwide audience, and you chose not to act.
The President is the commander in chief of the United States Armed Forces. That is a serious responsibility. I question how you can expect us to believe that you will effectively maintain the morale, skill and competence of our forces after you have insulted them (I have a friend that is an Army Reservist. He is deploying, again, to Iraq. He has a wife, a son and a daughter. He does not serve so that he can kill children and raid villages Senator). What will serve as your experiential basis for leading the U.S. Military? Do you have any military experience at all? Have you ever served in ROTC? Did you at least play with the little green plastic troops when you lived in Hawaii? Do you know firsthand the horrors of war? I believe that firsthand knowledge and experience is the most critical element one can use in formulating decisions, including the determination of when to and when not to deploy U.S. Military forces. Sen. McCain has that experience. That I know. That he has shown. The media can’t take that away from him.
With regard to foreign policy experience, do you think you are qualified to navigate the most powerful democracy the world knows during a time when the fundamentals of democracy are very much under attack? Are you ready to face Mr. Putin? Mr. Chavez? Kim Jung mentally Ill? China? Iran? Are you ready to answer the 03:00 phone call? What experience do you have that I should judge gives you readiness? What is that experience? What foreign leaders have you negotiated with directly? What treaties have you signed? The media has presented none and neither have you. I have a good number of stamps in my passport Sen. Obama. I lived and worked in Germany for a brief period. Sen. Obama, I am not qualified by a longshot to make United States foreign policy, and you may only be marginally more qualified than I.
The oratorical is no substitute for judgment or experience Senator Obama. I do not believe that you have the experience to be President of our country. Experience matters Sen. Obama, and you are not ready, you have not made enough mistakes. But most glaring to me, Senator Obama is the one mistake that you seem willing to make over and over and it is the worst mistake one can make. That mistake is the action of not owning and learning from one’s mistakes. The surge worked Senator.
Sen. Obama, you claim that you will cut taxes on 95% of all Americans. Is that true? Or let me rephrase, how can that be true? You told the voters of Illinois that you would cut taxes, but you have failed to do so in the U.S. Senate. Did you even try? Did you present a bill? Were it a committee issue did you encourage your peers to present one? Have you ever voted for a tax cut? What did you mean Senator Obama when you told Plumber Joe that you wanted to spread the wealth? Do you mean that you want to take money from Joe and give it to those with less money? Your running mate, Sen. Biden has commented that you would not be taxing additionaly those making under $250,000 a year. Sen. Biden commented that he knows no plumbers that make over $250,000 a year. I think that those who claim your tax policies embody class warfare are wrong. Wrong, because the policies are class warfare policies, but they are not directed against the haves, they are directed against the have-nots. Senator Biden, you may well be correct that few plumbers earn over $250,000 a year, but some that own plumbing contracting businesses probably do. What do those that spin your message have planned to say to that one plumber out of maybe six or seven that was employed by a plumbing company, but was laid off, because business is slow, new homes weren’t being built and President Obama’s tax increase forced the owner of the plumbing business to lay her off? The owner tried every angle possible, but was forced to make a tough decision. They were faced with the prospect of either making a tough decision or risk running the entire operation into financial distress and end up having to close operations and fire all workers? I guess you’d have Mr. Burton tell her that, even though she has no job, she does at least still have access to affordable healthcare? Senator Obama what will you say to the still unemployed plumber in Ohio, father of two, that nearly had a job secured, the owner had just signed a good contract for a small building and he was ready to hire that plumber, but learned from his accountant, that President Obama’s, Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid's tax increase has made it not possible to hire another employee? I guess you’d have Mr. Burton tell that plumber, that even though he still has no job, he does have a lower tax rate applied against his $0.00 income.
Sen. Obama, you have stated over and over that Sen. McCain supports tax breaks for corporations that send their jobs overseas. The media has not reported on this one way or another, but if you are correct, then I commend Sen. McCain for doing so. What you don’t get, Sen. Obama, or perhaps don’t want the American public to get, is that income taxes, to a for profit enterprise are expenses not much different from the costs of raw materials and salary expenses for purposes of this discussion. All else equal, ladies and gentleman, a corporation will locate itself, and its jobs, or begin to locate itself and its jobs, in areas where it is least penalized in terms of taxes. This is how for profit American corporations behave and this is how they must behave. Their competitors are operating in that manner, continually scouring expenses to search for reduction opportunities. They have to. If they do not, they will be at a cost disadvantage and if their tactical errors are sustained, they may well go out of business in which case, even those jobs which remain in the United States, could also disappear. Even if the company does not fail entirely, some jobs may be eliminated, and chances are great that the highest cost jobs would be targeted first. Sen. Obama, America is not a low cost country, in these circumstances, high cost American jobs would be targeted first, all else equal. When those jobs are cut Sen. Obama, those finding themselves newly unemployed will not have money to support the 'under $250k' crowd...they won't have money to support small businesses...is it sinking in at all?
