China has liscensed Johanna Solar Technology to build a plant there. Some of the newest and best technology out of Germany! They are ahead of us.
#293 CTKEY on 10.07.08 at 9:52 pm Did he go to Harvard and Columbia? He can’t speak ! It’s amazing…He’s a lawyer and has trouble making a point.
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THAT ONE all about it, he is so stupid!

Good question: Especially in this time of crisis, why should we trust our economic policies to a person who has a long association with an unrepentant terrorist?

With his answers in last night’s debate, Obama has finally completed the Mobius Strip of Illogic which Liberals use in describing fiscal policy.

First:
government spending increases = "investment"

Then:
tax cuts = "wasteful spending"

Now, thanks to Obama:
tax increases = "spending cuts"

Obama: "but actually I'm cutting more than I'm spending so that it will be a net spending cut."

Are you kidding me? Maybe Obama thought he was doing an interview for The Onion.

Poor george-couldn't use his prepared attacks against McCain.

Everything points to an Obama victory. And two of his most potent weapons, money and organization, have not even been fully employed yet. Axelrod has a veritable army of people out there. First their efforts were in voter registration. On Nov. 4 it will be getting out the vote. ORGANIZATION. It is the Chicago way. It got JFK elected, it will get Obama elected. End of story.

Or maybe somebody was gonna bring up McCains association with the G Gordon Liddy's and Ollie Norths of the last Neocon botch job..

This should have been Barack’s chance to steal 2nd base and get to third. He is caught now between throw backs from the third base player and second base player, not to mention the shortback is giving mixed signals and there was a 3rd rank pitcher in play. Barack is on the run both back and forth. McCain is in place at third base to put him out with Palin as catcher to seal the deal. This debate was “the link.” Barack went no where except where his paid followers and pundits put him. This is the last inning of a long ball game that we know WE CAN WIN, but waiting for that pivotal play. It will play out! Don’t rush the action of the guy on third base and his catcher….and remember…there are booos and claps/cheers going on on both sides that add to the mix. Barack should be on third base. Barack is NOT on third base. Barack is on the run. John did what he had to do…….AND he is on third base waiting

HP, the polls would suggest otherwise. McCain will be stranded on third base and will fold faster than the Chicago Cubs.

Because Mccain is a coward or perhaps he didnt want obama to bring up his associations keating five, mafia mob his vp anti-american husband as well as her friends seems to me obama was waiting and ready for the ayers thing you know what they say if you cant tell someone to their face dont tell at all

OH and THAT ONE would have cried! His shiny thing in his ears were dist rating and he refused to shake Senator McCain's hand.
THAT ONE, just his usual ignorant self!

Mccain is a very disrespectful person look how he talked to the one voter insulting his intelligence on the mortgage giants Mccain is definatley NOT PRESIDENTIAL!

Who didn't shake whose hand? I must have missed something.

Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | Oct 8, 2008 9:12:37 AM

"Axelrod has a veritable army of people out there. First their efforts were in voter registration. On Nov. 4 it will be getting out the vote. ORGANIZATION. It is the Chicago way. It got JFK elected, it will get Obama elected."

Very amusing analogy William, especially since the first Mayor Daley commanded a veritable army of DEAD Chicago voters to steal Illinois for JFK in 1960. Voter fraud is the Chicago Way!

McCain looked awkward enough. Attacking Obama on some obscure connection in the face of crisis would have been viewed negatively by all but the most die-hard conservatives. Bottom line is McCain looked old, did not connect with average Americans, and quite frankly seemed cranky in his answers. He also demonstrated some of his temper and impulsive behavior by demeaning Obama with his "that one" comment and his own lame dismissal of his "Bomb, bomb, Iran" comment as a joke. His lame attempt at humor also felt forced and fell flat.

Hp Boston
Were you Watching the same Debate as the rest of us?

Who didn't shake whose hand? I must have missed something.

I watched the video. They both missed a handshake. Obama first stuck out his right hand and McCain wasn't looking so he shook hands with Cindy McCain. At the same time McCain stuck out his left hand and then looked away into the audience. These two are not the best of friends that is obvious. But anyone who tries to read more into this than what it is are doing so to promote an agenda (dis Obama or dis McCain). It is a non issue.

I thought Obama and Michelle staying and greeting the crowd said it all.McCain has total contempt for the regular guy.

