Obama is risky, all his friends are terrorists and thugs. Obama and Osama have the same thing in common - they both have friends that blew up the Pentagon.

norman, shut up.

IT'S ABOUT TIME Obama pointed it out.

I'VE BEEN SAYING IT ALL ALONG, GRAMPS IS TOO OLD! WAY TOO OLD TO BE PREZ!

geez, how many times did the Republicans REJECT HIM?

Norman, how many times was McCain REJECTED by the Republicans? I forget...

MCliar/McPalin are really nuts and their health plan is reckless. They are on the stump talking at a town hall meeting regarding their health plan and the 5,000 deductions, but not mentioning that the $5,000 will go straight to the insurance compaines not to you. Once again bailing out the companies not you.

Norman - You need to stop talking about Obama and his terrorists becasue they are nothing but lies. McCain have shown to have been involved in the KEATING 5 bottom line.

Yes lets trust the candidate that couldn't even pass a background check to work for the FBI.

"McCain have shown to have been involved in the KEATING 5 bottom line.'

Bottom line, 3 of the Keating 5 support Barry. They must see something of themselves in him.

HANNITY LIMBAUGH FOX NEWS are going to destroy this country with their LIES!

SARAH PALIN = LAUGHINGSTOCK

JOHN McCAIN = LAUGHINGSTOCK

McCAIN/PALIN = FAIL

"HANNITY LIMBAUGH FOX NEWS are going to destroy this country with their LIES!"

The only lie is the one that Obama has been telling you about his relationship with his terrorist friend. "just some guy from the neighborhood". Lying sack of .....

McCain is risky, erratic and uncertain.

And we all know it, regardless of who we're supporting.

I've been making this criticism long before it became so blatantly obvious these past few week. I think the way I was describing McCain was kneejerk emotionalism.

Hot out on the Wire today:

Sarah Palin thought it was a good idea to hire Liddy to promote drilling in ANWR. Did she know Liddy was convicted of conspiracy, burglary, wiretapping, contempt of court and contempt of Congress; was willing to kill a janitor and a journalist as part of the Watergate break-in; admitted plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution? Kidnap plans?

So as you see we can all play these crazy games.

Please Mack. where did we hear this one...Fox News? haha

Nice try Mack

the same deregulating lobby that brought us Keating (and mccain's vacations and plane trips and parties together)

got hired to write Mccain's economic plans for the rest of us.

literally

same team
same tactics

9th year

throw these bums out!

Mack, you can't judge a candidate by their supporters.

I mean, if I judged McCain that way, I'd assume he's an idiot who mindlessly believes and repeats anything he reads on right-wing blogs...

Becky

Palin plays the crazy game best...

it takes a native...to know the land.

lol

Sarah Palin thought it was a good idea to hire Liddy to promote drilling in ANWR. Did she know Liddy was convicted of conspiracy, burglary, wiretapping, contempt of court and contempt of Congress; was willing to kill a janitor and a journalist as part of the Watergate break-in; admitted plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution? Kidnap plans?

Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in “if necessary”; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a “gangland figure” to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap “leftist guerillas” at the 1972 Republican National Convention — a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis. (The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.) During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents.

Liddy has donated $5,000 to McCain’s campaigns since 1998, including $1,000 in February 2008. In addition, McCain has appeared on Liddy’s radio show during the presidential campaign, including as recently as May. An online video labeled “John McCain On The G. Gordon Liddy Show 11/8/07″ includes a discussion between Liddy and McCain, whom Liddy described as an “old friend.” During the segment, McCain praised Liddy’s “adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great,” said he was “proud” of Liddy, and said that “it’s always a pleasure for me to come on your program.”

gl - actually I hope the Republicans do keep talking about Ayers. It just shows everyone how small and out of touch they really are.

Here's how independents hear it:

"The economy is collapsing and you guys want to talk about this crap?"

