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Obama's Baseball Blunder
October 20, 2008 7:43 AM
ABC News' John Berman Reports: Barack Obama is on his way to enemy territory this morning by his own admission. He is going to Tampa. What does Obama have against Tampa, you ask? Well, with the Tampa Bay Rays on their way to their first World Series in franchise history, Obama has declared his support for the opposition. Last weekend in Philadelphia, Obama told a crowd, "I am a White Sox fan," he said, "but since the White Sox are out of it, I'll root for the Phillies now."
So Obama is rooting "for" the Phillies, which means, if he maintains any modicum of consistency, "against" the Rays, a team filled with young, hopeful, no-name players. Did Obama root for the Empire in "Star Wars?"
This is the problem with battleground baseball. Sure, you can back one team in the swing state of Pennsylvania, but that means you offend the people in toss-up Florida. Maybe Obama will tell Tampa he was against them before he was for them?
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OR PERHAPS Obama will talk about John McCain's history of voting for Bush's privatization of Social Security.
OR McCain's plan to allow insurance companies to dump all consumer regulation by reincorporating in a friendly state. One that makes it almost impossible to fight the insurance company when they deny your coverage for cancer, just to pick one example.
OR McCain's plan that will encourage younger healthier workers to bail from employer provided health insurance, if effect concentrating only the OLDER, or seriously ILL behind in unbelievably expensive programs.
OR McCain's SERIOUS INFACTUATION with worker's making more that $150,000 a year. The middle class? Not even a consideration in John McCain's book.
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | Oct 20, 2008 8:08:01 AM
OR PERHAPS Barack Obama might talk about John McCain's history of voting AGAINST woman. There are a lot of retirees in Florida, and a disproportionate number of them are women.
Suppose a woman found out, after a lifetime of working for a company, that she had been intentionally discriminated against by her employer all that time.
That would be illegal.
Now suppose she went to court, which is where we settle our disputes instead of using a six-shooter, to ask for justice and she PROVED her case and PROVED that the discrimination was intentional and PROVED that this had been going on for 30 years. And she won her case.
BUT THAT same company, the one that intentionally discriminated against her for 30 years, takes it to the highly political U.S. Supreme Court. And that court ruled, 5-4, that this southern lady was NOT ENTITLED to sue.
Their reason? It had been 30 years since the FIRST discriminatory paycheck!
That's right, if she had somehow discovered within 6 MONTHS of her first discriminatory paycheck and sued, that would be fine. But having not been shown the SECRET list of salaries, she did not know and did not sue. SO CASE DISMISSED!
Democrats in the Congress know right from wrong. So they attempted to pass a law whose only purpose was to overturn the Supreme Court's erroneous decision and RETURN THE LAW to it's previous interpretation.
Barack Obama voted FOR the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act.
John McCain SUPPORTED the low life Republican filibuster.
UNDERSTAND, more that 50 of the 100 memebers of the Senate supported Lilly Ledbetter. But the Republicans WOULD NOT allow it to come to a vote.
This should be sufficient reason, by itself to throw every single Republican out of Congress. And of course, John McCain doesn't deserve to be either Senator or President. Period.
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | Oct 20, 2008 8:23:41 AM
Or perhaps Obama could explain his "fix" for young kids dropping from schools in the inner cities all over this country and explain the wage difference between those who get an education and those that don't.
Or perhaps Obama could explain why it is important for young men and women to abstain from activities that bring thousands of unwanted children into the world for tax payers to support.
Or perhaps Obama could explain that simply taking money from one group and giving it to another may make things "nicer" for them in the short term but that real change has to start at the bottom with an "attitude" change.
Or perhaps Obama could state that when businesses have flat earnings that they make efforts to stem their outflow of cash and how his program of a larger Government will help in times when tax revenues decrease to the treasury.
Posted by: david | Oct 20, 2008 8:24:41 AM
Or perhaps Obama could explain his "fix" for young kids dropping from schools in the inner cities all over this country and explain the wage difference between those who get an education and those that don't.