Why didn't he bring up Ayers? We can reference this back to the school yard days.

It's hard to lie about someone to their face!

Does Gang Violence Qualify as Terrorism?

Gov. Palin has been warning us of the danger of electing a President who "Pals around with terrorists..."

I would ask Gov. Palin how she feels about the military recruiting policies which John McCain has actively supported since 2003, and who her son may be forced to pal around with as a consequence. She might want to consider the experience of another Mom with a son in our military, Stephanie Cockrell, as reported by CBS News:

(CBS) U.S. Army Sgt. Juwan Johnson got a hero's welcome while home on leave in June of 2004.

"Not only did I love my son - but my god - I liked the man he was becoming," his mother, Stephanie Cockrell, remembers.

But that trip home was the last time his family saw him alive. When Johnson died, he wasn't in a war zone, he was in Germany.

"He had finished his term in Iraq," his mother said. "I talked to him the day before his death. He said, 'Mom, I'm in the process of discharging out. I'll be out in two weeks'."

On July 3, 2005, Sgt. Johnson went to a park not far from his base in Germany to be initiated into the 'Gangster Disciples,' a notorious Chicago-based street gang. He was beaten by eight other soldiers in a "jump-in" - an initiation rite common to many gangs.

"My son never spoke of joining a gang," Cockrell told CBS News correspondent Thalia Assuras. Johnson died that night from his injuries. His son, Juwan Jr., was born five months later.

(link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/28/eveningnews/main3107316.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_3107316)

Since 2003, the military has granted 'moral waivers' to over 125,000 enlistees. Those waivers have been, in most cases, for serious criminal activity, including significant numbers of convicted felons, many of them gang members. The FBI conducted an investigation into this subject, and here are highlights from it's report:

-- Gang-related activity in the US military is increasing and poses a threat to law enforcement officials and national security. Members of nearly every major street gang have been identified on both domestic and international military installations.

-- Some gang members may also enlist to receive weapons, combat, and convoy support training; to obtain access to weapons and explosives; or as an alternative to incarceration. Such military training could ultimately result in more organized, sophisticated, and deadly gangs, as well as an increase in deadly assaults on law enforcement officers.

-- Gang incidents involving active-duty personnel on or near US military bases nationwide include drive-by shootings, assaults, robberies, drug distribution, weapons violations, domestic disturbances, vandalism, extortion, and money laundering.

(http://www.militarytimes.com/static/projects/pages/ngic_gangs.pdf)

As I read this body of facts, I wonder about the scope of the damage which has been done to this country since 9/11 by our own ill-considered initiative in Iraq. If the larger goal was to deter terrorism, why are we providing combat training to thousands of gang members, and providing them access to our most sophisticated weaponry? Even more insidious, for any ordinary American contemplating enlisting in the military, the prospect of serving with comrades in arms who are also Crips, Bloods, or members of the 'Gangster Disciples' would, in my opinion, be reason enough to opt out, regardless of any other incentives there might be.

If Gov. Palin insists on continuing to warn us away from Senator Obama because of his casual association with Mr. Ayers, I think she owes us an explanation as to why we should support a candidate who's policies over the last 5 years have materially increased the potency of domestic gangs to terrorize neighborhoods all over this country.

McSame is a coward. He sends the shrew little neophyte out to do the dirty work, but standing right next to Obama he declines to make the 'terrorist friend" reference face to face. I would not vote for Mcsame/pal-in-comparison for dog catcher.

angie, just because people don't take the same impression from the debate as you and other folk do, does not make their viewpoints wrong.

I personally thought that both danced around the questions, and there were personality traits of both candidates that gave me pause.

Quite frankly, I found the 'debate' maddening. There are more than a few follow-up questions that should have been asked but because of the format it didn't happen.

I wish the candidates would have a town hall meeting near me. I would love to have the opportunity to ask questions, WITHOUT THE MSM FILTER AND SELF-BLOVIATING ANALYSIS, and get some answers from these prancers.

Axelrod Is out overseeing the Acorn Org. to be sure Obama get's elected by hook or crook..now the NAACP has hoped on board. I sure am glad we have FOX NEWS to keep us up on all this.

Maybe watching on Foox noise.

They both shook hands right after the debate when Brokaw asked them to move from in front of the telepromptor.