And when you throw in a few more quotes, like McCain saying he wants "to turn the page" from the economy (before he wanted to turn back, and then turn away again, and then turn back...), and a campaign staffer flatly admitting if the election stays on the issues, we lose...

It doesn't take independents too long to figure out what's going on.

STINGS LIKE A BEE.

"McCAIN/PALIN = FAIL

Barry = Terrorist loving liar

I don't think O should be talking about risky, it might just backfire, considering he is the one who is risky.

Why is it that when you write about Obama he is "attacking" McCain, but when you write about McCain he is "invoking" or "calling out"?

How are my fellow PRISONERS doing today?

If this "Terrorist" guy Obama is Pals with is so bad, Why was he never found gulity of it? He is a teacher now right? If is is so bad dont yout think Bush would have him sent out of here?

McCain's campaign shows no discipline. The posting on the website should have been proofed before posting. The bottom line is the Obama campaign has stayed on message and been very patient. Obama has been thoughtful and unflappable, presidential, that is. The McCain campaign keeps on rolling the dice and coming up with snake eyes.

Mack - KEATING 5 you can not spin this one. Sorry McCain was all involved and was told by the Judge that he exerise BAD JUDGEMENT! TIME AFTER TIME MCCAIN HAVE SHOWED HIS BAD JUDGEMENT. PALIN WAS ONE OF HIS BIGGEST BAD JUDGEMENTS.

"Here's how independents hear it:

"The economy is collapsing and you guys want to talk about this crap?"

It comes down to judgment, character and trust which are none of the above in Obama's case. He couldn't even pass a background check to work for the FBI, and we are going to give him the most powerful job in the country, if not the world?

Mack, McCain was part of the Keating 5. Not sure I get your circular logic? I know you'll probably respond with an insult, don't bother. McCain is losing on the issues.

"If this "Terrorist" guy Obama is Pals with is so bad, Why was he never found gulity of it? He is a teacher now right? If is is so bad dont yout think Bush would have him sent out of here?"

It was thrown out on a technicality.
"guilty as hell and free as a bird, America is a great country" direct quote make by Bill Ayers.

Dow has fallen 35% since last October.
Palin/McCain blaming main stream media for not focusing on Ayers.
Ask yourself, what is in your best interests.

sam - you can shout that Obama is the riskier candidate all you like, but the voters see what they see.

McCain is erratic. And overly emotional. His performance during the Russian military action in Georgia wasn't reassuring. Neither was his performance during this economic crisis.

And let's not forget its not just an age thing. Google "senator hothead" and out of 100 current senators, and who knows how many former senators, I'll bet you every link that comes up is about John McCain.

McCain/Palin - live in a dream world. Where would the money come from to pay off these mortgages??? More from the taxpayers, of course. Haven't we lost enough. Some of these people are just as much at fault, buying houses they could not afford, and we should bail them out too. It seems like the more you hear about McCain/Palin the worse it gets. But this was a mistake (mcCain) it was written in - doesn't he check anything out? Scary

Ayers is a dead horse and the Repub's can keep beating it all they want. They need to create a new crisis or this party is over.

McCain gets ideas from Hillary Clinton.
(see http://clinton.senate.gov). I wonder why Obama opposes it and I think in order to solve the financial we have to get the root of the problem.

What bothers me most about Obama is that he does not display passion or compassion. He doesn't seem to really get excited unless he is talking about himself. He seems disturbed when he is personally attacked but is not flustered by the economic downfall of the country ("they'll call me if the need me"). In the first debate, he couldn't even remember the name of the soldier whose bracelet he wore! It was just a prop for him.

This is unlike McCain who shows emotion by the expressions on his face and in his tone of voice. Obama calls McCain unstable for caring about issues. I call Obama uncaring for what is referred to as his "cool" demeanor. Obama's agenda is himself, and nothing else. He wants to make sure his daughters can keep having $1000 birthday parties and $10000 dance lessons, and Michelle can keep buy $600 earrings. When asked if he'll protect the country, he responds that of course he'll protect his family. When asked what's great about America, he answers that he had a lot of opportunities here. He has never said that he loves America because of what it stands for, just for what he got out of it.