Your position of not supporting tax breaks for corporations that export jobs overseas, indeed, only encourages them, at the margin, to further export jobs, or slow their job creation in the United States or end their job creation in the United States. This is global economic reality. The media can not distort this fact for you. At the final debate, I heard you add a carrot to your plans. You pulled that same tax string attached to the back of your head and out came the message your handlers have planted in you, that message you think the voters want to hear. I was laughing a bit, but if I understand you correctly, you’ll give tax credits to corporations that create jobs in America. In case you don’t know Senator Obama, this already happens today at the state and local level all across America. Have you thought about how much additionaly, it will cost the U.S. Treasury to employ workers, in an audit fashion, in order to verify which of all the xx million jobs that corporations claim they created, were actually created or do actually exist? What are the time constraints? How long must they keep the job filled in order to receive the credit? What would happen when that timeframe passes? Let me point this out to my fellow voters. Senator Obama wants to first keep tax rates on corporations high or raise them – thereby encouraging employers large and small to export their operations and jobs - and then at the same time he wants to turnaround and give them a tax credit for jobs they create? Senator, or maybe I should be addressing your advisers, you do realize that the two are policy opposites don’t you? It looks to me that you might be trying to convince us that it would be a good idea to spend more on government for an unknown expected net job decrease/increase. If you can convince us that those are winning policies Senator Obama, then I’d suggest you save us all some trouble, sell the American voters a bridge to nowhere and retire, pen some books, give some speeches. Indeed, your tax policy is bigger government, bigger IRS, more regulatory burden on American corporations and more administrative overhead makes them less competitive in the global market and less likely to employ. It is not the right policy Senator Obama, not by a long shot.
Go back to the Senate and accomplish something Sen. Obama. Your candidacy is an insult to America.
ps, the verdict has been in for decades on the effectiveness of spreading the wealth policies. Go visit an American Indian Reservation Sen. Obama. The only thing that has changed for the past several decades is the faces of the Washington politicians that have redistributed wealth to us. Do you have any clue what the average unemployment rate is in Indian Country Sen.Obama? Illicit drug use rate? Teen pregnancy rate? Suicide rate? Pick a rate Senator.
Posted by: Obama = 0 experience = 8 more years of Bush | Oct 19, 2008 8:44:01 PM
Obama Broke Illinois Ethics Laws As A State Legislator
Apparently, on Obama’s released tax records, he discloses income from speaking fees. The problem? Accepting payment for speaking fees when you’re a legislator is against Illinois state law.
Apparently, as an Illinois state legislator through 2004, Barack was prohibited from taking honoraria for speaking under the Illinois Governmental Ethics Act.
But what about Barack Obama’s 2000 and 2002 tax returns?
2000: On his 2000 Schedule C-EZ, Barack reported that he received $16,500 as a “Foundation director/Educational speaker.”
2001: On his 2001 Schedule C-EZ, Barack reported $98,158 from a Chicago law firm, Miner, Barnhill, for “Legal services/attorney” (and nothing for speaking)
2002: On his 2002 Schedule C, Barack reported $34,491 for “LEGAL SERVCES / SPEAKING FEES.”
These “speaking fees” are in addition to the amounts that Barack was paid as an employee, a lecturer at the University of Chicago, reported on the first page of his 1040s.
That’s not change we can believe in.
Just to sum up, the media can find Joe the Plumber’s tax woes within 24 hours of his having dared to question The One’s narrative, but they can’t find a clear ethical violation in the released records of a man who has been campaigning for President for two years now.
Another truth-telling moment brought to you by our fair and objective news media.
Posted by: LightSeeker | Oct 19, 2008 8:44:19 PM
But it opens questions about his true stance on the war!!!! Obama said he loathed the war...that supporting it shows a lack of judgment. He then picks Biden who voted for the war, and now he is "basking in the glow" of an endorsement from one of the Bush henchmen that sold the war. Anyone remember that Powell report on Saddam getting uranium from another country?
Also - Powell and Sam Nunn colluded to block Clinton's plan to end the ban on gays and lesbians in the military. Powell was adamant that it should not happen.
OBAMA = more of the same!