Or perhaps Obama could explain why it is important for young men and women to abstain from activities that bring thousands of unwanted children into the world for tax payers to support.
Or perhaps Obama could explain that simply taking money from one group and giving it to another may make things "nicer" for them in the short term but that real change has to start at the bottom with an "attitude" change.
Or perhaps Obama could state that when businesses have flat earnings that they make efforts to stem their outflow of cash and how his program of a larger Government will help in times when tax revenues decrease to the treasury.
Posted by: david | Oct 20, 2008 8:24:42 AM
How long will it take before Americans understand that "the pursuit of happiness" is not the same as "government distribution of happiness?"
If Senator McCain is elected, the size of government will increase. If Senator Obama is elected, the size of government will increase even more.
Isn’t $2,900,000,000.00 (2008 estimate) if federal spending enough to “get by”? Keep in mind, that is before the “bailouts.”
What is really annoying is that most Democrats demonize “privatizing” Social Security, but advocate “investing” hundreds of billions of dollars in the same “risky” investments though the support of the bailout, Thrift Savings Plan, CalPERS, etc.
Posted by: The Ghost of James Madison | Oct 20, 2008 8:34:53 AM
"Or perhaps Obama could explain his "fix" for young kids dropping from schools in the inner cities all over this country and explain the wage difference between those who get an "education and those that don't."
Obama has talked about this.
"Or perhaps Obama could explain why it is important for young men and women to abstain from activities that bring thousands of unwanted children into the world for tax payers to support."
As Obama said in the debate, teach our children that sexual relations are sacred.
"Or perhaps Obama could explain that simply taking money from one group and giving it to another may make things "nicer" for them in the short term but that real change has to start at the bottom with an "attitude" change."
As Colin Powell pointed out, every tax 'redistributes' money. It is the DEMEGOGUE [my word] how pretends to be ignorant of this fact.
Has John McCain called for the end of taxes? No? Then perhaps he is a demogugue.
Does John McCain acknowledge that the Obama plan would return the upper tax rate to it's rate before the Bush cut, a rate lower than in Reagan's day?
Then perhaps he is a demogugue.
Does John McCain tell you that he voted against these same Bush tax cuts saying that they were 'unconsciousable' ????
Then perhaps you are too ignorant to know that he is a demogugue.
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Here are some facts for you to mull over. The wealth of the wealthiest 5% of our population has doubled under the Republican economic policies since 1980. Isn't that wonderful?
But wait a minute. Have wages and salaries for the middle class doubled?
NO. In fact, real wages (adjusted for inflation) have gone DOWN for middle class Americans.
The middle class needs a break. Obama has offered a tax break that for my family means I can keep $2000 more of my money. John McCain? NOT.
So why don't you go back to shmuzing with your country club friends who make more than $250,000. You are just a little out of touch.
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | Oct 20, 2008 8:39:40 AM
By the way, John McCain has not called for the end of progressive tax structure. He thinks the top rate should be 36% (the pre-Bush rate) instead of 39% (the rate at the end of Reagan's term).
But McCain has not called for the end of progressive tax structure.
What a socialist!
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | Oct 20, 2008 8:42:05 AM
The media can't honestly think Americans are that small minded. Who cares what team the candidates support? It hasn't nothing to do with how they are going to lead our country! I'm from Tampa and I'm getting ready to go to his rally!
Go Obama.
Posted by: Cheryl | Oct 20, 2008 8:51:16 AM
36% ... 39%
That's just ridiculous to begin with!!
Posted by: Marcus | Oct 20, 2008 8:51:42 AM
What, like all four Rays fans would care?
Posted by: Mortimer Snerd | Oct 20, 2008 8:58:13 AM
Politics is BIGGER than baseball. People understand people route for various teams. It really doesn't matter and it won't change people's votes.
Posted by: Sandy | Oct 20, 2008 9:02:09 AM
This is a blunder?
The IRAQ WAR was a blunder. Post-Katrina was a blunder. Picking Palin was a blunder. Deregulation (a la McCain) was a blunder.
