this IS a bold-faced lie. Obama acknowledges that the average health care plan is $12,000. He acknowledges that McCain's plan is a $5,000 tax credit. when he and Biden calls this gap a "bridge to nowhere," they are being disingenuous, a bold-faced-lie, if you will.

under current law, the difference between your employer buying you your health insurance and you buying your own health insurance is that companies can write off $4,000 in tax (35% corporate income tax on a $12,000 policy). If you bought it on your own, your employer will have to pay you $16,000 more ($12,000 for the plan and $4,000 to cover your personal income tax). Sen. McCain's tax credit of $5,000 more than adequately covers this gap, and it shifts the purchasing decision to you. Health insurance should not be taxable. I personally support the Democratic plan of nationalized health-care, where employers negotiate the plans, because Wal-Mart has more leverage than I do, unless you don't work for a Wal-Mart, like the millions of us that work for small businesses, then you're in trouble. But Sen. Obama's bumper-sticker talking-points patently false number games are disillusioning me to his original message of clean politics.

How can you vote for some who says this about our son's and daughters husbands and fathers and mothers in the military.Obama stating that our armed forces are "raiding villages and killing civilians" That what we are doing over there is worthless and does not added up to much.its not working it is working. We need to get out now no mater what the cost. What kind of leader would say these things?

Obama lies more then the media or the lazy dem's who don't want to face it think he does.I see a lot of people say he is the most honest person they know.. Well they don't know many people do they? Obama lies get over it he is not God. Can't wait for him to get in offcie so we can say we told you so. He is not what you thought go cry somewhere else.

$5000 is not going to pay for a $12000 health plan.

But McCain will accomplish one thing:

He wants insurance companies to be regulated in the state of their OWN CHOOSING, merely by reincorportating in a industry friendly, Republican state like Texas.

When your insurance plan reincorportates in Texas, nullifying all consumer protections you now have, you will be TOTALLY UNABLE to do anything about it.

Go and try to lobby for better consumer protection laws in Texas.

Making the consumers powerless is exactly McCain's goal.

omg, what a bold faced lie! Barack Obama says "John McCain wants to deregulate medicare like he did banks... how well did that go." What a deliberate misquote (like all his others, "100 years in Iraq"... "the economy has made great progress under Bush"... "the economy is fundamentally strong"... "13 houses.") John McCain was talking about his efforts to deregulate state borders when it comes to ATM machines, so if you drove from Virginia to North Carolina, you can still get cash out of an ATM machine with your ATM card. If you live in Michigan and an Ohio company has a superior health care policy, you should be able to buy it. Play the whole quote, Sen. Obama, or are you too scared?

I know and Barack Obama's pollsters know the American people don't want to hear it, but regulation of private banks worked. If you had deposits in Washington Mutual, and Washington Mutual went under, you're still covered. Bank of America covers them now. If you had deposits in Wachovia and Wachovia went under, you're still covered. Wells Fargo covers them. And if a myriad of other banks go under? Citi Group and Chase Manhattan are poised to cover them as well, and so is the FDIC. regulations of public financial institutions, however, was embarassing. I'm a Democrat, so I'm not going to pile on Democrats and praise Republicans, but I will name names. Sen. Chris Dodd was #1 in the pockets of Fannie and Freddie, and Barack Obama was #2. McCain, who tried to regulate Fannie and Freddie in Senate Bill 190, 2005 Congress, accepted virtually nothing from Fannie and Freddie. Congressman Frank was in bed with Fannie and Freddie. Sen. Obama is all for regulating the private sector, but he is just fine with beaurocrats gone wild. Once again, capitalism buckled, and big government failed.

Mccain / Palin / RNC = Pond Scum

They both are outright liars!!! We are in serious trouble!! DO NOT VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

marget, you are a liar.

Obama's comments about bombing villages were about increasing troops to afghanistan so we dont have to rely on airstrikes alone. Bush himself said something very similar about our airstrikes after an incident.

He wants to increase troops there.

Black people let O.J. free but justice prevailed. Don't let a black become president. Obama mamas grandmother lives in a hut in Kenya. He does nothing to help her. Obama mamma is a crack somking muslim.