Unhappy liberal....
Posted by: Tommy | Oct 19, 2008 8:45:39 PM
The Republicans have already been busy redistributing the wealth for the past 8 years.
They've been helping redistribute money from the lower and middle income groups to the top 5% of the filthy rich.
Seems fair, heh? Republican redistribution of wealth to the top 5%.
8 more year! 8 was not enough! We want MORE! Vote Republican! 8 more years!
Posted by: pefros | Oct 19, 2008 8:47:04 PM
DIANA, IT IS SO CLEAR TO SEE THAT YOU ARE A RACIST MEAN SPIRITED PERSON. I BET YOU ONLY HAVE A GED? OR MAYBE NOT
Posted by: tiff | Oct 19, 2008 8:47:32 PM
No. Not by a longshot.
Sen. Obama, experience matters. I have made many mistakes in my short life. It is true, when I think about it, that each of those mistakes are among my greatest assets with respect to decision making, each and every one of them. This is because we all learn from our mistakes. At all times, I believe the best of my judgment is anchored in the cement that is my experience. I believe firmly that the longer I live, the more I will have experienced, and the better my judgment will be, on the balance. Sen. Obama, do you really believe that you have made enough mistakes to be the next President of the United States? Many say that what you won't make the same mistakes that others have because of your sound judgement (ie, your choice of pastor). The only thing, Senator, is that there still remain many mistakes yet to be written into this planet's history books. You won't always have the benefit of others experience, you'll have to leverage your own experience and you have too little on which to base your judgement. I respect your ambition. I respect your charisma. I embrace your place in history, but I do not believe you have sufficient experience to lead this planet, not even close.
America, since the mainstream media has failed to examine Sen. Obama’s experience and lack of experience, you will have to determine for yourselves what exactly is Sen. Obama’s experience? What did he accomplish in the Illinois legislature? He was only there for a handful of years. What did he promise he would accomplish? What did he accomplish in the U.S. Senate? He has only been on the job as a U.S. Senator for 1xx days. What did he promise he would accomplish? What has he changed in this world? This country? The Presidency of the United States is an executive position Sen. Obama. Do you have any executive experience? Have you created a budget, negotiated a budget, revised a budget or managed adherence to a budget?
Sen. Obama insists on presenting Sen. McCain’s experience as being only an puppet of the Bush administration. I saw Senator McCain stand up to President Bush’s Defense Secretary. He stood in a manner that no other did. He changed the course of the war in Iraq. What percentage of all GOP legislative votes sided with President Bush’s? What percentage of all Democrat legislative votes sided with Presidents Clinton, Carter and Johnson’s policies? I have no idea, but I’d venture to guess that, had the media presented that information to the American public, we’d find rank and file partisanship throughout our recent history. How many Americans would be surprise by that?
Well Senator Obama, you might be able to claim that you did not support the Iraq war resolution, but what can you offer as proof that it was the right decision at that moment in our history? You were after all in the small minority. Our country was after all reeling from the worst terror attack in our nation’s history. How would history have judged President Bush had he not led our troops into Iraq and then, a massive terror attack occurred yesterday, perpetrated by terrorists that lived and trained in Iraq over the past few years, with or without knowledge of Saddam Hussein? I think about it this way: history failed to present enough evidence to push the World to coalesce and intervene in 1930s Europe. But modern history is 100% clear on that point, it would have been the correct decision. History might well judge the Iraq war to be not a right decision. History will judge the Bush administration on many points. One of those may even record it, in part, as a series of lapses in the judgment of a young President, swayed by the belief and conviction of an older, seasoned Vice President and the overwhelming circumstances of a world that had changed dramatically, in an instant. I agree with you Sen. Obama that we don't need another eight years of the Bush Administration, we dont need another eight years of an inexperienced President.