If this is the only "blunder" of Obama's you can find, McSAME is in trouble.
Posted by: of course | Oct 20, 2008 9:11:47 AM
Maybe Obama will explain why his running mate is saying "he will be tested" within the first 6 months of term by an international crisis. In other words, why does his Joe Biden think Obama is a wimp?
Posted by: susie | Oct 20, 2008 9:40:08 AM
He's an idiot
Posted by: msa123 | Oct 20, 2008 10:10:15 AM
Blunder xxxxx of xxxxxxxx.
Sen. Obama, experience matters. I have made many mistakes in my short life. It is true, when I think about it, that each of those mistakes are among my greatest assets with respect to decision making, each and every one of them. This is because we all learn from our mistakes. At all times, I believe the best of my judgment is anchored in the cement that is my experience. I believe firmly that the longer I live, the more I will have experienced, and the better my judgment will be, on the balance. Sen. Obama, do you really believe that you have made enough mistakes to be the next President of the United States? Many say that what you won't make the same mistakes that others have because of your sound judgement (ie, your choice of pastor). The only thing, Senator, is that there still remain many mistakes yet to be written into this planet's history books. You won't always have the benefit of others experience, you'll have to leverage your own experience and you have too little on which to base your judgement. I respect your ambition. I respect your charisma. I embrace your place in history, but I do not believe you have sufficient experience to lead this planet, not even close.
America, since the mainstream media has failed to examine Sen. Obama’s experience and lack of experience, you will have to determine for yourselves what exactly is Sen. Obama’s experience? What did he accomplish in the Illinois legislature? He was only there for a handful of years. What did he promise he would accomplish? What did he accomplish in the U.S. Senate? He has only been on the job as a U.S. Senator for 1xx days. What did he promise he would accomplish? What has he changed in this world? This country? The Presidency of the United States is an executive position Sen. Obama. Do you have any executive experience? Have you created a budget, negotiated a budget, revised a budget or managed adherence to a budget?
Sen. Obama insists on presenting Sen. McCain’s experience as being only an puppet of the Bush administration. I saw Senator McCain stand up to President Bush’s Defense Secretary. He stood in a manner that no other did. He changed the course of the war in Iraq. What percentage of all GOP legislative votes sided with President Bush’s? What percentage of all Democrat legislative votes sided with Presidents Clinton, Carter and Johnson’s policies? I have no idea, but I’d venture to guess that, had the media presented that information to the American public, we’d find rank and file partisanship throughout our recent history. How many Americans would be surprise by that?
Well Senator Obama, you might be able to claim that you did not support the Iraq war resolution, but what can you offer as proof that it was the right decision at that moment in our history? You were after all in the small minority. Our country was after all reeling from the worst terror attack in our nation’s history. How would history have judged President Bush had he not led our troops into Iraq and then, a massive terror attack occurred yesterday, perpetrated by terrorists that lived and trained in Iraq over the past few years, with or without knowledge of Saddam Hussein? I think about it this way: history failed to present enough evidence to push the World to coalesce and intervene in 1930s Europe. But modern history is 100% clear on that point, it would have been the correct decision. History might well judge the Iraq war to be not a right decision. History will judge the Bush administration on many points. One of those may even record it, in part, as a series of lapses in the judgment of a young President, swayed by the belief and conviction of an older, seasoned Vice President and the overwhelming circumstances of a world that had changed dramatically, in an instant. I agree with you Sen. Obama that we don't need another eight years of the Bush Administration, we dont need another eight years of an inexperienced President.
