Keep beating that dead horse, no one cared about a guy who might get taxed more if he makes 250k, but the rest of us don't so... yeah.

Is it just me, or does it look like he pauses for laughter or clapping and it never comes? like the little chuckle from last night.

Oh, and isn't Obama's tax plan not on what you pull in as business, but what you actually profit after all of your expenses are paid off and written off?
If you clear 250k or more a year in profit, then yeah you will be taxed a little higher then you are now. But that isn't most people, most people are lucky, i stress lucky to make over 60k as a family.

See? McCain does not want you to look at him, he has to find someone else to make the campaign about or else he'll lose!

McCain does not inspire people. He does not make you want to go out and vote for him. So he has to find a distraction. That's what Palin was...that's what this plumber is.

And the media is falling for it.

Get back to issues!

Vote for Obama if you want him to “spread the wealth around.”

OK So Joe the Plumber dowsn't even have a plumbing liscense and he is a deadbeat tax ower.. Good choice John... You just PROVED what kind of people YOU associate with, Liars and Cheats...

Oh, and isn't Obama's tax plan not on what you pull in as business, but what you actually profit after all of your expenses are paid off and written off?

You are dead wrong... it is anything over 250,000... profit or not.

Amazing. McCain seems to think that Joe just appeared and had not been sent to try to see Obama. Amazing. This man is now making Bill Clinton look like nothing when it comes to sleeze.

I think Joe is confusing revenue, profit and taxable income. Joe''s revenue is 278K--not his profit. He has salaries, benefits, costs for running business (including paying loans) to deduct.

Even at a net of 250K+ he will only pay marginally more taxes on the amount above 250K (and less on the below). On every net 10K above 250K (after all those deductions) he will pay $300. The rest is taxed the same as before.

This is NOT the working capital of his business. It is his profit taking after whatever he invests in his business.

If Joe's profit really is 278K, he will only be taxed more on 28K and only $870/year or 2 dollars and 30 cents a day. That's a missing latte, so Starbucks may whine ;-). By comparison--Joe will have about 200K after tax to spend in any case. That is almost 17K net a month or over 7,000 lattes a month. I think he can share a few.

Or he can invest the money and make more money and only pay 15% in capital gains tax. If he saves 10K of those a month and has a net gain of 7% a year, he can retire when he is 45. With a wealth of 2 million in the bank, or wait until 65 and have 12 million. I call that the American Dream!

I wish I was in the Plumbing-Owning-Business!

The $2.30/day will be part of what Joe''s customer's get and can use to hire him, but most of their extra spending dollars will come from the CEO''s of Big Oil. They have a much higher net income than Joe will ever have, and will have to give up a few more lattes.

Joe's business (and Joe) will fare better under Obama''s proposed tax system than they do now as the people who have a net income of over 250K a year will pay a little bit more on what is above 250K and a bit less on the amount below. For many it will be a "wash", but when your net income is in the millions, you will have to share with Joe the Plumber.

I think Joe is mislead and misinformed, and the lack of critical journalism makes things worse.

attack Joe the plumber. good plan.

Senator McCain, why did you ruin Joe's life?

You should have checked his background before putting your whole campaign on someone who
1) In 2007, the state filed a tax lien against Joe for not paying his taxes.
2) Lied about his income. He doesn't make anywhere close to $250,000. In fact, he'll pay less tax under Obama's plan.
3) Lied about being a plumber (he has no license). Was working as a plumber without a license (which is required by the county he works in).

Senator McCain should have done his research before spending the last 24 hours championing someone who isn't paying his taxes.

Uh, Ken. He isn't required to have a plumber's license until he buys the business according to the laws in the state he operates in (maybe you should have read all of that article). He has worked as an almost partner with the owner for a long time and there have been discussions about what would happen one day when he "takes over," one buddy working with another and coming along in the business.

A hard-working American who has made his way from the beginning on up in a business that a lot of us wouldn't even want to do (too much pooh). What is so wrong with him that he exemplifies liars and cheats? His concern about his taxes increasing makes it obvious that he has no intention on cheating on them...

hey ken-ID RATHER ASSOCIATE WITH JOE THE PLUMBER RATHER THAN RACIST HATE AMERICA PIGS LIKE JEREMIAH WRIGHT,HATE AMERICA MAD BOMBER "ACADEMICS" LIKE WILLIAM AYERS(DONT FORGET-WARD CHURCHILL AND SAMI AL ARIAN WERE "PROFESSORS") ARAB SCUM LIKE MR AUCHI AND TONY REZKO OR BOLSHEVIK COMMIE PUKES LIKE HIS BI**H WIFE MICHELLE. JOE THE PLUMBER REPRESENTS AMERICA. COMMIE SCUM LIKE YOU REPRESENT WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA.