The reason noone's reported the Ayers/Rezko crap is because everyone, even Faux News, went over it with a fine-tooth comb during the primary season. If you want a solid answer, go to Factcheck.org. Obama's connection with Ayers is tenuous at best and professional at worst, and the house which Rezko supposedly got him a sweet deal on? Obama's family actually spent MORE on that than they should have, in the long run. No foul play there, either.

Obama didn't do anything drastic because drastic measures are risky. He has a comfortable lead right now, so why do anything to risk that? All he needs to do is be the level-headed statesman and let Biden handle the bombast.

The damage is done. McCain showed his true self and will go down to defeat as he should. When a stanch McCain supporter writes that it was Obama who refused to shake hands when the camera were right on the scene, we have to wonder what show they were watching. McCain does not seem to be in my world.

OBUMA IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOBORING! He has to ask Michelle what he does not know.
We all know he knows very little and Michelle has to help him think!
BO is such a spoiled brat. He just loves to hear himself talk. I can’t stand the way he points and uses his hands….very aggressive and controlling….bad demeanor,
Michelle you had better talk to him about that, he also needs to ANSWER THE QUESTIONS! WE do not want his ditto speeches!! WE have heard them all from THATONE!

Well you can bet the rabid dog attacks will be back on their game today. Dante your right McCain is a coward!

'Ask Mister Language Person' (oh the irony): I get the distinct impression you don't know what the 'net' means in the phrase 'net spending cut'.

Also, increasing taxes while cutting spending is also not illogical - on the contrary, if income was previously less than spending, resulting in a huge deficit (you know, like the one we have), doing both may be necessary.

Who cares. BO is winning. That is all that counts !!! Pack ur bags and go back home.

Why doesn't Obama just admit his relationship with Ayers? I think it was the $50 million.

William Ayers is only "a guy I know" says Obama, but according to a late CNN investigative report, Barak Obama received $50 million over 7 years from William Ayers acting as the head of an Annenberg foundation.

With that money, Obama put experimental programs authored by Ayers and his friends into public schools in Chicago. Programs included anti Western civilization, anti-family, anti law enforcement (nearly racist) programs.

Where I come from when a "guy I know" gives you $50 million to distribute, I know the guy quite well.

Gov. Palin has been warning us of the danger of electing a President who "Pals around with terrorists..."

Well what about GWB, Who put the Bin Laden family in a private jet out of the US after 9/11. And let's not forget who GWB has been paying off in Iraq to keep the violence down there...It's Muqtada Al-Sader and former Baath party officials and former Al-Qaeda operatives...This was done by this GWB and no one can deny that!! And they said the surge worked to lower violence...Well I got news for you...The greenback worked to keep the violence down and will be until the greenback is cut off.

McCain would have been taking a serious risk by raising an Ayers/Obama connection when the campaign was told the counter punch by Mr. Obama would be the raising of the McCain/Keating 5 connection.

It would probably hurt Mr. McCain much more to be directly associated with corrupt, highly paid bankers than it would to have Mr. Obama indirectly associated with an aging 60's radical.

Obama has proposed $800 billion in new spending. No cuts. How will he pay for it? How can anyone propose raising taxes during a recession?

Tax increases--especially on corporations and capital gains--have huge economic impacts: they reduce investment, reduce productivity, reduce jobs, slow the economy, and REDUCE federal revenues by shrinking the business and investment tax bases. Tax increases are NOT the same as spending cuts, morons.

Lynn wrote: "Someone needs to get Palin to shut up and stop being reckless before she incites a tragedy~~~one that would send this country over the edgE"
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How convenient, hah?! You want to get Palin to shut up so to avoid taking the mask off Obama? Get real! YOU, left wing liberal Morons have spent weeks on personal attacks against Palin and now all of a sudden you are becoming "testy" because we are determined to get American voters to learn about the "Real Obama" and his "sweet heart deals" with convicted terrorists, drug dealers, and a lunatic anti-American Marxist pastor of 20+ years!

The real tragedy will be to elect Barack Hussein Obama President. The real tragedy will be to elect someone who refuses to place his hand over his heart during our National Anthem and refuses to wear the American flag. But of course, what do you expect from an Un-American, Non-patriot, MARXIST Barack Hussein Obama, who launched his campaign in the livingroom of convicted terrorist Ayers ...