Mr. Gibson, Ms. Couric, Ms. Behar, Ms. Mitchell, Mr. Matthews ... you do not get to dismantle the American vote. You and your colleagues might think you have the power to micro-filter democracy’s messages to your liking, but you do not get to dismantle the American vote. You might think you have the power to subtly, and not so subtly promote and gather others to blindly promote one candidacy, while casting another in the least flattering manner possible, but you do not get to dismantle the American vote. You do not get to dismantle America’s vote. The mainstream media bias in this election is at best described as repugnant and at worst, a slap to the face of democracy; an assault on the moral and righteous ideal that all American voters should be free to construct their vote on the basis of readily available, factually complete, accurate, relevant and unbiased fact. It is my opinion that, during this election cycle more than any other I have witnessed, the mainstream media has failed millions of American’s who rely on them, as a basis for constructing their vote. Am I wrong? I might be wrong, but I’ll ask you, the American voters to decide that for yourself, by asking yourself some questions. Questions such as why was so much time spent this election cycle mining for dirt in Alaska, why was so little time was spent tracking laundry in Illinois? Why has the mainstream media spent so little time illuminating the razor thin experience that the junior Senator from Illinois maintains as his credentials? Indeed, if the media was prepared to be fair and honest, they would have been able to report, with incontrovertible confidence, that they were reporting fact, that the candidate having the most experience directly relevant to the position of the Presidency of the United States is actually the candidate that has been relentlessly attacked by the media, both personally and professionally. The mainstream media owes an apology to American Democracy for its treatment of Gov. Palin. Why is it, that after finally deciding to give minimal airtime to the ACORN voter registration fraud issue, was it not mentioned that Sen. Obama’s campaign funded ACORN? Sen. Obama, in my mind, there is no distinction between committing voter registration fraud, serving as impetus to commit voter registration fraud or funding those serving as impetus to commit voter registration fraud. During the last debate, you did a fine job of distancing yourself from ACORN, but you failed to directly confront and condemn those that perpetrate or encourage voter registration fraud. You had a nationwide audience, and you chose not to act.
The President is the commander in chief of the United States Armed Forces. That is a serious responsibility. I question how you can expect us to believe that you will effectively maintain the morale, skill and competence of our forces after you have insulted them (I have a friend that is an Army Reservist. He is deploying, again, to Iraq. He has a wife, a son and a daughter. He does not serve so that he can kill children and raid villages Senator). What will serve as your experiential basis for leading the U.S. Military? Do you have any military experience at all? Have you ever served in ROTC? Did you at least play with the little green plastic troops when you lived in Hawaii? Do you know firsthand the horrors of war? I believe that firsthand knowledge and experience is the most critical element one can use in formulating decisions, including the determination of when to and when not to deploy U.S. Military forces. Sen. McCain has that experience. That I know. That he has shown. The media can’t take that away from him.
With regard to foreign policy experience, do you think you are qualified to navigate the most powerful democracy the world knows during a time when the fundamentals of democracy are very much under attack? Are you ready to face Mr. Putin? Mr. Chavez? Kim Jung mentally Ill? China? Iran? Are you ready to answer the 03:00 phone call? What experience do you have that I should judge gives you readiness? What is that experience? What foreign leaders have you negotiated with directly? What treaties have you signed? The media has presented none and neither have you. I have a good number of stamps in my passport Sen. Obama. I lived and worked in Germany for a brief period. Sen. Obama, I am not qualified by a longshot to make United States foreign policy, and you may only be marginally more qualified than I.
The oratorical is no substitute for judgment or experience Senator Obama. I do not believe that you have the experience to be President of our country. Experience matters Sen. Obama, and you are not ready, you have not made enough mistakes. But most glaring to me, Senator Obama is the one mistake that you seem willing to make over and over and it is the worst mistake one can make. That mistake is the action of not owning and learning from one’s mistakes. The surge worked Senator.