Oh my, the fake postings on these ABC news articles! Wow, I guess that instead of actually going out and getting people to vote, the RNC has people who post the same RNC talking points under "clever" screen names like "Clintonite for McCain" and "Obamacrat for McCain." Hmm, what a coincindence!

For those of you expecting to read actual analysis in this comment sections, be warned: RNC trolls abound.

McCain campaign staffers are patrolling these boards and posting under several different names. These are not real people commenting. This is a strategy that they feel will sway people. When I said it was a waste of time, they asked me to leave the campaign. These are not real people.

Why is anyone even arguing about health care? Where is the money posssibly going to come from to implement even one of the new programs (of which the Dems have been promising in their same old rhetoric for decades) Obama says he plans to implement? Given today's financial instability the Dems committment to spending is a prescription for Disaster unless it is going to create jobs.

George W. Bush is an excellent example of what happens when the popular rich kid and class clown gets lucky and is elevated to President of the United States. Now, if we don’t watch it, two lucky mavericks want to try winning the tops spots. If the last eight years are not enough, maybe we should keep gambling our nation’s future while we worry how to pay for an ever-bigger deficit. For those with big egos, we are the Number One Debtor in the global economy. Thank the Republicans for it.

GOP=white Hate
Dems= rela change and opportunity

Please, now let the conservative hate begin.

Why didn't Obama take care of his mother's health care insurance? ... why was it the government's responsibility? ... just like his brother in Kenya, looks like Obama takes care of himself and the family is on its own ... and he wants government to be more responsible than him!!

Oh Margret-

Shut up! If that bothers you, you should be bothered by the FACT that John McCain has never voted to increase or even better benefits for the Veterans. He's voted time and time again against supporting our VETS. That to me is just an unpatriotic as what you claim Obama's unpatriotism is.

The VETS GROUP gives McCain a 20% approval rating, for crying out loud. They give Obama and 80 % approval rating. OBVIOUSLY THEY KNOW WHO'S ON THEIR SIDE!!!!!

So stop being so damn ignorant!

You people truly have lost your marbles.

If you "open up health care" to the private market, as mccain wants to do, the 180 million people with health care through their employers are going to end up in huge trouble. It will become too expensive for employers to provide health care...so they WON'T, and you will end up having to buy it privately from companies that are allowed (thanks to deregulation) to charge literally anything they want per month and not accept anyone with a 'preexisting' condition.
SECOND: Do you people know math? Ever heard of statistics? Statistics point to mccain quite possibly not living out the next 4 years. Guess who'll then take over for him? A radical right-winger whom even GEORGE WILL and other conservatives have said is not prepared. the fact that she can learn three phrases ('maverick', 'energy', and 'reform) for a debate she had time to prepare for means NOTHING--a trained monkey could do that. She is not at all prepared to lead this country. And you'd better tell your female friends and relatives that their rights hereby end--even if they get raped (hell, she'll make you pay for the rape kit yourself).
Wwith regard to the "obama" statement palin repeats about the war/military:The AP fact-checked the claim by pointing out that none other than President Bush himself had bemoaned the excessive loss of innocent Afghani lives and the setback such casualties caused for U.S. military efforts there.

from a military standpoint, what's dangerous for your sons and daughters in the military is someone whose first and only line of defense is to send them to foreign countries at the drop of a hat, like mccain, who won't even talk to SPAIN, as though all they are is chess pieces.

mccain SAID he was going to go strictly negative now (because he has nothing new to go on), and that's what he's doing. HE'S AT THE POINT WHERE HE AND CARIBOU BARBIE ARE JUST MAKING THINGS UP. Use your brain, if you have one.

the republicans keep bad-mouthing the idea of a govt. run health care plan. but isn't that exactly the health care plan that members of congress and the military have? the plan that has covered mccain and his family for his entire life? seems to me that if ti's good enough for them, it ought to be good enough for the rest of us...

Tan-

you f'n chink! How do you like it? Not too cool to have racism hit you smack in the face, is it?

It's personal for me, as well. I hate McCain's health care plan! I hate it a lot! My employer already pays for my health insurance(lucky me) and McCain wants to tax them? McCain's plan encourages employers to drop coverage.