I'm afraid of what he'll do if he wins because he won't commit on anything: he changes his position to avoid controversy. All the other presidents we've had, good or bad, seemed to love America. Obama does not and this is scarry.

And let's not forget, McCain is the guy who tried to have a fist fight with a 95-year-old in the Capitol.

McCain confronted and had to be pulled away from Strom Thurmond, after Thurmond interrupted McCain during a committee hearing.

McCain slammed the 95-year-old Thurmond against a wall, and had to be pulled back and away by others before doing it again. And ask yourself, how many body slams can a 95-year-old survive? If he hadn't been physically restrained, John McCain may very well have killed Strom Thurmond that day.

And all this by McCain over a perceived insult? And this is the guy some of you want in the Oval Office?

No thanks. I'll take the steady, less risky choice.

tina, you don't see what others see. the economy is in the tank and McCain doesn't seem to get it. you can make stuff up about Obama or project your own feelings onto him, but it only resonates with the Fox News set. Obama is a proud American just like you.

Well, well, well... That's the teapot calling the kettle mulatto.

Norman are you having a bad day. Obama is not a thug or terrorist and you know it. Hope you have a better day tomorrow.

My Fellow Prisoners,

With each passing day, I fall further and further behind in "That One's" rear view mirror, and from what he did to Hillary Clinton, once he gets a lead, he never relinquishes it.

So, in consolation, I'm providing free buttermilk vouchers to all who supported me and my parrot Palin.

We're sinkin' and sinkin fast!!! HELP!
John McChicken McCain

POTUS OBAMA - "THAT ONE" who Opened up a Can of Whoop A** on the GOP

Also, Obama is so bad - what about McCain. How credible is he?

tina: "I'm afraid of what he'll do if he wins because he won't commit on anything: he changes his position to avoid controversy."

Lol, and you're talking about Obama? Name one position McCain has held consistently? Well, I'll give you abortion. I think he's been consistent on that. But anything else?

Obama is risky, he sued City Bank for not giving loans to people who could not afford them. Obama and the domocrats hands are all over this economic mess!

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Published: Oct 7, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-10-07 16:24:10 by Magician

Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank Fair Housing/Lending/Insurance

Docket / Court 94 C 4094 ( N.D. Ill. ) FH-IL-0011

State/Territory Illinois

Case Summary

Plaintiffs filed their class action lawsuit on July 6, 1994, alleging that Citibank had engaged in redlining practices in the Chicago metropolitan area in violation of the Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA), 15 U.S.C. 1691; the Fair Housing Act, 42 U.S.C. 3601-3619; the Thirteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution; and 42 U.S.C. 1981, 1982. Plaintiffs alleged that the Defendant-bank rejected loan applications of minority applicants while approving loan applications filed by white applicants with similar financial characteristics and credit histories. Plaintiffs sought injunctive relief, actual damages, and punitive damages.

U.S. District Court Judge Ruben Castillo certified the Plaintiffs suit as a class action on June 30, 1995. Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank, 162 F.R.D. 322 (N.D. Ill. 1995). Also on June 30, Judge Castillo granted Plaintiffs motion to compel discovery of a sample of Defendant-banks loan application files. Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank, 162 F.R.D. 338 (N.D. Ill. 1995).

The parties voluntarily dismissed the case on May 12, 1998, pursuant to a settlement agreement.

[Plaintiffs Lawyers

Alexis, Hilary I. (Illinois)

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Childers, Michael Allen (Illinois)

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Cummings, Jeffrey Irvine (Illinois)

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Love, Sara Norris (Virginia)

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Miner, Judson Hirsch (Illinois)

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I heard through my e-mail box that Obama used to hang out with radical space aliens. Theses are some of the same aliens that want to take over the solar sytem.

To make matters worse, Obama actually wants to sit down and talk to these aliens.

We can't let this happen!