Sen. Obama, you claim that you will cut taxes on 95% of all Americans. Is that true? Or let me rephrase, how can that be true? You told the voters of Illinois that you would cut taxes, but you have failed to do so in the U.S. Senate. Did you even try? Did you present a bill? Were it a committee issue did you encourage your peers to present one? Have you ever voted for a tax cut? What did you mean Senator Obama when you told Plumber Joe that you wanted to spread the wealth? Do you mean that you want to take money from Joe and give it to those with less money? Your running mate, Sen. Biden has commented that you would not be taxing additionaly those making under $250,000 a year. Sen. Biden commented that he knows no plumbers that make over $250,000 a year. I think that those who claim your tax policies embody class warfare are wrong. Wrong, because the policies are class warfare policies, but they are not directed against the haves, they are directed against the have-nots. Senator Biden, you may well be correct that few plumbers earn over $250,000 a year, but some that own plumbing contracting businesses probably do. What do those that spin your message have planned to say to that one plumber out of maybe six or seven that was employed by a plumbing company, but was laid off, because business is slow, new homes weren’t being built and President Obama’s tax increase forced the owner of the plumbing business to lay her off? The owner tried every angle possible, but was forced to make a tough decision. They were faced with the prospect of either making a tough decision or risk running the entire operation into financial distress and end up having to close operations and fire all workers? I guess you’d have Mr. Burton tell her that, even though she has no job, she does at least still have access to affordable healthcare? Senator Obama what will you say to the still unemployed plumber in Ohio, father of two, that nearly had a job secured, the owner had just signed a good contract for a small building and he was ready to hire that plumber, but learned from his accountant, that President Obama’s, Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid's tax increase has made it not possible to hire another employee? I guess you’d have Mr. Burton tell that plumber, that even though he still has no job, he does have a lower tax rate applied against his $0.00 income.
Sen. Obama, you have stated over and over that Sen. McCain supports tax breaks for corporations that send their jobs overseas. The media has not reported on this one way or another, but if you are correct, then I commend Sen. McCain for doing so. What you don’t get, Sen. Obama, or perhaps don’t want the American public to get, is that income taxes, to a for profit enterprise are expenses not much different from the costs of raw materials and salary expenses for purposes of this discussion. All else equal, ladies and gentleman, a corporation will locate itself, and its jobs, or begin to locate itself and its jobs, in areas where it is least penalized in terms of taxes. This is how for profit American corporations behave and this is how they must behave. Their competitors are operating in that manner, continually scouring expenses to search for reduction opportunities. They have to. If they do not, they will be at a cost disadvantage and if their tactical errors are sustained, they may well go out of business in which case, even those jobs which remain in the United States, could also disappear. Even if the company does not fail entirely, some jobs may be eliminated, and chances are great that the highest cost jobs would be targeted first. Sen. Obama, America is not a low cost country, in these circumstances, high cost American jobs would be targeted first, all else equal. When those jobs are cut Sen. Obama, those finding themselves newly unemployed will not have money to support the 'under $250k' crowd...they won't have money to support small businesses...is it sinking in at all?
Your position of not supporting tax breaks for corporations that export jobs overseas, indeed, only encourages them, at the margin, to further export jobs, or slow their job creation in the United States or end their job creation in the United States. This is global economic reality. The media can not distort this fact for you. At the final debate, I heard you add a carrot to your plans. You pulled that same tax string attached to the back of your head and out came the message your handlers have planted in you, that message you think the voters want to hear. I was laughing a bit, but if I understand you correctly, you’ll give tax credits to corporations that create jobs in America. In case you don’t know Senator Obama, this already happens today at the state and local level all across America. Have you thought about how much additionaly, it will cost the U.S. Treasury to employ workers, in an audit fashion, in order to verify which of all the xx million jobs that corporations claim they created, were actually created or do actually exist? What are the time constraints? How long must they keep the job filled in order to receive the credit? What would happen when that timeframe passes? Let me point this out to my fellow voters. Senator Obama wants to first keep tax rates on corporations high or raise them – thereby encouraging employers large and small to export their operations and jobs - and then at the same time he wants to turnaround and give them a tax credit for jobs they create? Senator, or maybe I should be addressing your advisers, you do realize that the two are policy opposites don’t you? It looks to me that you might be trying to convince us that it would be a good idea to spend more on government for an unknown expected net job decrease/increase. If you can convince us that those are winning policies Senator Obama, then I’d suggest you save us all some trouble, sell the American voters a bridge to nowhere and retire, pen some books, give some speeches. Indeed, your tax policy is bigger government, bigger IRS, more regulatory burden on American corporations and more administrative overhead makes them less competitive in the global market and less likely to employ. It is not the right policy Senator Obama, not by a long shot.