I guess this is what "community organizing" was all about for Mr. Hussein Obama! He was organizing the community spreading his Marxist ideas around in perfect harmony with terorists and other criminal elements of the Chicago underground!

Oh, I know...he speaks well!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/palin-defends-a.html?cid=133887977

The only way McCain could possibly win would be if Osama Bin Laden slammed into the White House driving an Obama campaign bus. The Fat Lady has not sung yet, but she is warming up!

McCain looked like your old senile uncle that everyone ignores but still dearly love for his past kind deeds. He is out of touch. If Sarah is the face of the new Republican party, Democrats will win without trying. She's so minor league. Stop making excuses for her lack of depth in most important areas. Alaska should get some good auditors into that capital. The hate she spews each day is unpatriotic. These are Christian values? Stand in line in the rain for hate and lies? Wowe. I would stand in line for answers but for that loud mouth nut with no real thoughts on anything??? How can this woman point her finger at anyone. It's sad all the people turning out for an hour of hate and personal attacks when our economy and foreign affairs are in shambles. It's mind bloggingly.

the debate was pretty boring. no candidate really stood out, period. The reason Ayers wasnt mentioned is because i'm sure the GOP's plan was to just mention it a few times and get people talking about it again in the media and on the blogs. this is how the message gets out and then people can then make their own decisions. it has worked a treat and i bet most days this will be mentioned now thtat people know the connection between obama and ayers is real and pretty scary.

Palin is not even a has-been; she is a "never was." We don't need a Joe Six-Pack in the White House. We need someone who UNDERSTANDS Joe Six-Pack and his needs and concerns. We need smart people, not naive, clueless neophytes.

McCaine looked like a typical politician claiming to know everything from catching Osama to fixing economy. On the other hand Obama proved to be the leader that this great nation needs at this time.

Does Gang Violence Qualify as Terrorism?

SENATOR OBUMA has been A CANDIDATE FOR President who "Pals around with terrorists..."

I would ask SENATOR OBUMA how HE feels about the military recruiting policies which SENATOR OMUMA actively supported. He might want to consider the experience of parent with a son in our military, Stephanie Cockrell, as reported by CBS News:

(CBS) U.S. Army Sgt. Juwan Johnson got a hero's welcome while home on leave in June of 2004.

"Not only did I love my son - but my god - I liked the man he was becoming," his mother, Stephanie Cockrell, remembers.

But that trip home was the last time his family saw him alive. When Johnson died, he wasn't in a war zone, he was in Germany.

"He had finished his term in Iraq," his mother said. "I talked to him the day before his death. He said, 'Mom, I'm in the process of discharging out. I'll be out in two weeks'."

On July 3, 2005, Sgt. Johnson went to a park not far from his base in Germany to be initiated into the 'Gangster Disciples,' a notorious CHICAGO-based street gang. He was beaten by eight other soldiers in a "jump-in" - an initiation rite common to many gangs.

"My son never spoke of joining a gang," Cockrell told CBS News correspondent Thalia Assuras. Johnson died that night from his injuries. His son, Juwan Jr., was born five months later.

(link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/28/eveningnews/main3107316.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_3107316)

Since 2003, the military has granted 'moral waivers' to over 125,000 enlistees. Those waivers have been, in most cases, for serious criminal activity, including significant numbers of convicted felons, many of them gang members. The FBI conducted an investigation into this subject, and here are highlights from it's report:

-- Gang-related activity in the US military is increasing and poses a threat to law enforcement officials and national security. Members of nearly every major street gang have been identified on both domestic and international military installations.

-- Some gang members may also enlist to receive weapons, combat, and convoy support training; to obtain access to weapons and explosives; or as an alternative to incarceration. Such military training could ultimately result in more organized, sophisticated, and deadly gangs, as well as an increase in deadly assaults on law enforcement officers.

-- Gang incidents involving active-duty personnel on or near US military bases nationwide include drive-by shootings, assaults, robberies, drug distribution, weapons violations, domestic disturbances, vandalism, extortion, and money laundering.

(http://www.militarytimes.com/static/projects/pages/ngic_gangs.pdf)

As I read this body of facts, I wonder about the scope of the damage which has been done to this country since 9/11 by our own ill-considered initiative in Iraq. If the larger goal was to deter terrorism, why are we providing combat training to thousands of gang members, and providing them access to our most sophisticated weaponry? Even more insidious, for any ordinary American contemplating enlisting in the military, the prospect of serving with comrades in arms who are also Crips, Bloods, or members of the 'Gangster Disciples' would, in my opinion, be reason enough to opt out, regardless of any other incentives there might be.