McCain can not even stay on message, he can not TRAIN Palin to sound intelligent and the only channel they give interviews to is FOX with such people as Hannity. Wow. How many hard questions are they going to get with Hannity who googles at Palin like she is Miss America? McCain IS erractic and is using the exact same tatics against Obama that destroyed his bid for the Presidency in 2000. Ayers is not involved with the Obama campaign. I am sure that McCain has people he has associated with (Helms and Thurmond) who may have been seen as domestic terrorist since they were bigots. Palin's husband is a member of AIP and when Palin was mayor the AIP held an event in her town. Isn't that ASSOCIATION with a seperatist group?

Randy,

There are no better days for the Repugs.

ITS THE FIIINAAAAAL COUNTDOOOOOOOOWN!

They're scurrying like rats abandoning a sinking ship.

POTUS OBAMA - IT'S A LOCK!!
(Even they know it)

Tina

do you really want the president to get "flustered"

if you do

I can see why you are supporting the same team that we have had.

Just switched roles...now the Cheney disposition is at the top of the ticket and Bush's brains is waiting in the wings.

actually that is an insult to bush.

Is McCain risky?

Eight years ago, Newsweek asked Republican senators why all but four were supporting Governor Bush instead of their colleague McCain.

That's when a bunch of Senator Hothead stories started coming out, and Newsweek even quoted one, without naming the senator, who said he didn't support McCain for commander in chief because, "I didn't want this guy anywhere near a trigger."

Now, the quote was without attribution, so suspect what you will, but I prefer to think Newsweek wouldn't just make something like that up.

Dear huh?:

McCain went to Washington to try to get a fair deal for Americans on the bailout and Obama ridiculed him. McCain made some headway on this, and we should be please that someone stood up for taxpayers. Now McCain wants to help homeowners directly by buying bad mortgages. McCain also said he'll freeze government spending except for veteran and other important programs. Obama has made no specific statements on how he'll adjust his economic plan if elected. His healthcare plan is status quo.

In the primaries, recall that Obama was mocked for copying Hillary's ideas. He has no ideas of his own. Everyone knows he sat in Rev. Wrights church for 20 years listening to "god damn America," and it seems he didn't care one way or the other, until people found out about it.

Is Obama as proud of America as his wife? She said she became proud pretty recently, as I recall.

My Fellow Prisoners,

With each passing day, I fall further and further behind in "That One's" rear view mirror, and from what he did to Hillary Clinton, once he gets a lead, he never relinquishes it.

So, in consolation, I'm providing free buttermilk vouchers to all who supported me and my parrot Palin.

We're sinkin' and sinkin fast!!! HELP!
John McChicken McCain

"THAT ONE" opened up several cans of Chicago Whoop a**, didn't he?

POTUS OBAMA - IT'S A LOCK!!!

Gee Paul - I don't know maybe a body slam or two for the Iranian President and the Venezuelian President might not be a bad thing to do. Not very productive and diplomatic but who knows he may knock some sense into their heads. LOL I am kidding

Norman

the person whose hands are all over this mess

was the ones whose hands wrote Mccain's economic plans for us.

so stop.

other hands that were all over that and the Iraq mess...

are planning McCain's plans for our future foreign policy and leadership.

same
team
same tactics
same mess

time for America to get angry at the lies and distractions and copverups...

throw these bums out!

McCain, your getting pathetic, without your lies and distortions you have nothing to say, my friend. You betcha.

Reason: "I heard through my e-mail box that Obama used to hang out with radical space aliens. Theses are some of the same aliens that want to take over the solar sytem."

I heard that, too, and also that John McCain was all for amnesty of these space aliens, before he was against it, before he was for it, before he was against it...

Why hasn't FOX or anybody for that matter done a one hour special on the Alaska Independence Party??

You know the secessionist group Todd Palin supported up until 2002? Am I to believe that he had no influence on Sara, his wife??

Guilty by association right? So, is Sara in favor of Alaska leaving the U.S. of A??