Go back to the Senate and accomplish something Sen. Obama. Your candidacy is an insult to America.
ps, the verdict has been in for decades on the effectiveness of spreading the wealth policies. Go visit an American Indian Reservation Sen. Obama. The only thing that has changed for the past several decades is the faces of the Washington politicians that have redistributed wealth to us. Do you have any clue what the average unemployment rate is in Indian Country Sen.Obama? Illicit drug use rate? Teen pregnancy rate? Suicide rate? Pick a rate Senator.
Posted by: 0bama / Pelosi / Stalin 08 | Oct 20, 2008 10:27:16 AM
The windshifter will change. Change is what he believes in!
In Florida, he will change to root for the rays. After all, behind those phillies back, His Nothingness Zero characterized them as "poor, less-educated, clinging to guns and God" to express their frustrations. They are less-educated, they do not know what his Harvard smart is. See, he has it all calculated. Change, Change he believes in. So, does Karl Marx, even dead over his tombstone.
Posted by: d0 | Oct 20, 2008 10:28:49 AM
This is a blunder?
The IRAQ WAR was a blunder. Post-Katrina was a blunder. Picking Palin was a blunder. Deregulation (a la McCain) was a blunder.
Posted by: of course | Oct 20, 2008 9:11:47 AM
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Yes, Zero was so "honored" for being endorsed by the despicable act of Powell who rigorously promoted the War, who completely destroyed the World trust of America, who after all joined his 98% crowd.
Posted by: d0 | Oct 20, 2008 10:32:04 AM
One of many blunders to come..thankfully this one was minor..Obama is perhaps the most articulate speaker of our time, he is a motivational speaker, that is why he was a community organizer, with that said he knows squat about politics and foreign policy and the globe is run on politics...
dO two, or more, blunders don't make it (obama's blunders) right..I mean isn't that why you want to put Obama in office; so that future "blunders" will be kept at a minimum....You really shouldn't start making excuses for you candidate's mistakes that's not productive change just switching sides..
Posted by: socalvoter | Oct 20, 2008 11:13:30 AM
Obama already screwed the voters of FL by insisting that the votes that millions of Floridians cast in the primary (56% for Hillary Clinton) not be counted.
Hillary 2012!
Posted by: ch | Oct 20, 2008 11:34:26 AM
John McCain's conscience is way, way off base with his circular logic.
The Supreme Court is political? You need to ask yourself how it got that way, if that's how you believe. Liberals on the Court have near completely gutted the Constitution by interpreting it as a "living, breathing document." I'm no genius when it comes to some issues, but to say that every Republican should be thrown out of Congress on one issue is absolutely one of the dumbest things ever.
Take a look at your liberals. Pelosi. Frank. Rangel. Reid. Kennedy. Dingle. They are the primary reason for the mortgage crisis & subsequent bailout. They pushed to "level the playing field" and make subprime ARMs available for people whom the banks and mortgage houses knew could NOT afford the payments. John McCain and numerous of his Republican colleagues called for more oversight of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, but to their discredit, Barney Frank and minions kept that from happening. They pushed for and got less regulation so that now every taxpayer is on the hook for other people's defaulted mortgages! Liberals have continually pushed for more government in our lives such that we can barely do anything without having to meet some guideline.
These selfsame liberal "leaders" are selling us down the river such that if not checked, we will end up just another socialist nation with our liberties and freedoms washed down the drain while we sit wondering how it all happened.
I don't know what kool-aid you've been drinking, but whatever it is, you need to switch to another beverage. We are very close to being the last bastion of true freedom on the face of this earth - and your liberal friends (especially including Barack Obama) are on pace to hang a hammer and sickle flag over out nation's capital.
Wake up! Before it's too late. A vote for Obama is a vote for Socialism and a step closer to us becoming a Communist nation.
Posted by: Walter S | Oct 20, 2008 11:52:51 AM
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