Senator Obama because of his casual association with Mr. Ayers, I think HE owes us an explanation as to why we should support a HIM who's policies over the last 5 years have materially increased the potency of domestic gangs to terrorize neighborhoods all over this country.

Tim Donovan: I'm sorry but I lived through the 60's and the Vietnam war. I remember the protests.. the kids killed at Kent State. It was a crazy time and people did crazy things.I had friends killed over there. I've walked that wall in DC and seen the thousands and thousands of names. Ayers for what ever he did back then has changed his life around and has done good things since. It's time to let go and focus on the real problems of this country.

spend 5 1/2 years in a hell hole and then throw around the word coward. it'll give you some credibility when you talk of such things, ted.

the vp as attitude delivery system is the way the game is played and barack obama understands that as well as anyone.

He have an interesting psychological dynamic happening in the electorate and it's apparent in some of the posts here. 8 Years of tripartite Republican rule and this nation and world are obviously falling apart. Many people in the country have noticed that the emperor has no clothes and are fleeing to the counterpoint in droves. Those folks that have owned a viewpoint of being Republican as part of their personal identity...are getting angry and desperate because undeniably people don't want to be wrong. Especially if that error is held deeply in their faith and belief system. They want the emperor to be clothed even if he is not.

So instead of admitting...even personally to themselves...that they might have been mislead by the GOP over so many years. They build up a dire amount of anger and angst and attack those that differ. Like cornered Mountain Lions...all will pay. The simple fact is that Obama only has a differing VIEWPOINT on what to do in our world crisis. He's NOT the devil, he's NOT a terrorist, he's NOT going to destroy the world and when he is elected the world WILL keep turning and the rapture WON'T come.

People need to not vindicate their utter existence simply by the views they hold. It's OK to have a differing opinion on how to do something...it really is. Voice your opinion...listen to other opinions...but don't stake your entire self-worth on it. That's, my friends, is the greatest mistake the GOP has made over the last 20+ years. Fostering this ridiculous belief in their electorate.

I think you might be overestimating Barack Obama. I am a Democratic. However, I know that the Federal government can afford a Universal Health care program. Morally, I would like everyone covered but fiscally its unrealistic. We are better off giving States Block grants to deal with Healthcare on its own. We cannot afford another Entitlement program. We need to focus on deceasing spending and paying down the National debt. Because we largely rely on Job creation in the Private Sector, the tax issue is an enormously important issue. Although I hate to admit it, giving large corporations and small businesses tax breaks works. It works in Philadelphia and Pennsylvania. Incidently, Mayor Nutter and Governor Rendell (both Democrats) sound more like Senator McCain. I think this race is going to be close and have a surprising outcome.

HP Boston,
Log off and go Celebrate your win. You are a fool if you can not see where our country is heading with another Republican President.

The United States is about US not ME, US being caring people.
Me is selfish and right now Criminal CEO's of AIG, Fanny Mae Freddie Mac.

Support McCain you support the destruction of our economy as well as the world economy.

Does Gang Violence Qualify as Terrorism?

SENATOR OBUMA has been A CANDIDATE FOR President who "Pals around with terrorists..."

I would ask SENATOR OBUMA how HE feels about the military recruiting policies which SENATOR OMUMA actively supported. He might want to consider the experience of parent with a son in our military, Stephanie Cockrell, as reported by CBS News:

(CBS) U.S. Army Sgt. Juwan Johnson got a hero's welcome while home on leave in June of 2004.

"Not only did I love my son - but my god - I liked the man he was becoming," his mother, Stephanie Cockrell, remembers.

But that trip home was the last time his family saw him alive. When Johnson died, he wasn't in a war zone, he was in Germany.

"He had finished his term in Iraq," his mother said. "I talked to him the day before his death. He said, 'Mom, I'm in the process of discharging out. I'll be out in two weeks'."

On July 3, 2005, Sgt. Johnson went to a park not far from his base in Germany to be initiated into the 'Gangster Disciples,' a notorious CHICAGO-based street gang. He was beaten by eight other soldiers in a "jump-in" - an initiation rite common to many gangs.