What a great choice she was by McCain.

Hannity is a hypocrit and bald-faced liar. Just the other day when he was receiving his public thrashing at the hands of Obama's spokesman, his pitiful defense was that because he is a journalist, he was entitled/obligated to interview the anti-Semite. Yesterday, after it was announced that Hannity signed a new contract with Fox News, his response was that he is not a journalist but rather a talk show host which gives him the freedom to interview anybody he wants. The sheer hypocrisy and dishonesty of the people on the far right is appalling and disgusting. Anything goes when it serves their purposes.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2008/10/08/2008-10-08_sean_hannity_to_stay_with_fox_news_throu.html

Let's get real about this finger-pointing 'who's-connected-to-who' BS the GOP is sliming around. Ayers commited his acts when Obama was 8 years old. When he met Ayers, 30 years later, Ayers was a college professor of education. Palin's husband was a member in good standing until 2004 of a political party which wanted to suceed from the United States -- that, for those of you who can't figure these things out for themselves, is called treason. Palin was an adult and sleeping with her husband when he was a separatist. You tell me, which is the closer connection?

Jenny: "Gee Paul - I don't know maybe a body slam or two for the Iranian President and the Venezuelian President might not be a bad thing to do."

Yeah, but the problem is, McCain only wants to "talk" with our friends.

I guess the Spaniards are safe, though. No body slams for them.

tina

is there a single truthful statement in that entire post...

no.

same team
same lies as 2004 and the last 8 years...

throw these bums out. Get angry America when someone lies to you...and wants to continue at the cost of your kids and our nation's fuiture.

Get angry

throw these lying bums out!

"Norman are you having a bad day. Obama is not a thug or terrorist and you know it. Hope you have a better day tomorrow."

Just some guys/gals that live in his neighborhood are.

Risky or erratic, now His Phony Nothingness enchants. What is his idea, any original ideas? Paying you $1000 bucks if you vote for him? Is that going to solve this global mess?

Had he supported HRC's proposal of targeted economic rescue aimed at the banking and mortgage sectors 12 months ago, had he, Zerobameus, rather than give cash to individuals, which did nothing to the down slide of the economy, and this Phony still uses to buy your votes promising to give you another $1000 if you vote for him, perhaps your retirement accounts would have been 50% better than what you have today.

Do you still support this deceptionist who does nothing, done nothing, and will do nothing, except empty promises that he will change overnight, including taking your constitulational rights of individual privacy? If you do, good luck if you would have anything left in your retirement accounts in 2 years.

You are all had.

Speaking of which, did the McCain campaign ever clarify what the heck McCain meant by seeming to indicate he didn't like Spain much?

I mean, both Obama and Biden took that easy shot in debates, and still no answer.

Mack atleast Obama hasd a few bad people in his neighborhood

Mccain's bad people ...just wrote his economic and foreign policy plans... you know a few months after they quit lobbying for those same companies that got us this mess and received all those moneys from the Iraq war?

same team
same tactics

get angry

throw these liars to the curb!

Tina,

Are you familiar with the old expression "cool, calm, collected"? That's Obama. Why should the man put on a phony-baloney show of emotion like McStale? Fascism thrives on people like you who believe that real concern about an issue can only be shown through (hypocritical) Elmer Gantry revival antics.

Risky and erratic is precisely what I want in a President. Maybe North Korea, Russia, Iran, the Taliban, Bid Laden and other useless POS will think twice before provoking the twitchy McCain.

I would like to know why the media has been silent on Palin's ongoing association with the Alaskan Independence Party - a group that hates the US so much that their goal is to secede. This is beyond a double standard. Here's the link showing video of her ties.

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/10/08/the-palins-imperfect-union/

Obama did not ridicule McCain when McCain "fake suspended his campaign" to return to Washington to get ABSOLUTELY NOTHING done. He did not have to because other people and even members of his own party ridiculed him. McCain is running out of time and running out of excuses. He WILL NOT attack Obama HIMSELF. He sends out Palin and now Cindy to do it for him. ;-). He had his chance at the last debate to bring Ayers to Obama's face and he did not do it. He just made it more fun because now Obama supporters can buy T-Shirts that have "That One" on the front. He just helped Obama make more money. ;-)That's all.