So must we now endure 3 weeks of having to hear about "Joe the plumber" and Joe Sixpack and all the hockey moms? McCain/Palin have to rely on catchphrases and nonsense like "Joe the plumber" because they don't have anything else to run on. McCain/Palin are completely bankrupt at this point, and sadly, "Joe the plumber" will become just another catchphrase that in the end means absolutlely nothing to McCain/Palin. All McCain/Palin are doing is using poor "Joe the plumber." In truth, neither McCain nor Palin give a flying fig about "Joe the plumber." McCain/Palin's cultists might fall for this bit of nonsense, but the rest of America will not.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2008!

McCain you are a joke, Fact Check: ‘Joe the plumber’ is not even a licensed plumber you dope! he isn’t even ready to start his own business according to him and if he did he wouldn’t be making or borrowing $250,000.00 and miss on Obama’s tax cuts for every American making under $250,000.00! THIS JOE PLUMBER AND JOE SIXPACK GARBAGE IS A NON FACTOR and 98% of those with small businesses make UNDER $250,000.00 profit anyway! GO TAKE A NAP GRAMPA!! You’re getting confused again! this is all you have? Joe the FAKE plumber? and that other nimwit Palin and her imaginary friend Joe sixpack? the Republicans are hallucinating again! the other guy you can “sit and have a beer with” Joe sixpack! just like Bush! we could sit and have a beer with Bush too, remember? and we see how THAT one turned out! NEXT!!!

Obama / Biden All the Way!!!!!

OH BY THE WAY DAN-MY NEPHEW LIVES IN OHIO,IS A PLUMBER.OWNS HIS OWN BUSINESS AND WAS NOT REQUIRED TO GET A LISCENSE UNTIL 60 DAYS AFTER HIS BUSINESS OPENED.SEEMS TO ME YOUR SHAKY INFO IS COMMING OFF SOME EXTREMIST DIMWIT TALKING POINT WEBSITE. A DAILY KOOK PERHAPS? A PAID SOROS HATE AMERICA TROLL? WHAT SCARES YOU ABOUT JOE THE PLUMBER? THAT HES AN AVERAGE BLUE COLLAR AMERICAN? THAT HES NOT A COMMIE PINKO HATE AMERICA SCUM LIKE YOU? THATHES A BLELIEVER IN FREEDOM? YOU COMMIES SEEM TO LIKE CAPITALISM AND FREEDOM WHEN IT APPLIES TO YOU. YOU SCUM SEEM TO HATE FREEDOM WHEN IT APPLIES TO ALL. AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED,KISS MY AND JOE THE PLUMBERS BACKSIDES. WE ARE THE REAL AMERICA.

If Obama is elected, what are his chances of raising taxes on dividends, capital gains, corporations, inheritance, etc? Even with a Democratic Congress, he has little chance. In 2000, when George Bush repealed the inheritance tax, every single Republican voted to support him, along with 60 moderate Democrats in Congress. The South and West have Democratic Congressmen who are moderate, not liberals. These people have constituents who basically are conservative. They will not risk losing an election in their own districts by supporting increased taxes, especially on inheritance. As President, Obama will be singing the praises of high taxation from the Oval Office, and a good one-third of the Democrats will be voting against him. All hell will break loose in the Democratic Party – the liberals vs. the moderate Democrats from TN, AR, MT, SD, ND, KS, GA, FLA, AL, KY. I’ve lived in the south all my life. No way will Democratic Senators or House members vote for increased taxes on business, dividends or inheritance. It just won’t happen. I don’t want to see Obama elected, but on the other hand, it will be so sweet watching the two factions of the Democratic Party turn on each other!! I wonder if Obama will start calling the moderate Democrats racists when they don’t vote his way?

OH YES-ACCORDONG TO THE COMMIE OBAMINATIONS, WE ALL HAVE TO "REGISTER OUR JOBS" WITH THE STATE SO THEY KNOW WHAT WE DO. THATS COMMUNISM AND LAST I LOOKED I DONT LIVE IN NORTH KOREA. WHATS NEXT YOU COMMIE OBAMINATORS-WE HAVE TO "GIVE" OUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT NUMBERS TO YOU SCUM SO YOU CAN "MAKE US PATRIOTIC" AND "PAY OUR FAIR SHARE"? OR DO YOU WANT A "BREATHING TAX" SO WE HAVE A RIGHT TO LIVE? YOU COMMIE PIG OBAMINATIONS COULD TURN A GOLD MINE INTO A TOXIC WASTE DUMP

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McCain doesn't know the difference between $250,000.00 net revenue and $250,000.00 gross profits.

The business "Joe the Plumber" expressed an interest in purchasing might have net revenues of $250,000.00. It seems unlikely that "Joe", a self-employed, unlicensed "plumber" is currently in a position to purchase a business that earns a gross profit of $250,000.00.

On the other hand, under Obama's tax plan, a business with $250,000.00 net revenues falls into that category of businesses that would NOT see an increase in taxes.

In a word, the business Joe the Plumber claims he is considering would not see any increase in its taxes under Obama's economic plan.

Or, as Obama put it last night in the debate - ZERO.

OK, so Joe the Plumber doesn't even have a plumbing license and he is a deadbeat tax ower.. Good choice John... You just PROVED what kind of people YOU associate with......