"My son never spoke of joining a gang," Cockrell told CBS News correspondent Thalia Assuras. Johnson died that night from his injuries. His son, Juwan Jr., was born five months later.

(link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/28/eveningnews/main3107316.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_3107316)

Since 2003, the military has granted 'moral waivers' to over 125,000 enlistees. Those waivers have been, in most cases, for serious criminal activity, including significant numbers of convicted felons, many of them gang members. The FBI conducted an investigation into this subject, and here are highlights from it's report:

-- Gang-related activity in the US military is increasing and poses a threat to law enforcement officials and national security. Members of nearly every major street gang have been identified on both domestic and international military installations.

-- Some gang members may also enlist to receive weapons, combat, and convoy support training; to obtain access to weapons and explosives; or as an alternative to incarceration. Such military training could ultimately result in more organized, sophisticated, and deadly gangs, as well as an increase in deadly assaults on law enforcement officers.

-- Gang incidents involving active-duty personnel on or near US military bases nationwide include drive-by shootings, assaults, robberies, drug distribution, weapons violations, domestic disturbances, vandalism, extortion, and money laundering.

(http://www.militarytimes.com/static/projects/pages/ngic_gangs.pdf)

As I read this body of facts, I wonder about the scope of the damage which has been done to this country since 9/11 by our own ill-considered initiative in Iraq. If the larger goal was to deter terrorism, why are we providing combat training to thousands of gang members, and providing them access to our most sophisticated weaponry? Even more insidious, for any ordinary American contemplating enlisting in the military, the prospect of serving with comrades in arms who are also Crips, Bloods, or members of the 'Gangster Disciples' would, in my opinion, be reason enough to opt out, regardless of any other incentives there might be.

Senator Obama because of his casual association with Mr. Ayers, I think HE owes us an explanation as to why we should support a HIM who's policies over the last 5 years have materially increased the potency of domestic gangs to terrorize neighborhoods all over this country.

YOU BETTCHA!!!

I liked Obama's comment about health care being a right of all Americans. There are over 47 million Americans without health care now, and with the economic downturn and loss of jobs this will increase exponentially. McCain would continue to treat HMOs as opportunists in the health care market, and reward them for taking on patients of low risk and ignoring or refusing coverage to the most ill. By the way, the Senators have Government insurance and they get excellent care. Why not all the rest of us.

The Ayers thing will take care of itself, MccCain did well to stay away from it but he did not deliver anything we didn't already know. He should have brought up Obamas tax cuts to 95% of us was fooey due to the fact that 40% of us effectively pay no taxes. McCain should have hammered away at how the Democrats in congress have stalled any investigations into freddie and fannie and are in effect trying to cover this mess up. In a time when many of us have lost a huge chunk of money to fradualant loan practices, politicians taking campaign contributions and executives getting rich from taxpayers I find that neither candidate really gets it and that the only person on either ticket to have real life experience is being made fun of and made out to be a dunce by the main stream press.

If well educated men and women are so great for the country why are our economic policies in such a mess?

This is just my personal opinion but I think that McCain didn't bring up Ayers because he doesn't really believe that Obama is some sort of terrorist sympathizer to someone that was active in terrorist protests of the Viet Nam war almost 40 years ago when Obama was 8. I think that McCain will let Palin make these claims because he wants to win, but in his heart he is a fair man, has had these types lies and "swift boat" attacks leveled at him before and couldn't bring himself to make attacks he doesn't really believe. I also think that Obama did much better in a town hall style debate than McCain thought he would and maybe McCain lost his nerve and thought the audience wouldn't like the negativity plus Obama was sure to answer with a very strong statement and maybe even an attack of his own, and McCain didn't want to chance it. I hope it was the first idea - that McCain is the old McCain that doesn't like the dirty political smears.

The Republicans are AWFULLY lucky that the Democrats aren't running that same kind of smear campaign.

Otherwise, the importance on "associations" would include Sarah Palin's husband's 7 year inclusion in a group called the Alaskan Independence Party who loves America SO MUCH that they believe in separating from the union. She sleeps next to this man every night, I'd say THAT is an important association.