"Let's get real about this finger-pointing 'who's-connected-to-who' BS the GOP is sliming around. Ayers commited his acts when Obama was 8 years old."

And once again, how old was he when he sat in Ayers' living room seeking his advice and guidance on Obama's political career.

Right. You do not have retirement accounts to worry about.

you repukes need to explain to me, why is Ayers not in JAIL?....

This is funny. So, Obama is a terrorist by association and what exactly does that make McCain??

He was afterall only too happy to have the support of one of those religious nuts who called the catholic church a whore. And he only distanced himself after being pressured.

I guess that means McShame is a catholic hater?

However, when the campaign released more details of the plan Wednesday they made it clear that McCain was proposing that the government buy the mortgages at their original, higher price; higher--that means--than what they are worth right now. Which would mean the government, backed by taxpayers, would make up the difference. It is this, that Obama charged, is a "risky idea."
------------------------------

This idea is not just risky but in some states illegal. For a while, I worked in Houston as an accountant. During that time, I kept books parttime for real estate firms and became something of an expert on closing statements.

At closing time, everybody, including the lender regards the house closing statement as a Xmas tree. Everybody loads the statement with all kinds of fees and costs. These are either paid at closing or added on to the cost of the mortgage. In many states,it is illegal to charge certain costs to the borrower. But, it is done anyway, the poor smuck just does not know his rights.

My point is that the extra closing costs can easily add up to thousands of dollars added to the cost of the mortgage note. This amount is what McCain wants to buy. I can only assume that McCain either does not have a real estate lawyer on board or someone in the real estate industry got to him.

"I would like to know why the media has been silent on Palin's ongoing association with the Alaskan Independence Party "

That is scary. How many bombs did they plant?

Unlike past elections, Americans are paying attention and know McCain has changed his flip flopped on a daily basis.

Going along with that is Todd Palin claiming his wife knew nothing of Troopergate. However, several people have already reported that Gov. Palin would regularly reply to government e-mails and include Todd Palin. Is Todd Palin saying the Governor wasn't paying attention to the e-mails she replied to? Several people have said Gov. Palin held meetings where Todd Palin was present. Is Todd Palin saying the Governor wasn't paying attention during the meetings?

Mack,

You must be on the verge of a nervous breakdown considering your view that a Muslim with Black Panther executive priviledge combined with expert and up to date consultation from Rev Wright will be POTUS.

How will you survive knowing that Rev Wright is looking for a "Few Good White Concubines" to spread the word?

Cry now, kill yourself on November 4th.

POTUS OBAMA - Your Resistance is Futile

"He was afterall only too happy to have the support of one of those religious nuts who called the catholic church a whore"

Did he sit in a racist church for 20 years that railed against white people?

Besides being risky, and erratic, I think he is a coward too.

He is afraid to confront Obama, and he will be afraid to confront our national enemies. This is the main reason he doesn't condone talks, easier to sit back and throw bombs and missiles at them.

He is dangerous, unstable, unsure, weak individual, with out a moral compass.

It looks like an O landslide to me on Nov. 4.

responding to "ali pool"

Yeah, well there is not any need to vote for President because we will all be dead after McCain starts a nuclear war because he is to erratic, hot headed and high tempered to give thought to his actions. LOL.

"you repukes need to explain to me, why is Ayers not in JAIL?...."

He was released on a technicality.
"guilty as hell and free as a bird, America is a great country" - Bill Ayers

He was joking with the crowd! we knew it. Stop trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

Paul,

I suppose you can explain why OJ Simpson was not in prison for 10 years, and that they only had to frame him to get him now. If you are afraid of saying it, let me help you: it's because he is black, and he played that card well.

So is Zerobameus, God of Nothingness.