Mr. Gibson, Ms. Couric, Ms. Behar, Ms. Mitchell, Mr. Matthews ... you do not get to dismantle the American vote. You and your colleagues might think you have the power to micro-filter democracy’s messages to your liking, but you do not get to dismantle the American vote. You might think you have the power to subtly, and not so subtly promote and gather others to blindly promote one candidacy, while casting another in the least flattering manner possible, but you do not get to dismantle the American vote. You do not get to dismantle America’s vote. The mainstream media bias in this election is at best described as repugnant and at worst, a slap to the face of democracy; an assault on the moral and righteous ideal that all American voters should be free to construct their vote on the basis of readily available, factually complete, accurate, relevant and unbiased fact. It is my opinion that, during this election cycle more than any other I have witnessed, the mainstream media has failed millions of American’s who rely on them, as a basis for constructing their vote. Am I wrong? I might be wrong, but I’ll ask you, the American voters to decide that for yourself, by asking yourself some questions. Questions such as why was so much time spent this election cycle mining for dirt in Alaska, why was so little time was spent tracking laundry in Illinois? Why has the mainstream media spent so little time illuminating the razor thin experience that the junior Senator from Illinois maintains as his credentials? Indeed, if the media was prepared to be fair and honest, they would have been able to report, with incontrovertible confidence, that they were reporting fact, that the candidate having the most experience directly relevant to the position of the Presidency of the United States is actually the candidate that has been relentlessly attacked by the media, both personally and professionally. The mainstream media owes an apology to American Democracy for its treatment of Gov. Palin. Why is it, that after finally deciding to give minimal airtime to the ACORN voter registration fraud issue, was it not mentioned that Sen. Obama’s campaign funded ACORN? Sen. Obama, in my mind, there is no distinction between committing voter registration fraud, serving as impetus to commit voter registration fraud or funding those serving as impetus to commit voter registration fraud. During the last debate, you did a fine job of distancing yourself from ACORN, but you failed to directly confront and condemn those that perpetrate or encourage voter registration fraud. You had a nationwide audience, and you chose not to act.
The President is the commander in chief of the United States Armed Forces. That is a serious responsibility. I question how you can expect us to believe that you will effectively maintain the morale, skill and competence of our forces after you have insulted them (I have a friend that is an Army Reservist. He is deploying, again, to Iraq. He has a wife, a son and a daughter. He does not serve so that he can kill children and raid villages Senator). What will serve as your experiential basis for leading the U.S. Military? Do you have any military experience at all? Have you ever served in ROTC? Did you at least play with the little green plastic troops when you lived in Hawaii? Do you know firsthand the horrors of war? I believe that firsthand knowledge and experience is the most critical element one can use in formulating decisions, including the determination of when to and when not to deploy U.S. Military forces. Sen. McCain has that experience. That I know. That he has shown. The media can’t take that away from him.
With regard to foreign policy experience, do you think you are qualified to navigate the most powerful democracy the world knows during a time when the fundamentals of democracy are very much under attack? Are you ready to face Mr. Putin? Mr. Chavez? Kim Jung mentally Ill? China? Iran? Are you ready to answer the 03:00 phone call? What experience do you have that I should judge gives you readiness? What is that experience? What foreign leaders have you negotiated with directly? What treaties have you signed? The media has presented none and neither have you. I have a good number of stamps in my passport Sen. Obama. I lived and worked in Germany for a brief period. Sen. Obama, I am not qualified by a longshot to make United States foreign policy, and you may only be marginally more qualified than I.
The oratorical is no substitute for judgment or experience Senator Obama. I do not believe that you have the experience to be President of our country. Experience matters Sen. Obama, and you are not ready, you have not made enough mistakes. But most glaring to me, Senator Obama is the one mistake that you seem willing to make over and over and it is the worst mistake one can make. That mistake is the action of not owning and learning from one’s mistakes. The surge worked Senator.
Sen. Obama, you claim that you will cut taxes on 95% of all Americans. Is that true? Or let me rephrase, how can that be true? You told the voters of Illinois that you would cut taxes, but you have failed to do so in the U.S. Senate. Did you even try? Did you present a bill? Were it a committee issue did you encourage your peers to present one? Have you ever voted for a tax cut? What did you mean Senator Obama when you told Plumber Joe that you wanted to spread the wealth? Do you mean that you want to take money from Joe and give it to those with less money? Your running mate, Sen. Biden has commented that you would not be taxing additionaly those making under $250,000 a year. Sen. Biden commented that he knows no plumbers that make over $250,000 a year. I think that those who claim your tax policies embody class warfare are wrong. Wrong, because the policies are class warfare policies, but they are not directed against the haves, they are directed against the have-nots. Senator Biden, you may well be correct that few plumbers earn over $250,000 a year, but some that own plumbing contracting businesses probably do. What do those that spin your message have planned to say to that one plumber out of maybe six or seven that was employed by a plumbing company, but was laid off, because business is slow, new homes weren’t being built and President Obama’s tax increase forced the owner of the plumbing business to lay her off? The owner tried every angle possible, but was forced to make a tough decision. They were faced with the prospect of either making a tough decision or risk running the entire operation into financial distress and end up having to close operations and fire all workers? I guess you’d have Mr. Burton tell her that, even though she has no job, she does at least still have access to affordable healthcare? Senator Obama what will you say to the still unemployed plumber in Ohio, father of two, that nearly had a job secured, the owner had just signed a good contract for a small building and he was ready to hire that plumber, but learned from his accountant, that President Obama’s, Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid's tax increase has made it not possible to hire another employee? I guess you’d have Mr. Burton tell that plumber, that even though he still has no job, he does have a lower tax rate applied against his $0.00 income.