If we want to talk of Obama and Ayers, whom Obama knows only in his capacity of a university professor, then McCain's connection to Ollie North and the Iran-Contra scandal is fair game. McCain was right in the thick of it. His hands are dirty. By the way, Ayers was never convicted of anything. North, McCain's compadre, was.

I've seen it reported before that some people when asked by pollsters who they support say Obama but will hold back because of his race but the converse is also true. There are a lot of "scared" people who tell pollsters that they will vote for the white guy to keep up appearances with their perceived "peers" but when they go in the both will in their hearts think Obama a better choice but will never admit that they voted for a black man. I think as much as 7% of McCain's support is people that are going to vote Obama but cannot admit it even to themselves, yet.
Particularly, retired people in the south are less likely to admit to anyone that they support Obama.

"That OTHER One" is Toast

Tiff wrote: "It's just straight talk, Sarah telling the truth. If the American people want a president, Obama, whose career was launched by people who target our own country, it's pretty sad. I sure don't want him as commander and chief, I respect our soldiers too much for that. "We know nothing about Obama. Who and for what purpose financed his education. No one knows Anything about him and everyone follows him like he is the pide pipper. Scary...."
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Tiff- In fact, we know A LOT about Obama...The problem is the left-wing-liberal media clowns are "covering up" for him. The partisan media Morons have kept the American people in the dark for a long - very long time...

Has anyone of you wondered, why CNN International was dumped a long time ago - currently available only to approx. 6 million households in our country which has a 300+ million population? The cable news and satellite news have dumped CNN International in favor of BBC World News (not to be confused with BBC America).

Millions in our country have been demanding "serious news" from "serious sources" and the demand for BBC World News has been much stronger than for CNN International! And, that is because CNN has become a "Mickey Mouse" channel - organ of the "Left Movement" -yes - the "Obama Marxist Movement"!

Oh, I know...he calls it "Change We Need"!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/palin-defends-a.html?cid=133887977

Ayers for what ever he did back then has changed his life around and has done good things since. It's time to let go and focus on the real problems of this country.
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TOTAL BS! THATONE AND AYERS ARE A THREAT TO AMERICA!

Maybe McCain was planning to raise Ayers and he simply forgot. Or maybe he got cold feet. Certainly his own campaign seems to have been expecting it. Let's face it, the campaign is faltering, and much of the blame can be laid at the feet of the candidate, who's been lurching from one position to the next without any clear strategy. You know, he was all bravado over the weekend. "I'll get tough," he said. Now it seems he's too timid to look Obama in the eye and confront him.

But in all of this it's funny to see the so-called inexperienced one beating the pants of the old guy with all this Washington experience he's supposedly ready to bring to the presidency.

Obama is looking more and more presidential by the day.

Obama proved he just spits out whatever his advisors feed him and looks good in a debate. But that just wins him the high school debating prize. He has to ask Michelle when he doesn't have a clue. He tells you what you want to hear that day, but has no principles. We are voting for a leader, not an understudy to be president and leader of the free world. Kerry was ahead by 6 in the polls and people don't trust Obama to begin with, otherwise the polls would be overwhelmingly Democratic right now. McCain will take this election, no doubt

The biggest issue for the US today is the teetering economy. I, like most Americans, feel Obama is stronger in this area. He played a huge part in getting Alexi Giannoulias, a highly educated young banker, elected here in Illinois as state treasurer. Alexi has been a godsend to Illinois so far. For example, he quickly turned the state's BrightStart program (for college savings) from one of the worst in the country, to top 5 according to the Wall St. Journal. Obama gets it, and knows who to put in right places to get sh** done. McCain's record shows voting for Bush budgets and being part of the Keating Five in the 1980s savings and loan crisis, where he was officially reprimanded for "poor judgement" by his peers.

daniel yellon md wrote: "I liked Obama's comment about health care being a right of all Americans. There are over 47 million Americans without health care now, and with the economic downturn and loss of jobs this will increase exponentially"
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Barack Hussein Obama can keep his MARXIST ideas to himself or better yet...he and the 47,000,000 can move to Europe or Russia to enjoy "Nationalized Medicine" - the disaster that even socialists condemn all over Europe. Obama is more to the LEFT than the European Socialists!

Isn't time for Republicans to start practicing graciousness, accepting their rightful defeat over the mess they have caused? ... Well I guess that is a little too much to expect. Obama will be President of all of us, we need to figure out how to work together to dig us out of the ditch.