Sen. Obama, you have stated over and over that Sen. McCain supports tax breaks for corporations that send their jobs overseas. The media has not reported on this one way or another, but if you are correct, then I commend Sen. McCain for doing so. What you don’t get, Sen. Obama, or perhaps don’t want the American public to get, is that income taxes, to a for profit enterprise are expenses not much different from the costs of raw materials and salary expenses for purposes of this discussion. All else equal, ladies and gentleman, a corporation will locate itself, and its jobs, or begin to locate itself and its jobs, in areas where it is least penalized in terms of taxes. This is how for profit American corporations behave and this is how they must behave. Their competitors are operating in that manner, continually scouring expenses to search for reduction opportunities. They have to. If they do not, they will be at a cost disadvantage and if their tactical errors are sustained, they may well go out of business in which case, even those jobs which remain in the United States, could also disappear. Even if the company does not fail entirely, some jobs may be eliminated, and chances are great that the highest cost jobs would be targeted first. Sen. Obama, America is not a low cost country, in these circumstances, high cost American jobs would be targeted first, all else equal. When those jobs are cut Sen. Obama, those finding themselves newly unemployed will not have money to support the 'under $250k' crowd...they won't have money to support small businesses...is it sinking in at all?
Your position of not supporting tax breaks for corporations that export jobs overseas, indeed, only encourages them, at the margin, to further export jobs, or slow their job creation in the United States or end their job creation in the United States. This is global economic reality. The media can not distort this fact for you. At the final debate, I heard you add a carrot to your plans. You pulled that same tax string attached to the back of your head and out came the message your handlers have planted in you, that message you think the voters want to hear. I was laughing a bit, but if I understand you correctly, you’ll give tax credits to corporations that create jobs in America. In case you don’t know Senator Obama, this already happens today at the state and local level all across America. Have you thought about how much additionaly, it will cost the U.S. Treasury to employ workers, in an audit fashion, in order to verify which of all the xx million jobs that corporations claim they created, were actually created or do actually exist? What are the time constraints? How long must they keep the job filled in order to receive the credit? What would happen when that timeframe passes? Let me point this out to my fellow voters. Senator Obama wants to first keep tax rates on corporations high or raise them – thereby encouraging employers large and small to export their operations and jobs - and then at the same time he wants to turnaround and give them a tax credit for jobs they create? Senator, or maybe I should be addressing your advisers, you do realize that the two are policy opposites don’t you? It looks to me that you might be trying to convince us that it would be a good idea to spend more on government for an unknown expected net job decrease/increase. If you can convince us that those are winning policies Senator Obama, then I’d suggest you save us all some trouble, sell the American voters a bridge to nowhere and retire, pen some books, give some speeches. Indeed, your tax policy is bigger government, bigger IRS, more regulatory burden on American corporations and more administrative overhead makes them less competitive in the global market and less likely to employ. It is not the right policy Senator Obama, not by a long shot.
Go back to the Senate and accomplish something Sen. Obama. Your candidacy is an insult to America.
ps, the verdict has been in for decades on the effectiveness of spreading the wealth policies. Go visit an American Indian Reservation Sen. Obama. The only thing that has changed for the past several decades is the faces of the Washington politicians that have redistributed wealth to us. Do you have any clue what the average unemployment rate is in Indian Country Sen.Obama? Illicit drug use rate? Teen pregnancy rate? Suicide rate? Pick a rate Senator.
Posted by: zerO | Oct 19, 2008 8:47:34 PM
-- the verdict has been in for decades on the effectiveness of spreading the wealth policies. --
Indeed.. we have been redistributing it from the middle class to the wealthy for years now.. to the point where the top 1% controls almost 40% of this nations wealth.
Thanks for pointing that out!
Posted by: Concerned American | Oct 19, 2008 8:49:30 PM
The Republicans have already been busy redistributing the wealth for the past 8 years.
They've been helping redistribute money from the lower and middle income groups to the top 5% of the filthy rich.
8 more year! 8 was not enough! We want MORE! Vote Republican! 8 more years!
Posted by: pefros | Oct 19, 2008 8:49:40 PM
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