Palin is not even a has-been; she is a "never was." We don't need a Joe Six-Pack in the White House. We need someone who UNDERSTANDS Joe Six-Pack and his needs and concerns. We need smart people, not naive, clueless neophytes.

Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | Oct 8, 2008 9:54:21 AM

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AH but she sure has your shorts in a wedgie!!! lol lol She is your thatone all rolled into ONE!!

Natasha: Just what exactly is the media covering up about Obama? Want to know his voting record in the State and US Senate? Look it up! What to know about his plans for his administration? It's all there on his web sight.Who financed his education? He did with student loans.Oh but you don't believe that now do you. It's all a great conspiracy to put a "marxist" in control.Please !

If we all think the last 8 years have been bad, imagine the next 4. After watching the debate last night, I am truly convinced that McCain is throwing the election. He walked off the stage immediately following a few handshakes and he had so many missed opportunities. Frankly, as a faithful Republican, I don't blame him. The next President will NOT BE ABLE to execute his promises and will receive an even lower ratings than Bush and will lose in the next election. For the future of Republicans, if McCain loses the next Repulican challenger in 2012 will win and I am banking on Romney or one of the new blood like Jindal.

Let the Democrats control with no checks and balances and the Americans can only blame themselves for the next 4 years.

Paraphrase from the Harford Courant, today: "In the early '80s, McCain served on the advisory board of the US Chapter of the Council for World Freedom, an international group linked to ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. The organization aided rebels trying to overthrow the government of Nicaragua. That landed the group in the middle of the Iran-Contra affair and in legal trouble with the IRS, which revoked the charitable organization's tax exemption."

McCain is dirty.

Mr. Green, I lived in Illinois - it is a basket case thanks to crooked politicians like Obama and the Gov. Maybe he'll appoint Tony Rezko as his Treasury Secretary. Drink some more Kool Aid.

If elected, Obama will be having tea with terrorists.

This is a must watch for the left-wing media clowns and for everybody that is reading this blog:

A VIDEO PORTRAIT OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

http://www.eyeblast.tv/Public/Video.aspx?rsrcID=2036

AMERICA THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE!

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 10/06/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of “qualifications” to serve as President of the United States, announced today that Obama and Democratic National Committee [DNC] filed a Joint Motion for Protective Order to Stay Discovery Pending a Decision on the Motion to Dismiss (which was) filed on 09/24/08.

While legal, Berg stated he is “outraged as this is another attempt to hide the truth from the public; it is obvious that documents do not exist to prove that Obama is qualified to be President.” The case is Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.

Their joint motion indicates a concerted effort to avoid the truth by attempting to delay the judicial process, although legal, by not resolving the issue presented: that is, whether Barack Obama meets the qualifications to be President.

It is obvious that Obama was born in Kenya and does not meet the “qualifications” to be President of the United States pursuant to our United States Constitution. Obama cannot produce a certified copy of his “Vault” [original long version] Birth Certificate from Hawaii because it does not exist.

Furthermore, and actually more important is Obama’s Certificate of Citizenship that he received when he returned from Indonesia, as if it exists it would indicate that Obama was “naturalized” and also not able to be President.

The DNC has promised “we the people” an Open and Honest Government and has promised to uphold our United States Constitution. The DNC has failed their promise. DNC Chairperson Howard Dean should resign as he has not and is not fulfilling his responsibility of seeing that a “qualified” candidate is on the ballot as the Democratic candidate for President of the United States.

Berg stated that a response in opposition will be filed in the next day or so to the Defendants Motion for a Protective Order.

Our website obamacrimes.com now has 21.7 + million hits. We are urging all to spread the word of our website – and forward to your local newspapers and radio and TV stations. Berg again stressed his position regarding the urgency of this case as, “we” the people, are heading to a “Constitutional Crisis” if this case is not resolved

Isn't time for Republicans to start practicing graciousness, accepting their rightful defeat over the mess they have caused? ... Well I guess that is a little too much to expect. Obama will be President of all of us, we need to figure out how to work together to dig us out of the ditch.

Posted by: Rich | Oct 8, 2008 10:14:48 AM

0 sure ..time out!! Go give up! lol WE have only just BEGUN.....
This is the GE you will never chase McCain away as you did Senator CLINTON!!
HE HAS A SURPRISE FOR YOU!